Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Assistance in Michigan.

2006-01-06 Thread KFD29
In a message dated 1/6/2006 12:57:17 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: RG8 is not suitable for duplex operation. There is insufficient shielding and will most likely result inreceiver desense while the transmitter is operating. You might look back in the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Assistance in Michigan.

2006-01-06 Thread Larry Lockard
Bob, Sorry if I didn't get it right but now I am really confused and open to learn. Snip and paste Shielding percentage of the antenna feedline has nothing to do with duplex suitability. Somewhere I am missing something If shielding doesn't play a part in the suitability factor of

RE: [Repeater-Builder] had a little power supply trouble the other day...

2006-01-06 Thread Buley, Kenneth L \(GE Consumer Industrial\)
Maybe a lesson in proper fuse sizing is in order??? Nice clip! I think they call that a BLEVY!!! Actually, it's a BLEVE (Boiling Liquid Expanding Vapor Explosion for the non-firefighters in the group). Kenneth Buley Bullitt County EMA Deputy Director CD-2 Bullitt/Spencer

Re: [Repeater-Builder] cleaning electronics

2006-01-06 Thread Adam T. Cately
At 04:04 AM 1/5/06 -0800, you wrote: Adam T. Cately wrote: ... snip ... (No - I'm NOT from New Jersey - I just play one on TV.) It loses all the funny when you have to explain, but... In regard to the use of the made-up-word you'se - as in, Hey, you'se guys over dere

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater Funding

2006-01-06 Thread Dale Pratt
His Ham License Gives him the Right to put up a tower the city Doesn't have the right to govern comn. Only FCC. He can put a 200 ft tower if he wants. They might require him to have insurance. Dale N8SAC On 1/5/06 8:34 PM, Don [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re:Need to contact the moderator

2006-01-06 Thread Kevin Custer
Replied directly Com/Rad Inc - Ed Folta wrote: I wold like to hear from the moderator of Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email

[Repeater-Builder] MAXAR UHF radios for link.

2006-01-06 Thread Bruno Bouliane
Has anyone worked with Maxar uhf radios for linking. We're looking to install these radios asX-bandtransmit units for our voting system. We`re using GE Pheonix radios but would like totry True FM.. The Pheonixwere convenient because they are programmable. The Maxar`s would be set up with GE MVP

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Help / suggestion needed...feedback? on Mitrek

2006-01-06 Thread Jay Urish
I am experiencing the same thing on a GR500 Motorola repeater with a community tone panel and a 6 cavity mobile style duplexer. I suspect some sort of feedback. Scott wrote: I have a UHF repeater built out of a trunk mount Mitrek (Motrek), has CAT 250 controller, 3 can duplexer rated around

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Assistance in Michigan.

2006-01-06 Thread Jay Urish
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/6/2006 12:57:17 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: RG8 is not suitable for duplex operation. There is insufficient shielding and will most likely result in receiver desense while the transmitter is operating.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Assistance in Michigan.

2006-01-06 Thread Mathew Quaife
First, has the system ever performed better than this at any time? My nextstatement would be, and yes they are right about the 9913, but I would have to say that 9913 has nothing to do with shield, as it is a very good shielded cable, just that is presents metal to metal type substance and

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater Assistance in Michigan.

2006-01-06 Thread sgreact47
Aside from the poor quality feed line (coax cable) the Antenex FG series antnnas SUCK big time, especially in duplex operation. The FG series antennas are nothing but a 18 gauge copper coated steel wire with a few 'curlie cues' hidden in a plastic pipe. Monty and I did some tests a couple years

Re: [Repeater-Builder] MAXAR UHF radios for link.

2006-01-06 Thread Scannr
yup they work great for linking, however you will have to build a 2 transistor switch for COS and and keep the heatsink cool YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL

Re: [Repeater-Builder] had a little power supply trouble the other day...

2006-01-06 Thread DCFluX
Kinda looks like my homemade 4CX250B amplifier's power supply.On 1/6/06, Buley, Kenneth L (GE Consumer Industrial) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Maybe a lesson in proper fuse sizing is in order??? Nice clip! I think they call that a BLEVY!!!Actually, it's a BLEVE (Boiling Liquid

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Assistance in Michigan.

2006-01-06 Thread KFD29
In a message dated 1/6/2006 9:13:32 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: First, has the system ever performed better than this at any time? My nextstatement would be, and yes they are right about the 9913, but I would have to say that 9913 has nothing to do with

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Help / suggestion needed...feedback? on Mitrek

2006-01-06 Thread Stephen Rice
Scott this may have nothing to do with it but I have a similar problem with a micor repeater and ICS M controller. It caused me to keep checking audio circuits etc looking for the problem. I then discovered that when I turned the power control down to a certain spot the problem would start and

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Assistance in Michigan.

