RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: just thinking

2008-07-20 Thread Scott Berry N7ZIB
To, You didn't ruffle my goose down at all. I was just pointing out too you why I think this list is great for some one in my situation. But sure there are many different building procedures and every one enjoys it in a different way. So no problems here. Scott Berry Email:

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: PL Problem

2008-07-20 Thread David Murman
Run all my repeaters with a tone of 600 hz. This is what GE recommended when I was in the 2-way business. So far all three repeaters, two VHF and one UHF have had no problem with any radio being able to decode the tone. David -Original Message- From:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: just thinking

2008-07-20 Thread Jim Brown
Tom, its really a matter of productivity.  Doing something as a hobby is one thing, and you do learn more by doing it yourself and then finding out how to really do it right, but that sure does not cut it if you are in a commercial environment. I started as a circuit designer and after 10

[Repeater-Builder] KL Duplexer (Possibly 220 MHz?)

2008-07-20 Thread Bob
Does anyone have any info on this duplexer set made by KL Microwave? Eight 11 tall, 3-3/4 diamter black aluminum cans in a 16 wide aluminum frame--four cylinders per side. On top of the frame at one side is a BNC antenna port, at the other end of the frame there are RX and TX BNCs. The

[Repeater-Builder] R1 Audio Squelch CArd

2008-07-20 Thread Grant
Does anyone have a spare (to sell) audio squelch card for a MSR2000 If so please let me know on or off group. Thanks

[Repeater-Builder] M-II VHF huge split

2008-07-20 Thread Gary Glaenzer
anyone see a problem with a M-II operating thus: RX 161.70 TX 170.15 or 166.25 no duplexer, separate antennas (rx @ 450 ft, DB-224; tx @ 100 feet, yagi) thoughts ? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to:

[Repeater-Builder] Re: NBC Dateline - Thread closed

2008-07-20 Thread Doug Fitts
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Scott Zimmerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This thread has gone on a completely unacceptable tangent Let's move on. I'd be the first to say YES, lets move on, watch the program and learn something from it!! My cable company DVR is also set to record just

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Off Topic: SO-239 Hoods

2008-07-20 Thread Barry
Surely a cm or two or nitto self adhesive water proof tape would be an item to keep in a drawer for future requirements if the purchase of two hoods is a problem not solvable locally ? To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 11:05:29 -0400 Subject:

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: PL Problem

2008-07-20 Thread JOHN MACKEY
I set all my repeaters for 450 Hz to 550 hz and have never had a problem with listeners being able to decode. so something in the range that David suggests below should be fine. I know some people who think PL level should be set at 750 hz to 900 hz. In my opinion, that is way to high, and it

Re: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: PL Problem

2008-07-20 Thread Ron Wright
A good rig has a PL filter so you don't hear it, but know it comes thru on some rigs. Does sound annoying when it does. Also need to remove from the repeater receiver for it might beat with the tx generated PL due to it being slightly different freq/phase. Most rigs will not pass low freq PL

Re: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: PL Problem

2008-07-20 Thread JOHN MACKEY
You are correct, a good rig will have a PL filter so you don't hear it. But many of these newer Yae-com-wood radios don't seem to have adequate filtering. So I try to run my repeater PL tone at about 450 Hz, which has worked well. I know that 15 years ago I set up a GE Mastr Pro repeater with

Re: Re: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: PL Problem

2008-07-20 Thread JOHN MACKEY
I think you are probably correct. I do remember that the 2 PL tones had to be about the same level. If one PL tone was at a significantly higher level then the other, then the lower level tone was unable to decode. It was also important that the tones not be close or harmonicly related; 100 Hz

Re: Re: Re: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: PL Problem

2008-07-20 Thread Ron Wright
Paul, The same happens with DTMF. If one has too much distortion the low group harmonics get into the high group and confuse the decoder. DTMF decoder ICs do the same period averaging. On the u thing use to be more of a problem with SSB and VOX. Some of us to prevent clipping of the

Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Measuring Desense

2008-07-20 Thread Wayne
For me, TV may be another matter. I can pick up 7 and 9 VHF, maybe 60-70 air miles away, and Channel 2 barely (sometimes almost fair at night). Plus 69 UHF, but seems to be only BW and in Spanish. There are a few more channels, but may be too weak and in a slightly different direction. I

Re: [Repeater-Builder] M-II VHF huge split

2008-07-20 Thread wd8chl
Gary Glaenzer wrote: anyone see a problem with a M-II operating thus: RX 161.70 TX 170.15 or 166.25 no duplexer, separate antennas (rx @ 450 ft, DB-224; tx @ 100 feet, yagi) thoughts ? Not right off. 350' of vertical separation, and frequency separation of 5-10 MHz, should yield no

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: PL Problem

2008-07-20 Thread wd8chl
Eric Lemmon wrote: My statement about the definition of Standard CTCSS Modulation is correct, and thank you for confirming that. As others have pointed out, manufacturers are not necessarily bound to comply with TIA standards. I guess the real issue is, why should any manufacturer set CTCSS

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Getting a Freq Counter to Read Lower

2008-07-20 Thread Gmail - Kevin, Natalia, Stacey Rochelle
Jim, Thank you for that information. I remembered a DMV I have with a freq reading on it. I had forgot about it because I had a mishap when moving and the LCD spread in the bottom left corner and put t to one side. Still able to read most of the display. Anyway I pulled it out, and it was able

RE: Re: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: PL Problem

2008-07-20 Thread Jeff DePolo
I'll probably get down there before they finish. They don't need me there to put the dish together - I would just be standing there watching anyway. Once they're done we'll have to do the alignment, configure the receiver, finish the wiring up, etc. Is Mel done with whatever he has to do to

Re: Re: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: PL Problem

2008-07-20 Thread N0ATH
Ooops! - Original Message - From: Jeff DePolo To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 10:55 PM Subject: RE: Re: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: PL Problem I'll probably get down there before they finish. They don't need me there to put the dish together - I would

RE: Re: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: PL Problem

2008-07-20 Thread Jeff DePolo
Holy cow! I don't know how I did that - I was replying to a completely different message from someone else but somehow I sent it to the list. Sorry 'bout that... -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff DePolo Sent: