Re: [Repeater-Builder] ten meter repeater setups

2004-12-02 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Looks like the ARRL and RSGB don't communicate very well about band plans. This is going to be interesting when the band opens up to Europe! Conditions on 10FM to Japan, etc. are already open this season. They should check out the 10M FM mailing list on yahoo. LJ Original Message:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] ten meter repeater setups

2004-12-02 Thread Wade Lake
Amen, I have had a few 10 meter repeater QSO's just to try it. They were all incredibly short due to about 12 interfering repeaters all being keyed up at once!! You would think that a 10 meter repeater op would, at the very least, set them up to require a CTCSS tone so that they dont

Re: [Repeater-Builder] ten meter repeater setups

2004-12-02 Thread T.J.
Yea, even in the same band. UHF repeater with a UHF remote base. The repeater is on 442 withtheremote baseon 444. It's linking to another repeater about seventy miles away. We let each repeater ID on it's own. The repeater TX PL tones are COS operated so that the PL tone is only transmitted

RE: [Repeater-Builder] ten meter repeater setups

2004-12-02 Thread Paul Finch
I am in the planning process for constructing a 10 meter repeater and it will have tone on most of the time. There will only be limited times where the tone will be turned off. Paul WB5IDM -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December

Re: [Repeater-Builder] ten meter repeater setups

2004-12-02 Thread Wade Lake
I have an435 MHz simplex linkradio on a 440 MHz repeater. I have my controller not holding PTT for a hang time on the link port and obviously no courtesy tone either. The other repeater I am linking to is set up the same way.This makes the link very seamless. You cant even tell that its

Re: [Repeater-Builder] ten meter repeater setups

2004-12-02 Thread Mark Holman
I thought on 10 M. that some are tone access ? I think Chicago, IL did ?? Mark Holman Isn't Radio Fun !! ?? - Original Message - From: Wade Lake [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 8:00 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] ten meter

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wanted! Motorola Mitrek (Lo-Band) Manual #6881039E70

2004-12-02 Thread Mike WA6ILQ
At 10:25 AM 12/1/04, you wrote: I want a Mitrek manual #6881039E70 or a copy of one for a Mitrek low band (42-50 mhz) radio. Need for alignment porposes and schematic as I want to convert to a 6mm repeater. Contact me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm also in QRZ. Gene Rodgers

Re: [Repeater-Builder] ten meter repeater setups

2004-12-02 Thread TGundo 2003
The one on the south side of chicago (29.66)was listed as tone access, but it runs carrier squelch as far as i can tell.. Yup, just kerchunked it with no pl. Tom W9SRV Mark Holman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought on 10 M. that some are tone access ?I think Chicago, IL did ??Mark

[Repeater-Builder] was: ten meter repeater setups now CTCSS

2004-12-02 Thread Robin Staebler
When I put tone on a group complained no tone board.. OK I gave out the tone temp-off. Oops no touch tone board. Too bad we have 4 less users.. conersations much better now! Robin J Staebler WE1MD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: RE using CTCSS: Nobody said repeater owners were smart. The

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: ten meter repeater setups

2004-12-02 Thread russ
You left out there family tree goes up but does not branch out in some cases smile - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 12:39 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: ten meter

Re: [Repeater-Builder] was: ten meter repeater setups now CTCSS

2004-12-02 Thread russ
We gave every one a date when we would turn on the PL on the repeater. You can add a Comspec encoder to any radio for under $30.00. Hey its only 3 wires and two are power. The third I like to put on the discriminator pot most of the time. So any Ham should be able to install PL or some one

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Remote Receiver PL

2004-12-02 Thread russ
It is not! It least under Part 90 and 95. Back in the 70ty's many folks would tell people it was but it is not in the rules. - Original Message - From: Steve Kometz To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 4:38 PM Subject: Re:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] was: ten meter repeater setups now CTCSS

2004-12-02 Thread mch
Yes, it's only 3 wires (B+, ground, and audio), but it's amazing how many extra class licensees can't do that! Joe M. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Remote Receiver PL

2004-12-02 Thread Jim B.
Steve Kometz wrote: Carrier squelch illegal on UHF??? For commercial systems, yes. Part 90 and 95. In the U.S. -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group,

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Remote Receiver PL

2004-12-02 Thread Jim B.
Wade Lake wrote: I worked in the radio biz for years. I was involved in setting up many a commercial repeater and even though it is good practice to use DCS or CTCSS, I don't recall the FCC licenses restricting carrier access. That goes double for the public safety repeaters (police

