Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Astron Power Supply Alert
LOL! Nothing says we're reputable and here to stay like a company e-mail address at yahoo.com! Nothing against the power supplies, miy 1995-vintage RS35 still works fine, but sheesh! 73, Paul AE4KR - Original Message - From: WA Brown To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 10:00 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Astron Power Supply Alert What is wrong with the power supply? Here is the contact info for Astron. 9 Autry, Irvine, CA 92618 949-458-7277 . FAX:949-458-0826 E-MAIL: astroncorporat...@yahoo.com .
RE: [Repeater-Builder] kendecom repeaters on 220
using pure discriminator audio perhaps? --- On Mon, 10/19/09, Michael Ryan mryan...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: From: Michael Ryan mryan...@tampabay.rr.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] kendecom repeaters on 220 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, October 19, 2009, 1:06 AM Hello Bob, Well..I know you would know what a good machine should sound like. You have worked a few I know! Steve, W4YHD had done some audio tailoring within the unit but just what I could not say. But I know it has been on the air with nary a glitch for a quarter century or more. In fact I would say that his repeater has been the most reliable machine in our club all the years I lived up there. And it is still going strong. - Mike From: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:Repeater- buil...@yahoogro ups.com] On Behalf Of n...@no6b.com Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 11:45 PM To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] kendecom repeaters on 220 At 10/18/2009 19:17, you wrote: The repeater there in Fairfax, Va on 224.100 has the best audio of any repeater I ever heard. It is a Kendecom. I dare anyone to tell me that they can tell the difference between the INPUT audio and the OUTPUT audio. Very natural, unprocessed, and a pleasure to listen to. - Mike Wondering what you did to it to make it sound so good. Every one I've heard around here sounds very restricted somewhat distorted. In fact, I can usually tell if a repeater is a Kendecom by the characteristically poor repeat audio. Bob NO6B __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4520 (20091018) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset. com
[Repeater-Builder] Icom FR-3000 Info needed
Hello, I was wondering has anyone ever done the software programing to bring the Icom FR-3000 into the Ham band not the freq programing but the actual conversion? If so give me hints and thoughts thanks Mike KC8FWD
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Icom FR-3000 Info needed
I am not sure what you are asking, is this about programming or is this about vco and/or hardware mods As far as I can see the programming software does not care what you enter . Doug KD8B At 01:32 PM 10/21/2009, you wrote: Hello, I was wondering has anyone ever done the software programing to bring the Icom FR-3000 into the Ham band not the freq programing but the actual conversion? If so give me hints and thoughts thanks Mike KC8FWD
[Repeater-Builder] Looking for a schematic
I am looking for a schematic for a hand mike-GE/MA/Com Orion or MDZ handeheld model 344A45228P1-anyone got a manual kicking around out there? Thanks Andy W6AMS Andrew Seybold aseyb...@andrewseybold.com mailto:aseyb...@andrewseybold.com 315 Meigs Road, Suite A-267 Santa Barbara, CA 93109 805-898-2460 office 805-898-2466 fax www.andrewseybold.com http://www.andrewseybold.com image001.jpg
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Looking for a schematic
Sorry-found in on RB LBI list-could not find it with a Crtl-F but found it by MDX radio number-great resource for sure!!! Andy From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Seybold Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 11:55 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Looking for a schematic I am looking for a schematic for a hand mike-GE/MA/Com Orion or MDZ handeheld model 344A45228P1-anyone got a manual kicking around out there? Thanks Andy W6AMS Andrew Seybold aseyb...@andrewseybold.com mailto:aseyb...@andrewseybold.com 315 Meigs Road, Suite A-267 Santa Barbara, CA 93109 805-898-2460 office 805-898-2466 fax www.andrewseybold.com http://www.andrewseybold.com image001.jpg
[Repeater-Builder] Motorola MSF-5000
I have a Motorola MSF 5000 that I set up as a GMRS repeater and after re-programming and retuning I realized that I had been using my Micor for the last 4 to 5 years with no down time and why consider changing now. Since I decided that this was excess to my needs I wanted to offer it here with a meter set and manual for 425.00. The model is C44CXB7106BT and is a 40 watt Dig UHF Conv RPTR With options C675AV Duplex Filter 110W UHF RPTR C92AJ 26 '' Universal Cabinet MRTI 1000 Telephone interconnect I am located 18 miles South of Melbourne Florida and I would require whoever buys it to pick it up. I also have a tone remote that will work with this that I will throw in to get it out of the house. Thanks Steve N4YZA
[Repeater-Builder] extender board wanted TLN 5935A
For the MSR2000 repeater. I have several micor, but no msr extender board ! I've missed out on two on ebay, can someone here help?? Please reply offlist with details tnx/73 for the assist Jerry VE3 EXT
RE: [Repeater-Builder] kendecom repeaters on 220
Anybody got any suggestions about fixing the squelch circuit? (Spare me the 'get a REAL repeater' comments please!) Is the MICOR squelch still available? Anybody done it to one of these? I've got 3 of these beasts (2 in service and one spare) and the squelch on one of them in particular is pretty lousy. 73, Mike WM4B From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Nate Duehr Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 11:48 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] kendecom repeaters on 220 On Oct 18, 2009, at 11:28 AM, Jed Barton wrote: Hey guys, I'm working with a group and have given them several suggestions for repeaters on 220 including hipro, ge, moto, etc. One thing i don't know much about is the kendecom, and thought i would ask since they want to know. As far as relyability, good, bad? Reliability: Looking inside ours, at the quality of the components, I would have given it only a few years before it fried. Surprisingly it's been up for way over 10 years now. Maybe 20? Originally installed when novices were given 220 MHz voice priveleges, hard linked to 2m, so they could talk to the higher license classes. We keep meaning to replace it with a converted MASTR II, but it hasn't forced us to make it a priority, if you catch my drift. Complaints match Kevin and other's comments: Squelch action, crappy. Seriously crappy. Way too much hysteresis means you have to crank it way up to get any kind of decent squelch action. RX is relatively deaf, but workable with a pre-amp. (220 is so darn QUIET, it's hard NOT to hear signals... so it works, but it could work a LOT better.) Like almost everyone else, the club's main techs at the time, ripped out/bypassed the internal controller. It was so long ago, I wasn't even a Ham back then (prior to 1991 for sure!) and did a custom interface to an S-Com controller. Sounds like they'll do it for you at the factory these days. The really annoying one for us has been this: TX frequency stability is very poor. We have to put it back on TX frequency on a regular basis (annually at least). The potentiometer quality used for this adjustment is abysmal and gets worse to fiddle with every year it gets older. Another one of those dilemmas... mess with it and put in a multi-turn pot, or just replace the whole thing with a GE?... (We just had our first neighbor pair on 220 utilized in the area, and the owner is someone I know. He noted that we're off frequency in his direction (this time) a little bit, and I promised him I'd go tweak the thing again at first opportunity.) Oh... almost forgot about this one: Getting the cover off and working on the thing in a rack-mount environment is a complete PITA. Put a rack shelf under it for when you need to get at the guts. Have a place to put all the little screws (or ditch half of them and never put them back) and make your cabling long enough to turn the thing upside down on the shelf if you have to troubleshoot the underside of any of the circuit boards. Ours took a lightning hit -- again, more than ten years ago -- which toasted some of the metering circuitry, making the pretty little meters on the front, somewhat useless in some modes of the switches. Unbelievable that it survived, it has ball lightning marks at the screw holes in the front in the blue paint, to this day. Oh, by the way... lesson learned... scrape the pretty blue paint off around those holes and get down to bare metal before shooting your rack screws into it. Waste of pretty blue paint, since you want your rack rails properly grounded to the repeater's case anyway. Four or five years ago, we found a dried out capacitor in the audio chain that caused it to sound horrible. (Perhaps that's why Bob can always tell them, and other people rave about their audio... again, low quality components...) It was a chore to follow the audio chain through the thing (upside down) with a scope to find the stage that was dead. Once found, and replaced, it popped back to the usual good quality audio we were used to hearing out of it.) My plan has always just been to replace it... everything else in the network other than the 1.2 GHz analog machine, is GE MASTR II's... no reason not to continue the standardization process eventually, when other more pressing issues are completed. Working on the MASTR II's is just easier. It'd make a good basement/backyard repeater. On a mountain, in tight working quarters in a rack, it's a pain, and the build quality just isn't what we like to use. The MASTR II shelves are MADE to drop them open and work on them on- site... etc. Why fight with it? It ever dies, it's not getting repaired to go back to the hill. That's probably enough. I won't bash them completely, but I wouldn't put another into service. Especially not at their very proud of this blue box NEW pricing. Ouch. --
[Repeater-Builder] seletone st-809b dtmf
I'm rehooking up St-809B DTMF Decoder board in my Kenwood TKR-720. I thought I took good notes but I guess not. ST-809B is still program for 123* Primary address and 789# Primary Reset, Programed as mode 2 (3 independent outputs). I'm using + and - supply wires and Decode Latched output to relay to kill the transmitt ptt. also useRx Signal input form descriminator. It was all hooked up and working before I moved freq down in 2 meters and tried to clean up the cobbled up mess. I know I decoding DTMF because STD goes low on reciept of DTMF tone. I can EMail screen dumps of my software settings if needed. I have Parkinsons and I made something simple hard, but I hate to take the cover off something and see a cobbled up mess. Any help here in the group would be appreciate, if need be you can email me direct at ka0jon at our-klan.com I'm good on QRZ. then I can upload a file to the group case anyone else needs the info. David KA0JON
Re: [Repeater-Builder] kendecom repeaters on 220
The MICOR squelch is available from Link Comm, but its price has become a bit hard to swallow (IMHO) (currently $110.00 not including shipping). With that in mind, you could obtain a Audio Squelch Board from a mobile or station (cheap) and carefully extract the squelch chip and build your own. Here are some links: http://www.link-comm.com/lpage.php?cid=2 http://www.repeater-builder.com/micor/micor-bi-level-squelch-theory.html http://www.repeater-builder.com/temp/micor-bilevel.gif Good luck! Kevin Custer anybody got any suggestions about fixing the squelch circuit? (Spare me the 'get a REAL repeater' comments please!) Is the MICOR squelch still available? Anybody done it to one of these? I've got 3 of these beasts (2 in service and one spare) and the squelch on one of them in particular is pretty lousy. 73, Mike WM4B
RE: [Repeater-Builder] kendecom repeaters on 220
Thanks Kevin. As soon as I get the infamous round-tuit, Im gonna look into that. 73, Mike WM4B From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Custer Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 7:56 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] kendecom repeaters on 220 The MICOR squelch is available from Link Comm, but its price has become a bit hard to swallow (IMHO) (currently $110.00 not including shipping). With that in mind, you could obtain a Audio Squelch Board from a mobile or station (cheap) and carefully extract the squelch chip and build your own. Here are some links: http://www.link-comm.com/lpage.php?cid=2 http://www.repeater-builder.com/micor/micor-bi-level-squelch-theory.html http://www.repeater-builder.com/temp/micor-bilevel.gif Good luck! Kevin Custer anybody got any suggestions about fixing the squelch circuit? (Spare me the get a REAL repeater comments please!) Is the MICOR squelch still available? Anybody done it to one of these? Ive got 3 of these beasts (2 in service and one spare) and the squelch on one of them in particular is pretty lousy. 73, Mike WM4B
Re: [Repeater-Builder] kendecom repeaters on 220
risking getting flamed The micor squelch is great, but it's not magic. Good amps, good filters, limiters, and a bi-level comparator. I've built a couple... mine weren't as great, but the one on the MSR2000 R1 audio card is Motorola's knock off of their own chip, and pretty impressive. So, with the Micor chip getting more and more esoteric all the time, is it worth building an alternative that works comparably without the special chip, and making a kit available? Magazine article, etc.? Note this is something I might be willing to collaborate on with others. Maybe there's something about the Micor I'm missing that others love. 73 DE N0MJS On Oct 21, 2009, at 6:55 PM, Kevin Custer wrote: The MICOR squelch is available from Link Comm, but its price has become a bit hard to swallow (IMHO) (currently $110.00 not including shipping). With that in mind, you could obtain a Audio Squelch Board from a mobile or station (cheap) and carefully extract the squelch chip and build your own. Here are some links: http://www.link-comm.com/lpage.php?cid=2 http://www.repeater-builder.com/micor/micor-bi-level-squelch-theory.html http://www.repeater-builder.com/temp/micor-bilevel.gif Good luck! Kevin Custer anybody got any suggestions about fixing the squelch circuit? (Spare me the ‘get a REAL repeater’ comments please!) Is the MICOR squelch still available? Anybody done it to one of these? I’ve got 3 of these beasts (2 in service and one spare) and the squelch on one of them in particular is pretty lousy. 73, Mike WM4B -- Cort Buffington H: +1-785-838-3034 M: +1-785-865-7206 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:repeater-builder-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:repeater-builder-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: repeater-builder-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Kenwood tk-370
Hello Ian, I happen to have both the connector ( NEW ) for the radio and several new in the bag KRA-17M Kenwood antennas. Send me your shipping address and I will get to you a price for parts and shipping. Gary --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, kerinvale kerin...@... wrote: Hi guys .Would anyone know where we can replacement antenna parts for the Kenwood tk-370. I am chasing the sma-f antenna socket in the top of the radio and also a antenna but seem to be having trouble finding a supplier or replacement parts  Thank You, Ian Wells, Kerinvale Comaudio, 361 Camboon Road.Biloela.4715 Ph 0749922449 or 0409159932 or 0749922574 www.kerinvalecomaudio.com.au
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Astron Power Supply Alert
Nothing says we're reputable and here to stay like a company e-mail address at yahoo.com! I think I'd find a more reliable way to evaluate a company than the email address they use. Not everyone considers an email address all that important. If it gets the job done, WHO CARES who the provider is? I sure don't! My personal experience with Astron has been exemplary in every way, the products, the service, the support. Additionally their longevity has ALREADY proven that they truly ARE here to stay. As a commercial LMR tech. for over 45 years, I've seen more Astron supplies than all other brands put together(except maybe Motorola). THAT says all I need to know. I have NO affiliation with Astron or any other commercial enterprise, and have never had any affiliation with Astron other than a VERY satisfied user. Tom DGN --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Paul Plack pl...@... wrote: LOL! Nothing says we're reputable and here to stay like a company e-mail address at yahoo.com! Nothing against the power supplies, miy 1995-vintage RS35 still works fine, but sheesh! 73, Paul AE4KR - Original Message - From: WA Brown To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 10:00 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Astron Power Supply Alert What is wrong with the power supply? Here is the contact info for Astron. 9 Autry, Irvine, CA 92618 949-458-7277 . FAX:949-458-0826 E-MAIL: astroncorporat...@... .
