I have a friend running a 75W Micor UHF repeater and he needs
to operate it for a single user who uses regular PL tone. My
friend has a PL module installed on the Tone Squelch board in
I presume you mean audio-squelch board.
Does he need a single PL tone encoder card for the card cage?
Jeff DePolo wrote:
your input Mike
I don't have a real answer for you, but it's interesting that
I have had
the opposite experience with the two most recent Micor UHF stations I
put on-line. Both have a peak very near to 400 Hz, and roll
off several
dB/octave above that. Setting for
I know no one cares to see my graphs... But I posted another one anyways.
Thank you for this little nugget! I suspected the PL filter as well
Threw those resistors on tonight, and while the difference in response measured
is not that great, the difference to the ear is huge! This really
mzfb2001 wrote:
I was looking in the files section and may have missed it, but I am
looking to improve the transmit audio quality on my UHF transmiter.
I've noticed that the audio is lacking in lows its not tinny but its
not what I would call normal audio from a Micor. The audio
Jeff DePolo wrote:
I have had
the opposite experience with the two most recent Micor UHF stations I
put on-line. Both have a peak very near to 400 Hz, and roll
off several
dB/octave above that. Setting for 3 in/3 out @ 1KHz, I get
abt 4 out @
400 hz, and abt, oh, 1.5 or so at 3K.
Anyone
Message-
From: Kevin Custer kug...@kuggie.com
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, Nov 18, 2009 9:54 am
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor repeater audio
Jeff DePolo wrote:
I have had
he opposite experience with the two most recent Micor UHF stations I
ut on-line. Both
mzfb2001 wrote:
I was looking in the files section and may have missed it, but I am
looking to improve the transmit audio quality on my UHF transmiter.
I've noticed that the audio is lacking in lows its not tinny but its
not what I would call normal audio from a Micor. The audio levels and
on
Yes, I just measured mine out last week (again) and I believe I have the same
thing. I will measure it exactly tommorow and post my findings.
Tom
W9SRV
--- On Mon, 11/16/09, wd8chl wd8...@gmail.com wrote:
From: wd8chl wd8...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor repeater audio
smarter than me has a logical
explainationI'll wait to read it.
Tom
W9SRV
--- On Tue, 11/17/09, TGundo 2003 tgundo2...@yahoo.com wrote:
From: TGundo 2003 tgundo2...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor repeater audio
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, November 17
First if it is all stock. I would go through the cards and replace the
electrolytic caps in the audio path. Or just shot gun all the caps. As old
as they are it would be good.
I do this when I rebuild any micor or mastr repeater. I have a couple of
stock micors up and have them sounding fine.
mzfb2001 wrote:
I was looking in the files section and may have missed it, but I am looking
to improve the transmit audio quality on my UHF transmiter. I've noticed that
the audio is lacking in lows its not tinny but its not what I would call
normal audio from a Micor. The audio levels and
tahrens301 wrote:
Hi Folks,
I picked up a bunch of Micor repeaters today,
and as I figured, they have the TLD xxx4
receiver in them. (160-174mhz).
I know that to put on 2 meters, new resonators
some other stuff is required, but is it
necessary if I go down to 154?
I'm working on
tahrens301 wrote:
Hi Folks,
I picked up a bunch of Micor repeaters today,
and as I figured, they have the TLD xxx4
receiver in them. (160-174mhz).
I know that to put on 2 meters, new resonators
some other stuff is required, but is it
necessary if I go down to 154?
Yes, the
They might tune done. If not, try brass screws. I've used this to move
high splits to 2 meters.
tahrens301 wrote:
Hi Folks,
I picked up a bunch of Micor repeaters today,
and as I figured, they have the TLD xxx4
receiver in them. (160-174mhz).
I know that to put on 2 meters, new
--- El lun 16-feb-09, Ralph S. Turk w7...@comcast.net escribió:
De:: Ralph S. Turk w7...@comcast.net
Asunto: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater
A: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Fecha: lunes, 16 febrero, 2009, 3:28 pm
Neal
No, this repeater is going to NW Montana to be connected
Buenos dias requieroRetiranme del grupo y no recivir mas mensajes gracias
--- El lun 16-feb-09, Hector Ricaurte hectorricau...@yahoo.com.mx escribió:
De:: Hector Ricaurte hectorricau...@yahoo.com.mx
Asunto: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater
A: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Fecha
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater
Buenos dias requieroRetiranme del grupo y no recivir mas mensajes gracias
--- El lun 16-feb-09, Hector Ricaurte hectorricau...@yahoo.com.mx escribió:
De:: Hector Ricaurte hectorricau...@yahoo.com.mx
Asunto: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor
, 2009 5:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater
Ralph S. Turk wrote:
Kevin
Unified Chassis meaning TX on top
Control Shelf and Rx etc on bottom.
Most chassis' were set-up this way, so please read on - and answer again.
A Unified Chassis is a chassis that is not made up
Ralph,
Okay, I mis-understood. I thought the repeater that you are working on
was at your son's place.
Let me know when you want to get started and I'll try to walk you through.
Oh - one question, is it a Unified or Non Unified Chassis?
Kevin
Hi Kevin
This repeater I am working on is here
: Monday, February 16, 2009 6:05:27 AM GMT -07:00 U.S. Mountain Time
(Arizona)
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater
Ralph,
Okay, I mis-understood. I thought the repeater that you are working on was at
your son's place.
Let me know when you want to get started and I'll try to walk
...@comcast.net wrote:
From: Ralph S. Turk w7...@comcast.net
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, February 15, 2009, 10:36 PM
#yiv1042346347 p {margin:0;}
Hi Kevin
This repeater I am working on is here in Tucson.
I will have additional
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 7:43:03 AM GMT -07:00 U.S. Mountain Time
(Arizona)
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater
Hey Ralph is this Repeater going to be located at Star Pass Resorts? that
overlooks the Entire City of Tucson...
Nice Place
- Original Message -
From: Kevin Custer kug...@kuggie.com
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 6:05:27 AM GMT -07:00 U.S. Mountain Time
(Arizona)
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater
Ralph,
Okay, I mis-understood. I thought the repeater
Ralph S. Turk wrote:
Kevin
Unified Chassis meaning TX on top
Control Shelf and Rx etc on bottom.
Most chassis' were set-up this way, so please read on - and answer again.
A Unified Chassis is a chassis that _is not_ made up of separate
rack-mounted units. The Non Unified Chassis is exactly
: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater
Ralph S. Turk wrote:
Kevin
Unified Chassis meaning TX on top
Control Shelf and Rx etc on bottom.
Most chassis' were set-up this way, so please read on - and answer again.
A Unified Chassis is a chassis that is not made up of separate rack-mounted
units
FYI have a number UHF 460 to 470 band Unified chassis repeaters for sale
very low cost some working some for parts.
John
- Original Message -
From: Kevin Custer
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 5:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder
Ralph S. Turk wrote:
Hi Kevin and all
Looks like I found the problems.
Good. That was easy on my part... grin
Where do you pull the disc off for an external Squelch controller and
control system I have been using pin 15 of the RX connector on the
main board.
Pin 3 of the Audio Squelch
Where are they?,complete or parts?, cabinets? how many and how much?
Lance N2HBA
- Original Message -
From: Maire-Radios
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 6:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater
FYI have a number UHF 460
Message -
From: Captainlance
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 7:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater
Where are they?,complete or parts?, cabinets? how many and how much?
Lance N2HBA
- Original Message -
From: Maire
Ralph,
Do you have available an oscilloscope? If so, I'll try to walk you
through the station an resolve the issue.
Kevin Custer
Hi all.
I am working on a Micor repeater (not Mobile) and I am having problems
with the Squelch and Audio circuits. Actual original usage of the
Micor
for
his CE-6.
Thanks
Ralph
- Original Message -
From: Kevin Custer kug...@kuggie.com
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 7:52:44 AM GMT -07:00 U.S. Mountain Time
(Arizona)
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater
Ralph,
Do you have
Ralph,
Sounds good. I'll try to be available when you get the equipment to
your son.
Kevin
Hi Kevin
Yes I do. I built one micor repeater with no trouble last
summer. Worked like a charm. The only problem it is located in
Montana with my son, N7XVF where I can't get to it to make any
@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 5:11:32 PM GMT -07:00 U.S. Mountain Time
(Arizona)
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater
Ralph,
Sounds good. I'll try to be available when you get the equipment to your son.
Kevin
Hi Kevin
Yes I do. I built one micor repeater
Hi all.
I am working on a Micor repeater (not Mobile) and I am having problems with the
Squelch and Audio circuits. Actual original usage of the Micor repeater is
unknown.
The repeater will have an external controller.
The only module used is the Station Control modified per
If it were me, I'd suspect the LPF. Sweep it.
Chuck
WB2EDV
- Original Message -
From: Ralph S. Turk
To: Repeater-Builder
Cc: David Turk
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 11:36 AM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater
Hi All.
I am working on several Micor repeaters for use in
If I remember right, Motorola's spec is 92 watts out of the amplifier should
yield 75 watts out the back of the station. That translates into 0.9 dB
loss through the antenna network (isolator, LPF, etc.). Sounds like your 1
dB is about right...it may be a tenth or two higher since it's being
Selling off a old Motorola Micro UHF repeater...parts...TCN 1187A and TLN5649A
, with time out timer, encoder board, squelch, etc. Was recently retired from
commercial use, PA already sold, this is the transmitter and receiver boards to
make a complete repeater, was working when removed. ...
