Re: [RDA-L] Question on responsibility and preferred entry

Also, some books could be a combination of relevant content rather than an original creation and writing. For your reference :) On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 1:42 PM, Joan Wang jw...@illinoisheartland.orgwrote: From the information about Frank Booty*. *He is used to be an editor :) Yes. I made

Re: [RDA-L] Question on responsibility and preferred entry

10010 Phone: (646) 312-1687 Email: michael.borr...@mail.cuny.edu ** ** *From:* Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] *On Behalf Of *Joan Wang *Sent:* Thursday, September 05, 2013 2:00 PM *To:* RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC

Re: [RDA-L] Question on responsibility and preferred entry

. *About the Authors* * * *Frank Booty is former editor of Facilities Management and a contributor to, and editor of, other market-leading titles, books and web sites in the fields of business, IT and networking. * Hopefully it helps. Thanks, Joan Wang Illinois Heartland Library System On Thu

Re: [RDA-L] PCC RDA record examples

(Mac) Elrod (m...@slc.bc.ca) {__ | / Special Libraries Cataloguing HTTP://www.slc.bc.ca/ ___} |__ \__ -- Zhonghong (Joan) Wang, Ph.D. Cataloger -- CMC Illinois Heartland Library System (Edwardsville Office) 6725 Goshen Road

Re: [RDA-L] Relator terms relation to work

I think that we can expand the relationships to projects embodied in a work, such as a legal case, a thesis, and a government policy. Thanks, Joan Wang Illinois Heartland Library System On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 3:23 PM, J. McRee Elrod m...@slc.bc.ca wrote: I've forgotten whether

Re: [RDA-L] Relator terms relation to work

I should say the intellectual content of a work :-) On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 3:46 PM, Joan Wang jw...@illinoisheartland.orgwrote: I think that we can expand the relationships to projects embodied in a work, such as a legal case, a thesis, and a government policy. Thanks, Joan Wang Illinois

Re: [RDA-L] Title with embedded square brackets

consider dash as a punctuation and keep them? Have fun :-) Thanks, Joan Wang Illinois Heartland Library System On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 5:16 PM, Adam L. Schiff asch...@u.washington.eduwrote: Transcribe square brackets found on the source of information used. 2.3.1.4 Transcribe a title

Re: [RDA-L] Title with embedded square brackets

It does not make many sense if we transcribe it as S-h-e. Who cares about that? users or catalogers? If we consider dash separating letters in the word a punctuation, I would suggest an omission of punctuations that disturb a word to be complete. Just my opinion :-) Thanks, Joan Wang Illinois

Re: [RDA-L] Title with embedded square brackets

not play an important role in searching. They help more for understanding (at the semantic level or data element level). I think that that is the reason for the omission or addition of punctuations.Punctuations should be used as a technique :-) Thanks, Joan Wang Illinois Heartland Library System On Fri

Re: [RDA-L] Duplicate page numbering

I feel that cxciv, 47, 47, 48-148 pages looks better. cxciv, 47, 47, 148 pages could be interpreted as various pagings. But it is not the truth. Thanks, Joan Wang Illinois Heartland Library On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 3:46 PM, John Hostage host...@law.harvard.eduwrote: What about cxciv, 47, 47

Re: [RDA-L] Relator term for committee chair

and should be vetted by your own security mechanisms. The Parliament of Western Australia accepts no liability for any loss or damage arising from the use of this email or its attachments. -- Zhonghong (Joan) Wang, Ph.D. Cataloger -- CMC Illinois Heartland Library System (Edwardsville Office) 6725

Re: [RDA-L] Bibliographic 380

to construct terms if we need. Or, it is a common sense? Any more advice? Many thanks, Joan Wang Illinois Heartland Library System On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 11:47 PM, J. McRee Elrod m...@slc.bc.ca wrote: Thank you Thomas for letting me know that 380 may be used in bibliographic records. (One cataloguer