2006-01-06 Thread no6b
At 1/6/2006 01:34, you wrote: Bob, Sorry if I didn't get it right but now I am really confused and open to learn. Snip and paste Shielding percentage of the antenna feedline has nothing to do with duplex suitability. Somewhere I am missing something If shielding doesn't play a part

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater Assistance in Michigan.

2006-01-06 Thread Dave VanHorn
We are up 27.0m, but have an HAAT of 16.4m 3dB gain antenna, and you know the feedline :) What could you expect our max range to be w/ handhelds? There's a free program called Radio Mobile that will show you this sort of thing, taking into account the actual terrain.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Assistance in Michigan.

2006-01-06 Thread Jay Urish
Just as a point of reference, I have a UHF machine Moto MSF5000 pumping out 90watts going up 170 ft of LMR400 coax and I get great results. To make it more interesting, I have a comet duplexer at the feedpoint (in my station) so I can use the VHF part of the fiberglass dual band wonderstick as

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola GP-300 Charger

2006-01-06 Thread Mike Pugh
Don wrote: I just wonder how many of the chargers I have seen at the Hamfest Not Working if this was the Problem, But Hey wait a Minuit is this Some Big Secret that no one wanted to share because the Motorola Shops, Dealers Just Sell the Customer a New One after all the Case dos not come

[Repeater-Builder] Bomar and price increase.

2006-01-06 Thread Kevin Custer
Just an FYI: My latest order from Bomar cost me $35 each ($70 for 2) for recrystaling and TC'ing, not including shipping I phoned them and they informed me of the price increase, even though the website still states $25 each. Oh well, ICM wants about $125 for redoing a pair so I guess it's

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Help / suggestion needed...feedback? on Mitrek

2006-01-06 Thread skipp025
Some type of bypass or sub controller would be a handy way to remove the controller from the list of suspects. You need to isolate the problem from the radio, the controller or the paths back and forth. skipp Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a UHF repeater built out of a trunk

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Assistance in Michigan.

2006-01-06 Thread Mike Perryman
Jay, I am curious how long the LMR-400 (feed-line up the tower)has been in service? mike -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jay Urish Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 11:52 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Assistance in Michigan.

2006-01-06 Thread Mathew Quaife
What are you calling great results? At best my UHF at 100' on a handheld with a 6 dB gain antenna gives me about 7 to 8 miles of range, considered usable, fed with 1/2" hardline. At 170 ft of LMR 400 you would have nearly a 3.5 dB of loss in just the cable.Mathew Jay Urish [EMAIL

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexer for sale

2006-01-06 Thread Mark Lacy
I live in E. Texas $475.00 + shipping Thanks - Mark W5TXR From: Steve Polley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexer for sale Date: Sun, 01 Jan 2006 01:21:06 -0600 $100?? Live in

[Repeater-Builder] Excellant packing job by Repeater Builder member Jerry WB6NYS

2006-01-06 Thread roger.white
Just wanted to let everyone know I bought a piece of equipment from Jerry, WB6NYS, who is on this forum. The stuff arrived in excellent condition and the packaging was outstanding. Many thanks again Jerry! Roger W5RD Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Assistance in Michigan.

2006-01-06 Thread Bob Dengler
At 1/6/2006 08:52 AM, you wrote: Just as a point of reference, I have a UHF machine Moto MSF5000 pumping out 90watts going up 170 ft of LMR400 coax and I get great results. I have a temporary installation being fed with ~45' of LMR400 (originally bought for my portapeater) have no duplexing

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Assistance in Michigan.

2006-01-06 Thread Jay Urish
About 4 years. This is the tower in my backyard. Its Rohn25g 72ft+19ft mastpipe. One correction, its actually LMR400UF(ultra-flex). Gotta do the rotor loop! Mike Perryman wrote: Jay, I am curious how long the LMR-400 (feed-line up the tower)has been in service? mike -Original

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Assistance in Michigan.

2006-01-06 Thread Jay Urish
I can work the UHF machine 40miles away with a mobile and 50-60on the VHF side. Bear in mind that my backyard is 660 or so ASL. Mathew Quaife wrote: What are you calling great results? At best my UHF at 100' on a handheld with a 6 dB gain antenna gives me about 7 to 8 miles of range,

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater Funding

2006-01-06 Thread Chuck Kelsey
Hams that have had an easy time co-locating equipment at various sites often time do not begin to realize just how lucky they are. In many parts of the country, sites are extremely difficult to come by and keep. Municipal sites can be a real challenge because of liability and security

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Follow up from the original thread ??

