Re: [RBW] Tires for Clementine

[Braxton Colagross]

Seems the dust might be from the brake pads wearing themselves. 

On Thursday, September 26, 2019 at 4:20:09 AM UTC-7, Conway Bennett wrote:
>
> The black specs are probably and rubber from the tire rubbing, check your 
> brake pads to see if they aren't hitting the sidewall near the bead.

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Re: [RBW] Tires for Clementine

[Joe Bernard]

Franklyn, my advice to the young lady weighed heavily towards the 'no flats' 
side, which basically started and ended with "get Big Bens, they'll work." She 
rides with the kids back and forth to school every day and REALLY can't afford 
many road side repairs, so I think this was the way to go. 

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Re: [RBW] Tires for Clementine

[franklyn]

I am amazed not one person mentioned Schwalbe G-One 27.5x2.0 or Panaracer 
Gravel King 48mm (27.5), not mention the Compass/Rene Herse Tires! They are 
lighter and "suppler" than any Schwalbe tires mentioned here!

On Friday, September 27, 2019 at 8:59:47 AM UTC-7, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:
>
> The tires aren’t doing the dusting - we suspect the brake pads are. Did 
> you see the photos? Our commute is concrete - a sidewalk made extra wide, 
> and I don’t spend a lot of time on the blacktop. Cars reign supreme up 
> here, and with those big, wide paths and few if any pedestrians, we stay on 
> concrete. See my original post for where the speckles appear and don’t 
> appear 
>
> Sent from my iPad 
>
> > On Sep 27, 2019, at 8:52 AM, johnboy > 
> wrote: 
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> > Leah, I’ve never noticed tires “dusting” my frame .Could it be 
> something on the roads you are riding? Where on the frame does it appear? 
> Where doesn’t it? John 
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Re: [RBW] Tires for Clementine

[Leah Peterson]

The tires aren’t doing the dusting - we suspect the brake pads are. Did you see 
the photos? Our commute is concrete - a sidewalk made extra wide, and I don’t 
spend a lot of time on the blacktop. Cars reign supreme up here, and with those 
big, wide paths and few if any pedestrians, we stay on concrete. See my 
original post for where the speckles appear and don’t appear

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> Leah, I’ve never noticed tires “dusting” my frame .Could it be something on 
> the roads you are riding? Where on the frame does it appear? Where doesn’t 
> it? John
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Re: [RBW] Tires for Clementine

[johnboy]

Leah, I’ve never noticed tires “dusting” my frame .Could it be something on the 
roads you are riding? Where on the frame does it appear? Where doesn’t it? John

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Re: [RBW] Tires for Clementine

[masmojo]

I have to agree with the above sentiment about tires. While some Compass tires 
would certainly ride much better; I kinda felt like putting super nice tires on 
went against the whole vibe of the bike. I have a Schwalbe on the back of mine, 
but it looks exactly like the Kendas.
For the same reason I resisted the urge to put fancy Nitto racks on mine and 
it's got chunky BMX grips

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Re: [RBW] Tires for Clementine

[Eric Daume]

I sometimes still wake up at night in a cold sweat, after a nightmare about
being forced to ride Kenda Kwik Nines! :)

On Friday, September 27, 2019, Mark Roland  wrote:

> This ended up being my approach on my OC (Original Clem). I was
> planning to buy a set of Compass Switchbacks before my new bicycle even
> arrived, but like Jim, I soon got into the whole vibe, with the Bosco Bulls
> and the step-through and the fenders and back o bike bags, and the tires
> were just fine. They weren't "high performance" but they didn't decrease
> the fun in any way.
>
> On Thursday, September 26, 2019 at 4:23:32 PM UTC-4, Jim Bronson wrote:
>>
>> I didn't like the Kendas on my Clem Smith Jr at first either, but after
>> some consideration, I decided to just keep them until they wear out, or
>> until I have money burning a hole in my pocket, which is currently NOT the
>> case.
>>
>> They are slower and heavier than other tires, but I find that if I just
>> accept the slower speed it doesn't diminish my enjoyment of the bike.  I
>> don't use my Clem like a road bike, it's more relaxed than that.  I just
>> put out the same amount of effort that I would otherwise and whatever speed
>> I achieve, is whatever speed I achieve.  Yea I'm 3 or more MPH slower than
>> I am on my Rivendell Road Standard shod with Compass LoupLoup Pass tires,
>> but who cares.  Well I don't at any rate.
>>
>> Plus the Kendas have the added advantage of being very flat resistant.  I
>> don't even take a spare tube with me when I ride my Clem.  Granted, I don't
>> get more than 5 or 10 miles away from the house much on my Clem, but still,
>> it's somewhat liberating to feel that sort of confidence.
>>
>> *I do carry spare tubes most of the time, but the couple of times I
>> forgot to put my saddlebag back on, I just shrugged it off and kept riding.
>>
>> Jim
>> Austin, TX
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 10:16 PM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
>> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I have a 2015 Clementine with the original Kenda tires. I have heard
>>> those aren’t nice tires and I’m starting to suspect the rumors are true.
>>> “Boggy” someone once said, and that makes sense to me.
>>>
>>> At any rate, something worse is happening. Every day I come home from
>>> the school commute and notice black speckles all over my legs, and more on
>>> my left leg than right. The dots are not like grease - they LOOK like
>>> grease but wipe off like dust. I took a video of this but think it might be
>>> weird to post leg videos. At any rate, I suspected the stuff was coming
>>> from the chain. Joe Bernard told me to get a chain cleaner and get at it,
>>> which I did, and now my chain is clean but I still have the problem.
>>> Roberta asked about my tires. Are they flaking off? They don’t appear to
>>> be, but I don’t know.
>>>
>>> Whatever the problem, doesn’t this seem like a good excuse to get new
>>> tires?
>>>
>>> I would love your input here. I want them to be the same fatness
>>> (there’s a technical term!) that I have now, because I LOVE them and
>>> because they fit with my fenders. I need puncture resistance. I have a
>>> healthy fear of flats and zero skills to fix them. I’m telling you I live
>>> dangerously. That is all!
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Re: [RBW] Tires for Clementine

[Mark Roland]

This ended up being my approach on my OC (Original Clem). I was 
planning to buy a set of Compass Switchbacks before my new bicycle even 
arrived, but like Jim, I soon got into the whole vibe, with the Bosco Bulls 
and the step-through and the fenders and back o bike bags, and the tires 
were just fine. They weren't "high performance" but they didn't decrease 
the fun in any way.

On Thursday, September 26, 2019 at 4:23:32 PM UTC-4, Jim Bronson wrote:
>
> I didn't like the Kendas on my Clem Smith Jr at first either, but after 
> some consideration, I decided to just keep them until they wear out, or 
> until I have money burning a hole in my pocket, which is currently NOT the 
> case.
>
> They are slower and heavier than other tires, but I find that if I just 
> accept the slower speed it doesn't diminish my enjoyment of the bike.  I 
> don't use my Clem like a road bike, it's more relaxed than that.  I just 
> put out the same amount of effort that I would otherwise and whatever speed 
> I achieve, is whatever speed I achieve.  Yea I'm 3 or more MPH slower than 
> I am on my Rivendell Road Standard shod with Compass LoupLoup Pass tires, 
> but who cares.  Well I don't at any rate.
>
> Plus the Kendas have the added advantage of being very flat resistant.  I 
> don't even take a spare tube with me when I ride my Clem.  Granted, I don't 
> get more than 5 or 10 miles away from the house much on my Clem, but still, 
> it's somewhat liberating to feel that sort of confidence.
>
> *I do carry spare tubes most of the time, but the couple of times I forgot 
> to put my saddlebag back on, I just shrugged it off and kept riding.
>
> Jim 
> Austin, TX
>
> On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 10:16 PM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
> jonasa...@gmail.com > wrote:
>
>> I have a 2015 Clementine with the original Kenda tires. I have heard 
>> those aren’t nice tires and I’m starting to suspect the rumors are true. 
>> “Boggy” someone once said, and that makes sense to me. 
>>
>> At any rate, something worse is happening. Every day I come home from the 
>> school commute and notice black speckles all over my legs, and more on my 
>> left leg than right. The dots are not like grease - they LOOK like grease 
>> but wipe off like dust. I took a video of this but think it might be weird 
>> to post leg videos. At any rate, I suspected the stuff was coming from the 
>> chain. Joe Bernard told me to get a chain cleaner and get at it, which I 
>> did, and now my chain is clean but I still have the problem. Roberta asked 
>> about my tires. Are they flaking off? They don’t appear to be, but I don’t 
>> know.
>>
>> Whatever the problem, doesn’t this seem like a good excuse to get new 
>> tires? 
>>
>> I would love your input here. I want them to be the same fatness (there’s 
>> a technical term!) that I have now, because I LOVE them and because they 
>> fit with my fenders. I need puncture resistance. I have a healthy fear of 
>> flats and zero skills to fix them. I’m telling you I live dangerously. That 
>> is all! 
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Re: [RBW] Tires for Clementine

[Joe Bernard]

Party on Garth 

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Re: [RBW] Tires for Clementine

[Garth]

  Yeah !  It's funny how all so-called dis-ease with not just tires, but 
anything and everything, is a *comparison*.  The thing is though, the 
present is incomparable. No matter how or what or where or who or how 
you're riding, for example,, you can't make it any faster or slower or 
better or worse in any way, you cannot change the present being, It always 
is presently Being , always on time, never late, early, fast or slow . 
immeasurable as there isn't anything to/from/as which to compare.  I'm 
not saying anything that isn't inherently known and living  this is 
appreciation for and as LIFE BEING !  

 

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[RBW] Tires for Clementine

[Joe Bernard]

Yep, I usually run between the two numbers, or if there's only a maximum I'll 
go 10-15 under it. My bones are older than Leah's and less tolerant of rattling 


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[RBW] Tires for Clementine

[in Dallas nick]

I'm in the market for a set of 650b / 27.5 tires also .
I'm considering these Maxxis Refuse , size 27.5 x 2.0In a folding tire at 610 
grams,  not a terrible weight
for a 2" wide tire and not too high on price at 42 bucks each.
I've had good luck with other Maxxis tires.Shows double puncture protection on 
these Refuse.
It reminds me of the tread on my 700x42 Continental Contact Speed tires that 
roll nice and have good flat resistance. My riding buddy and I have 2 pairs 
each.
If they came in a 650b I'd get a pair.Dang , I just found they do come in a 
27.5 x 2!
This discussion has helped me also. Thanks!
Maxxis 
Refusehttps://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=83492


Continental Contact Speed 
https://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=92314

Good luck on your hunt for the right tires for you.
Does anyone else split the difference between the minimum and maximum PSI 
inflation recommendation on the side of the tire?
Paul in Dallas

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Re: [RBW] Tires for Clementine

[Jim Bronson]

I didn't like the Kendas on my Clem Smith Jr at first either, but after
some consideration, I decided to just keep them until they wear out, or
until I have money burning a hole in my pocket, which is currently NOT the
case.

They are slower and heavier than other tires, but I find that if I just
accept the slower speed it doesn't diminish my enjoyment of the bike.  I
don't use my Clem like a road bike, it's more relaxed than that.  I just
put out the same amount of effort that I would otherwise and whatever speed
I achieve, is whatever speed I achieve.  Yea I'm 3 or more MPH slower than
I am on my Rivendell Road Standard shod with Compass LoupLoup Pass tires,
but who cares.  Well I don't at any rate.

