Re: [RE-wrenches] Metering

2023-05-13 Thread Darryl Thayer via RE-wrenches
I have used Egauge in this situation many times. They even have revenue-grade Current Transformers.(CTs) Their tech support is good, I find even I can set them up easily. They use normal English in their documentation. On Thu, May 11, 2023 at 3:21 PM Larry Brown via RE-wrenches <

Re: [RE-wrenches] Metering

2023-05-11 Thread Kent via RE-wrenches
If the inverter(s) provided energy production data, you would already have all the information you really need. Sounds like it must not. So, if you are looking for something that is relative inexpensive and reasonably accurate, but not revenue grade, you could use an Efergy True Power meter

Re: [RE-wrenches] Metering

2023-05-11 Thread Jerry Shafer via RE-wrenches
Lary do you want analog or digital, egauge is great for remote monitoring or just your basis utility meter and socket is a inexpensive solution a simple results. Jerry On Thu, May 11, 2023, 1:21 PM Larry Brown via RE-wrenches < re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote: > > Does anyone have a

Re: [RE-wrenches] Metering

2023-05-11 Thread Glenn Burt via RE-wrenches
If they dont need revenue grade measurements, I recommend the Sense monitoring unit.I have had one in my house for years and it is inexpensive and gives me at a glance status on their website amd their mobile app.Clip on a couple of CT's, install a breaker for power and connect it to their

Re: [RE-wrenches] Metering

2023-05-11 Thread Ray Walters via RE-wrenches
If you have a built in monitoring system for the PV (inverter's onboard metering?) that should tell you PV production, and then subtract that from the monthly utility readings to get the household loads.  I don't see the need for a separate inline meter, but I guess it depends how

Re: [RE-wrenches] Metering

2023-05-11 Thread Sam Haraldson via RE-wrenches
The following are brands I have used and trust. eGauge - https://www.egauge.net/ Emporia Vue - https://www.emporiaenergy.com/how-the-vue-energy-monitor-works Verify there is available space within the main service to install the current transformers for the mains. Also verify there is space and

[RE-wrenches] Metering

2023-05-11 Thread Larry Brown via RE-wrenches
Does anyone have a recommendation for a high quality meter that can be installed near the Main 200 Amp Electric Service Panel at the Point Of Interconnection in the Main Service Panel for a Grid Tied System The client wants to be able to track the electricity the household is actually using

Re: [RE-wrenches] Metering

2014-09-30 Thread August Goers
*To:* RE-wrenches *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Metering All, Great points and a little education of others' feelings about, essentially how granular we need to be in monitoring. I'm curious who is monitoring the Enphase systems in the solar world, seriously. I know 95% of my

Re: [RE-wrenches] Metering

2014-09-30 Thread William Miller
Friends: Supposedly the SMA Portal will email alerts. Can anyone describe their experience with this product? Thanks, William Gradient Cap_mini Lic 773985 http://www.millersolar.com/ millersolar.com 805-438-5600 ___ List sponsored

Re: [RE-wrenches] Metering

2014-09-30 Thread August Goers
:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Metering Friends: Supposedly the SMA Portal will email alerts. Can anyone describe their experience with this product? Thanks, William [image: Gradient Cap_mini] Lic 773985 millersolar.com http://www.millersolar.com/ 805-438-5600

Re: [RE-wrenches] Metering

2014-09-30 Thread Nick Soleil
. Best, August Luminalt *From:* RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] *On Behalf Of *frenergy *Sent:* Monday, September 29, 2014 7:02 PM *To:* RE-wrenches *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Metering All, Great points and a little education

Re: [RE-wrenches] Metering

2014-09-29 Thread Chris Mason
We are using some cheap DIN rail mounted meters KWh and Power.

Re: [RE-wrenches] Metering

2014-09-29 Thread Christopher Warfel
Bill, The refurbished utility meter is the lowest cost option that meets the requirements of accuracy for RECs that I am aware of. Chris On 9/28/2014 5:25 PM, frenergy wrote: CA wrenches, I'm trying to (for the sake of my monetarily impaired customers) figure out a less expensive way

Re: [RE-wrenches] Metering

2014-09-29 Thread August Goers
-wrenches *Subject:* [RE-wrenches] Metering CA wrenches, I'm trying to (for the sake of my monetarily impaired customers) figure out a less expensive way to meter/monitor small enphase systems. One of my local utilities will allow me to just use a remanufactured utility-grade meter (ala

Re: [RE-wrenches] Metering

2014-09-29 Thread toddcory
this is where i get mine:http://www.visionmetering.com/products/refurbished-electric-meters/ On Monday, September 29, 2014 7:12am, "Christopher Warfel" cwar...@entech-engineering.com said: Bill, The refurbished utility meter is the lowest cost option that meets the requirements of accuracy for

Re: [RE-wrenches] Metering

2014-09-29 Thread Ray Walters
] *On Behalf Of *frenergy *Sent:* Sunday, September 28, 2014 2:26 PM *To:* RE-wrenches *Subject:* [RE-wrenches] Metering CA wrenches, I'm trying to (for the sake of my monetarily impaired customers) figure out a less expensive way to meter/monitor small enphase systems. One of my local

Re: [RE-wrenches] Metering

2014-09-29 Thread Glenn Burt
: Re: [RE-wrenches] Metering The 2nd problem with the Envoy besides cost is that it isn't always reliable.Communication through power lines is not a new or fresh idea, and has Always been problematic. Once you install something you are expected to make it work, and that can be a nightmare