Ray (I think, hi)
On e-bay one often sees these manuals.
There are 2 manuals...one for the chassis that has the card info/schematics and
the radio or RF part. The last has the service info for the radio including
tuning.
Not sure what segment of the band your repeater is made for. Most were
-Builder] Micor repeater encoder and decoder boards
North, Ga., check QRZ.com.
--
Doug
N3DAB/WPRX486/WPJL709
Maire-Radios [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
=
where are you at?
- Original Message -
From: n3dab
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent
a set but you would have to come get the repeater they are in. I'm in the
Tampa Bay area of Florida.
John
- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Cc: Maire-Radios
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 6:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder
where are you at?
- Original Message -
From: n3dab
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 1:47 AM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Micor repeater encoder and decoder boards
I'm trying to locate a TLN5731A PL encoder board and a TRN6002A PL
North, Ga., check QRZ.com.
--
Doug
N3DAB/WPRX486/WPJL709
Maire-Radios [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
=
where are you at?
- Original Message -
From: n3dab
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 1:47 AM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder]
Eric and Joe,
Thank you for your replies. Assuming this repeater is in functioning
(or near-functioning order) on its current frequency (464.050), is it
possible to take it down to amateur frequencies? From what I read on
the repeater-builder website, it seems like the procedure
] On Behalf Of MCH
Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2008 9:48 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater - ID?
Actually, the 'RC' indicates a Micor Unified Chassis
and the 'B' indicates 120V AC Power source.
And the '1' listed as N/A means 25 kHz channel spacing
Mike,
I think you need to know the following:
The receiver is in the bottom of the unified chassis. It has a BNC
connector, you should find that on the left hand side facing from the
rear. The un-labled N (F) connector by the silver box is the
transmitter output. Commercial repeaters are
Mike,
The C64RCB-3105AT (I'm pretty sure the Y is actually a T) station is
described as:
C = Compa Station
64 = 75 watt output in the UHF band
RCB = Continuous Duty PA
3 = PL Tone-Coded Squelch
1 = N/A
0 = 1 TX and 1 RX
5 = DC Remote Control
AT = Repeater Station
You can get more information by
Actually, the 'RC' indicates a Micor Unified Chassis
and the 'B' indicates 120V AC Power source.
And the '1' listed as N/A means 25 kHz channel spacing for that band.
Joe M.
Eric Lemmon wrote:
Mike,
The C64RCB-3105AT (I'm pretty sure the Y is actually a T) station is
described as:
C =
Don't you have to ground the mic hangup lead?
On 11/6/07, Brian R. Chapman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Does anyone have a jpeg of where to add/delete a jumper to enable
PL decode on a micor repeater? The PL card is already installed!!!
Thanks, Brian nb9e
Yahoo! Groups Links
Have done a Micor repeater using the CAT-200 controller. It's really quite easy
to do. Pull all the cards except the Station Control and the F1 PL Decoder. A
mid split PA will work if the output is 147.00 but I don't think a high split
PA will last very long.
Strongly suggest if yours is
:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater
Have done a Micor repeater using the CAT-200 controller. It's really quite
easy to do. Pull all the cards except the Station Control and the F1 PL
Decoder. A mid split PA will work if the output is 147.00 but I don't think a
high split
Daniel M LePage wrote:
I have a Micor repeater that I can not get the CTCSS tone through the
receiver. I can get a good 1Khz tone but when I try and put a CTCSS
tone through the receiver it is broken up.
I did not convert this Micor and it will operate as a repeater with out
a CTCSS tone.
has this repeater ever worked ?
John
- Original Message -
From: Daniel M LePage
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 1:07 PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater can not use TS-64
I have a Micor repeater that I can not get the CTCSS
At 10:07 AM 3/6/2007, you wrote:
I have a Micor repeater that I can not get the CTCSS tone through the
receiver. I can get a good 1Khz tone but when I try and put a CTCSS
tone through the receiver it is broken up.
I did not convert this Micor and it will operate as a repeater with out
a CTCSS
At 10:07 AM 3/6/2007, you wrote:
I bet you're using a deemphasized audio output. For the TS-64, you
NEED to use discriminator (or other non-deemphasized audio source) in
order to decode CTCSS.
---Let me rephrase that (de emphasized audio really has nothing to
do with PL decoding). Are you
You need to feed your decoder with discriminator audio. The Micor
de-emphasized audio has little below 300 Hz,
Jack
K6YC
- Original Message -
From: Daniel M LePage
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 10:07 AM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Micor
Dan,
When a Micor station is equipped with a PL tone decoder, such as the
TRN6002A, a high-pass filter is inserted into the audio chain which blocks
any frequencies below about 300 Hz. Since the PL tone can cause problems if
it is allowed to pass through the receiver audio chain, it is usually
The only portions of what you have that WILL NOT move to 2M easily are the
receiver and the PA. The exciter that you have is a 150.8-174Mhz one. Most of
them will tune to 2M without any changes. If changes are needed, it's only to
make the last two slugs tune correctly. (Change 2 caps)
The
I am using a mitrek exciter at 1 watt to drive a Micor TLD1693D amp.
I have tuned it up and it is working great in the 147.xxx range. I
get approx 75 watts at 25 amps draw or so and 110 at 30 amps. I don't
have a Micor base/repeater manual, so I am wondering what current the
Motorola
Sean,
The TPN1110 power supply that is normally found in the 100 watt
Compa-Station is rated at 25 amperes. The fact that your PA is drawing 25
amps at 3/4 of its power rating indicates that it is not operating properly,
since it is out of band. It would be a good idea to run it at a lower
Don't count on it. You may still need to change a few caps. You'll know
if you get a stage that won't peak. And by that, I mean you need to get
to the peak and go past it, otherwise you are not really at the peak.
Chuck
WB2EDV
Mike Perryman wrote:
I have a quick question, which may be a
I agree with Chuck, and here is a GREAT source of 6M Micor information:
http://www.sasquatchnet.org/kb6mip/tech.html
Kevin
Chuck Kelsey wrote:
Don't count on it. You may still need to change a few caps. You'll know
if you get a stage that won't peak. And by that, I mean you need to get
to the
Mike Perryman wrote:
Yep.. I have that document... but I am having one hell of a time locating
the dipped micas of correct values... Digikey about 30% good, all common
values... and Newark is the same... the oddball values are near
impossible to locate.. ;-(
mike
Have you tried
Have you tried Motorola directly?
Kevin
Kevin brings up a Great point , Sometimes We assume that Motorola is
Extremely High for Parts, Manuals Etc, and found Cheaper on E-Pay, if you
can even find them, But pick up the phone and Call, I have actually found
them very receptive and helpful and
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Perryman
Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 2:15 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater Conversion question
Yep.. I have that document... but I am having one hell of a
time locating the dipped micas of correct
I suppose it has been done ... not by me though.
I have a few of the TPN1110A/B Power Supply here in two forms -
one of them being the 12 volt only version. You have to know what
you are looking for to be able to know what the ancestry is.
You might want to search the swapmeets
-Builder] Micor repeater power supply
I suppose it has been done ... not by me though.
I have a few of the TPN1110A/B Power Supply here in two forms -
one of them being the 12 volt only version. You have to know what
you are looking for to be able to know what the ancestry is.
You might
of the one I have (new) it is a TPN-1105A that has
the battery hook up for a Micro repeater 75 watt model
John
- Original Message -
From: Neil McKie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 8:55 AM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor
to protect them
Just a thought.. be creative!!
mike
-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Neil McKie
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 8:55 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor repeater
I think it is a TPN1105A, I have a spare somewhere... I think...
mike
At 05:05 PM 04/25/2005 -0700, you wrote:
Which Micor Power Supply?
Neil
John Place wrote:
Has anyone come up with a way to power the micor repeater with 12
volts? Would like to have a point in the power
If it is a TPN1105A, then the battery back-up is built in.
Connect your battery to the large terminal block on the back
through a 30 ampere fuse. Be careful to set the output voltage
of the power supply so you don't boil the battery.
I have one of those power supplies in service
It is a TPN1110B supply.
Neil McKie wrote:
Which Micor Power Supply?
Neil
John Place wrote:
Has anyone come up with a way to power the micor repeater with 12
volts? Would like to have a point in the power supply to hook 12
. volts to for battery backup.
I figured as much. Just thought someone may have come up with a way to
tap into the circuit and make it happen.
Neil McKie wrote:
That power supply wasn't designed for battery back-up use.
Neil - WA6KLA
John Place wrote:
It is a TPN1110B supply.
Neil McKie wrote:
there is a power supply that Motorola made for the Micor that will charge
the battery (12V) and them run the repeater when needed.
The last I knew a new one from Motorola was about $400. as I got one for a
job and still in stock. Also they may be got at a ham fest as I got a Micor
Which Micor Power Supply?
Neil
John Place wrote:
Has anyone come up with a way to power the micor repeater with 12
volts? Would like to have a point in the power supply to hook 12
. volts to for battery backup.
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racin3dude2001 wrote:
looking for repeater parts for a uhf micor.power supply,manual,etc..
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