Re: [Repeater-Builder] 2.4 Ghz wireless radio and 145.410 repeater

2008-11-21 Thread Jim Brown
I installed a remote receiver for a repeater this last summer at a site where a 900 mHz wireless distribution system, along with a 5.x gHz backbone was located.  The site also had a 2.4 gHz local wireless router installed. In order to operate the remote receiver the squelch had to be as tight

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 2.4 Ghz wireless radio and 145.410 repeater

2008-11-21 Thread Kris Kirby
On Fri, 21 Nov 2008, JOHN MACKEY wrote: I agree with the other recommendations you have been given, make all the cable run shielded and then see if you have any problems. Most networking guys DO NOT understand anything about RF. The inverse is often true as well. Most RF guys do not

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 2.4 Ghz wireless radio and 145.410 repeater

2008-11-21 Thread jgielis
On 21/11/2008 7:23:02 PM, Kris Kirby ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Fri, 21 Nov 2008, JOHN MACKEY wrote: I agree with the other recommendations you have been given, make all the cable run shielded and then see if you have any problems. Most networking guys DO NOT understand anything about

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 2.4 Ghz wireless radio and 145.410 repeater

2008-11-21 Thread G Shaw
Why have the the WIFI at 120 feet on the tower for just use by your family. Drop the WIFI to 50 feet and it would probably be fine for around the house and yard on the WIFI and the repeater problem would go away most likely. Glenn N1GBY -Original Message- From:

[Repeater-Builder] Good Repeaters for UHF Ham Band

2008-11-21 Thread John Transue
My ham radio club is ready to replace our 440 repeater. I have read the spec/data sheets on the Icom IC FR-4000 and the Kenwood TKR-850. Here are my questions: Are these among the best modern repeaters available? Is one or the other superior? Is there a different repeater you would prefer or

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Good Repeaters for UHF Ham Band

2008-11-21 Thread Chuck Kelsey
Good Repeaters for UHF Ham BandJust curious... what do you have now and why are you replacing it? Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: John Transue To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 10:19 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Good Repeaters for UHF Ham

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 2.4 Ghz wireless radio and 145.410 repeater

2008-11-21 Thread no6b
At 11/20/2008 18:32, you wrote: About 5 feet from each other. --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, JOHN MACKEY [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How close are the 2 meter repeater antenna and the 2.4G antenna? Why does the Canopy antenna need to be so close to the top of the tower? I'd try

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Good Repeaters for UHF Ham Band

2008-11-21 Thread Ken Arck
At 07:19 AM 11/21/2008, John Transue wrote: Information that might be relevant: The repeater will be in a standard 19-inch rack mount cabinet. It will be inside, not exposed to the elements. It can be used with or without a power amplifier (5W in, 90W out). I would like the power out to be

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Good Repeaters for UHF Ham Band

2008-11-21 Thread Jim Brown
Our club budgeted for a Kenwood 750 repeater to replace an RCA TAC-200 mobile repeater we have had in service for 15 years.  Replacing it was deemed necessary since repair parts are no longer available. I objected to this replacement from the start, wanting to put another GE Mastr II base

[Repeater-Builder] Master 2 vhf and a link radio Uhf,How???

2008-11-21 Thread gervais fillion
Hi i have my repeater that is master 2 base repeater,,the oven as called. i wonder what is the simplest way to connect an uhf radio,Ge phoenix on her?? i could use the screew on her back plate?? i need an uhf that would be use as a link radio,anyone that want to use the Vhf repeater could enter

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Good Repeaters for UHF Ham Band

2008-11-21 Thread John Transue
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 10:19 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Good Repeaters for UHF Ham Band My ham radio club is ready to replace our 440 repeater. Yahoo! Groups Links __ NOD32 3630 (20081121

[Repeater-Builder] 147.060 147.660

2008-11-21 Thread Randy Brumback
Anyone have a Mastr II set for 147.060 and 147.660? a 5C set will do. Randy From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Morris WA6ILQ Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 10:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com Subject:

[Repeater-Builder] Looking GE Amp parts

2008-11-21 Thread Com/Rad Inc
21 Nov 2008 Hello Group REF: GE MASTR III VHF 100 WATT PA Looking for some replacement semicounductors - Driver and PA devices. Could use two sets of each Also looking for a complete 110 W PA assembly of availavbe at the right price. Anyone out there looking to dispose of such itrems?

