On Jul 26, 2008, at 3:33 PM, Michael Ryan wrote:
This is a test message. I joined this wonderful group but my
messages have been deemed fit for posting it appears. -Mike
I think you meant to say have NOT been deemed fit for posting, as a
complaint but your messages (all three of them)
Nate,
I fully agree. Many new HAM's get A scanner to monitor the local going ons
(Police, Fire Dept's, etc), or In our area, To monitor SKYWARN during severe
weather. Many soon discover there is traffic at times other than bad weather
and become interested. Maybe they catch A weekly or daily
So... I tuned a spare can as a notch (~19db) at freq X and intend to
place it in-line with the Radius in hopes of removing (lowering) the
level of freq X getting into the Radius transmitter. A 20 dB
reduction should reduce the intermod by 40 dB IF the mixing is
happening in the Radius.
I
I drained some out of a 7/8 line..
Paul
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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Brown
Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 10:51 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Storm Damage
Don, the guys in Live Oak
I know these stations have jumpers all over the place -
backplane, cards,
etc. - that all needed to be configured properly for the
thing to work the
way it should. I have the manuals, but I am stumped. I know
I'm missing
something, SOMEWHERE - my problem is: WHAT and WHERE?
Could be
Hi, Jeff - and thanks for the quick reply.
The number on the backplane does NOT match - but don't ask me what it is,
because I'm at work and can't get to the station right now. I should be
home by 3PM CDT, so I can post it then if necessary. I do know these were
repeater station originally, not
Correction, I actually vacuumed it out with a industrial strength vacuum
pump. I bought it several years ago for $180.00, new they sold for
$1200.00. I lucked out.
If you just let it drain it will not get all the moisture out, you have to
use some kind of pump to put a vacuum on the line
Mark;
You need the supplemental manual that covers the community
repeater..68-81XXXE25 is the number if memory serves
The backplane for a CR was unique, as I recall, and trying to work on wone
without the book is an experience in frustration
As for your missing TX PL, you are missing a
OK gang, I'm working on another project and have run into a wall.
I have a UHF MICOR Unified chassis station that I am reassembling with the
thought of putting it on GMRS once finished. Yes, this station was TOTALLY
disassembled and scattered to the four winds - chassis, PA and some cards
came
pump it down, fill it with dry nitrogen, re-pump, repeat several times
just like an AC system
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From: Paul Finch
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 9:26 AM
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Storm Damage
Correction, I
Hi Mark
I have built a few of these from subs not necessarilloy from the same station
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Not always a good idea.
Sounds l ike you have everyting in the right place(s) --
With equipment this old you're up against
(1) Possible modifciation from previous interventions
(2) aging of edge
Mark,
It sounds like you may be missing the modifications on the
interconnect boards for and squelch. If the audio/squelch board has
been modified for and squelch and the interconnct board changes have
not been made, you will have repeat audio in PL Disable or carrier
squelch mode and no repeat
I have some copper pipe that is 6 inches in diameter and about 60 inches long.
This came from the filters on a 25 Kw channel 4 TV transmitter.
Would these work for a 6 meter repeater?
I am thinking that they are a little short in both length and diameter.
The feedline for the TV transmitter was
I was aware that there might be previous modifications. I have 14 of these
chassis I picked up from the same source, so I have been comparing them as I
go along to watch for issues like that. The only thing I have found so far
is two or three of them were modified for connection to an external
Thanks Joe!
Like I wrote earlier, it appears I'm going to have problems finding the
Community Repeater supplement... If you can help me with that, I'd be much
obliged!
I actually have several 4-User Control cards and more tone reeds, so I could
potentially have up to maybe 10 or 12 PL codes
I think the title said 'Instruction Manual-Supplemental'
in smaller print 'For use with Manual 68-xx'
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From: n9wys
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 11:22 AM
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] UHF MICOR Unified Chassis
Thanks Gary.
I did a search at Motorola parts for a manual starting with 68-81 and got
over 2600 responses. Of course, the suffix of E25 was not included in any
of the responses. The majority of the available manuals were for newer
series Astro products.