Re: [RE-wrenches] Metering

2014-09-29 Thread frenergy
at the inverter and no green light...CALL BILL. Thanks folks for the resources for meters, din rail too. Bill - Original Message - From: Glenn Burt To: 'RE-wrenches' Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 5:17 PM Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Metering I would not classify what we

[RE-wrenches] Metering

2014-09-28 Thread frenergy
CA wrenches, I'm trying to (for the sake of my monetarily impaired customers) figure out a less expensive way to meter/monitor small enphase systems. One of my local utilities will allow me to just use a remanufactured utility-grade meter (ala AEE) These meters are inexpensive, robust

Re: [RE-wrenches] Metering a whole house Outback system

2012-08-21 Thread toddcory
i get mine through vision metering (used to be austin international). refurbished, and programmed for seperate buy sell registers they are around $75.00 each. [https://visionmetering.3dcartstores.com/Vision-Meter-Form-12S-120V-Class-200_p_211.html]

[RE-wrenches] Metering a whole house Outback system

2012-08-20 Thread Hilton Dier III
Hello Wrenches, Here's a metering conundrum for you. I have a client with a dual stacked Outback 3648 inverter panel and a PV array. He has been off-grid for years, but he is now going on-grid. He is getting the Outbacks rebuilt at the factory to be grid tie compatible. As per our local

Re: [RE-wrenches] Metering a whole house Outback system

2012-08-20 Thread David Katz
the batteries. I read my Elkor meter with a SolarLog monitor. David Katz Sent from my HTC smartphone on the Now Network from Sprint! - Reply message - From: Hilton Dier III hiltond...@gmail.com To: re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Subject: [RE-wrenches] Metering

Re: [RE-wrenches] Metering a whole house Outback system

2012-08-20 Thread Dave Palumbo
Subject: [RE-wrenches] Metering a whole house Outback system Date: Mon, Aug 20, 2012 9:15 am Hello Wrenches, Here's a metering conundrum for you. I have a client with a dual stacked Outback 3648 inverter panel and a PV array. He has been off-grid for years, but he is now going on-grid. He

Re: [RE-wrenches] Metering a whole house Outback system

2012-08-20 Thread David Katz
I get them from SolarLog in Connecticut. David Sent from my HTC smartphone on the Now Network from Sprint! - Reply message - From: Dave Palumbo d...@independentpowerllc.com To: apos;RE-wrenchesapos; re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Subject: [RE-wrenches] Metering a whole house Outback

Re: [RE-wrenches] Metering a whole house Outback system

2012-08-20 Thread Chris Mason
An eGuage is a REALLY good way to do this so I would not dismiss it. On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 12:15 PM, Hilton Dier III hiltond...@gmail.comwrote: Hello Wrenches, Here's a metering conundrum for you. I have a client with a dual stacked Outback 3648 inverter panel and a PV array. He has

Re: [RE-wrenches] Metering a whole house Outback system

2012-08-20 Thread Glenn Burt
-wrenches' Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Metering a whole house Outback system Dave, Sounds like a great solution. We have an OB Radian net-metered PV with battery back-up coming up this fall. Where do we source an Elkor meter? Thanks, Dave David Palumbo Independent Power LLC 462 Solar

Re: [RE-wrenches] Metering a whole house Outback system

2012-08-20 Thread toddcory
you will need two kv2c 'green tag' meters... one for each 120 volt leg. todd On Monday, August 20, 2012 9:15am, Hilton Dier III hiltond...@gmail.com said: Hello Wrenches, Here's a metering conundrum for you. I have a client with a dual stacked Outback 3648 inverter panel and

Re: [RE-wrenches] metering an outback system

2010-08-11 Thread Alex Cozine
Yes, you are correct. The Solar pro diagram and article is great for understanding each mode the meter can be in. On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 5:57 AM, Drake Chamberlin drake.chamber...@redwoodalliance.org wrote: Hi Alex, The one meter hook up always seems confusing to me. I'm still

Re: [RE-wrenches] metering an outback system

2010-08-10 Thread Drake Chamberlin
Hi Alex, The one meter hook up always seems confusing to me. I'm still confused. Do we have the AC IN at both the bottom left and top right? To me it seems that the AC OUT from the inverter would go to the upper left and the protected loads panel would be fed from the bottom left. I've

Re: [RE-wrenches] metering an outback system

2010-08-10 Thread David Brearley
Drake, Chris Freitas wrote an article on this topic in SP1.1, ³Form 12S Metering for Grid-Tied Systems w/ Battery Backup.² Here¹s a link to the article and a wiring diagram: http://solarprofessional.com/article/?file=SP1_1_pg16_QandA_3search= David Brearley, Senior Technical Editor SolarPro

[RE-wrenches] metering an outback system

2010-08-09 Thread Gary Easton
Hello, I am having trouble metering a system with an Outback 3648 serving a protected loads panel. I need a way to accurately measure the production. I have a dual stator 12s meter installed with the AC in coming in the bottom and out the top and the AC from the inverter going in the top and out

Re: [RE-wrenches] metering an outback system

2010-08-09 Thread Kent Osterberg
Gary, If this is a new digital meter, it may be accumulating all energy without regard to direction. That is the way the utilities purchase them, to prevent energy theft, so that is the default configuration from the meter manufacturers. When purchasing a digital kWh meter to use for metering

Re: [RE-wrenches] metering an outback system

2010-08-09 Thread Alex Cozine
When metering for production here in Washington State, we use both sides in a 12s 120volt meterbase with fifth jaw. top right inverter ac in, bottom right ac from grid. top left from battery back up, bottom left from inverter ac in, fifth jaw neutral. this set up allows grid tied selling and