2006-01-06 Thread ANTHONY
A FRIEND OF MINE HAS A MOTOROLA MICOR VHF-MOBILE, IT HAS BEEN HAVING A PROBLEM WITH SQUEALLING, AND I THINK I KNOW WHAT IS MAKING THE NOISE PROBLEM, AS I HAVE NOTICED WHEN THIS IS OCCURRING, THE TRANSMITTER ON THE UNIT IS FLICKERING ON AND OFF, WHEN NOT MAKING NOISE, IT SEEMS TO BE WORKING

[Repeater-Builder] Kenwood TKB-720 CPU failure

2006-01-06 Thread byronhham
Hi All I have a TKB-720 base VHF radio. I have apparently killed the CPU. It was working fine and I added a wire to bring the unfiltered audio to the rear panel connector. I added the wire on the control board. But it is murphy's day today. This is the most serious of several things that have

RE: [Repeater-Builder] had a little power supply trouble the other day...

2006-01-06 Thread N9WYS
Or as we used to say when I was a volunteer Firefighter: Blast Leveling Everything Very Effectively. Hehehe Mark - N9WYS -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Buley, Kenneth L (GE Consumer Industrial) Sent: Friday, January 06,

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Assistance in Michigan.

2006-01-06 Thread James
Bob Dengler wrote: At 1/6/2006 08:52 AM, you wrote: Just as a point of reference, I have a UHF machine Moto MSF5000 pumping out 90watts going up 170 ft of LMR400 coax and I get great results. I have a temporary installation being fed with ~45' of LMR400 (originally bought for my

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater Funding

2006-01-06 Thread Mathew Quaife
In the two cases of tower owners that I called, they wanted $800.00 a month, and required a 5 million dollar insurance policy. A certainty that we would walk away.Mathew Chuck Kelsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hams that have had an easy time co-locating equipment at various sites often time

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater Funding

2006-01-06 Thread Mike Perryman K5JMP
That, Gentlemen, is called "pricing yourself out of the market". A tactic used when they just don't want to be bothered.. mike -Original Message-From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Mathew QuaifeSent: Friday, January 06, 2006 5:13

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater Funding

2006-01-06 Thread Bob M.
The FM tower I'm on wants $400/mo and $1M to $3M of insurance in case an antenna falls and disrupts anything further down the tower, which right now isn't critical. They won't let a client do any of their own tower work, so they have to pay their riggers. I was lucky and managed to be in the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Assistance in Michigan.

2006-01-06 Thread Larry Lockard
Thanks for the feedback Bob Group here is a great place to get a better understanding :-)) Tnx Larry - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 8:33 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Assistance in

[Repeater-Builder] Re: MAXAR UHF radios for link.

2006-01-06 Thread ve3ext
Any chance to see the circuit of this two trans. cos switch? Tnx Jerry VE3 EXT Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater Funding

2006-01-06 Thread Chuck Kelsey
No it's not. They'll easily get that amount. Just not from hams. Chuck Mike Perryman K5JMP wrote: That, Gentlemen, is called pricing yourself out of the market. A tactic used when they just don't want to be bothered.. mike -Original Message- *From:*

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Kenwood TKB-720 CPU failure

2006-01-06 Thread Coy Hilton
DId you try a full reset of the radio...that might help. I would try it before replacing it. --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, byronhham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All I have a TKB-720 base VHF radio. I have apparently killed the CPU. It was working fine and I added a wire to

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater Funding

2006-01-06 Thread Mike Mullarkey
Hi to all, First thing you need to know is that if you looking for a site. Go in present the system as an emergency communications system. Many of us are affiliated with the Red Cross aren't you? If you are not do so. The Red Cross system has had a very easy time to locate on prime sites. Also

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: MAXAR UHF radios for link.

2006-01-06 Thread Scannr
it's on the repeater builder site, same thing in a mitrek conversion YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo!

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater Funding

2006-01-06 Thread no6b
At 1/6/2006 18:03, you wrote: No it's not. They'll easily get that amount. Just not from hams. Chuck Not around here. Many buildings are emptying out following massive rent hikes. Bob NO6B Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to:

[Repeater-Builder] OT: FT-8900 help

2006-01-06 Thread no6b
The output power of my Yaesu FT-8900 quad bander has dropped to 0.25 watts, regardless of power setting. 10, 6 2 meter TX output is nominal (5/10/20/50 watts). Current draw on UHF TX is 4.8 amps, again regardless of output power setting. The final device in the radio is a broadband power

[Repeater-Builder] Re: had a little power supply trouble the other day...

2006-01-06 Thread Laryn Lohman
What happens to a non-continuous duty transmitter in repeater service. Laryn K8TVZ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *