Re: [RBW] Best Rivendell for pavement riding

2024-03-05 Thread larson....@gmail.com
Luke, I must have missed the fact that the Atlantis will be available. It was not listed on frame schedule. To the OP, I think a Hillborne would be a fine road bike if speed is not a priority. Randy in WI On Tuesday, March 5, 2024 at 12:34:54 AM UTC-6 John Dewey wrote: > John, brakes are

[RBW] Re: Trip Report: Death Valley February 2024

2024-03-05 Thread ascpgh
Wow, what a great trip! When I read ride reports I often drift into amazement at the landscapes so foreign (or just alien) to my regular environs. Part of the adventure is simply facing the unusual or unknown and turning that first pedal stroke. Andy Cheatham Pittsburgh On Sunday, March 3,

[RBW] Anyone else not a fan of the very long chainstays?

2024-03-05 Thread J S
I tried an Atlantis but was not enamored. Sold it and got a Hillborne which I love but still not as much as my finally found Saluki but like it a lot. I am probably in the minority here but I know there must be others who share my sentiments. I have had so many Rivs, 2 roads, one custom when

[RBW] Re: Hub recommendations for Velocity Cliffhangers

2024-03-05 Thread Patch T
Lots of great recommendations for hubs at different price points, so I'll leave that point alone. iwritela mentions: *I don't backpack, so a dynamo is unnecessary.* I'm sure iwritela knows this and wrote something else - but you don't have to backpack or bikepack in order to justify a dynamo

Re: [RBW] Winter Riding in Alberta

2024-03-05 Thread Mack Penner
Thanks, John! And thanks, Ian! I love it here on the prairie although it's hard not to think that a move to Vic will be at least a slight upgrade :) Mack On Monday, March 4, 2024 at 6:58:28 PM UTC-7 iwdbu...@gmail.com wrote: > I’m so disappointed that I didn’t discover these videos until

Re: [RBW] Re: Hub recommendations for Velocity Cliffhangers

2024-03-05 Thread Richard Rose
Rear Cliffhanger on my Gus is built with this Bitex hub. It’s been very good for the first 2k miles.Sent from my iPhoneOn Mar 4, 2024, at 1:24 PM, Johnny Alien wrote:I find the Analog review of the Bitex hub to be very accurate. They are very close to the WI hubs at a small fraction of the cost.

Re: [RBW] Box Size for 59 Clem

2024-03-05 Thread Richard Rose
Frame set or complete? This is the box my 57 Gus frame/fork came in. I feel certain a 59 would fit - there was ample room.Sent from my iPhoneOn Mar 5, 2024, at 8:14 AM, Isaac Martin wrote:Does anybody happen to have a box that a 59 clem or 60 platypus or similar length bike was shipped in? Would

[RBW] Re: Anyone else not a fan of the very long chainstays?

2024-03-05 Thread Brian Turner
I've groused about this before a bit, - it's more about the fact that I think that design characteristic is great for certain models, but doesn't need to be applied to the majority of the Rivendell lineup, IMO. As the owner of a Gus, I think it's great for that bike and it's intended purpose.

[RBW] Re: Anyone else not a fan of the very long chainstays?

2024-03-05 Thread Tim Bantham
I can relate to this. For me there are pros and cons. For example, the Clem I bought a few years ago was intended to be an analog mountain bike. I found the long chainstays to be a liability for east coast single track. This is especially the case with tight turns and the need to carry the

Re: [RBW] Re: Hub recommendations for Velocity Cliffhangers

2024-03-05 Thread Brian Turner
*I don't backpack, so a dynamo is unnecessary.* Although I am certainly glad to have it, the bike I use the most for bikepacking is probably the one I use my dynamo light on the least. Probably because on multi-day trips, I rarely find myself biking through the darkness for long periods of

Re: [RBW] Best Rivendell for pavement riding

2024-03-05 Thread Mathias Steiner
Hi Chuck, I've never owned a Rivendell, so I believe it's important I chime in... because of this: >> I tried a Roadini (which I recently listed here and sold), but I think it was too big for me. It probably wasn't too "big", it was probably too long in the top tube. In the current Riv idea

[RBW] Box Size for 59 Clem

2024-03-05 Thread Isaac Martin
Does anybody happen to have a box that a 59 clem or 60 platypus or similar length bike was shipped in? Would you be so kind to measure it for me? I need to source a box to move and don't want to get too large as I will be paying by volume, and will obviously need one long enough to fit the

Re: [RBW] Best Rivendell for pavement riding

2024-03-05 Thread Max S
Really great points made by Mathias, and also by Patrick in his post about iterating... IMO, the easiest way to find a good bike is to set your budget and then make a post whose subject starts with "WTB:.. " – all sorts of cool and awesome bikes will emerge that fit your criteria! - Max

Re: [RBW] Re: Hub recommendations for Velocity Cliffhangers

2024-03-05 Thread Jay Lonner
I think the real use case for using a dynohub while bikepacking is to keep USB accessories topped up. Yes yes, one should try to unplug while in the wilderness etc., but being able to access .gpx files or use routefinding apps like Ride With GPS is clearly synergistic with the traditional

Re: [RBW] Best Rivendell for pavement riding

2024-03-05 Thread Damien
I had a Sam up until recently but sold it and have very recently replaced with a Ram which I've yet to get out on (am going to swap out the Albatross currently on them for drop bars). Not sure what size you're looking at, but the thing for me was I wanted a 700c bike, and the Sam that fit me

Re: [RBW] Box Size for 59 Clem

2024-03-05 Thread Richard Rose
Sorry, I see you are moving. Must be a complete.Sent from my iPhoneOn Mar 5, 2024, at 8:14 AM, Isaac Martin wrote:Does anybody happen to have a box that a 59 clem or 60 platypus or similar length bike was shipped in? Would you be so kind to measure it for me?I need to source a box to move and

Re: [RBW] Best Rivendell for pavement riding

2024-03-05 Thread Chuck Blessing
Mathias, Max, Damien, thanks. A lot of good information in your posts. Riding and experimenting with different models may be the only way to find that "perfect" bike, if there is such a thing. I have to admit that I've been riding an All City Space Horse for a while now, which I picked up to

[RBW] Re: Anyone else not a fan of the very long chainstays?

2024-03-05 Thread Mackenzy Albright
for an upright bike I *love* the long chain stays on my Clementine for off road climbing and descending. I don't struggle much with technical riding - except it can be a little more hard to avoid certain roots or rocks. The 29er tires eat that up though. I *do* miss having a short wheelbase

Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone else not a fan of the very long chainstays?

2024-03-05 Thread J S
I like the bit longer chain stays of my Sam and Saluki as well but that is as long as I need. On Tue, Mar 5, 2024 at 12:01 PM Tim Bantham wrote: > I can relate to this. For me there are pros and cons. For example, the > Clem I bought a few years ago was intended to be an analog mountain bike. I

Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone else not a fan of the very long chainstays?

2024-03-05 Thread Eric Daume
My guess is that Grant thinks the long chainstays are the clear winner, so why make a lesser design? (I completely understand they aren't a clear win for everybody) It's also a way to differentiate Riv products--there aren't that many long chainstay bikes around. Eric On Tue, Mar 5, 2024 at

Re: [RBW] Winter Riding in Alberta

2024-03-05 Thread John Bokman
Up grade is right! My family and I visited Vic last summer, and oh boy, there are some steep grades on that island. Didn't have my bike with me, but the trail system looked fantastic. -John On Tuesday, March 5, 2024 at 8:20:31 AM UTC-8 penne...@gmail.com wrote: > Thanks, John! And thanks,

Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone else not a fan of the very long chainstays?

2024-03-05 Thread Bill Lindsay
I promise you that Rivendell is flattered that nice people gather themselves to complain about the former-models that Riv no longer makes. It shows a love for Rivendell that most other bike brands don't get. There's no Specialized google group where current Specialized fans are griping about

Re: [RBW] Box Size for 59 Clem

2024-03-05 Thread Garth
These boxes are so large that they go dimensional weight, meaning, over a certain size box you basically pay through the nose regardless of how much larger the box than what qualifies for dimensional(oversize) weight in the first place. For example, my 59 Susie frame box is 53x11x35 and double

Re: [RBW] Best Rivendell for pavement riding

2024-03-05 Thread Piaw Na
I own a 54cm Roadini (for myself) and a 50cm (for my son who will soon outgrow his Salsa Journeyman). I'd set up my Roadini as a gravel bike with wide tires but recently a friend borrowed my son's Roadini for her first ride over a dirt path in less than dry conditions I swapped the wheels on

Re: [RBW] Philadelphia Bike Expo March 16 - 17

2024-03-05 Thread Roberta
Tim-- The Coffee Outside Philly will be on Saturday or the normal Sunday (lots of nice people there). Roberta On Monday, March 4, 2024 at 11:43:23 AM UTC-5 timothym...@gmail.com wrote: > I live in Philly but I'll be there with my Sam on Saturday. Would love to > get a Riv ride together - maybe

Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone else not a fan of the very long chainstays?

2024-03-05 Thread Armand Kizirian
I bought my Platypus because the long chainstays were part of having a bicycle that is designed around the upright riding position, differentiating it from the 80's mtb's I've turned into upright commuters in the past. If you have multiple Rivendells and wish to buy one with shorter

Re: [RBW] Box Size for 59 Clem

2024-03-05 Thread Eric Daume
Shipping cost will still go up with dimensions. I’ve shipped enough bikes and frames to learn that cutting down boxes can make a significant difference (while still being in the oversized/dimensional weight category). Eric On Tuesday, March 5, 2024, Garth wrote: > These boxes are so large

Re: [RBW] Best Rivendell for pavement riding

2024-03-05 Thread Heike Larson
Hi Chuck--as you asked about the Appaloosa and a drop-bar alternative, I'll chime in: I have a 51" 650B Appaloosa with Nitto Choco bars , which Riv describes thus: "It's also good for road

Re: [RBW] Philadelphia Bike Expo March 16 - 17

2024-03-05 Thread Tim Burke
Doh! Good catch, Roberta! Coffee outside is sunday here's the link to the PBE event info https://phillybikeexpo.com/coffee-outside-pbe-edition/ On Tue, Mar 5, 2024 at 2:19 PM Roberta wrote: > Tim-- > The Coffee Outside Philly will be on Saturday or the normal Sunday (lots > of nice people

[RBW] Building a Quickbeam and wondering...

2024-03-05 Thread David
What are your drivetrain specs? Cranks, chainrings, etc. Simpleones, too, if that's what you're riding. It appears Riv doesn't offer the classic single speed crankset anymore. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To

Re: [RBW] Re: Hub recommendations for Velocity Cliffhangers

2024-03-05 Thread Lucio Rodriguez
Thank you all for the fantastic recommendations. The Phil Wood hubs look amazing, and it appears they perform just as beautifully. However, I can't find the touring hub that fits my bike/rim specifications available anywhere so I will opt for the Bitex. White Industries seems to be a great

[RBW] Re: Building a Quickbeam and wondering...

2024-03-05 Thread David
Very creative. Personally looking for simpler, streamlined inspiration, but these are nice options you're running. On Tuesday, March 5, 2024 at 12:26:11 PM UTC-8 Bill Lindsay wrote: > I run a Riv Silver triple with 40/37/34 chainrings on my Quickbeam. I > modified a rare and unusual Shimano

Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone else not a fan of the very long chainstays?

2024-03-05 Thread Victor Hanson
that's shear brilliance! Long chainstays don't matter a single attribute. It's the complete frame design that matters. At any rate design and fit are the second most important. A kook taught me: "first you; then style and fit, then stuff VTW On Tue, Mar 5, 2024 at 10:13 AM Bill

[RBW] Re: Building a Quickbeam and wondering...

2024-03-05 Thread Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY
I rode my quickbeam with a 69-70 gear inch drivetrain. I had a 16/19 white industries freewheel but never ran it on the 19… -Kai On Tuesday, March 5, 2024 at 4:06:32 PM UTC-5 David wrote: > Very creative. Personally looking for simpler, streamlined inspiration, > but these are nice options

[RBW] Re: Building a Quickbeam and wondering...

2024-03-05 Thread Jason Fuller
Any 110 BCD crank like Sugino or S!lver would do the trick nicely, perhaps a 38T and pant guard paired to a 17t (flat area) or 18t (hillier area) White Industries freewheel On Tuesday 5 March 2024 at 13:56:12 UTC-8 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY wrote: > I rode my quickbeam with a 69-70 gear inch

Re: [RBW] Re: Hub recommendations for Velocity Cliffhangers

2024-03-05 Thread Johnny Alien
For me personally I don't see the need for the dyno hubs. USB lights generally have more available options, are lighter, are brighter, and don't require a special setup (hub/wiring/etc). I understand and appreciate the "I don't want to charge anything" view but the sacrifice is extra weight

[RBW] Re: Building a Quickbeam and wondering...

2024-03-05 Thread Bill Lindsay
I run a Riv Silver triple with 40/37/34 chainrings on my Quickbeam. I modified a rare and unusual Shimano cassette hub to fit 120 OLD. On that I run three Problem Solvers cassette cogs at 16/19/22. As a result I have three single speed "gears" with three chain positions, all with the same

Re: [RBW] Best Rivendell for pavement riding

2024-03-05 Thread Chuck Blessing
Thanks Heike. I was considering the Appaloosa, but it might be more stout than what I need. Appreciate the first-hand report on the Choco bar, as it sounds like it might work for me. Will definitely keep it in mind. On Tuesday, March 5, 2024 at 2:01:43 PM UTC-5 heike...@gmail.com wrote: > Hi

Re: [RBW] Best Rivendell for pavement riding

2024-03-05 Thread J J
Chuck, I believe the best Rivendell for pavement riding is whichever Rivendell that fits you well and is comfortable for your body, that pleases you mechanically and aesthetically, that is within your budget, and that accomplishes whatever goals for the type of riding you hope to do. You said

[RBW] Re: Building a Quickbeam and wondering...

