[RBW] Re: Sunglasses, cycling and civilian; LG road shoes size 44; price drop on Endura jacket

[Patrick Moore]

As an aside, I finally found some cycling or more-or-less cycling shades
that fit my somewhat narrow face with Asian bridge, and only $25: Tifosi's
regrettably-named "Swank" shades, if you choose a more subdued color
combination. The narrow-faced and Asian-nosed: take note.

Interesting too: The wood-templed and Bolle lenses are noticeably, though
only slightly, more clear than those of the Tifosis.

Note again too that the Bolles are very dark.

On Wed, May 19, 2021 at 4:05 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:

> Shipping not included; add actual postage and handling from 87120, USA.
>
> 1. Bolle wraparounds, no case, very dark, lightly used, vg condition, sit
> too loosely on my half-Asian nose, $50.
>
> 2. High end civilian sunglasses, very good lenses, wooden temples, from
> Japan? Too wide for me at 13 cm inside to inside at hinges, 14 cm inside to
> inside at ends of temples. $50.
>
> 3. Tifosi wraparounds, much used, with Tifosi case: free with purchase of
> other 2. Take all 3 for $110 shipped CONUS.
>
> 4. LG road shoes, 44, almost as new. I'm second owner and only tried them
> on to find they are too small. Previous owner said he wore them literally
> once around the block. Good for Yellow Jersey Look-pattern slotted cleats
> (these have holes for 2 of the 3 Look holes). You can change the laces to
> black. $30, what I paid for them.
>
> 5. Endura Convert jacket, Large, vg, 30" from *bottom* of neck seam to
> bottom of tail at center; 21 1/2" pit to pit. *NOTE: DEFECT!!!* A ~2" hem
> seam on the upper left sleeve started to ravel (unravel?) and I neatly
> stitched it back up with red thread; see photo. Now $40 + shipping.
>
> *Take everything for $125.00 shipped CONUS. Interested in trading for size
> 45 cycling shoe suitable for slotted cleats and clips/straps; also good toe
> straps, buttons, pads.*
>
> Thanks, Patrick
>
>
>
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> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
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Re: [RBW] Re: Sunglasses

[masmojo]

There was a time when "Sunglasses" could be any old glasses with a dark lenses. 
I remember this being an issue in the late 70s. That's when people realized 
that a dark mirrored shades might actually be worse for your eyes. 

At that point sunglasses were required to state their UV rating. Most these 
days are 100%, BUT still part of the reason I don't really trust $5. shades

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Re: [RBW] Re: Sunglasses

[William deRosset]

Hi, All,

Safety glasses in the usa are either trivex or much more commonly 
polycarbonate, both of which block uv. Not much else will pass the impact 
standards, apparently.

The sports glasses folks all have proprietary brand names for these two 
materials.

Fashion/rx glasses may be made of other materials and may or may mot block uv 
rays. 

Best Regards,

Will
William M. deRosset
Fort Collins CO USA

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Re: [RBW] Re: Sunglasses

[Leah Peterson]

Well, the problem with cheap lenses is you may get lenses that let in UV light. 
Your pupils are dilated to let in more light when you wear sunglasses, and now 
you’re inviting damaging UV rays right to your eyes...

But I understand your rationale!
Leah

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> On Jun 16, 2020, at 4:36 PM, Christopher Murray  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> This probably isn’t going to be a popular opinion but I buy my sunglasses for 
> riding, running, hiking, etc at Target or Home Depot or wherever. I have 
> worked at stores selling sunglasses. I’ve attended clinics put on by the big 
> companies, bought several pair of nice glasses, sold hundreds more, and been 
> given several pair by the brands. I don’t find them to be much better than 
> the cheap glasses, don’t find they last any longer, and enjoy not caring too 
> much about my glasses while being active. I typically get clear glasses at 
> hardware or home improvement stores and darker glasses at department stores— 
> guessing $10-15/ pair. Drop them, stuff them in a pocket, leave them at a 
> rest stop? No biggie. 
> 
> I get this isn’t for everyone but it works for me. 
> 
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[RBW] Re: Sunglasses

[Christopher Murray]

This probably isn’t going to be a popular opinion but I buy my sunglasses 
for riding, running, hiking, etc at Target or Home Depot or wherever. I 
have worked at stores selling sunglasses. I’ve attended clinics put on by 
the big companies, bought several pair of nice glasses, sold hundreds more, 
and been given several pair by the brands. I don’t find them to be much 
better than the cheap glasses, don’t find they last any longer, and enjoy 
not caring too much about my glasses while being active. I typically get 
clear glasses at hardware or home improvement stores and darker glasses at 
department stores— guessing $10-15/ pair. Drop them, stuff them in a 
pocket, leave them at a rest stop? No biggie. 

I get this isn’t for everyone but it works for me. 

Chris

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[RBW] Re: Sunglasses

[Joe Bernard]

Patrick: Your post quotes me quoting someone else about yellow lenses, I won't 
be able to help with that. If I'm riding day into night I bring along my clear 
pair in the saddlebag and swap when the sun sets. 

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[RBW] Re: Sunglasses

[Joe Bernard]

Clear Radars: Still rad, but that big-old black nose bridge was definitely 
designed to hide behind a dark lens. Love the frame color, though, which I 
would name here but I can't remember what it's called. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Sunglasses

[Patrick Moore]

Joe: Are yellow lenses good for night cycling? After dark I ride both in
areas with the usual urban and suburban ambient light (and auto headlight
glare) and on riverside trails that can be much darker. I've been using the
Tifosu photochromatic lenses, which seem to be fine, but would yellow at
night make things crisper?

Again, I have very poor night vision, tho' it's good enough at cycling
speeds with decent lighting systems, so any help in boosting contrast or
increasing the effect of available illumination would be very helpful.

Thanks.

On Tue, Jun 2, 2020 at 12:13 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:

> ... Best cloudy day lens is yellow. Totally turn a gloomy cloudy day into
> a bright sunny one. Extend your riding time for at least another 20 or 30
> miles. But if sun does come out, you're screwed as the yellow lens
> intensifies the light. Just can't win these days."
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[RBW] Re: Sunglasses

[Joe Bernard]

Leah, you look so rad! 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Sunglasses

[Doug H.]

Okay, just a slight chuckle. I am thinking welding glasses without the dark
tint? Face shield for cleaning teeth? Or, cycling at night!!
Doug

On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 1:45 PM Leah Peterson 
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> Shoot - I forgot the clear night-riding glasses. Here’s those, and I’m
> retrying a Radarlock photo since the other was sideways- why can’t Google
> be smart enough to handle this?
>
> But back to the night glasses. These are Radar Pitch that I custom made
> because I needed clear lenses and to make this rather masculine model more
> palatable for my feminine tastes. And yet, they are not cute. Not even
> passably so, but they do their job. This pair is ALL function and poor
> form. (Doug, you ought to laugh at these, if not those others!)
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> > On Jun 16, 2020, at 10:31 AM, Doug Hansford 
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> > Leah,
> > No laughing induced. They look great and as I said form follows
> function. I think Oakley makes darn fine sunglasses and are good for
> cycling or whatever. Good choice I think for you style wise. Joe is the MAN
> for Oakleys.
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[RBW] Re: Sunglasses

[Doug Hansford]

Leah,
No laughing induced. They look great and as I said form follows function. I 
think Oakley makes darn fine sunglasses and are good for cycling or whatever. 
Good choice I think for you style wise. Joe is the MAN for Oakleys. 
Doug Hansford 

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[RBW] Re: Sunglasses

[Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!]