[Repeater-Builder] MTR 2000

2008-11-21 Thread John Transue
To help me determine whether the Motorola MTR 2000 is our of my club's funding range, would someone tell me approximately what a ham radio club would have to pay for such a repeater? John

Re: [Repeater-Builder] MTR 2000

2008-11-21 Thread NORM KNAPP
Go with a kenwood tkr-850 (uhf) or tkr-750 (vhf), save a ton of money and you won't be sorry. - Original Message - From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri Nov 21 12:36:40 2008

Re: [Repeater-Builder] MTR 2000

2008-11-21 Thread n6lrv
You can expect to spend at least $1000 for a used MTR and anywhere from $4000 to $7000 for a new one. 40 watt units are a little cheaper than 100 watt but not by much. I'd recommend looking for something else because the MTR's can be expensive to repair should any repair be needed that requires

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Good Repeaters for UHF Ham Band

2008-11-21 Thread Chuck Kelsey
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] MTR 2000

2008-11-21 Thread James Adkins
I'd highly recommend a Motorola MSF-5000 that's PC programmable. They are bulletproof and can be had for probably half of a used MTR-2000. On 11/21/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can expect to spend at least $1000 for a used MTR and anywhere from $4000 to $7000 for a new

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Good Repeaters for UHF Ham Band

2008-11-21 Thread ks4ec
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Good Repeaters for UHF Ham Band

2008-11-21 Thread Scott Zimmerman
Good Repeaters for UHF Ham BandJohn, I would have to agree with the comments made by Jim Brown in this thread. I would put any 20-30yr old converted commercial gear up against a brand new Kenwood, Icom, whatever machine. There is nothing wrong with properly converted commercial gear. The best

Re: [Repeater-Builder] MTR 2000

2008-11-21 Thread Roger White
I found one in excellent condition on eBay for $800, a 900 MHz 75 watt repeater a few months ago. But I agree with the group, that if it ever needs repair, I may be in some sort of trouble. I do have the manual, but would like more detail. BTW, there are some articles on RB in interfacing the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Good Repeaters for UHF Ham Band

2008-11-21 Thread Lee Pennington
Ditto on Scott,s remarks, I have a twenty five year old MASTR II, 40 w. on 70 cm. , and a twenty seven year old Micor, 110 w, on 2m,( receiver by Scott).Bulletproof!! Regards, Lee, K4ljp On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 2:36 PM, Scott Zimmerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John, I would have to

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Good Repeaters for UHF Ham Band

2008-11-21 Thread Cort Buffington
Yep, me too. I've spent a fair amount of time touting the goodness of the Motorola R1225 and GM300 (links), but I'm also running several MSR2000s, and if you want a repeater that will just run and run and run and run, you still can't beat a Micor, MSR2000, MastrII, etc. On Nov 21, 2008, at

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Good Repeaters for UHF Ham Band

2008-11-21 Thread Chuck Kelsey
I agree. However, I'm seeing more and more ham clubs without the personnel to service their own equipment. As such, they are uncomfortable with something that they cannot box up and send in for repair. Unfortunately, it's not that simple. There are other factors involved, which they eventually

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Good Repeaters for UHF Ham Band

2008-11-21 Thread Cort Buffington
And the exact opposite. Last spring I watched a club replace the antenna on the club repeater because the repeater went totally deaf but could still be heard just as before. To be fair, the antenna was in bad shape, and did need to be replaced, but the catalyst for replacing the antenna

[Repeater-Builder] Perparation of new antenna

2008-11-21 Thread wa5luy
I know this subject has been kicked around in the past but I need a refresher. We are about to install a brand new DB 420 at the top of our 220 foot county tower for our local 444.6 repeater. Other than checking all the hardware and tightening the connections what else needs to be done. Is

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Master 2 vhf and a link radio Uhf,How???

2008-11-21 Thread Jim Brown
Gervais, take a look at the link below for an interface to EchoLink for one of the PSE-508 controllers. http://www.pionsimon.com/w5zit.htm My original interface used the stock GE Repeater Audio and Repeater Control cards, and I found that the PSE-508 could be modified the same way.  But you

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Master 2 vhf and a link radio Uhf,How???

2008-11-21 Thread Jim Brown
Gervais, Here are the files I could not find to send you before. 73 - Jim  W5ZIT --- On Fri, 11/21/08, gervais fillion [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: gervais fillion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Master 2 vhf and a link radio Uhf,How??? To: repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com Date:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Perparation of new antenna

2008-11-21 Thread Mike Morris WA6ILQ
At 04:13 PM 11/21/08, you wrote: I know this subject has been kicked around in the past but I need a refresher. We are about to install a brand new DB 420 at the top of our 220 foot county tower for our local 444.6 repeater. Other than checking all the hardware and tightening the connections what

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Master 2 vhf and a link radio Uhf,How???

2008-11-21 Thread gervais fillion
JIm these are great files for me and my project, by chance would you have some pictures of this board by chances?? Again you help is mostly appreciated by me thanks Gervais ve2ckn To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 16:41:36 -0800Subject: Re:

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Master 2 vhf and a link radio Uhf,How???

2008-11-21 Thread Jim Brown
I did not take any pictures Gervais, but the important thing to keep in mind is that the complete interface to the external radio can be done using the terminal connections on the rear of the card file.  The modifications are only documented for a PSE-508, but the idea is there to use the two

[Repeater-Builder] Re: 2.4 Ghz wireless radio and 145.410 repeater

2008-11-21 Thread n9lv
I'm in the country and the only way we could get a signal was from the top of the tower, as I am pulling service from 12 miles away. 50' would be well below the tree lines out here. Mathew --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, G Shaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why have the the WIFI at 120

[Repeater-Builder] Re: 2.4 Ghz wireless radio and 145.410 repeater

2008-11-21 Thread n9lv
The tried at 110' was not enough signal, -80 dbm was best, at 120' we hit -72 dbm so that is where it had to go. What I am looking for is possibly a filter that will solve the problem and allow them both to survive on the same tower. Mathew --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL

[Repeater-Builder] RE: 2.4 Ghz wireless radio and 145.410 repeater

2008-11-21 Thread Joey Gottlieb
Set the Ethernet link to 10 mHz and the problem should go away. The Canopy gear doesn't go that fast on the RF side anyway. If you can't do it on your end the ISP can easily do it on theirs. The other post about shielded Cat 5 will help as well. Regards, Joey 1a. 2.4 Ghz wireless

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 2.4 Ghz wireless radio and 145.410 repeater

2008-11-21 Thread JOHN MACKEY
Yes,,, but,,, RF (analog) guys tend to be quicker to understand networking (digital) issues and certainly take less for granted. -- Original Message -- Received: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 01:23:13 AM PST From: Kris Kirby [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Fri, 21 Nov 2008, JOHN MACKEY wrote: I agree with

[Repeater-Builder] Re: 2.4 Ghz wireless radio and 145.410 repeater

2008-11-21 Thread Laryn Lohman
I am going to disable the preamp and see if that helps the issue any. Sure, it'll help. Anything you do to make your receiver less sensitive to RF will probably help in NOT hearing an interfering signal too. But give it a try and let us know what happens. Laryn K8TVZ

[Repeater-Builder] Re: 2.4 Ghz wireless radio and 145.410 repeater

2008-11-21 Thread Laryn Lohman
About two years a local provider installed a (I believe) Canopy system on top of the grain elevator about 20 feet horizontally from one of our remote receiver antennas on 2M. We were subjected to 10+db of desensing from it. In this case, were fortunate enough to be able to move our antenna to

[Repeater-Builder] Re: 2.4 Ghz wireless radio and 145.410 repeater

2008-11-21 Thread wb0vhb
I had a similar problem with a Motorola Canopy subscriber unit. Changed the ethernet port speed from 100 Base T to 10 Base T and the problem went away. You will need to have your ISP change this unless you know how to access the unit. Let me know if this helps. Randy WB0VHB --- In

[Repeater-Builder] Re: 2.4 Ghz wireless radio and 145.410 repeater

2008-11-21 Thread wb0vhb
I don't think his WiFi unit is used to transmit to other laptops and computers in his house. Rather this is a client or bridge unit used to feed his home computer with internet from a distant access point. Randy WB0VHB --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, G Shaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 2.4 GHz wireless radio and 145.410 repeater

2008-11-21 Thread Mike Mullarkey
John and John KS0F, I agree that the shielded cat 5 should take care on most of the issues at hand. I was reminded last night talking to my old boss about the Pass Port system and brought up this topic. He mentioned that the final fix was they changed the cat 5 cable to the Mohawk brand that

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 2.4 Ghz wireless radio and 145.410 repeater

2008-11-21 Thread Robert Pease
Many companies sell a 24db gain antenna for 2.4 ghz. I bought several from a florida company about 5 years ago for $75 each. They worked great and we never had a noise problem with the vhf or uhf repeaters at the site, although we left all of the transmitters on the ground and ran coax to the

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 2.4 Ghz wireless radio and 145.410 repeater

2008-11-21 Thread Robert Pease
Sorry forgot we used light weight wire mesh antennas. If I remember right they where 2 foot wire mesh dishes. Only a couple of pounds Rob Sent by Good Messaging (www.good.com) -Original Message- From: Robert Pease [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 11:29 PM