Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor UHF Sensivity

2010-09-07 Thread Milt
would actually improve the overall sensitivity since the radio was being tested while receiving audio. Milt N3LTQ - Original Message - From: Tim Sawyer To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 3:48 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor UHF

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor UHF Sensivity

2010-09-07 Thread Tim Sawyer
Yes, meter 4 shows the channel element is on frequency. If by IF alignment you mean injecting 11.7 Mhz and setting meter 4 to zero, yes I checked that. It was not far off. -- Tim :wq On Sep 7, 2010, at 9:11 AM, Milt wrote: Is the meter 4 circuit showing that the channel element is on

[Repeater-Builder] Micor UHF Sensivity

2010-09-06 Thread Tim Sawyer
I have a Micor base that was manufactured in the ham band. Model is C64RXB3196A-SP71. The receiver model number is TRE1241A-SP10 (420-450 Mhz). It came with 4 channels all tuned up and on frequency in the ham band. But the receiver is sensitivity is .72 mv for 20 db quieting on the best channel

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Micor UHF Sensivity

2010-09-06 Thread Eric Lemmon
-Builder] Micor UHF Sensivity I have a Micor base that was manufactured in the ham band. Model is C64RXB3196A-SP71. The receiver model number is TRE1241A-SP10 (420-450 Mhz). It came with 4 channels all tuned up and on frequency in the ham band. But the receiver is sensitivity is .72 mv for 20 db

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor UHF Sensivity

2010-09-06 Thread Tim Sawyer
Eric, It's 0.72 microvolts. Not totally dead, just a bit numb. -- Tim :wq On Sep 6, 2010, at 10:24 AM, Eric Lemmon wrote: Please confirm that you measured the sensitivity as 0.72 millivolts, or 720 uV

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor UHF Sensivity

2010-09-06 Thread Chuck Kelsey
WB2EDV - Original Message - From: Tim Sawyer tisaw...@gmail.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 1:11 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Micor UHF Sensivity I have a Micor base that was manufactured in the ham band. Model is C64RXB3196A-SP71. The receiver

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Micor UHF Sensivity

2010-09-06 Thread Eric Lemmon
, September 06, 2010 10:29 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor UHF Sensivity Eric, It's 0.72 microvolts. Not totally dead, just a bit numb. -- Tim :wq On Sep 6, 2010, at 10:24 AM, Eric Lemmon wrote: Please confirm that you measured the sensitivity

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor UHF Sensivity

2010-09-06 Thread Glenn (Butch) Kanvick
Hello Tim. I think the specs on your Micor are 402-430, But I could be wrong. What freq was it crystalled on before you retuned it? Also what is the frequency you tuned it on now? That gives us better information as to where it was and where you tuned it to. Butch, KE7FEL/r On Mon, Sep 6, 2010

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor UHF Sensivity

2010-09-06 Thread Oz-in-DFW
Stuff to try: 1. Verify that the LO multiplier chain is peaked correctly. I've seen a bunch of these that exhibit this symptom that had mistuned LO chains. 2. Feed the test signal into the RX directly. If you see good sensitivity, you know where to looks ;-) 3. Take

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor UHF Sensivity

2010-09-06 Thread Tim Sawyer
I'm getting about 0.35 for 12 db SINAD. But that looks about 10 db quieting to me. What I typically do is open the squelch with no signal and set the volume to 2 Vac then crank up the signal to 0.2 vac. Isn't that 20 db, or am I missing something? -- Tim :wq On Sep 6, 2010, at 10:46 AM, Eric

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor UHF Sensivity

2010-09-06 Thread John J. Riddell
2V AC down to .2 v. AC is 20 DB quieting John VE3AMZ - Original Message - From: Tim Sawyer To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 3:48 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor UHF Sensivity I'm getting about 0.35 for 12 db SINAD

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor UHF Sensivity

2010-09-06 Thread Tim Sawyer
Yea, I think 20 db quieting is more like 0.175 uV 12 db SINAD. -- Tim :wq On Sep 6, 2010, at 12:52 PM, John J. Riddell wrote: 2V AC down to .2 v. AC is 20 DB quieting

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor UHF Sensivity

2010-09-06 Thread Tim Sawyer
: 2V AC down to .2 v. AC is 20 DB quieting John VE3AMZ - Original Message - From: Tim Sawyer To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 3:48 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor UHF Sensivity I'm getting about 0.35 for 12 db SINAD. But that looks

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Micor UHF Sensivity

2010-09-06 Thread Jeff DePolo
Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 6:07 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor UHF Sensivity The Micor book says less than 0.5 uV for 20db quieting or 0.35 for 12 db SINAD. So the two are in fact equivalent. I get better than 0.35 for 12 db SINAD

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor UHF Sensivity

2010-09-06 Thread Tim Sawyer
I have tried with 3 volt meters and 2 SINAD meters: a Fluke 77, a Sinadder 3 (SINAD AC voltmeter) and a HP8924c. Pretty much same results with all. That is 20 db quieting around 0.7 uV, SINAD around 0.35. So what's the recommended meter? Should I trust the SINAD reading and chock the quieting

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Micor UHF Sensivity

2010-09-06 Thread Jeff DePolo
I have tried with 3 volt meters and 2 SINAD meters: a Fluke 77, a Sinadder 3 (SINAD AC voltmeter) and a HP8924c. Pretty much same results with all. That is 20 db quieting around 0.7 uV, SINAD around 0.35. So what's the recommended meter? Should I trust the SINAD reading and chock the

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Micor UHF Sensivity

2010-09-06 Thread Eric Lemmon
@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Sawyer Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 4:00 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor UHF Sensivity I have tried with 3 volt meters and 2 SINAD meters: a Fluke 77, a Sinadder 3 (SINAD AC

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor UHF Sensivity

2010-09-06 Thread Tim Sawyer
: [Repeater-Builder] Micor UHF Sensivity Here you go Jeff. Let me know what you see.

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Micor UHF Sensivity

2010-09-06 Thread Eric Lemmon
DePolo Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor UHF Sensivity Yes, it is a DVP station. I have the DVP manual and I just checked the spec. It's the same 0.5 uV for 20 dBQ. The test procedure does say to load the speaker. I'll give that a try tomorrow. -- Tim :wq On Sep 6, 2010, at 8:17 PM, Jeff