Doug, I finally am getting around to getting you your good laugh. And to 
report back here about shades, because some of you (Patrick Moore?) were 
following this thread.

I really ended up liking Oakleys. They eliminate the issues I was having 
with my other sunnies - in particular the Warby Parker. The Oakleys 
eliminate the problems of: 1. Pushing the glasses back up 89 thousand times 
per day and 2. Dealing with sun coming down through the top of the glasses. 
They are optically correct, unlike the shooting glasses I first tried 
(scary) and they’re lightweight. Also, the Roadies wonder if I might be a 
similar species to them, and deep down I seek the acceptance of the Roadie 
.   

The first photo shows me in Lone Wolf Leah mode (dang it - where are my 
cooling UPV arm sleeves?!?) with a pair of Oakley Radarlocks. Joe Bernard 
dug those out of the a drawer somewhere and sent them to me, as they never 
fit him and had been languishing, unused, for years. And I love them. His 
cast-offs are my treasure - surely that’s a Lone Wolf trait? Gosh, it could 
be the Urban Cyclist, too...must review the velotaxonomy.

Anyway, those glasses were so good that I wanted a pair to wear off the 
bike. The Radarlocks are just a little too rad to wear as lifestyle shades. 
But, there are Oakley sales going on all over the internet, and I was able 
to get these Oakley PRIZM Rose Gold polarized pair at a deep discount (I 
think the model is Flak). They are still a little on the edge but more 
passable as lifestyle glasses, though you may certainly disagree. See 2nd 
photo. The PRIZM technology is really cool - it makes objects sharper and 
is geared toward the activity you are doing (mountain biking, road cycling, 
golfing, fishing, field games). I chose the PRIZM polarized, which are for 
everyday and take out the glare. But I would like to someday have the red 
lenses that are the PRIZM road or the PRIZM  field. Those things are worth 
knowing about if any of you go Oakley shopping after you read this.  

It feels good to have that solved. I have not taken any bugs to the eye 
since, have excellent sun protection, and I’ve changed up my look a bit.

Lone Wolf Leah

Ex Bicycle Belle
Lover of Clementines

On Tuesday, June 2, 2020 at 2:41:03 PM UTC-7, Doug Hansford wrote:
>
> Leah,
> I could use a good laugh so post your photo! Just kidding, form follows 
> function should be the rule for sunglasses.
> Doug
>
> On Tuesday, June 2, 2020 at 4:23:42 PM UTC-4, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi guys, 
>>
>> I had already impulse purchased the clear glasses when I wrote this post. 
>> I had tried my shooting glasses but they didn’t seat well under my helmet, 
>> bounced up and down and they weren’t optically correct, so it made things 
>> worse and I tossed them in my bag after minutes of wearing them and went 
>> bare-faced instead. As soon as I got home I went to Oakley’s website and 
>> ordered a pair of Radar Pitch glasses with clear lenses. I knew they would 
>> play well with my helmet (so many cyclists wear them), they were 20% off 
>> and I was just so completely fed up with not having night glasses that I 
>> plunked down the money. 
>>
>> But then that brought me to sunglasses. Once I read sunglasses reviews 
>> and saw that people were saying things like: 
>> ~I don’t have wind making my eyes tear anymore 
>>
>> ~I don’t have sun coming in through the top of my glasses 
>>
>> ~I can see images crisply on the road [Oakley’s Prism technology] 
>>
>> ~My peripheral vision is so much better with the wraparound 
>>
>> ~My glasses don’t bounce around on my runs anymore, they stay put 
>>
>> Well, THAT was when I realized I have all those same issues with 
>> lifestyle sunglasses. And I live in the desert with like 300 days of sun, 
>> and there isn’t a day that goes by that I am not outside exercising in it. 
>> Running, biking, swimming, walking. I was accustomed to the above 
>> annoyances, but now I don’t have to be. I’m going to look a *little* rad, 
>> not a lot rad, and that seems like a fair trade-off. I did buy a pair of 
>> sunglasses that were really on sale and if you behave yourselves and 
>> refrain from laughing and pointing, I might just show them to you. 藍 
>>
>> Lone Wolf Leah
>
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[RBW] Re: Sunglasses

[Doug Hansford]

Leah,
I could use a good laugh so post your photo! Just kidding, form follows 
function should be the rule for sunglasses.
Doug

On Tuesday, June 2, 2020 at 4:23:42 PM UTC-4, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:
>
> Hi guys, 
>
> I had already impulse purchased the clear glasses when I wrote this post. 
> I had tried my shooting glasses but they didn’t seat well under my helmet, 
> bounced up and down and they weren’t optically correct, so it made things 
> worse and I tossed them in my bag after minutes of wearing them and went 
> bare-faced instead. As soon as I got home I went to Oakley’s website and 
> ordered a pair of Radar Pitch glasses with clear lenses. I knew they would 
> play well with my helmet (so many cyclists wear them), they were 20% off 
> and I was just so completely fed up with not having night glasses that I 
> plunked down the money. 
>
> But then that brought me to sunglasses. Once I read sunglasses reviews and 
> saw that people were saying things like: 
> ~I don’t have wind making my eyes tear anymore 
>
> ~I don’t have sun coming in through the top of my glasses 
>
> ~I can see images crisply on the road [Oakley’s Prism technology] 
>
> ~My peripheral vision is so much better with the wraparound 
>
> ~My glasses don’t bounce around on my runs anymore, they stay put 
>
> Well, THAT was when I realized I have all those same issues with lifestyle 
> sunglasses. And I live in the desert with like 300 days of sun, and there 
> isn’t a day that goes by that I am not outside exercising in it. Running, 
> biking, swimming, walking. I was accustomed to the above annoyances, but 
> now I don’t have to be. I’m going to look a *little* rad, not a lot rad, 
> and that seems like a fair trade-off. I did buy a pair of sunglasses that 
> were really on sale and if you behave yourselves and refrain from laughing 
> and pointing, I might just show them to you. 藍 
>
> Lone Wolf Leah

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[RBW] Re: Sunglasses

[Ian Terry]

I've been riding in a pair of Keyholes by Kent Wang. $60, polarized, and 
very nice looking IMO. 

On Sunday, May 31, 2020 at 5:26:58 PM UTC-4, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:
>
> I’ll get to the sunglasses part, but first just let me say all the words I 
> need to get out.
>
> Lately I’ve been shuffling over the practical side. I would love to have 
> beauty and utility both present, but sometimes it doesn’t work out. The 
> summer months have come to Vegas and as I have greatly increased my miles 
> in 2020 (in May alone I rode 310.4 miles!), I have had to make some changes 
> to withstand the sun. I’m not riding in Lycra, but I do have synthetic, 
> white arm sleeves that keep you cool, covered, and shielded from the sun. 
> I’ve taken to wetting and tying a bandana around my neck and wearing riding 
> gloves on my hands. I apply a nasty white mineral sunscreen at times, but I 
> never leave without sunglasses. 
>
> A few days ago I went out for an evening ride. It was dark enough that I 
> took off my sunglasses and was soon after hit in the eyes several times by 
> bugs. That was annoying but workable until the final one, which managed to 
> get IN my eye and then repeatedly bite or sting. Oh my gosh, the pain. I 
> pulled over but I was using the stripped down Clem H (my Clementine is in 
> the shop getting dyno lighting, another thing I needed with all this extra 
> riding) and it has no mirror. The bathrooms at the park were locked, so I 
> had nothing but my phone camera to use and try and fish this bug - which 
> was still ferociously stinging me - out of my eye. It must have died 
> because the pain stopped, but I never did find the bug carcass. 濫 I was 
> pretty sure all that biting/stinging was going to leave me with swelling. 
> Was I going to have to ride home after dark, up the mountain with one eye 
> swollen shut? (Spoiler alert: I made it home with 2 good eyes.) 
>
> Well that was when I decided I wanted clear riding glasses for night. I 
> ordered Tifosi from Amazon but was really disappointed. They slid down and 
> didn’t offer good eye coverage. I ended up on Oakley’s site, which I was 
> hoping to avoid for 2 reasons: 
>
> 1. $$$ 2. I’m not rad. 
>
> It’s really hard to find fit info and product reviews, but I finally 
> settled on creating a custom pair so I could tone down the rad. There’s a 
> sale going on right now, so while it’s not cheap, it’s not outrageous, 
> either. They’re Radar EV Pitch, I think, and might still be a little too 
> rad - but who’s going to see me? Well, now I’m going to have great eye 
> protection at night, but what about sunglasses for daytime? I have 2 pairs, 
> and while I think they’re fetching, they aren’t providing great coverage - 
> esp. the Warby Parkers. The sun comes down into my eyes from the top of the 
> glasses, and I don’t want to put up with it anymore. At least not on my 
> bike. 
>
> *I want to know: What do you all like to use for sunglasses while riding? 
> I want good coverage, but I don’t want to look like a cyborg, either. *
>
> Lastly, I feel like I am morphing from something that once resembled 
> Practical Cycle Chic into what The Bike Snob would call The Lone Wolf. 
> Picture the polka dot helmet, white arms sleeves, Keen sandals, neck 
> bandanna and Oakleys - it’s not lookin’ good, it’s lookin’ Lone Wolf-y. 
>
> *Should I just embrace it and get wild Oakley’s for the sun? Or do you 
> have a more reasonable suggestion? Is there a gold standard for cycling 
> sunglasses? I have 20/10 vision, they tell me, so prescription is not a 
> factor here. *
>
> Attached is the night glasses I am having made. It’s going to be a couple 
> weeks before I get them. Go ahead and laugh. I am.
>
> Thanks!
> Leah
>

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[RBW] Re: Sunglasses

[Joe Bernard]

"That said, I still use and prefer photochromatic lenses because I just don't 
like dark lenses on a cloudy day. Too gloomy for me, makes me want to turn 
around and go home :  )

Best cloudy day lens is yellow. Totally turn a gloomy cloudy day into a bright 
sunny one. Extend your riding time for at least another 20 or 30 miles. But if 
sun does come out, you're screwed as the yellow lens intensifies the light. 
Just can't win these days."

That's one thing I like about the Prizm lens on my Oakley EV Zero: it has a 
fascinating ability to separate light from shade, and seems to "brighten" the 
scene as the clouds roll in. It has to be pretty dang gloomy outside before I 
have to take them off. 

I have the Prizm on an Oakley Crossrange I use off the bike which has a much 
lighter lens marketed to golfers. It's possibly too much light transmission for 
cycling on a very bright day, but great for everything else. In the end there's 
a whole lotta lenses out there with different light transmission qualities and 
you have to find what works best for you for your conditions.  

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[RBW] Re: Sunglasses

[masmojo]

Leah, first of all, I think your rad, but I understand your desire not to look 
too techie.

Beyond that, it seems we are talking 2 different things here?
1) sunglasses
2) clear bug shields 

To me it's all a very personal aesthetic, but although I have some Oakley's I 
don't wear them much. The Oakley's I had last have some sort of fancy coating,  
 (irridium?) which look great, but seem to scratch VERY easily. I just didn't 
feel they were worth the $$'s
There's typically some inexpensive new brands that pop up on ebay. I bought 
some Rudy Project shortly after that brand first appeared, now they cost a lot!
Trick with buying sunglasses on ebay is don't look solely at price. You don't 
have to spend $100, but less than $20 is equally bad.
A brand that you can sometimes get inexpensively that I like is Dragons. A 
couple others that are almost as good. RAZE and Electric (they may spell that 
some clever way). I've been wearing my RAZE almost exclusively lately; In fact 
I am on my second pair! First pair popped out of my handlebar bag & I was 
bothered enough to by the same exact thing again. 
Which leads me to the main point. The perfect cycling sunglasses are decent 
quality,  but not so precious your going to have a meltdown if they get lost, 
broken or stolen.

As far as clear bug shields go, I've never really cottoned to them for 
different reasons glare, condensation,  ineffective perspiration evacuation, 
etc.
That said you could probably ride over to Lowe's or Home Depot & look at 
they're safety glasses, possibly try them on get an idea if it'll work for you.

In my younger days I had to ride to/from work at night through some fields and 
I can tell you; although it makes a lot of sense to wear white at night for 
visibility, it makes you a giant target for bugs! Especially when the 
headlights of the oncoming cars hit you; certain times of the year it's like 
flipping a switch.
As soon as the headlights land on you so to do the bugs!

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[RBW] Re: Sunglasses

['Dave Small' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Hi Leah,

I suggest starting with these:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000RKS07I/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8=1

I have Tifosi clear but I like these better and use them instead.  If you 
don't like these you're out a whopping $8.25, although you're not really 
*out* anything 'cause you can keep 'em around for hazardous household 
tasks, like chopping jalapeños or fiddling with tiny springs that could 
blind you if they fly free.  You might like Premium Brand glasses just 
fine, but why not give a pair of cheap ones a try before you step up to the 
overpriced models?

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[RBW] Re: Sunglasses

[Clark Fitzgerald]

I like Goodr glasses for cycling. 

On Sunday, May 31, 2020 at 4:22:41 PM UTC-7, allenmichael wrote:
>
> https://goodr.com/products/jorts-for-your-face 
> 
>  
>
> I use these (tinted) while running and they look pretty good, don’t slip, 
> and don’t cost . Might be worth a try. 

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[RBW] Re: Sunglasses

[Jock Dewey]

I'm biased, as longtime TIFOSI account manager...but the only way to find 
glasses that fit properly is to try them on one-by-one. Without standing 
before a display, actually fitting a frame before purchase is not the best 
way to go.

All makers very likely have some frame that will fit your face and many 
other styles that won't. To recommend one brand over another without 
fitting is basically meaningless.

BEST / Jock Dewey / Athens, GA

On Sunday, May 31, 2020 at 5:26:58 PM UTC-4, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:
>
> I’ll get to the sunglasses part, but first just let me say all the words I 
> need to get out.
>
> Lately I’ve been shuffling over the practical side. I would love to have 
> beauty and utility both present, but sometimes it doesn’t work out. The 
> summer months have come to Vegas and as I have greatly increased my miles 
> in 2020 (in May alone I rode 310.4 miles!), I have had to make some changes 
> to withstand the sun. I’m not riding in Lycra, but I do have synthetic, 
> white arm sleeves that keep you cool, covered, and shielded from the sun. 
> I’ve taken to wetting and tying a bandana around my neck and wearing riding 
> gloves on my hands. I apply a nasty white mineral sunscreen at times, but I 
> never leave without sunglasses. 
>
> A few days ago I went out for an evening ride. It was dark enough that I 
> took off my sunglasses and was soon after hit in the eyes several times by 
> bugs. That was annoying but workable until the final one, which managed to 
> get IN my eye and then repeatedly bite or sting. Oh my gosh, the pain. I 
> pulled over but I was using the stripped down Clem H (my Clementine is in 
> the shop getting dyno lighting, another thing I needed with all this extra 
> riding) and it has no mirror. The bathrooms at the park were locked, so I 
> had nothing but my phone camera to use and try and fish this bug - which 
> was still ferociously stinging me - out of my eye. It must have died 
> because the pain stopped, but I never did find the bug carcass. 濫 I was 
> pretty sure all that biting/stinging was going to leave me with swelling. 
> Was I going to have to ride home after dark, up the mountain with one eye 
> swollen shut? (Spoiler alert: I made it home with 2 good eyes.) 
>
> Well that was when I decided I wanted clear riding glasses for night. I 
> ordered Tifosi from Amazon but was really disappointed. They slid down and 
> didn’t offer good eye coverage. I ended up on Oakley’s site, which I was 
> hoping to avoid for 2 reasons: 
>
> 1. $$$ 2. I’m not rad. 
>
> It’s really hard to find fit info and product reviews, but I finally 
> settled on creating a custom pair so I could tone down the rad. There’s a 
> sale going on right now, so while it’s not cheap, it’s not outrageous, 
> either. They’re Radar EV Pitch, I think, and might still be a little too 
> rad - but who’s going to see me? Well, now I’m going to have great eye 
> protection at night, but what about sunglasses for daytime? I have 2 pairs, 
> and while I think they’re fetching, they aren’t providing great coverage - 
> esp. the Warby Parkers. The sun comes down into my eyes from the top of the 
> glasses, and I don’t want to put up with it anymore. At least not on my 
> bike. 
>
> *I want to know: What do you all like to use for sunglasses while riding? 
> I want good coverage, but I don’t want to look like a cyborg, either. *
>
> Lastly, I feel like I am morphing from something that once resembled 
> Practical Cycle Chic into what The Bike Snob would call The Lone Wolf. 
> Picture the polka dot helmet, white arms sleeves, Keen sandals, neck 
> bandanna and Oakleys - it’s not lookin’ good, it’s lookin’ Lone Wolf-y. 
>
> *Should I just embrace it and get wild Oakley’s for the sun? Or do you 
> have a more reasonable suggestion? Is there a gold standard for cycling 
> sunglasses? I have 20/10 vision, they tell me, so prescription is not a 
> factor here. *
>
> Attached is the night glasses I am having made. It’s going to be a couple 
> weeks before I get them. Go ahead and laugh. I am.
>
> Thanks!
> Leah
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Sunglasses

[Paul Clifton]

I got a rad full suspension bike in Feb, which also happens to be the first 
bike I've ever ridden that has disc brakes. I took it out to some downhill 
trails for it's second ride, and was probably being too enthusiastic 
because of how amazing my new bike felt, so I was going fast and taking 
some risks. There was a little short steep hill that I probably should have 
dropped off, but instead I rolled it, and I think I just squeezed the front 
brake suddenly when the front suspension squished at the bottom of the 
hill, but it's also possible my slightly too big front tire grabbed the top 
of the suspension fork and locked up. I don't really know, for sure but the 
evidence indicates that I hit the ground with my face. I got some scrapes 
and bruises all over my body. The worst was a bone bruise on the heel of my 
hand. I was fine enough to ride three or four more laps, until I banged my 
hand again and had to call it a day. I learned that I need to practice 
getting rad before I can actually be rad. I'll buy a full face helmet, 
padded gloves, and some proper glasses/goggles, but I'm very happy that my 
cop glasses to the hit and not my eyes. I've been really happy riding 
around in various normal sunglasses, but I know now that sometimes 
appropriate equipment is worth the price and weird-lookingness.

Paul

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>
> Paul, what happened???
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On May 31, 2020, at 9:02 PM, Paul Clifton  > wrote:
>
> 
> I think my riding glasses belong here - some aluminum aviators, still 
> rocking months after an unpleasant endover. they're a little less 
> comfortable now though.
> 
> Paul
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[RBW] Re: Sunglasses

[Joe Bernard]

About brands in general, my fandom for Oakleys is well known here and not a 
recommendation that anyone buy the brand I like..I mean, why would I care about 
that?? The point is the technology of cycling-specific sunglasses (or clear) 
and why they can be a WAY better option than casual glasses on the bike. 
Various brim and hat options are viable, too. 

Buy what you like, all that matters is that it works and you can see and no 
bugs stab you in the eye. 

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[RBW] Re: Sunglasses

['Tom M' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I wear Oakley's with transition lenses and a progressive prescription. 
Great eye coverage, and they get really dark. It took me a few rides to get 
used to the distortion at the very edges, but now I don't notice it. I 
always wear a cycling cap under my helmet, regardless of how hot it is, 
because the helmet is more comfortable for me that way. I have light caps 
for summer and wool ones for winter. Best of luck in your search.
Tom Milani
Alexandria, VA

On Monday, June 1, 2020 at 8:20:09 AM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> You know Garth, several people discussed the issue of light over the 
> glasses and I responded to that topic. You may notice if you look really 
> closely that this is a thread on a cycling forum that the public can see, 
> and several folks are discussing it. 

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[RBW] Re: Sunglasses

[Joe Bernard]

You know Garth, several people discussed the issue of light over the glasses 
and I responded to that topic. You may notice if you look really closely that 
this is a thread on a cycling forum that the public can see, and several folks 
are discussing it. 

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[RBW] Re: Sunglasses

[Garth]

You know Joe, this post is made by Leah and I replied to her, so while I 
get your enthusiasm to answer for her, Leah is supposed to answer for Leah 
!  


On Monday, June 1, 2020 at 4:46:22 AM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> "Light in over the top" 
>
> The problem - even with a Nutcase with brim like Leah has - is casual 
> shades sit too far from the face and let light (and wind) in from the top 
> and sides. On an upright bike like her Clementine the brim isn't going to 
> be enough to cover that gap. Which is where shades like those Radars come 
> in, they should () fit close to the brow and wrap around the sides enough 
> to solve the sunlight problem while giving a clear field of vision. Which 
> is why cycling shades are a thing! 

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[RBW] Re: Sunglasses

[Garth]

I see ... So your helmet already has a visor.. alright I get that. There 
are other brands that have longer ones.  Frankly, I'm not a fan of Oakley 
at all. There are so many other brands out there that wrap around the eyes 
and face, even without being a shield type. I wore some $50 Bolle close 
fitting polarized brown lens glasses for years before which still to this 
day I've not found a better lens on. I tried the best Smith and Oakley has, 
for example and none have been as crisp and clear as those Bolle.  Bolle 
frames have always been perfectly formed, every pair of Oakley I have tried 
have fit crooked and on a flat table you see why. Not what I expect for the 
$$$.  The Oakley brand to me is but a cliche' of overpriced inferior 
products that's akin to "sell the sizzle, keep the steak". The customer 
buys the sizzle but never gets the steak . 


In regard to brims, you may be able to wear like a running visor under your 
helmet, it just depends on the specific visor and it's shape, like flat 
brims rather than curved. I wear a Patagonia Duckbill visor over a skull 
cap thingy but I've not tired it with a helmet. 

Anyways  thanks for listening .. I'm out

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[RBW] Re: Sunglasses

[Steve Cole]

All, here's the add-on brim I mentioned in my earlier reply to Leah.  It 
also can be found with a "neck shade" for especially hot, sunny locations. 
 It's often described as a "hard hat add-on brim."

[image: Cycling Classic Brim]

On Sunday, May 31, 2020 at 5:26:58 PM UTC-4, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:
>
> I’ll get to the sunglasses part, but first just let me say all the words I 
> need to get out.
>
> Lately I’ve been shuffling over the practical side. I would love to have 
> beauty and utility both present, but sometimes it doesn’t work out. The 
> summer months have come to Vegas and as I have greatly increased my miles 
> in 2020 (in May alone I rode 310.4 miles!), I have had to make some changes 
> to withstand the sun. I’m not riding in Lycra, but I do have synthetic, 
> white arm sleeves that keep you cool, covered, and shielded from the sun. 
> I’ve taken to wetting and tying a bandana around my neck and wearing riding 
> gloves on my hands. I apply a nasty white mineral sunscreen at times, but I 
> never leave without sunglasses. 
>
> A few days ago I went out for an evening ride. It was dark enough that I 
> took off my sunglasses and was soon after hit in the eyes several times by 
> bugs. That was annoying but workable until the final one, which managed to 
> get IN my eye and then repeatedly bite or sting. Oh my gosh, the pain. I 
> pulled over but I was using the stripped down Clem H (my Clementine is in 
> the shop getting dyno lighting, another thing I needed with all this extra 
> riding) and it has no mirror. The bathrooms at the park were locked, so I 
> had nothing but my phone camera to use and try and fish this bug - which 
> was still ferociously stinging me - out of my eye. It must have died 
> because the pain stopped, but I never did find the bug carcass. 濫 I was 
> pretty sure all that biting/stinging was going to leave me with swelling. 
> Was I going to have to ride home after dark, up the mountain with one eye 
> swollen shut? (Spoiler alert: I made it home with 2 good eyes.) 
>
> Well that was when I decided I wanted clear riding glasses for night. I 
> ordered Tifosi from Amazon but was really disappointed. They slid down and 
> didn’t offer good eye coverage. I ended up on Oakley’s site, which I was 
> hoping to avoid for 2 reasons: 
>
> 1. $$$ 2. I’m not rad. 
>
> It’s really hard to find fit info and product reviews, but I finally 
> settled on creating a custom pair so I could tone down the rad. There’s a 
> sale going on right now, so while it’s not cheap, it’s not outrageous, 
> either. They’re Radar EV Pitch, I think, and might still be a little too 
> rad - but who’s going to see me? Well, now I’m going to have great eye 
> protection at night, but what about sunglasses for daytime? I have 2 pairs, 
> and while I think they’re fetching, they aren’t providing great coverage - 
> esp. the Warby Parkers. The sun comes down into my eyes from the top of the 
> glasses, and I don’t want to put up with it anymore. At least not on my 
> bike. 
>
> *I want to know: What do you all like to use for sunglasses while riding? 
> I want good coverage, but I don’t want to look like a cyborg, either. *
>
> Lastly, I feel like I am morphing from something that once resembled 
> Practical Cycle Chic into what The Bike Snob would call The Lone Wolf. 
> Picture the polka dot helmet, white arms sleeves, Keen sandals, neck 
> bandanna and Oakleys - it’s not lookin’ good, it’s lookin’ Lone Wolf-y. 
>
> *Should I just embrace it and get wild Oakley’s for the sun? Or do you 
> have a more reasonable suggestion? Is there a gold standard for cycling 
> sunglasses? I have 20/10 vision, they tell me, so prescription is not a 
> factor here. *
>
> Attached is the night glasses I am having made. It’s going to be a couple 
> weeks before I get them. Go ahead and laugh. I am.
>
> Thanks!
> Leah
>

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[RBW] Re: Sunglasses

[Joe Bernard]

"Light in over the top"

The problem - even with a Nutcase with brim like Leah has - is casual shades 
sit too far from the face and let light (and wind) in from the top and sides. 
On an upright bike like her Clementine the brim isn't going to be enough to 
cover that gap. Which is where shades like those Radars come in, they should 
() fit close to the brow and wrap around the sides enough to solve the 
sunlight problem while giving a clear field of vision. Which is why cycling 
shades are a thing! 

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[RBW] Re: Sunglasses

[Garth]

Hey Leah, they do make Helmets with removable visors you know ?  Is your 
helmet a Nutcase brand ?  They also make visors you can add on to certain 
existing models. Nutcase for example has a bunch of stuff :

https://nutcasehelmets.com/collections/street

https://nutcasehelmets.com/collections/street/products/feathered-friends-unframed-street-helmet?variant=19249753260086

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Re: [RBW] Re: Sunglasses

[Leah Peterson]

Paul, what happened???

Sent from my iPad

> On May 31, 2020, at 9:02 PM, Paul Clifton  wrote:
> 
> 
> I think my riding glasses belong here - some aluminum aviators, still rocking 
> months after an unpleasant endover. they're a little less comfortable now 
> though.
> 
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[RBW] Re: Sunglasses

[Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!]

Steve Cole, I’m surprised no one has had our same complaint as well. But I 
think it might be one of those things you always struggle with but never 
actually realize can be improved. Or maybe it’s something one dismisses because 
one is accustomed to putting up with it.

Either way, I’m pretty sure the shape of the Radar Oakleys can eliminate this 
problem. I know what you mean about the helmet brim - my Nutcase helmet has 
this and it’s a real help.

Patrick Moore - I wouldn’t want to wear a hat under my helmet - too hot.

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[RBW] Re: Sunglasses

[Steve Cole]

Leah,

I was struck by your description that, "The sun comes down into my eyes 
from the top of the glasses, and I don’t want to put up with it anymore. At 
least not on my bike." I'm surprised that no one has commented on this.

I've worn glasses now for half my life.  When I wear only my clear 
prescription glasses, I am not bothered by the sun shining "over" the top 
of my glasses.  When I switch to sunglasses, however, for reasons I cannot 
understand, the sun coming over the top of my glasses bothers me 
tremendously.  I have taken to wearing hats, mostly baseball hats when I am 
out walking around or doing whatever.

When I ride, I find that I cannot wear "road-style" helmets; this style 
helmet does not shade by face so the sun simply shines over the top of my 
sunglasses.  So, I've taken to using mountain bike-style helmets, even when 
road riding.  The extra plastic brim makes all the difference for me, 
providing just the right amount of shade on the upper part of my face to 
eliminate the problem of sun over the top of my glasses.  One other note: I 
spend part of the year in Southern Arizona.  When riding there in the 
cooler, but still very sunny months, I have seen other riders who use some 
kind of almost hat-like brim that attaches to a bike helmet providing good 
protection for both face and neck, which can be essential in Arizona.

Anyway, good luck on your effort to solve this issue.