Re: [RDA-L] Content/Media/Carrier Types - Video Games

Thanks. Thomas. I have not gone through your responses. But I notice that you mentioned 380 form of work. It is possible to give some instructions about the use of 380 field in bibliographic records? I mean in what situations we should use 380 fields. Many thanks for that in advance. Joan Wang

Re: [RDA-L] My new blog post about RDA in China

Thanks for sharing. I read the article. I can image the situation of the implementation of RDA in China :-) Thanks, Joan Wang Illinois Heartland Library System On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 2:45 PM, Li Kai islande...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, I wrote a new blog post about RDA's developments

Re: [RDA-L] Reconciliation of RDA and MARC relators

Bernadette Thanks for your explanation. I know what you mean. My question actually is these two terms are quite close. It would be hard for us to choose if they both are allowed to us. Thanks again, Joan Wang On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 3:39 AM, Bernadette Mary O'Reilly bernadette.orei

Re: [RDA-L] Reconciliation of RDA and MARC relators

Sorry. should be allowed to use (not us). Thanks. On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 7:50 AM, Joan Wang jw...@illinoisheartland.orgwrote: Bernadette Thanks for your explanation. I know what you mean. My question actually is these two terms are quite close. It would be hard for us to choose

Re: [RDA-L] 264 with only a copyright date

or Claremont Lincoln University. It has been forwarded as a courtesy for information only. -- Zhonghong (Joan) Wang, Ph.D. Cataloger -- CMC Illinois Heartland Library System (Edwardsville Office) 6725 Goshen Road Edwardsville, IL 62025 618.656.3216x409 618.656.9401Fax

Re: [RDA-L] 264 with copyright date and first published date and reprint date

indicator 4), the only thing you need is sub-field c for the copyright date. As you did, put a symbol before the date. Hopefully it helps. Joan Wang Illinois Heartland Library System On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 2:50 AM, Basma Chebani b...@aub.edu.lb wrote: Hello, I have one a case

[RDA-L] Manufacture statement

feel that I may have to take option 1. Isn't it too much work? Many thanks for your help in advance. Joan Wang -- Zhonghong (Joan) Wang, Ph.D. Cataloger -- CMC Illinois Heartland Library System (Edwardsville Office) 6725 Goshen Road Edwardsville, IL 62025 618.656.3216x409 618.656.9401Fax

Re: [RDA-L] Manufacture statement

gotten a chance to see records with three dates: a probable publication date, a probable distribution date, and a copyright date. So I assume there is no such requirement. Is that right? On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 1:14 PM, Joan Wang jw...@illinoisheartland.orgwrote: Hi, all I have a question about

Re: [RDA-L] Manufacture statement

Sorry. Should be option 2. On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Joan Wang jw...@illinoisheartland.orgwrote: I feel that the answer should be option 1. A similar case is for copyright date. A copyright date is only required if neither date of publication nor date of distribution is identified. So

Re: [RDA-L] Reconciliation of RDA and MARC relators

** ** *** Bernadette O'Reilly Catalogue Support Librarian Bodleian Libraries, Osney One Building Osney Mead Oxford OX2 0EW. bernadette.orei...@bodleian.ox.ac.uk 01865 2-77134 *** ** ** -- Zhonghong (Joan) Wang, Ph.D. Cataloger

Re: [RDA-L] 264 with only a copyright date

of Congress Policy encourages you to supply a probable publication date. The policy includes a guideline for supplying a probable publication date. Does that make sense? Thank you. Joan Wang Illinois Heartland Library System On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 8:06 AM, Amy Mercer amer...@leeuniversity.eduwrote

Re: [RDA-L] Extent -- some ideas

carriers. So if a carrier type includes a pagination, record it. Apparently RDA attempts to use pagination instead of volume to record extent of volumes mainly with text. But it forgets that not only text could be carried by a volume. I feel that is why it causes a trouble :-) Thanks, Joan Wang

