Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: no power out of duplexer SOLVED with more questions - Thanks for the answers

2010-09-08 Thread Thomas Oliver
I agree. The users would not even notice if you cut the power in half. One 2 meter repeater we took over was running on the 10 watt exciter with the amp bypassed for I don't know how long. The caretaker before we got it bypassed the amp because of desense or intermod or self oscillation

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: no power out of duplexer SOLVED with more questions - Thanks for the answers

2010-09-08 Thread Chuck Kelsey
More likely he had the radio programmed wrong. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: MCH m...@nb.net To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 11:16 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: no power out of duplexer SOLVED with more questions - Thanks for

[Repeater-Builder] Wildfire at the Boulder, CO repeater site

2010-09-08 Thread Nate Duehr
Thought the RB list might be interested in this one. Here's a photo of one of our Colorado Repeater Association repeater sites near Boulder, CO Monday afternoon around 4PM. http://www.9news.com/9slideshows/09-06-10-Boulder-fire-aerials/9703.jpg (Sorry it's small, use your browser's zoom

[Repeater-Builder] schematic and/or pinout diagram, Maxar 80, D51TSA4000BK

2010-09-08 Thread KP3FT
Hi all, Does anyone have a scanned schematic and/or a pinout diagram for a Maxar 80 lowband? I moving one that is presently at 49.520 MHz, up to 50.065 MHz, but have no idea what the pins are for PTT, etc. There is no microphone or other cables that came with the radio. Thanks for any help.

[Repeater-Builder] Can't get Vertex VXR5000 to program

2010-09-08 Thread wspx472
I got this to work before but now, no joy. I am using CE8 software, have the correct cable, and an older DOS PC. I get either a box saying there was communication problems or it quickly flashes Done! but hasn't actually read the repeater. Is there some special trick I have forgotten?

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Can't get Vertex VXR5000 to program

2010-09-08 Thread Gary W. Gibbs
Read the repeater first NIMS: 100 200 300 400 700 800 Arrl Extra Class VE HAZ MAT- A O sent from my blackberry mobile device -Original Message- From: wspx472 wpxs...@gmail.com Sender: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 19:24:15 To:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Can't get Vertex VXR5000 to program

2010-09-08 Thread Maire-Radios
the last time that happened to me I needed a new cable. - Original Message - From: wspx472 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 3:24 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Can't get Vertex VXR5000 to program I got this to work before but

Re: [Repeater-Builder] schematic and/or pinout diagram, Maxar 80, D51TSA4000BK

2010-09-08 Thread George Henry
I know that they are available on the Batlabs site...  try http://www.batlabs.com/nosynth.html and scroll down to the Moxy section.  I believe that the pinouts for the Maxar, Maxar 80, and Moxy were all the same. George, KA3HSW / WQGJ From: KP3FT kp...@yahoo.com To:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] schematic and/or pinout diagram, Maxar 80, D51TSA4000BK

2010-09-08 Thread Jeff KP3FT
Hi George, Thanks for the reply.  I had downloaded the diagram for the Moxy earlier from that website, but discovered the connector is different for the Maxar 80.  Not sure if the pinout #s are the same though.  I could spend the money and get a manual, but that is another 20 dollars and more

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Can't get Vertex VXR5000 to program

2010-09-08 Thread wspx472
That's what I was trying to do. --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Gary W. Gibbs ke5...@... wrote: Read the repeater first NIMS: 100 200 300 400 700 800 Arrl Extra Class VE HAZ MAT- A O sent from my blackberry mobile device -Original Message- From: wspx472

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Can't get Vertex VXR5000 to program

2010-09-08 Thread Gary W. Gibbs
That has happened to me twice and I read it then it would program. Sorry it didn't help you. NIMS: 100 200 300 400 700 800 Arrl Extra Class VE HAZ MAT- A O sent from my blackberry mobile device -Original Message- From: wspx472 wpxs...@gmail.com Sender:

[Repeater-Builder] Wacom WP-639 Duplexer question

2010-09-08 Thread RichardK
Good evening, our club has a Wacom WP-639 four can duplexer as part of our repeater system. Input Fq is 147.915 and Output Fq is 147.315. We have a 600kHz (+) offset. Very simply, our main problem is when we run the transmitter at full power 100 watts, there is a HUGE desense on the receive

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Wacom WP-639 Duplexer question

2010-09-08 Thread Andrew Seybold
What repeater are you running? Is it a GE Mastr II by chance? Andy From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of RichardK Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 3:11 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Wacom

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wacom WP-639 Duplexer question

2010-09-08 Thread Ken Arck
At 03:11 PM 9/8/2010, RichardK wrote: Good evening, our club has a Wacom WP-639 four can duplexer as part of our repeater system. Input Fq is 147.915 and Output Fq is 147.315. We have a 600kHz (+) offset. Very simply, our main problem is when we run the transmitter at full power 100 watts,

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Wacom WP-639 Duplexer question

2010-09-08 Thread Ken Arck
At 04:38 PM 9/8/2010, Andrew Seybold wrote: What repeater are you running? Is it a GE Mastr II by chance? ---You hinting at the issue of Mastr II amp going spurious when the power is turned down too far? Ken --

Re: [Repeater-Builder] schematic and/or pinout diagram, Maxar 80, D51TSA4000BK

2010-09-08 Thread Jeff KP3FT
Hi George, If you don't mind going to the trouble, that would be great.  Just verifying if the pin number/functions are the same as the Moxy would be good because I already have the Moxy pinout. 73 Jeff KP3FT --- On Wed, 9/8/10, George Henry ka3...@att.net wrote: From: George Henry

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Wacom WP-639 Duplexer question

2010-09-08 Thread Richard Kelly
i'm at work right now--I will get that info tomorrow!! Rich K W2RRK x To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com From: aseyb...@andrewseybold.com Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 16:38:49 -0700 Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Wacom WP-639 Duplexer question What repeater are you running? Is

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wacom WP-639 Duplexer question

2010-09-08 Thread Kevin Custer
On 9/8/2010 6:11 PM, RichardK wrote: Good evening, our club has a Wacom WP-639 four can duplexer as part of our repeater system. Input Fq is 147.915 and Output Fq is 147.315. We have a 600kHz (+) offset. Very simply, our main problem is when we run the transmitter at full power 100

[Repeater-Builder] Possible to purchase IRLP node numbers for AllStar nodes to thus enable IRLP connections on AllStar system?

2010-09-08 Thread Kent Johnson
Bcc to 2010 VoIP Conference List -Original Message- From: David Cameron (IRLP) [mailto:dcame...@irlp.net] Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 7:56 AM To: Kent Johnson Subject: Re: Possible to purchase IRLP node numbers for AllStar Kent, the short answer is no. I have had far too many

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Wacom WP-639 Duplexer question

2010-09-08 Thread Eric Lemmon
I'm not surprised- you're asking too much of a duplexer that has four 5 cans. According to my CommShop program, a duplexer with an 80 dB spec is more suitable with transmitter power in the 10-15 watt range, assuming a solid-state PA and a receiver sensitivity around 0.35 uV at 12 dB SINAD. On a

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Wacom WP-639 Duplexer question

2010-09-08 Thread Richard Kelly
Good evening Eric, Maybe this is why when the trasmit power is dropped to the 20-50 watt range, the receive opens way up like it should. However, according to the spec sheets regarding the Wacom SP-639 Duplexer, it is rated for 200 watts. So, again, not sure what's going on. We will be

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Wacom WP-639 Duplexer question

2010-09-08 Thread Ken Arck
At 06:18 PM 9/8/2010, Richard Kelly wrote: We will be trying other things such as adding a second ground rod outside the shack instead of the single one we use now. We will also try isolating the amp some more and replacing the coax feed line with hard line. --That is a complete waste

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Wacom WP-639 Duplexer question

2010-09-08 Thread Mike Besemer (WM4B)
Rich, Eric speaks the truth. The will HANDLE 200 watts without arcing, etc, but do not provide nearly enough isolation at 600 KHz spacing to handle 100 watts. For a 35 watt transmitter, I run cans that provide around 96 dB of isolation. the 85 dB your cans can provide just ain't gonna cut

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wacom WP-639 Duplexer question

2010-09-08 Thread Joe
I'm afraid your wasting your time. According to the document for the Wacom 639 duplexer, this is what it says: MIN. FREQ. SPACING: 600 KHz POWER: TO 200 WATTS Notice that it says TO 200 watts. That would be if you were at 2MHz of spacing or more. You are only at 600KHz spacing, so you

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Wacom WP-639 Duplexer question

2010-09-08 Thread Richard Kelly
Hello again Ken, Thank you for replying with more info, we appreciate it. My email address if you want to get off this posting is w2...@arrl.net How would we go about providing MORE isolation than what we have done so far? Rich Kelly W2RRK x To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Wacom WP-639 Duplexer question

2010-09-08 Thread no6b
At 9/8/2010 18:24, you wrote: At 06:18 PM 9/8/2010, Richard Kelly wrote: We will be trying other things such as adding a second ground rod outside the shack instead of the single one we use now. We will also try isolating the amp some more and replacing the coax feed line with hard

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wacom WP-639 Duplexer question

2010-09-08 Thread NORM KNAPP
I got a set of 4 sinclair cans, like a Q202g on a GE mastr II running 100 watts with pll exciter and GE preamp with no desense. Antenna is roughly 300' away fed with LDF7-50A. Is this a miracle or typical? - Original Message - From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wacom WP-639 Duplexer question

2010-09-08 Thread Scott Zimmerman
Rich, The short answer is: You need to find a bigger duplexer. Four 8 cans would work well such as a Wacom WP-641. You could simply call and order one if Wacom was still in business. (RIP) Unfortunately Tx/Rx bought them years ago for the name and to quash competition. They can be found

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Wacom WP-639 Duplexer question

2010-09-08 Thread Ken Arck
At 08:21 PM 9/8/2010, n...@no6b.com wrote: Replacing copper-braided coax with RG-214 or hardline is hardly a waste of time. --Notice I said: More grounding and replacing coax with hardline (unless your coax isn't doubleshield to start with) will buy you nothing. I was assuming he wasn't

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Wacom WP-639 Duplexer question

2010-09-08 Thread Jeff DePolo
The PLL exciter is why you're having such good success running a 4-cavity duplexer. If you had a PM exciter, chances are you'd be experiencing desense. The PLL exciter produces about 22 dB less noise at 600 kHz offset, reducing the noise supression requirement of the duplexer by a like amount.

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Wacom WP-639 Duplexer question

2010-09-08 Thread burkleoj
Rich, While there have been a lot of good suggestions thrown at you, you are fighting an uphill battle without knowing the spec's that were obtained when the duplexer was re-tuned the last time or finding someone with a tracking generator or network analyzer to verify the duplexer tuning.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Possible to purchase IRLP node numbers for AllStar nodes to thus enable IRLP connections on AllStar system?

2010-09-08 Thread Kris Kirby
On Wed, 8 Sep 2010, Kent Johnson wrote: Bcc to 2010 VoIP Conference List -Original Message- From: David Cameron (IRLP) [mailto:dcame...@irlp.net] Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 7:56 AM To: Kent Johnson Subject: Re: Possible to purchase IRLP node numbers for AllStar Kent,

[Repeater-Builder] 6 Meter Repeater

2010-09-08 Thread Charles Rader
I am tossing around the idea of building a 6 meter repeater. This will have to be single site if I do this. What are you guys using for the repeater, duplexer, and antenna? Thanks, Charles KC5DGC