All of the responses I checked
I see that I can disable the various tones via switches
on the front of the card, but as it sits right now, I can only disable ONE
of the tones - the others decode and the repeater keys whether the switch is
on or off.
=
I think you may not have a CR back-plane
no, the second line said 'Must be used in conjunction with Manual 68-x'
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From: Gary Glaenzer
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 11:42 AM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] UHF MICOR Unified Chassis
I think the title
Well, that got me 6 responses, but nothing like what I need. or maybe. The
one that MIGHT be what I need reads: MAN INSTR FASC SUPPLEMENT It is item #
6881074C55
But I'm only guessing at this stage.
Mark - N9WYS
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of Gary Glaenzer
Tom and all,
Since the list postings on this topic have moved on, let's let well enough
alone. If you feel that I am infringing on your 1st amendment rights; by all
means say your peace. To be honest, I have not kept up with this thread
enough to know what's going on. I have been busy with
At 11:51 AM 7/27/2008, you wrote:
Its' summer time for Christ's sake. Let's put up antennas, let's build
machines. APRS could always use a bit more coverage. D-Star is popping up in
a big way... Let's find something more productive to do than pick on each
other's mother.
Amen and amen ... and
Mark,
If you're not going to use your repeater as a community repeater, then you
don't need the community repeater supplement. There are two Motorola
manuals that you do need:
6881025E50 UHF Station Instruction manual, NLA
6881025E60 Control Applications Supplement, NLA
Since both of these
Thanks, Eric.
I'm not sure whether I need the Community Repeater supplement to configure
it to work with the 4-User Control card... In any event, I just found one
at everyone's favorite auction site, so I picked it up. If I don't need it,
I can add it to my library for future reference.
I
At 01:03 PM 7/27/2008, you wrote:
If you're not going to use your repeater as a community repeater, then you
don't need the community repeater supplement.
The only problem is that the community repeater station has a different
backplane than a regular Micor station does. If he in fact has the
Excellent! When you get that Community Repeater manual in hand, and if it
is clean and complete, please consider loaning it to the Repeater-Builder
support staff for full-page scanning into PDF. Please contact me directly
at mycall at verizon dot net for the details. Please identify your manual
Agreed. My statement was based on my very limited exposure to community
repeaters, all of which were based upon standard Micor stations with
TLN5644A backplanes and connected to Zetron or CSI controllers. What is the
part number for the community repeater backplane? The only other station
Here is a positive note, to cap off several negative vibes that have
been flowing lately.
Here is a simple system built with my very basic knowlege, enhanced by
this list, the RBTIP site, and first hand help from Scott.
I realize it's nothing special. Just an example of the fine service
provided
Nate Duehr wrote:
Sorry Tom. I guess you missed that last paragraph of the post. I
guess you think I'm out to cause you harm in some way that a delete
key won't remedy? Don't be mad. It's e-mail for goodness sakes.
Serious question:
Do you filter mailing lists into folders so
The length is fine for 6-meter cans. Diameter could be larger, I suppose,
but worth a try. Worst case you'll need to use 6 cans. But you might get
away with 4 (I'm talking in BP-BR configuration).
Chuck
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From: Glenn Little WB4UIV [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:
Hi you all, here PU1BZZ Alexandre, from Brazil
Ok, The repeater builder is a great site (and a BIG thanks for all
involved, I donated and encourage all to donate at least a dollar. If all of
us donate 10 dollars/month to the sites who help us, what a great net this
would be, what is
In a message dated 7/27/2008 10:00:58 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
If you wouldn't say this - IN THIS WAY - at grandma's dinner table -
then don't say it here - or in this way ...
FIND A CIVIL WAY TO SAY IT - or leave it alone.
Why, when you can have it both
Hi Mark:
Pull the exciter board out and measure the resistance between pins
one and five on the transmitter interconnect board. There should be
infinite resistance between the two pins. If there is continuity
between pins one and five on the transmitter interconnect board, cut
the trace on
There are no 1st amendment rights on a private
list. It's what you want to allow - period.