Re: [RDA-L] Citing an unnumbered page

Rush Rhees Library University of Rochester Rochester, NY 14627-0055 wnicke...@library.rochester.edu (585) 273-2326 fax: (585) 273-1032 * -- Zhonghong (Joan) Wang, Ph.D. Cataloger -- CMC Illinois Heartland Library System (Edwardsville Office

Re: [RDA-L] Citing an unnumbered page

-BAC.GC.CA] *On Behalf Of *Joan Wang *Sent:* Wednesday, August 21, 2013 12:20 PM *To:* RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA *Subject:* Re: [RDA-L] Citing an unnumbered page ** ** Library of Congress Policy: *do not use square brackets in notes except when they are used in quoted data* *Example

Re: [RDA-L] Citing an unnumbered page

page ii seems to make more sense :-) On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 12:04 PM, Joan Wang jw...@illinoisheartland.orgwrote: OK! Now I know what you are saying. Put a word to indicate that? like unnumbered page 2? On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Nickeson, Walter wnicke...@library.rochester.edu

Re: [RDA-L] Citing an unnumbered page

Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] *On Behalf Of *Joan Wang *Sent:* Wednesday, August 21, 2013 12:20 PM *To:* RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA *Subject:* Re: [RDA-L] Citing an unnumbered page

Re: [RDA-L] Citing an unnumbered page

for back cover. __ __ J. McRee (Mac) Elrod (m...@slc.bc.ca) {__ | / Special Libraries Cataloguing HTTP://www.slc.bc.ca/ ___} |__ \__ -- Zhonghong (Joan) Wang, Ph.D. Cataloger -- CMC Illinois Heartland Library

Re: [RDA-L] Recording text and symbol in copyright dates

This is the rule: Precede the date by the copyright symbol (©) or the phonogram copyright symbol (℗). If the appropriate symbol cannot be reproduced, precede the date by copyright or phonogram copyright. Joan Wang Illinois Heartland Library System On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 2:45 PM, Crum, Cathy

Re: [RDA-L] Question re: 776 for Custom Editions, which are excerpts/adapted from full textbooks

I am not sue if the custom edition in your email means a different edition or a different physical form. If it is a different edition, I would use 775. If it is a different physical form, I would use 776. Hopefully it helps :-) Joan Wang Illinois Heartland Library System On Tue, Aug 20, 2013

Re: [RDA-L] Question re: 775 (not 776) for Custom Editions, which are excerpts/adapted from full textbooks

level. Does excerpts means an abbreviated version? Or mean a rewriting? If it means a rewriting, the relationship will be at the work level. See if anybody else can help more. I am also learning :-) Thanks, Joan Wang On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 10:09 AM, MCCUTCHEON, SEVIM lmccu...@kent.eduwrote

Re: [RDA-L] Question re: 775 (not 776) for Custom Editions, which are excerpts/adapted from full textbooks

@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] *On Behalf Of *Joan Wang *Sent:* Tuesday, August 20, 2013 10:48 AM *To:* RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA *Subject:* Re: [RDA-L] Question re: 776 for Custom Editions, which are excerpts/adapted from full textbooks ** ** I am not sue if the custom edition in your email means

Re: [RDA-L] Question re: 775 (not 776) for Custom Editions, which are excerpts/adapted from full textbooks

I feel that the modification in your case more likes a revision. On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 11:34 AM, Joan Wang jw...@illinoisheartland.orgwrote: Adaptation in RDA seems to mean the modification would result in another literary form. On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 11:25 AM, Aaron Smith aaronkaysm

Re: [RDA-L] Unknown date

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Re: [RDA-L] Illustration terms in 7.15.1.3

for chiefly illustrations. In such a case, the artist (if there is one) would be in 100 field. Is that right? Any more clarification is appreciated. Thanks Joan Wang Illinois Heartland Library System On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 8:54 AM, Heidrun Wiesenmüller wiesenmuel...@hdm-stuttgart.de wrote: Francis