2024-03-05 Thread Bill Lindsay
Fair enough. On the simpler side I have a fixie at my office in Michigan, where the biggest hill is a freeway overpass. On that bike (Crust Florida Man) I run a Campy square taper road crank with a 39T ring and a chain guard with a 16T fixed cog on a Surly Ultra New rear hub. There's a 16T

[RBW] Re: WTB/WTT: 60cm Cheviot (would consider Platty or 59cm Clem) in NC

2024-03-05 Thread James
I am going to bump this one time. I have had some offers but should have clarified, really partial to the blue or orange Cheviot color ways. On Tuesday, February 27, 2024 at 3:53:00 PM UTC-5 James wrote: > I am looking to but a 60cm Cheviot, ideally just the F/BB/HS/F, and > ideally locally,

[RBW] Re: Building a Quickbeam and wondering...

2024-03-05 Thread Max S
I should add that I always aim for as narrow of a Q-factor as I can get on a set-up. The best has been an old Mavic 631 "Starfish" crank with a 39t chainring, mated to the narrowest (103 or 107 mm) bottom bracket I could find. The next best – by just a couple millimeters were Sun XCD and Rene

Re: [RBW] Re: Building a Quickbeam and wondering...

2024-03-05 Thread Richard Rose
Bill, your description of the landscape near your Michigan office is even more true of northwest Ohio, Toledo more precisely. It’s this geography that has me thinking a Roaduno might be fun, be it 1,2 or 3 speed.Richard - in Toledo where the only “hill” is a stiff headwind.Sent from my iPhoneOn

Re: [RBW] Anyone else not a fan of the very long chainstays?

2024-03-05 Thread Patrick Moore
The point of long chainstay "grousers" may be that so many of the shorter-stayed Rivendells were such wonderfully handling bikes. I for one am very, very glad that I learned what "perfect" road bike handling can be with 4 ~44.5 cm-stayed Rivendell road bikes and a first-gen Sam Hillborne. I've

Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone else not a fan of the very long chainstays?

2024-03-05 Thread Garth
People do lament about modern frame/parts design Bill, and they do it @Bikeforums.net in mostly the classic & vintage section :) All vintage makes and models are talked about and bought and sold and very much prized/appreciated. It is by far the most active section of BF. There's a couple of

[RBW] Re: WTB/WTT: 60cm Cheviot (would consider Platty or 59cm Clem) in NC

2024-03-05 Thread Josh C
This may be something to consider. Seems like a nice bike at a good price. https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/381948061057358/?ref=search_code=null_story_type=post=browse_serp%3A3c57205e-196a-4825-8a0c-2a78f9e602e0 On Tuesday, March 5, 2024 at 7:36:05 PM UTC-5 James wrote: > I am going

[RBW] Re: WTB- Nitto 32r Rack

2024-03-05 Thread Nathan Mattia
Still Looking!! On Friday, February 9, 2024 at 2:53:12 PM UTC-6 Nathan Mattia wrote: > I had the bigger 33r on my Sam Hillborne for a couple of years before > realizing a 650b bike is probably better suited to the 32r. > > Anyone have one of these for sale? > > -- You received this message

Re: [RBW] Re: Building a Quickbeam and wondering...

2024-03-05 Thread Ryan
Sounds like Winnipeg to me! Especially the stiff headwind bit. So for my dodgy knees and 70+ years it's 18-19 tooth WI ENO and 36 tooth front on an old XTR crank on my ancient but reliable early 70's PX-10 single speed which works in said headwind but is probably undergeared otherwise. @Max S

[RBW] Re: WTB/WTT: 60cm Cheviot (would consider Platty or 59cm Clem) in NC

2024-03-05 Thread Kim H.
In Seattle, Washington - https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/423877213473715/?ref=search_code=null_story_type=post=browse_serp%3A4c497921-5d88-4b84-be40-c13146953aa4 Kim Hetzel just south of Seattle. On Tuesday, March 5, 2024 at 4:50:42 PM UTC-8 Josh C wrote: > This may be something to