Steve Cole
Arlington, VA




On Sunday, May 31, 2020 at 5:26:58 PM UTC-4, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:
>
> I’ll get to the sunglasses part, but first just let me say all the words I 
> need to get out.
>
> Lately I’ve been shuffling over the practical side. I would love to have 
> beauty and utility both present, but sometimes it doesn’t work out. The 
> summer months have come to Vegas and as I have greatly increased my miles 
> in 2020 (in May alone I rode 310.4 miles!), I have had to make some changes 
> to withstand the sun. I’m not riding in Lycra, but I do have synthetic, 
> white arm sleeves that keep you cool, covered, and shielded from the sun. 
> I’ve taken to wetting and tying a bandana around my neck and wearing riding 
> gloves on my hands. I apply a nasty white mineral sunscreen at times, but I 
> never leave without sunglasses. 
>
> A few days ago I went out for an evening ride. It was dark enough that I 
> took off my sunglasses and was soon after hit in the eyes several times by 
> bugs. That was annoying but workable until the final one, which managed to 
> get IN my eye and then repeatedly bite or sting. Oh my gosh, the pain. I 
> pulled over but I was using the stripped down Clem H (my Clementine is in 
> the shop getting dyno lighting, another thing I needed with all this extra 
> riding) and it has no mirror. The bathrooms at the park were locked, so I 
> had nothing but my phone camera to use and try and fish this bug - which 
> was still ferociously stinging me - out of my eye. It must have died 
> because the pain stopped, but I never did find the bug carcass. 濫 I was 
> pretty sure all that biting/stinging was going to leave me with swelling. 
> Was I going to have to ride home after dark, up the mountain with one eye 
> swollen shut? (Spoiler alert: I made it home with 2 good eyes.) 
>
> Well that was when I decided I wanted clear riding glasses for night. I 
> ordered Tifosi from Amazon but was really disappointed. They slid down and 
> didn’t offer good eye coverage. I ended up on Oakley’s site, which I was 
> hoping to avoid for 2 reasons: 
>
> 1. $$$ 2. I’m not rad. 
>
> It’s really hard to find fit info and product reviews, but I finally 
> settled on creating a custom pair so I could tone down the rad. There’s a 
> sale going on right now, so while it’s not cheap, it’s not outrageous, 
> either. They’re Radar EV Pitch, I think, and might still be a little too 
> rad - but who’s going to see me? Well, now I’m going to have great eye 
> protection at night, but what about sunglasses for daytime? I have 2 pairs, 
> and while I think they’re fetching, they aren’t providing great coverage - 
> esp. the Warby Parkers. The sun comes down into my eyes from the top of the 
> glasses, and I don’t want to put up with it anymore. At least not on my 
> bike. 
>
> *I want to know: What do you all like to use for sunglasses while riding? 
> I want good coverage, but I don’t want to look like a cyborg, either. *
>
> Lastly, I feel like I am morphing from something that once resembled 
> Practical Cycle Chic into what The Bike Snob would call The Lone Wolf. 
> Picture the polka dot helmet, white arms sleeves, Keen sandals, neck 
> bandanna and Oakleys - it’s not lookin’ good, it’s lookin’ Lone Wolf-y. 
>
> *Should I just embrace it and get wild Oakley’s for the sun? Or do you 
> have a more reasonable suggestion? Is there a gold standard for cycling 
> sunglasses? I have 20/10 vision, they tell me, so prescription is not a 
> factor here. *
>
> Attached is the night glasses I am having 

[RBW] Re: Sunglasses

[Garth]

  

All I can say is get these and you will be happy. The come in different 
combos. Myself have the one with the light rust colored lens and it's the 
only one I've worn, I like it so much. Even in full sun. No everything 
doesn't look orange, it's very light and it enhances greens and browns and 
such. Very nice on cloudy dayze too. The clear is for night obviously. I 
hate gray lens tints(blah looking) so I never use that nor did I buy it for 
that.  

Built super well. The nose is adjustable and replaceable. The lenses are 
replaceable too, and inexpensive ($24). The temples are adjustable too. 
Comes with a hard case on the multi-lens options. They meet military spec 
for impact resistance to things like high impact bugs, thugs and bullets. 
You know, the usual foes on a bike !  

I bought these after trying so may pairs and not liking any of them, Oakley 
also. Then I tried these as a hail-Mary sorta thing, why not ... all the 
rest were blah so what's one more ?!  Hah  I was shocked how sturdy 
these are, how well they fit and the light rust lens was just what I 
wanted. I don't like or need "dark" lenses, it seems everyone makes them 
overly dark. Not these , at least the rust or vermillion lenses, they're 
about 53% VLT. 

https://wileyx.com/saber-advanced-sunglasses-308

Also sold many other places. 




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[RBW] Re: Sunglasses

[George Schick]

Interesting timing on this post.  I'm in my early 70's and I have found 
that, as one ages, things shrink (please no smart remarks).  Therefore, 
one's eyeball shrinks a bit in diameter as well and I have discovered that 
my far sighted vision has improved to the point where I can see just about 
as well with and without correctional optics.  So...I've been in the market 
for good general purpose riding glasses as well.  I'll monitor this thread 
to see the various suggestions.


On Sunday, May 31, 2020 at 4:26:58 PM UTC-5, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:
>
> I’ll get to the sunglasses part, but first just let me say all the words I 
> need to get out.
>
> Lately I’ve been shuffling over the practical side. I would love to have 
> beauty and utility both present, but sometimes it doesn’t work out. The 
> summer months have come to Vegas and as I have greatly increased my miles 
> in 2020 (in May alone I rode 310.4 miles!), I have had to make some changes 
> to withstand the sun. I’m not riding in Lycra, but I do have synthetic, 
> white arm sleeves that keep you cool, covered, and shielded from the sun. 
> I’ve taken to wetting and tying a bandana around my neck and wearing riding 
> gloves on my hands. I apply a nasty white mineral sunscreen at times, but I 
> never leave without sunglasses. 
>
> A few days ago I went out for an evening ride. It was dark enough that I 
> took off my sunglasses and was soon after hit in the eyes several times by 
> bugs. That was annoying but workable until the final one, which managed to 
> get IN my eye and then repeatedly bite or sting. Oh my gosh, the pain. I 
> pulled over but I was using the stripped down Clem H (my Clementine is in 
> the shop getting dyno lighting, another thing I needed with all this extra 
> riding) and it has no mirror. The bathrooms at the park were locked, so I 
> had nothing but my phone camera to use and try and fish this bug - which 
> was still ferociously stinging me - out of my eye. It must have died 
> because the pain stopped, but I never did find the bug carcass. 濫 I was 
> pretty sure all that biting/stinging was going to leave me with swelling. 
> Was I going to have to ride home after dark, up the mountain with one eye 
> swollen shut? (Spoiler alert: I made it home with 2 good eyes.) 
>
> Well that was when I decided I wanted clear riding glasses for night. I 
> ordered Tifosi from Amazon but was really disappointed. They slid down and 
> didn’t offer good eye coverage. I ended up on Oakley’s site, which I was 
> hoping to avoid for 2 reasons: 
>
> 1. $$$ 2. I’m not rad. 
>
> It’s really hard to find fit info and product reviews, but I finally 
> settled on creating a custom pair so I could tone down the rad. There’s a 
> sale going on right now, so while it’s not cheap, it’s not outrageous, 
> either. They’re Radar EV Pitch, I think, and might still be a little too 
> rad - but who’s going to see me? Well, now I’m going to have great eye 
> protection at night, but what about sunglasses for daytime? I have 2 pairs, 
> and while I think they’re fetching, they aren’t providing great coverage - 
> esp. the Warby Parkers. The sun comes down into my eyes from the top of the 
> glasses, and I don’t want to put up with it anymore. At least not on my 
> bike. 
>
> *I want to know: What do you all like to use for sunglasses while riding? 
> I want good coverage, but I don’t want to look like a cyborg, either. *
>
> Lastly, I feel like I am morphing from something that once resembled 
> Practical Cycle Chic into what The Bike Snob would call The Lone Wolf. 
> Picture the polka dot helmet, white arms sleeves, Keen sandals, neck 
> bandanna and Oakleys - it’s not lookin’ good, it’s lookin’ Lone Wolf-y. 
>
> *Should I just embrace it and get wild Oakley’s for the sun? Or do you 
> have a more reasonable suggestion? Is there a gold standard for cycling 
> sunglasses? I have 20/10 vision, they tell me, so prescription is not a 
> factor here. *
>
> Attached is the night glasses I am having made. It’s going to be a couple 
> weeks before I get them. Go ahead and laugh. I am.
>
> Thanks!
> Leah
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Sunglasses

[Leah Peterson]

A little extra hilarity. My husband thinks I should go full Lone Wolf and order 
these 藍藍藍. Ok, back to your good and serious suggestions. I couldn’t help it...


Sent from my iPad

> On May 31, 2020, at 2:51 PM, Doug Hansford  wrote:
> 
> 
> I've never had a pair of Oakley glasses that weren't good. Oakley, to me, is 
> worth the extra money. I posted a similar question here in the past couple 
> months and my man Joe Bernard hooked me up with THREE pair of Oakley. I gave 
> two of them to my sons and kept the EV Zero. They have good coverage, are 
> light weight, and the lens works great in all levels of light, except for 
> darkness. I plan to get a pair of clear lens glasses soon. I'm glad your eye 
> is okay Leah, sounds really painful.
> Doug
> 
>> On Sunday, May 31, 2020 at 5:45:35 PM UTC-4, Glen wrote:
>> Check out Smith glasses with interchangable lenses. Also, I have always 
>> found yellow lenses better for low light conditions than clear since they 
>> seem to increase contrast.
>> 
>> Steep and Cheap has Smiths on sale quite often (just about always) and 
>> Smiths' warrantee and customer service is amazing.
>> 
>>> On Sunday, May 31, 2020 at 3:26:58 PM UTC-6, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:
>>> I’ll get to the sunglasses part, but first just let me say all the words I 
>>> need to get out.
>>> 
>>> Lately I’ve been shuffling over the practical side. I would love to have 
>>> beauty and utility both present, but sometimes it doesn’t work out. The 
>>> summer months have come to Vegas and as I have greatly increased my miles 
>>> in 2020 (in May alone I rode 310.4 miles!), I have had to make some changes 
>>> to withstand the sun. I’m not riding in Lycra, but I do have synthetic, 
>>> white arm sleeves that keep you cool, covered, and shielded from the sun. 
>>> I’ve taken to wetting and tying a bandana around my neck and wearing riding 
>>> gloves on my hands. I apply a nasty white mineral sunscreen at times, but I 
>>> never leave without sunglasses. 
>>> 
>>> A few days ago I went out for an evening ride. It was dark enough that I 
>>> took off my sunglasses and was soon after hit in the eyes several times by 
>>> bugs. That was annoying but workable until the final one, which managed to 
>>> get IN my eye and then repeatedly bite or sting. Oh my gosh, the pain. I 
>>> pulled over but I was using the stripped down Clem H (my Clementine is in 
>>> the shop getting dyno lighting, another thing I needed with all this extra 
>>> riding) and it has no mirror. The bathrooms at the park were locked, so I 
>>> had nothing but my phone camera to use and try and fish this bug - which 
>>> was still ferociously stinging me - out of my eye. It must have died 
>>> because the pain stopped, but I never did find the bug carcass. 濫 I was 
>>> pretty sure all that biting/stinging was going to leave me with swelling. 
>>> Was I going to have to ride home after dark, up the mountain with one eye 
>>> swollen shut? (Spoiler alert: I made it home with 2 good eyes.) 
>>> 
>>> Well that was when I decided I wanted clear riding glasses for night. I 
>>> ordered Tifosi from Amazon but was really disappointed. They slid down and 
>>> didn’t offer good eye coverage. I ended up on Oakley’s site, which I was 
>>> hoping to avoid for 2 reasons: 
>>> 
>>> 1. $$$ 2. I’m not rad. 
>>> 
>>> It’s really hard to find fit info and product reviews, but I finally 
>>> settled on creating a custom pair so I could tone down the rad. There’s a 
>>> sale going on right now, so while it’s not cheap, it’s not outrageous, 
>>> either. They’re Radar EV Pitch, I think, and might still be a little too 
>>> rad - but who’s going to see me? Well, now I’m going to have great eye 
>>> protection at night, but what about sunglasses for daytime? I have 2 pairs, 
>>> and while I think they’re fetching, they aren’t providing great coverage - 
>>> esp. the Warby Parkers. The sun comes down into my eyes from the top of the 
>>> glasses, and I don’t want to put up with it anymore. At least not on my 
>>> bike. 
>>> 
>>> I want to know: What do you all like to use for sunglasses while riding? I 
>>> want good coverage, but I don’t want to look like a cyborg, either. 
>>> 
>>> Lastly, I feel like I am morphing from something that once resembled 
>>> Practical Cycle Chic into what The Bike Snob would call The Lone Wolf. 
>>> Picture the polka dot helmet, white arms sleeves, Keen sandals, neck 
>>> bandanna and Oakleys - it’s not lookin’ good, it’s lookin’ Lone Wolf-y. 
>>> 
>>> Should I just embrace it and get wild Oakley’s for the sun? Or do you have 
>>> a more reasonable suggestion? Is there a gold standard for cycling 
>>> sunglasses? I have 20/10 vision, they tell me, so prescription is not a 
>>> factor here. 
>>> 
>>> Attached is the night glasses I am having made. It’s going to be a couple 
>>> weeks before I get them. Go ahead and laugh. I am.
>>> 
>>> Thanks!
>>> Leah
> 
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[RBW] Re: Sunglasses

[Doug Hansford]

I've never had a pair of Oakley glasses that weren't good. Oakley, to me, 
is worth the extra money. I posted a similar question here in the past 
couple months and my man Joe Bernard hooked me up with THREE pair of 
Oakley. I gave two of them to my sons and kept the EV Zero. They have good 
coverage, are light weight, and the lens works great in all levels of 
light, except for darkness. I plan to get a pair of clear lens glasses 
soon. I'm glad your eye is okay Leah, sounds really painful.
Doug

