Re: [RE-wrenches] Large off-grid inverter/storage

2019-09-06 Thread Lorenzo Ortiz
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Large off-grid inverter/storage

2019-09-06 Thread Ray
Of *palumbo1...@gmail.com *Sent:* Thursday, September 05, 2019 7:48 PM *To:* RE-wrenches *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Large off-grid inverter/storage Is “25 Kw per hour” a real value? For us old school people there is kW and they is kWh (kilowatt hours). I’m guessing that it is 25 kWh per average

Re: [RE-wrenches] Large off-grid inverter/storage

2019-09-06 Thread Starlight Solar Power Systems
Hi Andrew, Any phrase that includes “per hour” while describing power use, generation or storage in a RE system is probably a misnomer. Think about it: you could just as well say 25kW per second or per month. That’s because kW is a term that describes a rate or power, not a quantity of energy

Re: [RE-wrenches] Large off-grid inverter/storage

2019-09-06 Thread Andrew
-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Large off-grid inverter/storage Is “25 Kw per hour” a real value? For us old school people there is kW and they is kWh (kilowatt hours). I’m guessing that it is 25 kWh per average day, or, about 750 KWh / month. Dave Palumbo Hyde Park, VT Sent from my iPhone

Re: [RE-wrenches] Large off-grid inverter/storage

2019-09-06 Thread Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar
NT: Thursday, September 05, 2019 3:15 PM TO: RE-wrenches SUBJECT: [RE-wrenches] Large off-grid inverter/storage Hey Everyone, I have been recently been getting more and more inquiries for some quite large off-grid sytems(25kw per hour) and seeing what you guys have for suggestions on bigge

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2019-09-06 Thread Tump
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Large off-grid inverter/storage

2019-09-05 Thread palumbo131m
Is “25 Kw per hour” a real value? For us old school people there is kW and they is kWh (kilowatt hours). I’m guessing that it is 25 kWh per average day, or, about 750 KWh / month. Dave Palumbo Hyde Park, VT Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 5, 2019, at 5:15 PM, Andrew wrote: > > Hey Everyone, >

Re: [RE-wrenches] Large off-grid inverter/storage

2019-09-05 Thread Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar
onsider the environment before printing this email. FROM: RE-wrenches ON BEHALF OF Andrew SENT: Thursday, September 05, 2019 3:15 PM TO: RE-wrenches SUBJECT: [RE-wrenches] Large off-grid inverter/storage Hey Everyone, I have been recently been getting more and more inquiries for some quite la

[RE-wrenches] Large off-grid inverter/storage

2019-09-05 Thread Dana
esponsible Technologies for Responsible People since 1988" P Please consider the environment before printing this email. From: RE-wrenches On Behalf Of Andrew Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2019 3:15 PM To: RE-wrenches Subject: [RE-wrenches] Large off-grid inverter/storage Hey Every

[RE-wrenches] Large off-grid inverter/storage

2019-09-05 Thread Andrew
Hey Everyone, I have been recently been getting more and more inquiries for some quite large off-grid sytems(25kw per hour) and seeing what you guys have for suggestions on bigger inverters and storage systems? I could do 2 triple stack Schneider's and a bunch of HUPS industrial

Re: [RE-wrenches] Large Off Grid Inverter?

2018-04-26 Thread Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar
nchronized >> generators that can ramp up/down based on demand. Perhaps similar tech >> to what Tesla is doing in Australia. >> >> Kevin >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org]

[RE-wrenches] Large Off Grid Inverter?

2018-04-26 Thread jay
There are many large 250kw to multi mw battery based inverters that should cover this project. Most are coming out of china, so I don’t know if UL is something they have. Princeton is one here in the USA, looks like 250kw and 500kwh is their largest on the web site. Sun Grow is one of many

Re: [RE-wrenches] Large Off Grid Inverter?

2018-04-26 Thread Ray
12:37 PM To: RE-wrenches <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> Subject: [RE-wrenches] Large Off Grid Inverter? Greetings Fellow Wrenches; We are consulting on a power system for a large off grid facility that is currently operating on a 1500 kW gen set.  The loads are enormous for normal of

Re: [RE-wrenches] Large Off Grid Inverter?

2018-04-26 Thread Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar
nerators that can ramp up/down based on demand. Perhaps similar tech to > what Tesla is doing in Australia. > > Kevin > > > -Original Message- > From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On > Behalf Of Ray > Sent: April-25-18 12:37 PM >

Re: [RE-wrenches] Large Off Grid Inverter?

2018-04-26 Thread bzp
Try a three phase soft starter. Programmable start ramp time with relay bypass. Not as expensive as a full blown VFD. Frank BZP. On 4/26/2018 9:17 AM, Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar wrote: Agree with Daryl here at the end. You have to solve the motor surge with variable frequency drive and go

Re: [RE-wrenches] Large Off Grid Inverter?

2018-04-26 Thread Kevin Pegg
: April-25-18 12:37 PM To: RE-wrenches <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> Subject: [RE-wrenches] Large Off Grid Inverter? Greetings Fellow Wrenches; We are consulting on a power system for a large off grid facility that is currently operating on a 1500 kW gen set.  The loads are enormous for

[RE-wrenches] Large off grid inverter

2018-04-26 Thread Hilton Dier
A tough assignment, but Daryl has the right idea. A company I used to work for did large off grid systems and would use something they called a rotary capacitor (or something like that). It was a large induction motor paralleled into the grid. It had a DC pony motor and some synchro

Re: [RE-wrenches] Large Off Grid Inverter?

2018-04-26 Thread Ray
We're not too worried about reducing the surge at this point; the existing soft start controller is currently programmed for a fast start, because their electrician was worried about motor damage if the controller was set to limit current.  It is currently surging to 700% of run current, so we

Re: [RE-wrenches] Large Off Grid Inverter?

2018-04-26 Thread Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar
Agree with Daryl here at the end. You have to solve the motor surge with variable frequency drive and go 3 phase. If there is a reasonable cost to use the grid I would not even bother with quoting an off the grid solution. It is what the grid is best at and batteries are the wrong way for this.

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2018-04-25 Thread Darryl Thayer
you have a problem that is much bigger than I work on. But on a large motor heavy starting loads problem, we used an extra capacitor on the DC bus of the frequency drive. the drive on its own greatly reduced the start surge, if the load can be started slowly. If the motor must ramp up quickly

[RE-wrenches] Large Off Grid Inverter?

2018-04-25 Thread Ray
Greetings Fellow Wrenches; We are consulting on a power system for a large off grid facility that is currently operating on a 1500 kW gen set.  The loads are enormous for normal off grid: in the neighborhood of 600 amps continuous at 480 v 3 phase.  Surges are close to 2000 amps, but we are