Re: [Repeater-Builder] Caution on Bomar Crystals

2005-05-13 Thread Kevin Custer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I stand corrected. I just confirmed this by calling Bomar. They do have a $60.00 minumum, but that includes the shipping so 2 channel elements in most cases will meet the minimum. Steve WA6ZFT Their Land Mobile pricing can be seen here:

Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Caution on Bomar Crystals

2005-05-12 Thread Bob Dengler
At 5/11/2005 03:19 PM, you wrote: Expensive: Mototola Mitrek recrystal and tempco at ICM: $50.00/element. Bomar is $35.00. West is appx. $32.00. There was a debate regarding West Crystal's alleged temperature compensation a week or two ago on here. Check the archives - I forget the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Caution on Bomar Crystals

2005-05-12 Thread Kevin Custer
Expensive: Mototola Mitrek recrystal and tempco at ICM: $50.00/element. Bomar is $35.00. West is appx. $32.00. There was a debate regarding West Crystal's alleged "temperature compensation" a week or two ago on here. Check the archives - I forget the conclusion, if

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Caution on Bomar Crystals

2005-05-12 Thread Paul Holm
Interesting. When I sent a pair of GE ECs in to Bomar recently, they quoted me $35 a piece. When I got the invoice, they charged me $25 for one, and $35 for the other. - Original Message - Expensive: Mototola Mitrek recrystal and tempco at ICM: $50.00/element. Bomar

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Caution on Bomar Crystals

2005-05-12 Thread Kevin Custer
Paul Holm wrote: Interesting. When I sent a pair of GE ECs in to Bomar recently, they quoted me $35 a piece. When I got the invoice, they charged me $25 for one, and $35 for the other. Was one a FM TX ICOM? Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Caution on Bomar Crystals

2005-05-12 Thread Paul Holm
I don't think so. RX EC PL19A129393G7TX EC PL19A129393G17 - Original Message - From: Kevin Custer Interesting. When I sent a pair of GE ECs in to Bomar recently, they quoted me $35 a piece. When I got the invoice, they charged me $25

Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Caution on Bomar Crystals

2005-05-12 Thread hwstar
PROTECTED] Date: 2005/05/12 Thu PM 02:30:17 EDT To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Caution on Bomar Crystals Expensive: Mototola Mitrek recrystal and tempco at ICM: $50.00/element. Bomar is $35.00. West is appx. $32.00. There was a debate

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Caution on Bomar Crystals

2005-05-12 Thread Paul Finch
reversal! My job was done. Paul -Original Message-From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Kevin CusterSent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 1:30 PMTo: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Caution on Boma

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Caution on Bomar Crystals

2005-05-11 Thread mch
I've used several companies over the past 20+ years, and I've really only ever found one that I consider garbage. Some people like Jan, however. ;- Bomar was the supplier to GE for several years. That's where they bought all their crystals for the MPI (as well as several other models, I'm sure).

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Caution on Bomar Crystals

2005-05-11 Thread Paul Finch
not know what he's talking about. Paul WB5IDM -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Steve Rodgers Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 10:40 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Caution on Bomar Crystals Why

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Caution on Bomar Crystals

2005-05-11 Thread Steve Rodgers
-Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Steve Rodgers Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 10:40 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Caution on Bomar Crystals Why is it a common theme for some in this group

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Caution on Bomar Crystals

2005-05-11 Thread Bob Dengler
At 5/10/2005 08:40 PM, you wrote: Why is it a common theme for some in this group make a statement such as this?: If you cannot afford International, you cannot afford to put a repeater on the air. What a fine piece if discouragement this is for the people just learning to put a

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Caution on Bomar Crystals

2005-05-11 Thread DCFluX
When I use ICM I am usually charged $20 each rock for a 2-3 week cutting time. But if this is what evryone else charges I don't know where the Expensive label comes from. I used to use a company that charged $6 each, but there junk drifted about once a month. On 5/11/05, Bob Dengler [EMAIL

Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Caution on Bomar Crystals

2005-05-11 Thread hwstar
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Caution on Bomar Crystals When I use ICM I am usually charged $20 each rock for a 2-3 week cutting time. But if this is what evryone else charges I don't know where the Expensive label comes from. I used to use a company

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Caution on Bomar Crystals

2005-05-10 Thread Dexter McIntyre W4DEX
I understand your frustration Mark. However each time I've done a phone order from Bomar they have told me the total for the order while on the phone. They started the $50 minimum order several years ago but I don't see any mention of this on their web page. I've had a few problems with

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Caution on Bomar Crystals

2005-05-10 Thread Maire-Radios
we have ordered lots crystals from Bomar and they always work and with out problems. Just need to understand the price. Good is not always cheep. John - Original Message - From: Mark Boden [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 2:52 PM

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Caution on Bomar Crystals

2005-05-10 Thread Kevin Berlen, K9HX
-Good is not always cheep. Very, very true. That is why I always use ICM. I have a 100% satisfaction rating on every order I have ever placed with them. Recently, they even offered us a great quantity discount on some Minitor II crystals for our 2-meter repeater freq. In qty of 50 or more $3

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Caution on Bomar Crystals

2005-05-10 Thread Paul Finch
Mark, I am about to order crystals for 6 repeaters, was thinking about Bomar or Standard, can't afford International for obvious reasons. Glad you posted this, I will be very careful! Paul -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Caution on Bomar Crystals

2005-05-10 Thread Glenn Little WB4UIV
If you cannot afford International, you cannot afford to put a repeater on the air. Repeaters can get to be costly. Being a good neighbor is very cheap insurance. Poor crystals = being a possibly bad neighbor (causing interference or being off frequency). Good quality every thing in a

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Caution on Bomar Crystals

2005-05-10 Thread Steve Rodgers
Why is it a common theme for some in this group make a statement such as this?: If you cannot afford International, you cannot afford to put a repeater on the air. What a fine piece if discouragement this is for the people just learning to put a repeater together. Ham radio is all about

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Caution on Bomar Crystals

2005-05-10 Thread STeve Andre'
Probably because it's true. There are things you can skimp on in a repeater and get lesser performance, and there are things which if messed up cause all sorts of problems, for both the repeater users and others. A crystal is definitely one of the latter. Getting cheaper coax means degraded

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Caution on Bomar Crystals

2005-05-10 Thread Neil McKie
In my opinion, and I have participated in this for quite a number of years, if you like visiting your snow bound repeater site in the dead of winter because the transmitter crystal drifted off frequency, fine. Go ahead and buy the cheaper crystal. If you don't like visiting your