Re: [RDA-L] Unknown date

** ** -- Zhonghong (Joan) Wang, Ph.D. Cataloger -- CMC Illinois Heartland Library System (Edwardsville Office) 6725 Goshen Road Edwardsville, IL 62025 618.656.3216x409 618.656.9401Fax

Re: [RDA-L] Unknown date

Adam Thanks a lot for letting me know :-) Joan On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 11:09 AM, Adam L. Schiff asch...@u.washington.eduwrote: Joan, The between dates should have a question mark at the end according to RDA. Adam Schiff University of Washington Libraries On Thu, 15 Aug 2013, Joan Wang

Re: [RDA-L] Unknown date

-dev.searchtechnologies.com/saved/Mabibl_264 #1 $a … $b … $c [between 1993 and 1999] 008/06 Type of date q 008/07-10 1993 008/11-14 1999 Thank you very much for your time. Regards, Joan On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 11:14 AM, Joan Wang jw...@illinoisheartland.orgwrote: Adam Thanks a lot

Re: [RDA-L] Unknown date

: Thursday, August 15, 2013 10:09 AM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Unknown date Joan, The between dates should have a question mark at the end according to RDA. Adam Schiff University of Washington Libraries On Thu, 15 Aug 2013, Joan Wang wrote: Date: Thu, 15

Re: [RDA-L] Unknown date

Forgot to say, a probable country would like this: [United States?] On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 11:28 AM, Joan Wang jw...@illinoisheartland.orgwrote: It is possible to supply a probable county, like United States? Also,Place (upper-cased) not place :-) On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 11:21 AM

Re: [RDA-L] Unknown date

* * * * * *** ** ** *From:* Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] *On Behalf Of *Joan Wang *Sent:* Thursday, August 15, 2013 10:29 AM *To:* RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA *Subject:* Re: [RDA-L] Unknown date

Re: [RDA-L] Unknown date

was published between 2000 and 2004, or you may assume that it was PROBABLY published between 2000 and 2004; those are two different things. Yes, Kevin. You are right. I just read RDA 1.9.2.4 and 1.9.2.5 and found the difference. Thanks. Also thanks to Adam :-) Joan Wang On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 11

Re: [RDA-L] Relationship designators in LC Records

- Reproductions (LC Core) Related items - Reproductions (LC Core) - Special relationships for rare materials as warranted (LC Core) - “Bound with” (LC Core) Serial relationships (LC Core) Thanks, Joan Wang On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 2:20 PM, Arakawa, Steven steven.arak

Re: [RDA-L] Still doing edition statements for large print?

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Re: [RDA-L] Capitalization in 2.9.4.4

be changed like this: 2.9.4.4 Record words or phrases indicating the function (other than solely distributing) performed by a person, family, or corporate body as they appear on the source of information. My opinion! Thanks, Joan Wang Illinois Heartland Library System On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 4:54 AM

Re: [RDA-L] Capitalization in 2.9.4.4

the removal of other than solely publishing in instruction at 2.8.4.4. But it seems to be a big difference :) At least the relevant instructions in the three statements are not consistent. Thanks, Joan Wang On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 9:13 AM, Deborah Fritz debo...@marcofquality.comwrote

Re: [RDA-L] Capitalization in 2.9.4.4

Haven, CT 06520 203.432.9672francis.la...@yale.edu ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** *From:* Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] *On Behalf Of *Joan Wang *Sent:* Thursday, August 08, 2013 10:29 AM *To:* RDA-L

Re: [RDA-L] Date given in an incomplete form

n’avez aucun droit d’utiliser cette information, de la copier, de la distribuer ou de la diffuser. Si cette communication vous a été transmise par erreur, veuillez la détruire et nous en aviser immédiatement par courriel. ** ** -- Zhonghong (Joan) Wang, Ph.D. Cataloger -- CMC Illinois