Plus the Kendas have the added advantage of being very flat resistant.  I
don't even take a spare tube with me when I ride my Clem.  Granted, I don't
get more than 5 or 10 miles away from the house much on my Clem, but still,
it's somewhat liberating to feel that sort of confidence.

*I do carry spare tubes most of the time, but the couple of times I forgot
to put my saddlebag back on, I just shrugged it off and kept riding.

Jim
Austin, TX

On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 10:16 PM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
jonasandle...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I have a 2015 Clementine with the original Kenda tires. I have heard those
> aren’t nice tires and I’m starting to suspect the rumors are true. “Boggy”
> someone once said, and that makes sense to me.
>
> At any rate, something worse is happening. Every day I come home from the
> school commute and notice black speckles all over my legs, and more on my
> left leg than right. The dots are not like grease - they LOOK like grease
> but wipe off like dust. I took a video of this but think it might be weird
> to post leg videos. At any rate, I suspected the stuff was coming from the
> chain. Joe Bernard told me to get a chain cleaner and get at it, which I
> did, and now my chain is clean but I still have the problem. Roberta asked
> about my tires. Are they flaking off? They don’t appear to be, but I don’t
> know.
>
> Whatever the problem, doesn’t this seem like a good excuse to get new
> tires?
>
> I would love your input here. I want them to be the same fatness (there’s
> a technical term!) that I have now, because I LOVE them and because they
> fit with my fenders. I need puncture resistance. I have a healthy fear of
> flats and zero skills to fix them. I’m telling you I live dangerously. That
> is all!
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Re: [RBW] Tires for Clementine

[Patrick Moore]

+ 1 for the Big Apples.

I don't know if they still make the "Liteskin" version; I expect not, since
that was meant, I think, to be a "performance" model* that has long since
been replaced by lighter and presumeably faster tires, but the "base" model
Big Apple that I used in the early 2000s was for its bulk* a quite nice
rolling tire. I used both 26" X 60 mm and 700C X 60, the Liteskin only in
the latter size.

I once gave a pair of modern (2018) 700C X 60 Big Apple standards to a
friend who had been commuting on cheap knobbies. His performance report
was: "Wow!"

Both standard (again, 15 years ago; can't speak of new ones) and Liteskin
models seemed to have the same tread and puncture belt, but the LS had more
supple sidewalls.

Both Big Apple models were *almost* goathead-proof -- tubes, no sealant.
I'd come out of the bosque after a long dirt ride with scores of thorns in
the tread, brush them off, and the tires were still holding air a couple of
days later. On pavement, not quite as proof, but they still resisted *most*
thorns compared to the other tires I used.

* The 700C X 60 standard weighed 900 grams (2 whole lbs!), while the
Liteskin was a svelte, pared-down, racing weight ... 800 grams! But again,
both seemed to roll pretty well for the mass and the puncture resistance.
(For perspective: my current Schwalbe Big Ones, the same height and breadth
as the 700C Big Apples, weigh 450 grams each; and roll like racing tires, I
kid you not. But viable only with sealant.)

My only experience with Marathons was with the 20 Marathon Racers that were
OEM on my Dahon Hon Solo. Bow wow wow wow wow. *Wow wow!* I replaced them
with (also Schwalbe) Kojaks -- better indeed; and then with Kenda Power
Bands or somesuch; better yet.

On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 3:09 AM Ian A  wrote:

> I've been surprised at how well Schwalbe Big Apple tires roll, especially
> considering their resilience. I'd recommend those based on how good they
> seem to ride on my commuter bike. Mine are 26"x 2" and feel faster than the
> Marathon Plus that were on before.
>
> In terms of the black speckles, it looks almost like grime from fresh
> tarmac or sun softened tarmac. A wide and long mudflap on the front fender
> should mitigate the issue.
>
> IanA
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[RBW] Tires for Clementine

[PaulS]

Your tires have probably dry rotted, living in a dry desert, it’s not 
surprising. Look for cracking on the sidewalls or let some air out and squeeze 
the sidewalls. Guessing you will see cracks. 

If you don’t want flats, get a touring tire. Schwalbe Marathon Plus. Not the 
best riding, but you won’t be on the side of the road changing flats. 

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aqaFrdQjQEo

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Re: [RBW] Tires for Clementine

[Eric Daume]

If the stock tires are the Kenda Kwik Nines, they are awful, slow,
uncomfortable junk. I was surprised how much faster and smoother my Clem
rode when I replaced them with 44mm Resist Nomads. Even though the Nomads
were narrower, they were so much smoother since the sidewalls weren’t made
of concrete.

So, even if the tires aren’t the source of your black spots, it’s still
worth upgrading.

On Wednesday, September 25, 2019, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
jonasandle...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I have a 2015 Clementine with the original Kenda tires. I have heard those
> aren’t nice tires and I’m starting to suspect the rumors are true. “Boggy”
> someone once said, and that makes sense to me.
>
> At any rate, something worse is happening. Every day I come home from the
> school commute and notice black speckles all over my legs, and more on my
> left leg than right. The dots are not like grease - they LOOK like grease
> but wipe off like dust. I took a video of this but think it might be weird
> to post leg videos. At any rate, I suspected the stuff was coming from the
> chain. Joe Bernard told me to get a chain cleaner and get at it, which I
> did, and now my chain is clean but I still have the problem. Roberta asked
> about my tires. Are they flaking off? They don’t appear to be, but I don’t
> know.
>
> Whatever the problem, doesn’t this seem like a good excuse to get new
> tires?
>
> I would love your input here. I want them to be the same fatness (there’s
> a technical term!) that I have now, because I LOVE them and because they
> fit with my fenders. I need puncture resistance. I have a healthy fear of
> flats and zero skills to fix them. I’m telling you I live dangerously. That
> is all!
>
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Re: [RBW] Tires for Clementine

[Conway Bennett]

The black specs are probably and rubber from the tire rubbing, check your brake 
pads to see if they aren't hitting the sidewall near the bead.

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Re: [RBW] Tires for Clementine

[Ian A]

I've been surprised at how well Schwalbe Big Apple tires roll, especially 
considering their resilience. I'd recommend those based on how good they seem 
to ride on my commuter bike. Mine are 26"x 2" and feel faster than the Marathon 
Plus that were on before.

In terms of the black speckles, it looks almost like grime from fresh tarmac or 
sun softened tarmac. A wide and long mudflap on the front fender should 
mitigate the issue.

IanA

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Re: [RBW] Tires for Clementine

[Jeffrey B]

I think you might like these tires:

https://www.rivbike.com/collections/tires/products/schwalbe-big-ben-wire-raceguard-performance-line-hs439-700c-x-50-50-622-28x2-00-10129?variant=12239849095279

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[RBW] Tires for Clementine

[Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!]

I have a 2015 Clementine with the original Kenda tires. I have heard those 
aren’t nice tires and I’m starting to suspect the rumors are true. “Boggy” 
someone once said, and that makes sense to me. 

At any rate, something worse is happening. Every day I come home from the 
school commute and notice black speckles all over my legs, and more on my left 
leg than right. The dots are not like grease - they LOOK like grease but wipe 
off like dust. I took a video of this but think it might be weird to post leg 
videos. At any rate, I suspected the stuff was coming from the chain. Joe 
Bernard told me to get a chain cleaner and get at it, which I did, and now my 
chain is clean but I still have the problem. Roberta asked about my tires. Are 
they flaking off? They don’t appear to be, but I don’t know.

Whatever the problem, doesn’t this seem like a good excuse to get new tires? 

I would love your input here. I want them to be the same fatness (there’s a 
technical term!) that I have now, because I LOVE them and because they fit with 
my fenders. I need puncture resistance. I have a healthy fear of flats and zero 
skills to fix them. I’m telling you I live dangerously. That is all! 

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