Joe M.
Scott Zimmerman wrote:
Tom and all,
Since the list postings on this topic have moved on, let's let well enough
alone. If you feel that I am infringing on your 1st amendment rights; by all
A few years ago I remember that a professional voice-over talent was doing
on-request voice-over work (maybe was even a ham) with a price break for ham
radio announcements.
Anyone know who Im talking about? I think he was from the Carolinas, but
Im not sure.
Any leads would be
I trust you plan to do this with the Radius owner's blessing, and with him
present?
If not, DON'T touch his radio or feedline - you're setting yourself up for a
world of legal trouble if he has problems down the line!
73,
George, KA3HSW / WQGJ413
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From: Bill
Rod,
I use RadioDaddy and usually get good results very quickly.
Just make sure you specify no music/special effects.
73,
Mike
WM4B
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rod Lane
Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 4:03 PM
To:
If you’re real nice, Fred will do it for you ~ :-)
Contact him here - http://www.qrz.com/w8hdu
Fred is in Lima, Ohio
De W6CBS – Bill Hudson - California
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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rod Lane
Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008
Before cutting any traces, perhaps it would be a good idea to identify which
backplane Mark has. If the jumpers are numbered differently than on the
common TLN5644A backplane, it's probably wired quite differently. Since
Mark described his repeater as being cobbled together from different
At 08:50 7/27/2008, Glenn Little WB4UIV wrote:
I have some copper pipe that is 6 inches in diameter and about 60
inches long.
Would these work for a 6 meter repeater?
I agree they could be a bit longer (about 38% longer), but this stuff
is over $100 per foot. Better to get one and a half
On Sun, 27 Jul 2008, Rod Lane wrote:
A few years ago I remember that a professional voice-over talent was
doing on-request voice-over work (maybe was even a ham) with a price
break for ham radio announcements.
Not a ham, but who can resist a woman's voice on a repeater:
At 12:10 7/27/2008, Alexandre Souza wrote:
How to build a small group repeater in a very tight budget?
Listening to all your restrictions, Alexandre, I would try to get
access to two towers at least a couple of kilometers (5-10km would be
even better) apart and put in a 1.2m or 70cm link
OK - I'm now home from work and have had an opportunity to look at the
station. The backplane has the following number printed on it: TRN6421A
Motorola parts identifies it as: BD INTCONN --- *This item has been
cancelled
This is all I can seem to find about it right now...
And Eric, these are
Luckily the W4BOC club repeaters captured Jane Barbe before she passed.
She was also a guest at a club meeting. She introduced herself from the
back of the room on a wireless mic as I remember to a standing ovation.
I'll have to see if CDs are available with her voice to put together IDs.
Tom wrote:
Dear Repeater-Builder administrators:
I've got a few things to say along the lines of this post. They are
not only off topic, they are clearly discouraged in the intro. page of
the site: HOWEVER, I believe they now need to be said. In spite of
this, I will respectfully defer to
Mark,
I agree with Eric, you are aways away from cutting and hacking on
traces until we can identify exactly which backplane board you are
working with.
Most of the time that I have seen the TRN prefix, it usually has been
tied to the PURC series of radios. Are all of your backplane boards
that
I looked at 7 of the 14 chassis I have; the ones I looked at were *all*
TRN6421 - including those with what appeared to be the Zetron interface
wiring.
The labeling for the card cage is as follows (again, listed from right to
left):
TOT
STN CONT
SQUELCH GATE
SINGLE TONE DECODER
MASTER DECODER
Mark,
With the capability to have 16 users, I am guessing that it is more likely
to be a community repeater station than a PURC station. Of course, there
may be components that are common to both.
Since you already have the manuals you need for a basic Micor repeater, you
might consider
You have what were referred to as Community Repeater stations. Before LTR
trunking and 800 MHz there were community or shared repeater stations
everywhere used heavily by businesses small and large. There is a seperate
manual addition which deals with this station. I'll check my files
Mark,
I think Eric is correct in that you have got a community repeater
chassis. These can be a handful to get properly jumpered and
configured. If you can not find a TLN5644A backplane board, this will
be a little more of a challenge.