Re: [RDA-L] 1st original RDA record - questions

. Anyway, more work is always good :) Thanks, Joan Wang Illinois Heartland Library System On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 9:00 AM, Adam L. Schiff asch...@u.washington.eduwrote: 700 1_ $i Contains (work): $a Estes, David. $t Anna's story. should be 700 12 $i Contains (work): $a Estes, David. $t

Re: [RDA-L] 1st original RDA record - questions

:* Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] *On Behalf Of *Joan Wang *Sent:* Friday, August 02, 2013 9:21 AM *To:* RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA *Subject:* Re: [RDA-L] 1st original RDA record - questions ** ** In this case

Re: [RDA-L] 1st original RDA record - questions

I do think that I am right. It should mean that it contains an expression, although the heading would not have an element for the original language. Sorry about that :) On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 9:39 AM, Joan Wang jw...@illinoisheartland.orgwrote: Does that mean it contains both a work

Re: [RDA-L] 1st original RDA record - questions

No. It is possible if we use the same heading to represent a work and its expression (for a compilation). Is that right? On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 9:45 AM, Joan Wang jw...@illinoisheartland.orgwrote: I do think that I am right. It should mean that it contains an expression, although the heading

Re: [RDA-L] 1st original RDA record - questions

So better to put two identical headings, and respectively $i Contains (work) and Contains (expression) -:) On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 9:54 AM, Joan Wang jw...@illinoisheartland.orgwrote: No. It is possible if we use the same heading to represent a work and its expression (for a compilation

Re: [RDA-L] 1st original RDA record - questions

I think that you are right. Kevin. For me, I would not put anything. I think that the second indicator 2 is enough -:) Thanks again. Joan Wang On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 10:09 AM, Kevin M Randall k...@northwestern.eduwrote: I think if you use Contains (expression) that should be sufficient

Re: [RDA-L] 300 #e

Harvey A. Andruss Library Bloomsburg University of Pennsylvania 400 E. 2nd St. Bloomsburg PA 17815 570-389-4226 mhinc...@bloomu.edu ** ** -- Zhonghong (Joan) Wang, Ph.D. Cataloger -- CMC Illinois Heartland Library System (Edwardsville Office) 6725 Goshen

Re: [RDA-L] RDA--How dynamic is it?

been forwarded as a courtesy for information only. -- Zhonghong (Joan) Wang, Ph.D. Cataloger -- CMC Illinois Heartland Library System (Edwardsville Office) 6725 Goshen Road Edwardsville, IL 62025 618.656.3216x409 618.656.9401Fax

[RDA-L] Compilation

in the same manifestation? I know that Library of Congress Policy puts compilations under Related Works. I am trying to understand that :) Any insights or comments? Thank you very much in advance :) Joan Wang Illinois Heartland Library System -- Zhonghong (Joan) Wang, Ph.D. Cataloger -- CMC

Re: [RDA-L] Compilation

at 10:04 AM, Joan Wang jw...@illinoisheartland.orgwrote: The question about 505 content notes reminds me a question about compilations. According to FRBR, the primary relationships are between work, expression, and manifestation, and item of Group 1 entities. These relationships are actually

Re: [RDA-L] Still doing edition statements for large print?

the resource itself”. As Deborah mentioned, it meets the principle of differentiation. Thanks, Joan Wang Illinois Heartland Library System On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 7:28 AM, Watters, Tim (MDE) watte...@michigan.govwrote: On Tue, 30 Jul 2013 J. McRee Elrod posted: ** ** “We do

Re: [RDA-L] RDA Content/Media/Carrier types [was: The A in RDA]

a) that applies to the predominant part of the resource (if there is a predominant part), or b) that apply to the most substantial parts of the resource (including the predominant part, if there is one). Hopefully that my understanding is correct :) Thank you! Joan Wang Illinois Heartland Library System

Re: [RDA-L] ] The A in RDA

includes inter-library loan and online access to digital resources. So far, I think that the process for searching and making use of bibliographic records is fulfilled. The above is my (maybe limited) understanding of user tasks defined in FRBR :) Thank you! Joan Wang Illinois Heartland Library