On Sunday, May 31, 2020 at 5:45:35 PM UTC-4, Glen wrote:
>
> Check out Smith glasses with interchangable lenses. Also, I have always 
> found yellow lenses better for low light conditions than clear since they 
> seem to increase contrast.
>
> Steep and Cheap has Smiths on sale quite often (just about always) and 
> Smiths' warrantee and customer service is amazing.
>
> On Sunday, May 31, 2020 at 3:26:58 PM UTC-6, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>>
>> I’ll get to the sunglasses part, but first just let me say all the words 
>> I need to get out.
>>
>> Lately I’ve been shuffling over the practical side. I would love to have 
>> beauty and utility both present, but sometimes it doesn’t work out. The 
>> summer months have come to Vegas and as I have greatly increased my miles 
>> in 2020 (in May alone I rode 310.4 miles!), I have had to make some changes 
>> to withstand the sun. I’m not riding in Lycra, but I do have synthetic, 
>> white arm sleeves that keep you cool, covered, and shielded from the sun. 
>> I’ve taken to wetting and tying a bandana around my neck and wearing riding 
>> gloves on my hands. I apply a nasty white mineral sunscreen at times, but I 
>> never leave without sunglasses. 
>>
>> A few days ago I went out for an evening ride. It was dark enough that I 
>> took off my sunglasses and was soon after hit in the eyes several times by 
>> bugs. That was annoying but workable until the final one, which managed to 
>> get IN my eye and then repeatedly bite or sting. Oh my gosh, the pain. I 
>> pulled over but I was using the stripped down Clem H (my Clementine is in 
>> the shop getting dyno lighting, another thing I needed with all this extra 
>> riding) and it has no mirror. The bathrooms at the park were locked, so I 
>> had nothing but my phone camera to use and try and fish this bug - which 
>> was still ferociously stinging me - out of my eye. It must have died 
>> because the pain stopped, but I never did find the bug carcass. 濫 I was 
>> pretty sure all that biting/stinging was going to leave me with swelling. 
>> Was I going to have to ride home after dark, up the mountain with one eye 
>> swollen shut? (Spoiler alert: I made it home with 2 good eyes.) 
>>
>> Well that was when I decided I wanted clear riding glasses for night. I 
>> ordered Tifosi from Amazon but was really disappointed. They slid down and 
>> didn’t offer good eye coverage. I ended up on Oakley’s site, which I was 
>> hoping to avoid for 2 reasons: 
>>
>> 1. $$$ 2. I’m not rad. 
>>
>> It’s really hard to find fit info and product reviews, but I finally 
>> settled on creating a custom pair so I could tone down the rad. There’s a 
>> sale going on right now, so while it’s not cheap, it’s not outrageous, 
>> either. They’re Radar EV Pitch, I think, and might still be a little too 
>> rad - but who’s going to see me? Well, now I’m going to have great eye 
>> protection at night, but what about sunglasses for daytime? I have 2 pairs, 
>> and while I think they’re fetching, they aren’t providing great coverage - 
>> esp. the Warby Parkers. The sun comes down into my eyes from the top of the 
>> glasses, and I don’t want to put up with it anymore. At least not on my 
>> bike. 
>>
>> *I want to know: What do you all like to use for sunglasses while riding? 
>> I want good coverage, but I don’t want to look like a cyborg, either. *
>>
>> Lastly, I feel like I am morphing from something that once resembled 
>> Practical Cycle Chic into what The Bike Snob would call The Lone Wolf. 
>> Picture the polka dot helmet, white arms sleeves, Keen sandals, neck 
>> bandanna and Oakleys - it’s not lookin’ good, it’s lookin’ Lone Wolf-y. 
>>
>> *Should I just embrace it and get wild Oakley’s for the sun? Or do you 
>> have a more reasonable suggestion? Is there a gold standard for cycling 
>> sunglasses? I have 20/10 vision, they tell me, so prescription is not a 
>> factor here. *
>>
>> Attached is the night glasses I am having made. It’s going to be a couple 
>> weeks before I get them. Go ahead and laugh. I am.
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Leah
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Sunglasses

[Glen]

Check out Smith glasses with interchangable lenses. Also, I have always 
found yellow lenses better for low light conditions than clear since they 
seem to increase contrast.

Steep and Cheap has Smiths on sale quite often (just about always) and 
Smiths' warrantee and customer service is amazing.

On Sunday, May 31, 2020 at 3:26:58 PM UTC-6, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:
>
> I’ll get to the sunglasses part, but first just let me say all the words I 
> need to get out.
>
> Lately I’ve been shuffling over the practical side. I would love to have 
> beauty and utility both present, but sometimes it doesn’t work out. The 
> summer months have come to Vegas and as I have greatly increased my miles 
> in 2020 (in May alone I rode 310.4 miles!), I have had to make some changes 
> to withstand the sun. I’m not riding in Lycra, but I do have synthetic, 
> white arm sleeves that keep you cool, covered, and shielded from the sun. 
> I’ve taken to wetting and tying a bandana around my neck and wearing riding 
> gloves on my hands. I apply a nasty white mineral sunscreen at times, but I 
> never leave without sunglasses. 
>
> A few days ago I went out for an evening ride. It was dark enough that I 
> took off my sunglasses and was soon after hit in the eyes several times by 
> bugs. That was annoying but workable until the final one, which managed to 
> get IN my eye and then repeatedly bite or sting. Oh my gosh, the pain. I 
> pulled over but I was using the stripped down Clem H (my Clementine is in 
> the shop getting dyno lighting, another thing I needed with all this extra 
> riding) and it has no mirror. The bathrooms at the park were locked, so I 
> had nothing but my phone camera to use and try and fish this bug - which 
> was still ferociously stinging me - out of my eye. It must have died 
> because the pain stopped, but I never did find the bug carcass. 濫 I was 
> pretty sure all that biting/stinging was going to leave me with swelling. 
> Was I going to have to ride home after dark, up the mountain with one eye 
> swollen shut? (Spoiler alert: I made it home with 2 good eyes.) 
>
> Well that was when I decided I wanted clear riding glasses for night. I 
> ordered Tifosi from Amazon but was really disappointed. They slid down and 
> didn’t offer good eye coverage. I ended up on Oakley’s site, which I was 
> hoping to avoid for 2 reasons: 
>
> 1. $$$ 2. I’m not rad. 
>
> It’s really hard to find fit info and product reviews, but I finally 
> settled on creating a custom pair so I could tone down the rad. There’s a 
> sale going on right now, so while it’s not cheap, it’s not outrageous, 
> either. They’re Radar EV Pitch, I think, and might still be a little too 
> rad - but who’s going to see me? Well, now I’m going to have great eye 
> protection at night, but what about sunglasses for daytime? I have 2 pairs, 
> and while I think they’re fetching, they aren’t providing great coverage - 
> esp. the Warby Parkers. The sun comes down into my eyes from the top of the 
> glasses, and I don’t want to put up with it anymore. At least not on my 
> bike. 
>
> *I want to know: What do you all like to use for sunglasses while riding? 
> I want good coverage, but I don’t want to look like a cyborg, either. *
>
> Lastly, I feel like I am morphing from something that once resembled 
> Practical Cycle Chic into what The Bike Snob would call The Lone Wolf. 
> Picture the polka dot helmet, white arms sleeves, Keen sandals, neck 
> bandanna and Oakleys - it’s not lookin’ good, it’s lookin’ Lone Wolf-y. 
>
> *Should I just embrace it and get wild Oakley’s for the sun? Or do you 
> have a more reasonable suggestion? Is there a gold standard for cycling 
> sunglasses? I have 20/10 vision, they tell me, so prescription is not a 
> factor here. *
>
> Attached is the night glasses I am having made. It’s going to be a couple 
> weeks before I get them. Go ahead and laugh. I am.
>
> Thanks!
> Leah
>

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