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: ten meter repeater setups

2004-12-02 Thread Jim B.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: RE using CTCSS: Nobody said repeater owners were smart. The SERA group just rescinded their new rule of requiring CTCSS/DCS on all new repeater pairs because too many of the old farts complained. (most probably didn't know how to program a tone in their

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Remote Receiver PL

2004-12-02 Thread Johnny
Where in the Part 95 reg's does it state that carrier squelch is not permitted??? Johnny Jim B. wrote: Steve Kometz wrote: Carrier squelch illegal on UHF??? For commercial systems, yes. Part 90 and 95. In the U.S. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] was: ten meter repeater setups now CTCSS

2004-12-02 Thread russ
This is a sad but true statement! 73 Russ, W3CH - Original Message - From: mch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 8:53 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] was: ten meter repeater setups now CTCSS Yes, it's only 3 wires (B+,

Re: [Repeater-Builder] ten meter repeater setups

2004-12-02 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unfortunately, many 10M Repeaters get their coordination with the condition that they be in CTCSS Access. One in Southern California that I know of is doing this. Some repeater builders put them up for testing and just never seem to get around to turning on the decoder. Or they come up with

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Remote Receiver PL

2004-12-02 Thread russ
NO! What part 90 are you looking at. I spoke with the FCC this morning and it is not in there copy of part 90. I looked in the PF book I have and it is a few years old not there . Once again an old myth. Not in the rules. 73 Russ, W3CH - Original Message - From: Jim B. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wanted! Motorola Mitrek (Lo-Band)Manual #6881039E70

2004-12-02 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I think what he was getting at was wanting a USED manual. I see them at hamfests for $5-10 (got mine for $2 at Dayton). I bought a bunch at Dayton several years ago, but have sold the extras already. They are around, and often on ebay, etc. (and this group) for a lot less than Motorola wants for

Re: [Repeater-Builder] snide remarks

2004-12-02 Thread kd6hcn
Tony has a great point! The issue with sera was a simple one, not so much that the old farts complained about the new PL encode/decode requirement. The issue at hand with sera is simple, coordinators throughout the U.S. have no authority to dictate repeater operations other than they conform to

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Equipment suggestions- Help!

2004-12-02 Thread KI4AWK
I'm confused on something, and hopefully someone will guide me in the right direction. I'm not sure which is needed to complete my Simplex repeater station, minus the controller. I see all the stuff listed on EBAY from GE and Motorola like transceiver and repeaters. Which do I need ?

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wanted! Motorola Mitrek (Lo-Band) Manual #6881039E70

2004-12-02 Thread Carroll Rodgers
When I contacted Motorola and gave them the model # T81JAA4900DK they informed me the manual was no longer available and gave me the number that is posted. Suggested news groups or Ebay. Gene --- Mike WA6ILQ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 10:25 AM 12/1/04, you wrote: I want a Mitrek manual

Re: [Repeater-Builder] snide remarks

2004-12-02 Thread Steve Grantham
Okay.. Everyone had to suffer through this crap on QRZ.COM and in other forums. I could comment on further on this. But... Can we give this a rest? Steve - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 9:28 AM

4-wire EM + VoIP (was: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Remote Receiver PL)

2004-12-02 Thread Nate Duehr
edctexas wrote: A microwave system is great for the handling of a remote receiver system. Most of the link channels are 4W and do have EM signalling. Hey since 4-wire EM came up here... I'll ask this question to this list. I've asked various VoIP lists, but haven't had any positive

Re: [Repeater-Builder] snide remarks

2004-12-02 Thread mch
Uhhh... coordinators DO have the authority to set the terms for which they will grant (or deny) a coordination. It's the same as limiting the ERP, or antenna height. If you say the coordinator has no authority to require specifications, then what IS a coordination? Answer: It's a set of operating

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wanted! Motorola Mitrek (Lo-Band)Manual #6881039E70

2004-12-02 Thread Carroll Rodgers
When I contacted Motorola and gave them the model # T81JAA4900DK they informed me the manual was no longer available and gave me the number that is posted. Suggested news groups or Ebay. Gene --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think what he was getting at was wanting a USED

RE: [Repeater-Builder] snide remarks

2004-12-02 Thread Buley, Kenneth L \(GE Consumer Industrial\)
Uhhh... coordinators DO have the authority to set the terms for whichthey will grant (or deny) a coordination.That is correct, they have the "authority" to set any terms that happen to please them, however, they have no authority, other than denial of "coordination", to prevent anyone