Re: [RDA-L] ] The A in RDA

Let's help our users. This is the reason we discuss issues here and assist with proposals to improve RDA :) Happy Monday! Joan Wang Illinois Heartland Library System On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 8:53 AM, JSC Chair jscch...@rdatoolkit.org wrote: RDA is about describing bibliographic resources

Re: [RDA-L] 338 field for a volume of art prints

Strategy/Special Formats Processing The New York Public Library, Stephen A. Schwarzman Building 5th Avenue and 42nd Street, Room 313 New York, NY 10018 kathiecoble...@nypl.org My opinions, not NYPL's -- Zhonghong (Joan) Wang, Ph.D. Cataloger -- CMC Illinois Heartland Library System

Re: [RDA-L] 7.17 Colour content

, Joan Wang Illinois Heartland Library System On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 11:41 AM, Mitchell, Michael michael.mitch...@brazosport.edu wrote: Would it make sense to consider the illustrations to be representative of the content of the work (rather than the expression or manifestation) since a work

Re: [RDA-L] 7.17 Colour content

Is it 45 pages : color illustrations? Thank you. Joan Wang On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 12:12 PM, Darlene Taylor darlene.tay...@sait.cawrote: hi. The examples you are showing are mostly from the old cataloging rules,AACR2. They should be: 45 pages : illustrations (colour) 45 pages

Re: [RDA-L] Recording (large print)

There would be many misleading mappings using your criterion. I am not a person who is able to answer the question. But I believe that many people would be happy with taking advantage of the convenience :) Thanks, Joan Wang Illinois Heartland Library System On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 4:34 PM

Re: [RDA-L] Photocopy of a thesis in RDA?

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Re: [RDA-L] Translated from notes and code for original language

A similar case is for accompanying materials. I consider it a whole-part relationship. But they are encoded in $c of 300 fields. I was told that it is a structured description. So Thanks, Joan Wang On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 3:33 PM, Heidrun Wiesenmüller wiesenmuel...@hdm-stuttgart.de wrote

Re: [RDA-L] Translated from notes and code for original language

Sorry. Should be $e of 300 fields :) On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 11:10 AM, Joan Wang jw...@illinoisheartland.orgwrote: A similar case is for accompanying materials. I consider it a whole-part relationship. But they are encoded in $c of 300 fields. I was told that it is a structured description

Re: [RDA-L] 264 question

-515#rda10-515), or corporate body (see 11.3http://access.rdatoolkit.org/document.php?id=rdachp11target=rda11-4145#rda11-4145 ). If you go referred chapters of RDA in the rule of Appendix B.11, you will see they all are for authority records. My understanding. Thanks, Joan Wang Illinois Heartland

Re: [RDA-L] 264 question

Sorry, should be for authorized access points (headings). On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 12:24 PM, Joan Wang jw...@illinoisheartland.orgwrote: Use the abbreviations in table B.1http://access.rdatoolkit.org/document.php?id=rdaappbtarget=rdab-399#rdab-399for the names of certain countries

Re: [RDA-L] Photocopy of a thesis in RDA?

How can I understand a photocopy of a thesis? I guess that many theses could be photocopies. Do we still consider theses as manuscripts under RDA? If look at the definition in RDA Toolkit, they are not. But if look at OCLC special cataloging guidelines, they are. Happy fourth! Joan Wang Illinois

Re: [RDA-L] Translated from notes and code for original language

things beyond rules and sentences he/she is seeing and capturing. But it is really not something new for cataloging. Is that right :) I am learning from the discussion. Thanks to everyone, Joan Wang Illinois Heartland Library System On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 8:15 PM, Robert Maxwell robert_maxw

Re: [RDA-L] Translated from notes and code for original language

Hi, Heidrun I am not sure if I understand your issue correctly. Does it go relationships between expressions? So we can use structured or unstructured descriptions, or relationship designators in authorized access points. If I am not right, please feel free to correct me. Thanks, Joan Wang

Re: [RDA-L] Translated from notes and code for original language

Heidrun, I look at MARC to RDA mapping. It shows that the corresponding RDA instruction number is N/A. So I have to say that I do not know :) Have a great weekend, Joan Wang On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 12:48 PM, Heidrun Wiesenmüller wiesenmuel...@hdm-stuttgart.de wrote: Joan

Re: [RDA-L] No date of publication, first printing

correction would be appreciated. Thanks to everyone. Joan Wang Illinois Heartland Library System On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 12:40 PM, Deborah Fritz debo...@marcofquality.comwrote: My thanks to the folks who sent in feedback on how they would handle my two date examples. As I suspected

Re: [RDA-L] SOR from copyright statement

I agree with Deborah. I would verify the illustrator from other sources, and bracket the statement. Thanks, Joan Wang On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 3:02 PM, Deborah Fritz debo...@marcofquality.comwrote: The data entry instruction for the SOR element is: 2.4.2.3 Record statements of responsibility

Re: [RDA-L] RE : [RDA-L] 264 All are entity functions required?

A tiny question is about the capitalization. Is it upper-case like [Place of publication not identified] and [Publisher not identified], or lower-case? Thanks for your help. Joan Wang On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 9:57 PM, Paradis Daniel daniel.para...@banq.qc.cawrote: According to LC's training

Re: [RDA-L] 264 All are entity functions required?

for Library of Congress. Hopefully it helps. Thanks, Joan Wang On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 3:38 PM, Julie Moore julie.renee.mo...@gmail.comwrote: (My apologies for the cross-posting) Dear All, In trying to move beyond the inexplicable inconsistent period issue ... Now we have with the 264

[RDA-L] Language of expression

, Russian, or encoded in separate fields? Many thanks for your help in advance. Joan Wang -- Zhonghong (Joan) Wang, Ph.D. Cataloger -- CMC Illinois Heartland Library System (Edwardsville Office) 6725 Goshen Road Edwardsville, IL 62025 618.656.3216x409 618.656.9401Fax

Re: [RDA-L] Language of expression

I recall my message. I sent it to a wrong email address. Sorry about that. On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 9:49 AM, Joan Wang jw...@illinoisheartland.orgwrote: I have a question about MARC encoding of multiple languages in a single expression. RDA instructs us to record language of expression

Re: [RDA-L] Language of expression

Thanks, Adam RDA 6.27.3 does refer to 6.11 for constructing authorized access point representing an expression. But Library of Congress Policy limits an addition of an expression attribute to four types of materials, which does not include motion pictures. Thanks again, Joan Wang On Thu, Jun 6

Re: [RDA-L] Language of expression

. If following RDA 6.11.1.4, we would encode each of them in separate fields. So we would see, for example, multiple 730 fields (each has $l). Hope somebody else would like to confirm it. Thanks for your time. Joan Wang On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 11:03 PM, Trina Pundurs tpund...@library.berkeley.edu

Re: [RDA-L] Language of expression

Herskovitz ; produced by Edward Zwick, Pieter Jan Brugge ; director of photography, Eduardo Serra ; screenplay by Clayton Frohman Edward Zwick ; directed by Edward Zwick. *A motion picture with some dialogue in English, some dialogue in German, and some dialogue in Russian.* Thanks again, Joan Wang

[RDA-L] Language of expression

multiple expressions are not under the big umbrella of RDA 6.11.1.4. Is it under 6.11.1.3? Hope somebody would like to help :-) Thanks for your time. Joan Wang Illinois Heartland Library System -- Zhonghong (Joan) Wang, Ph.D. Cataloger -- CMC Illinois Heartland Library System (Edwardsville Office

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with the wind (Motion picture).$hSound recording. 700 1#$aE., Sheila$q(Escovedo),$d1959- $tDawn, the beginning.$hSound recording. Under RDA, subfield h Sound recording would be changed to Spoken word, is that right? Thanks for your help in advance. Regards, Joan Wang -- Zhonghong (Joan) Wang, Ph.D