I think you are in a holding pattern here until your
Mark,
I did a little research on the 3rd Street site, and I am convinced that you
have a community repeater. The manual you need is 6881025E55, which
supplements the 6881025E50 manual that you already have, for the basic
station. It is NLA from Motorola Parts, but one is available on eBay as
Joe and Eric,
OK, many thanks. I bought that manual earlier today from an eBay seller for
$14 -- MANUAL #68P81025E55-B. (Eric, I see the reference you sent wants $20
and it's an older manual to boot.)
The seller said it will be shipped first thing tomorrow, so I guess now I
just sit and wait.
This is as good a time as any to mention that the Micor Community Repeater
Supplement 6881025E55 has been revealed as a prime candidate for full-page
scanning into PDF for posting on the RBTIP site. If any readers (other than
Mark- he'll be sleeping with his book for weeks!) have a clean and
Hi Rod,
The voice of the S-COM 7330 controller (and the Vyex Digital Audio Board in
the 7K controller) belongs to a ham by the name of Sean Caldwell
(_http://www.seancaldwell.com_ (http://www.seancaldwell.com) ). He gives price
breaks to
hams.
73,
Bob
Bob Schmid, WA9FBO, Member
OFF TOPIC Thanks Kevin, but after a day or so to think it over, I have
come to the conclusion that what I had intended to say would serve no
useful purpose, just as Don pointed out. I will say that amateur
operator class means nothing, in my opinion, and I tend to view
someone who tries too hard
In the building and testing phase of a system, two power supplies are
being used. One for the power amp and one for the repeater/exciter, fan,
controller, etc. It appears that a ground loop may be emerging as the
culprit in why some sort of oscillation or cycling of the repeater goes on,
OFF TOPIC Wish I'd have read the posts from the wannabe's before I
posted this. I would have made my comments anyway just for spite.
Tom
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
OFF TOPIC Thanks Kevin, but after a day or so to think it over, I have
come to the
But remember, with no superpowers comes no responsibility.
--rly
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hello i have a icom ic-rp4020 repeater bought it off ebay about 3 or 4
years ago and have just got round to using it only to find i have very
bad rx, i get a range of about 40foot with or without an antenna and i
even had a big jbeam base station 8 foot long job on it.
checked the rx board for dry
Nate ( and all ),
Thanks for the welcome. I guess to say that my frustration is/was
apparent. It has nothing to do with this reflector but on some outside /
other issues. Sorry if that crept into view. I opted to join the reflector
and get some help on 'one' of these issues.I have
Greetings to everyone here on the list! I am looking to build a 6
meter repeater. I do not have the option for a split-site setup, so I
will have to acquire a duplexer somehow. I was looking at buying a new
duplexer, but they are just too expensive for the wallet (and the
wife!). I thought
Hi Michael.
Would Recommend Ron Wright N9EE in Tampa Who owns an 2 meter Repeater in
Tampa(very Knowligable.
Wesley AB8KD
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From: Michael Ryan
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 3:42 PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexer
Hello all. I recently snagged a UHF Aerotron repeater, complete with
community PL cards. Being that I have to shift the frequency 21 Mhz, I
need to realign the reciever and transmitter. However, I cannot find a
manual for either the reciever or transmitter anywhere. I understand
that these
I need a good receiver for our 6 meter repeater. It is on
53.090/52.090. What would be a good radio to look for. Preferably
crystal controlled and easy to tune. I am not completely ruling out
programmable radios, it's just that they are not my preference. If you
have something you would part with
It hadn't dawned on me till now, that all of her voice recordings are out there
somewhere.
Gerald Pelnar WD0FYF
McPherson, Ks
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From: Ronny Julian
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 5:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder]
' aside I
suppose you pay for what you get and I'd like to know they were done right.
Any help would be appreciated.
. -Mike, K4CVL (941) 376-6453
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