RE: 4-wire EM + VoIP (was: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Remote Receiver PL)

2004-12-02 Thread Kim Carr
Look at Multi-Tech Systems (www.multitech.com) They have 1, 2, 4 and 8 port boxes. Supports FXS, FXO and E/M on every port configured in software. Kim, K5TU -Original Message- From: Nate Duehr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 11:32 AM To:

RE: [SPAM] - RE: 4-wire EM + VoIP (was: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Remote Receiver PL) - Email found in subject

2004-12-02 Thread Kevin Bednar
Which boxes are you talking about Kim? I don't see anything mentioning EM signalling? Of course it may also be a brain fart on my end. ;) Kevin K2KMB -Original Message- From: Kim Carr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 12:38 PM To:

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Inverting COS

2004-12-02 Thread jay_kruckenberg
Thanks to all who posted way to get the job done. Most were good, a few were rude, but hey. What can you expect. I am building some Motorola mobile radios to become EchoLink/IRLP link radios and needed to get a positive going COS so EchoLink IRLP would respond correctly. I just overlooked

[Repeater-Builder] RE using CTCSS:

2004-12-02 Thread kc7gf
Guess I missed something, thought we were talking Part 97 here. Evidently I hit a "Jeff Foxworthy" soft spot. Usually a coordination council votes on something as a group and the majority decision is what becomes the rule. Evidently not at SERA. Tone is good, tone is great, tone should be

[Repeater-Builder] Requiring CTCSS

2004-12-02 Thread kc7gf
Living 1/2 mile from 'RF hell" on top of Lookout Mtn. requires that a repeater must have tone before I can listen to the channel without putting up with constant intermod. We have several untoned repeaters here in the Denver area that can't understand why someone would want tone on the output

Re: 4-wire EM + VoIP (was: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Remote Receiver

2004-12-02 Thread hwstar
Nate, We have the hardware and software solution you are looking for. See www.zapatatelephony.com under the remote base link. Steve WA6ZFT. From: Nate Duehr [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2004/12/02 Thu PM 12:31:30 EST To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: 4-wire EM + VoIP (was: Re:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] snide remarks

2004-12-02 Thread Mark Holman
I'll agree with Tony .. An Amateur is considerate towards others, part of the Radio Amateurs Code I don't flaunt my license class towards anyone, or that I am persuing advanced interests in electronics. I have been in other Chat-BBSes that are purely BS with an arrogant person

[Repeater-Builder] Re: [Tower-pro] 8 Old ATT Sites for Sale

2004-12-02 Thread Neil McKie
Forwarded from the Tower-pro remailer: Jamie Piche wrote: Hi All, I am selling 8 old Att sites for a client that is going to be taking them down. They are complete sites with Gensets, batteries, heliax, antennas. For more details, please see the online pictures and information at

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wanted! Motorola Mitrek (Lo-Band) Manual #6881039E70

2004-12-02 Thread Neil McKie
Hello ... The 68-81039E70 Manual covers the T81JJA Series (AK Suffix) to 68-81037E65-B Manual The 68-81045E65 Manual covers the T51/81JJA Series (BK Suffix) The above information comes from the Motorola Reference List: For Instruction Manuals and Instruction Sections. Hope

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Requiring CTCSS

2004-12-02 Thread Neil McKie
As Bill Pasternak, WA6ITF, pointed out so well a number of years ago: 5-2 ... is one half of 10-4 ... ;) Neil - WA6KLA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... snip ... I've often thought the 100hz tone would be a good idea for use on some simplex channels were the ex-CBer contingent

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Requiring CTCSS

2004-12-02 Thread Jim B.
Neil McKie wrote: As Bill Pasternak, WA6ITF, pointed out so well a number of years ago: 5-2 ... is one half of 10-4 ... ;) Neil - WA6KLA mercy sakes... ;cD -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] snide remarks

2004-12-02 Thread Neil McKie
See below ... (please excuse me, Kevin) mch wrote: Buley, Kenneth L (GE Consumer Industrial) wrote: Uhhh... coordinators DO have the authority to set the terms for which they will grant (or deny) a coordination. That is correct, they have the authority to set any terms that

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Where to buy DB 224e

2004-12-02 Thread russ
There contact info is (Cook Towers, INC): e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] toll free phone number: 877-992-2665 They are open 08:00 through 17:00 eastern time. Monday to through Friday and closed Saturday and Sunday. Good luck and 73, Russ, W3CH - Original Message - From: Mike WA6ILQ [EMAIL