[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne geometry is up at RBW site!

2008-12-24 Thread palincss
Quoting PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com: http://flickr.com/photos/t2architect/3128394163/in/set-72157610331529941/ Gawd, that's even *pretty! It certainly is. And, like every other attractive threadless stem I've ever seen, it lacks the one major advantage commonly associated with

[RBW] Re: NAHBS Indianapolis

2008-12-24 Thread JoelMatthews
There is a service that makes a special bike box and ships Fedex store to Fedex store in the lower 48. I think they are looking at expanding over seas but have not got the numbers to work yet. Forget the name, but I saw someone who used it last summer. The boxes are very well designed. You do

[RBW] Re: Stems, steer tubes, threads and lack thereof

2008-12-24 Thread John McMurry
On Dec 24, 1:06 am, Atlantean softlysoftlycatcheemon...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not a fan of the 7 shaped stem, and I really really don't like the looks of track stems. A track stem and an Albatross bar? I don't think so. In all seriousness, and in no way bruskly; if you don't like 7-shaped

[RBW] Re: Stems, steer tubes, threads and lack thereof

2008-12-24 Thread Atlantean
Joel, use whatever you like. That's what I do. I am not trying to make you use a threadless fork, after all. Lots of people have managed to work out the aesthetics somehow. For me the most important issue is flex, and it will not go away no matter how lovely Nitto quill stems may be. Also, there

[RBW] Re: F/S 1pr 650B Nifty Swifties

2008-12-24 Thread RodC
A good rule of thumb for tire width WRT to INSIDE Rim Width, IRW: ROAD: 1.4 to 2/2.5 times IRW so for a rim with inside width of 17mm: Tires of 24mm - 35/42mm or so. Brake and QR release will temper max tire width choice for easy tire removal. MTB 1.4-3 times IRW The IRW of most rims will be

[RBW] Re: NAHBS Indianapolis

2008-12-24 Thread BPustow
That would be _www.aircaddy.com_ (http://www.aircaddy.com) . I used them this summer and it was a very positive experience. I believed they charged me $99 and they say the box will last for about 3 round trips. At that point, a replacement box costs $39. What's really nice is that you

[RBW] Re: Stems, steer tubes, threads and lack thereof

2008-12-24 Thread Atlantean
John, the stem I was using with the Albatross was an old Cinelli 7 stem, down as low as it would go. It actually looked pretty good, but I could not get the grips level with the saddle without removing the stock spacers and cutting the fork. Even then it might not have gotten the job done. The

[RBW] Re: Stems, steer tubes, threads and lack thereof

2008-12-24 Thread palincss
Quoting Atlantean softlysoftlycatcheemon...@gmail.com: Steve, I explained the limitations in my previous post. Possibly not very clearly. The Atlantis has an extra tall steer tube, accommodated by some spacers. I am glad I did not cut the fork, because I found handlebar bliss on my Atlantis

[RBW] Re: NAHBS Indianapolis

2008-12-24 Thread BPustow
Jim, I agree in part. Taking the bike to your local bike shop to pack works well. They have the boxes, protective packing material ,and the experience to pack you bike and get it to your destination safely. They're going to do it right because they have a relationship with you. The

[RBW] Re: NAHBS Indianapolis

2008-12-24 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
If you don't have to turn the bars or remove the pedals, it will necessarily be much larger than a standard bike box. I don't know the exact size criteria, but there's usually a point where the box goes from one size category to the next, and the price more or less doubles. If you can pack it in

[RBW] Re: Stems, steer tubes, threads and lack thereof

2008-12-24 Thread palincss
Quoting Atlantean softlysoftlycatcheemon...@gmail.com: As stated, I *did* push the Cinelli stem all the way down, but the Albatross was still too high. Cutting the fork *might* have gotten the bar low enough, but there were other issues and if it did not work, then I would still have a

[RBW] Re: Stems, steer tubes, threads and lack thereof

2008-12-24 Thread Atlantean
I don't mean to contribute to thread drift, but I have an Albatross on a tandem, and I love it. That bike has a 1-1/4 threaded fork, so the quill stem is very beefy. 150mm of extension and 90 degrees worked out very well and is quite stiff. The Albatross is the extra wide chromoly version, and

[RBW] Re: Stems, steer tubes, threads and lack thereof

2008-12-24 Thread tarik saleh
On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 8:53 AM, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: To say threadless stems are a solution in search of a problem is nonsense. I don't care who said it. Whoever it was probably hates mountain bikes, a common affliction among roadies. The quote is attributed to Richard

[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne geometry is up at RBW site!

2008-12-24 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Or, if you're really picky, use an NVO stem system: http://www.nvocomponents.com/ -Jim G Gawd, that's **ugly**!! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to

[RBW] Re: Stems, steer tubes, threads and lack thereof

2008-12-24 Thread Jeremy Till
Frankly, i'm a surprised that this topic has brought up so many arguments on both sides. I always thought that 1 threaded headsets and quill stems were a Rivendell thing, as integral to the identity of the bikes as steel and lugs (excepting the Legolas, of course). I wouldn't ask GP to change

[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne geometry is up at RBW site!

2008-12-24 Thread PATRICK MOORE
On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 7:26 PM, John McMurry johnmcmu...@gmail.com wrote: Well, here in the Northeast, that doesn't fly. If you ride in the rain, in the snow, in the mud, or dirt around here for several thousand a year, annual maintenance is necessary; unless you're willing to dispose of

[RBW] Re: Stems, steer tubes, threads and lack thereof

2008-12-24 Thread palincss
Quoting Atlantean softlysoftlycatcheemon...@gmail.com: One advantage of threadless forks, from a manufacturing and commercial point of view, is the fact that you only need to make one fork to fit a whole size run of frames. This makes things much easier and significantly less expensive. It

[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne geometry is up at RBW site!

2008-12-24 Thread JoelMatthews
Back to quill versus Aheadset: I think I'd choose an Aheadset for a new custom, with a custom stem so that I would not have to use spacers. Or perhaps custom made spacer to avoid the rings on the neck look. Guess I am the opposite. My first custom is threadless. I ultimately had a custom

[RBW] Re: NAHBS Indianapolis

2008-12-24 Thread Dr. Bill
Here's a link to some links regarding riding options in the Indpls/ central Indiana area. http://circlecitybicycles.com/ccinbike.htm Bill Evans On Dec 23, 10:47 pm, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: I just shipped a bike to a UPS customer center near the customer's

[RBW] cross country rider

2008-12-24 Thread Sarah Gibson
thought yall might enjoy this http://www.bikingforobama.com/ even have a place for him stay ifn yr on the route peace well behaved women rarely make history _ride yr friggin bicycle_ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are

[RBW] Re: Stems, steer tubes, threads and lack thereof

2008-12-24 Thread Tim McNamara
On Dec 24, 2008, at 10:53 AM, Jeremy Till wrote: Frankly, i'm a surprised that this topic has brought up so many arguments on both sides. I always thought that 1 threaded headsets and quill stems were a Rivendell thing, as integral to the identity of the bikes as steel and lugs (excepting

[RBW] Re: Stems, steer tubes, threads and lack thereof

2008-12-24 Thread Atlantean
Kogswell! Who knew? Thanks for the tip, Steve. That's exactly the sort of info I was hoping to find when I dove into this discussion. I just went to the Kogswell site, and could not find any forks for sale, so I guess the telephone is their preferred marketing tool. I like Kogswell and check

[RBW] Re: Stems, steer tubes, threads and lack thereof

2008-12-24 Thread Atlantean
I usually just leave the bike on the floor, straddle it, remove the top cap, loosen the stem and pull it off. You can hold the hadlebar in one hand while moving spacers around with the other, and then put it all back together. I usually use a similar procedure when swapping stems, but you need to

[RBW] Re: Stems, steer tubes, threads and lack thereof

2008-12-24 Thread erik jensen
Dear Rivendellians, Clearly none have considered the benefits of planing as regards the problematic of threaded stem flex. This slight, often imperceptible, distortion under duress netted by a quill pays off greatly in the subharmonic release of said stored energy and propells the rider through

[RBW] Re: NAHBS Indianapolis

2008-12-24 Thread Doug Peterson
That sounds fantastic - please try to remember the name of the service post. Packing re-assembling the bike is always a challenge. I urge people to do it themselves so they know how to at the other end. But just popping it into a box picking up at the destination city is probably worth

[RBW] Re: NAHBS Indianapolis: SS

2008-12-24 Thread Doug Peterson
Jim: Who did the conversion for you? Did they insist on re-painting the entire frame? dougP -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 7:31 AM To:

[RBW] Re: NAHBS Indianapolis

2008-12-24 Thread JoelMatthews
Doug: Almost certain it is the AirCaddy Bill links above. On Dec 24, 12:46 pm, Doug Peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: That sounds fantastic - please try to remember the name of the service post.   Packing re-assembling the bike is always a challenge.  I urge people to do it themselves so

[RBW] Re: cross country rider

2008-12-24 Thread JoelMatthews
Thanks for the link. Guy is truly inspired. Even the southern tier this time of the year can get dicey weather. On Dec 24, 8:44 am, Sarah Gibson sadieja...@hotmail.com wrote: thought yall might enjoy this http://www.bikingforobama.com/ even have a place for him stay ifn yr on the route

[RBW] Re: Stems, steer tubes, threads and lack thereof

2008-12-24 Thread PATRICK MOORE
In my considered opinion, Erik was being facetious. On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 12:35 PM, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: They both work fine, and I still have no idea what the original 'problem' even was. Ride your bike, and by all means if you need that extra .3 mph in a sprint

[RBW] Re: Stems, steer tubes, threads and lack thereof

2008-12-24 Thread JoelMatthews
In my considered opinion, Erik was being facetious. I was trying to be as well. Unfortunately, I note my spelling is rather poor. On Dec 24, 1:37 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: In my considered opinion, Erik was being facetious. On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 12:35 PM,

[RBW] Re: NAHBS Indianapolis: SS

2008-12-24 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
Curt Goodrich did the conversion, along with a few other braze-ons. The paint was beat up before Curt took the torch to it, and it was absolutely scorched afterward. I had it powdercoated all black at Spectrum. On Dec 24, 12:56 pm, Doug Peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: Jim: Who did the

[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne geometry is up at RBW site!

2008-12-24 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Tue, 2008-12-23 at 12:03 -0800, Chris Halasz wrote: Tried a bike this past year with a threadless stem; it was the largest sized, and I could *not* find a production stem that brought the bars within a cm of saddle height (cm to zero difference) that wasn't stretched too far, or just

[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne geometry is up at RBW site!

2008-12-24 Thread Invisible
With respect to your opinion, I don't think standard threadless stems are ugly. I also don't think it's relevant. I prefer threadless stems for the reasons I listed in my first post to this thread: they make it easier to change stems and handlebars, and they can be serviced or adjusted with just

[RBW] Re: Stems, steer tubes, threads and lack thereof

2008-12-24 Thread Angus
Eric, Stem Planing You might be on the something...I wonder, with insufficient fastener torque, if one could induce brake lever planing or handlebar planing. I have an old Guerciotti Aluminum (I belive it was made by Alan) that has a 1 threaded, all aluminum fork...think about this...the

[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne geometry is up at RBW site!

2008-12-24 Thread Atlantean
Wesley, the problem is with using a threadless stem on the threaded portion of a steer tube. That would not be a secure connection, but it would be a good way to start cutting threads into the clamp area of the stem. If you mean using a threaded fork with the threaded part cut off, then yes,

[RBW] Re: Stems, steer tubes, threads and lack thereof

2008-12-24 Thread Mike
Stem Planing You might be on the something...I wonder, with insufficient fastener torque, if one could induce brake lever planing or handlebar planing. I love it! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW

[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne geometry is up at RBW site!

2008-12-24 Thread JoelMatthews
I also don't think it's relevant Looks are relevant when the discussion is Rivendell. Certainly Rivs have a lot more going for them than their good looks, but looks is part of the reason they have such a loyal following. Otherwise, a lot more Riv owners would have bought a Surly. they can

[RBW] ride report: circling Manhattan on a Ramb

2008-12-24 Thread Will
Happy holidays everyone. Since the perimeter of the island of Manhattan is now mostly bike paths, it's possible to circle the island by bike with minimal street use. Best time of year? Now, when it's cold outside, and the usual congestion of joggers/rollerbladers/ walkers are indoors. Best tool

[RBW] Re: Hillborne Foy Mini Report - From Monday

2008-12-24 Thread RonLau
Jim, Nice, I tried the mixte a few weeks ago, feel lighter than other. What did GP say about the tubing choice? Also, I myself prefer the plastic cable guide on the BB, which is new for them. Ron On Dec 24, 6:17 pm, CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote: Hey there - Had a chance to

[RBW] Re: ride report: circling Manhattan on a Ramb

2008-12-24 Thread David Estes
OK, be honest now, are you BSNYC? How many miles is a ride around the island? Cheers, DE On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 6:23 PM, Will wpm...@gmail.com wrote: Happy holidays everyone. Since the perimeter of the island of Manhattan is now mostly bike paths, it's possible to circle the island by

[RBW] Re: ride report: circling Manhattan on a Ramb

2008-12-24 Thread Weird Harold
Hey Will - I live right by Chelsea Pier. I'll be looking for your bike on the path... I have a white Bridgestone XO-2.. Going to the Riv store in SF in a week or so.. very excited... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to