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help in advance. Regards, Joan Wang -- Zhonghong (Joan) Wang, Ph.D. Cataloger -- CMC Illinois Heartland Library System (Edwardsville Office) 6725 Goshen Road Edwardsville, IL 62025 618.656.3216x409 618.656.9401Fax

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130 0#$aGone with the wind (Motion picture).$hSound recording. I think that for this, should use Performed music in $h? On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 9:50 AM, Joan Wang jw...@illinoisheartland.orgwrote: (Forgot to put subject in the earlier email I sent. Sorry about that) Hi, All I hope

[RDA-L] authorized access point for collaborative works

archaeological sites in New Zealand Resource described: Management of wetland archaeological sites in New Zealand / Warren Gumbley, Dilys Johns, and Garry Law My question is: how it works in MARC encoding? Any clarification would be appreciated. Thanks, Joan Wang Illinois Heartland Library System

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? And Library of Congress policy says Do not apply ??? Thanks, Joan Wang On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 11:09 AM, Tony Fang fangx...@umn.edu wrote: Joan, If it is truly a collaborative work by the three named authors, then, it will look like this: 100 1_ Gumbley, Warren, 1962– $e author. 245 10

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Robert, Thanks. That is what I thought. I do not think that it would work in MARC. But it raises a totally different idea (right?). Thanks again, Joan Wang On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Robert Maxwell robert_maxw...@byu.eduwrote: The RDA alternative implies that all the names would

Re: [RDA-L] Question about examples in 2.5.6.3

. If it is, the example may need more explanation. Any more clarification would be appreciated. Thanks, Joan Wang Illinois Heartland Library System On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 12:47 AM, Michael Chopey cho...@hawaii.edu wrote: I'm confused about the capitalization of the examples in 2.5.6.3 (Recording

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If the example *World's classics ed., New ed. rev*. appears under 2.5.1.4 Recording Edition Statement. It really should not include the designations of a named revision. Go too far! Thanks, Joan Wang On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 10:08 AM, John Hostage host...@law.harvard.eduwrote: There is also

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. Thanks to Arthur, Joan Wang On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Arthur Liu art@gmail.com wrote: Hi Joan, My understanding is: Complete works means all the works by a person, in all forms that the person worked in. (6.2.2.10.1) Complete works in a single form means all the works

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by (maybe the title proper). I still think that the preferred tile for a work is different from a title proper found in a manifestation. So some instructions or references would be helpful. Thanks, Joan Wang On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 12:14 PM, Joan Wang jw...@illinoisheartland.orgwrote: two

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not in a single form. A simple *Selections *seems to be more reasonable. Thanks for your time. I am also tired with the question :) Have a wonderful weekend! Joan Wang On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 12:35 PM, Joan Wang jw...@illinoisheartland.orgwrote: I think the lack of any subsection in 6.2.2

Re: [RDA-L] Question about examples in 2.5.6.3

Great! Heidrun. These examples should be reexamined. Thanks, Joan Wang On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 1:29 PM, Heidrun Wiesenmüller wiesenmuel...@hdm-stuttgart.de wrote: John Hostage wrote: There is also this example in 2.5.1.4: World's classics ed., New ed. rev. Oddly, this example

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help. Joan Wang On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 3:21 PM, Kevin M Randall k...@northwestern.eduwrote: The 1XX field relates only to the title in the 240 or 245. Fields 730 and 740 should be used for titles that do not have a personal, family, or corporate body name as part of the authorized access

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Thanks, Jean. I was not aware with that. Joan Wang On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 3:48 PM, Harden, Jean jean.har...@unt.edu wrote: I’m not Kevin, but yes, definitely it is fine to use the same name in 100 and 700 (or 110 and 710). As Kevin said, the 1xx field has no necessary relation to any

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