Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Need wacom duplexer mod info

2009-11-02 Thread Joe
Hello Freddy, Have you tried to tune it to your frequency? You may not need to cut the inner tuning rod, as it just may have enough travel to go to your frequency. It's worth a shot. My 42MHz cans went to 53Mhz with no problems. The loops will probably need to be modified. 73, Joe, K1ike

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Need wacom duplexer mod info

2009-11-02 Thread ag4uw
hey Joe Yes I have tried that and it will only go to 42mhz They are 35mhz to 40mhz cans and they will only go to 42mhz. The tuning rod is not the real problem I have it out and all I will need to do is cut more threads on the threaded rod so it will unscrew further up the can but the cooper

[Repeater-Builder] Weird Interference between APRS and 2-M repeater help needed

2009-11-02 Thread bullmus
Here's a weird one. I have my ideas, but I need to bounce it off a couple brains bigger than mine. APRS on 144.39, and FM Voice repeater at 147.24/147.84. Antennas are identical Telewave 4-bay stacked dipole. Both antennas are horizontal to each other, and roughly two wavelengths from each

[Repeater-Builder] Re: GE Icoms offered Taken

2009-11-02 Thread motarolla_doctor
The Icoms have been taken, thank you. --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, motarolla_doctor echoco...@... wrote: I just found two more Icoms with sockets. 4EG25A10 on 455.85 and 455.45 I have 3 pair of GE IComs that I do not need. These were pulled from working radios. 3

[Repeater-Builder] Tone Reeds Needed (swap?)

2009-11-02 Thread tahrens301
Hi Folks, I need the following: 1 Vibrasender (TX) KLN6210A/TLN6824A 141.3 Hz 1 Vibrasponder (RX) TLN8381A 186.2 Hz I have bunches of the Sender reeds: 100.0, 123.0, 151.4, 206.5. Thanks, Tim

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Tone Reeds Needed (swap?)

2009-11-02 Thread Ted Bleiman K9MDM - MDM Radio
tim i have both $5 ea + post $4 sorry no trades these days. mdm ted

[Repeater-Builder] FS: GE Icoms 226142 g16 and g7 mvp tx and rx

2009-11-02 Thread Ted Bleiman K9MDM - MDM Radio
I have a short grundle (which is less than a ton) of these and no radios into which they fit. $8 per pair + post probably have 25-30 pr. - ship anywhere. i'd like to avoid paypal if at all possible. part of the proceeds from the sale of these will go toward myRepeater-Builder donation so lets

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Weird Interference between APRS and 2-M repeater help needed

2009-11-02 Thread David
First of all you do not have enough isolation between antennas with only two wavelenghts horizonal seperation. A single bandpass cavity will not be enough. I would try 2 bandpass/bandreject cavities. Reject set for the TX freq and the other set for the RX freq. I believe that RF from your

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Weird Interference between APRS and 2-M repeater help needed

2009-11-02 Thread Paul Plack
Can you receive through a circulator without heavy losses? I've never tried it... - Original Message - From: David To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 1:31 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Weird Interference between APRS and 2-M repeater

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Weird Interference between APRS and 2-M repeater help needed

2009-11-02 Thread DCFluX
You will have 20dB-30dB loss from antenna to transmit port. About the only way to implement a circulator in a half duplex radio is to tap the PA board before the T/R switch, and if it is PIN diodes, it still may create a mix. On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 1:40 PM, Paul Plack pl...@xmission.com wrote:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Weird Interference between APRS and 2-M repeater help needed

2009-11-02 Thread depley
I believe you are right. Simplex is difficult with a circulater. David Epley, N9CZV Can you receive through a circulator without heavy losses? I've never tried it... - Original Message - From: David To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Tone Reeds Needed (swap?)

2009-11-02 Thread ve3ext
Ted have any for 118.8., for the MSR repeater Jerry VE3 EXT

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Tone Reeds Needed (swap?)

2009-11-02 Thread First Nametim Wood
Hi Ted, Which reeds are they? TIM --- On Mon, 11/2/09, Ted Bleiman K9MDM - MDM Radio k9...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Ted Bleiman K9MDM - MDM Radio k9...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Tone Reeds Needed (swap?) To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, November 2, 2009, 12:17 PM

[Repeater-Builder] Lightning Rod (Bolt)?

2009-11-02 Thread Doug Rehman
Looking at some DB Products fiberglass radome antennas, they all have a metal protrusion on the top cap; it looks like bronze perhaps. I presume that it is some form of lightning mitigation device. Is this just a piece of metal in the cap, unattached to the internal antenna element? I'm curious

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Weird Interference between APRS and 2-M repeater help needed

2009-11-02 Thread Kris Kirby
On Mon, 2 Nov 2009, bullmus wrote: APRS on 144.39, and FM Voice repeater at 147.24/147.84. Antennas are identical Telewave 4-bay stacked dipole. Both antennas are horizontal to each other, and roughly two wavelengths from each other center loop to center loop. We discovered the problem

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Weird Interference between APRS and 2-M repeater help needed

2009-11-02 Thread Kris Kirby
On Mon, 2 Nov 2009, dep...@starband.net wrote: I believe you are right. Simplex is difficult with a circulater. Can you receive through a circulator without heavy losses? I've never tried it... Older Micor mobiles had a built-in circulator and a T/R relay. -- Kris Kirby, KE4AHR

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Weird Interference between APRS and 2-M repeater help needed

2009-11-02 Thread Oz-in-DFW
Only on UHF. VHF was a lowpass filter. Kris Kirby wrote: On Mon, 2 Nov 2009, dep...@starband.net mailto:depley%40starband.net wrote: I believe you are right. Simplex is difficult with a circulater. Can you receive through a circulator without heavy losses? I've never tried it...

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Weird Interference between APRS and 2-M repeater help needed

2009-11-02 Thread Ken Arck
At 12:31 PM 11/2/2009, David wrote: Most people used a simple mobile for aprs which creates alot of headaches where several transmitters are used. They just dont have the filtering needed for this application. You should also use a circulator on your aprs radio. This will help keep RF out of

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Weird Interference between APRS and 2-M repeater help needed

2009-11-02 Thread Ken Arck
I am a firm believer that anyone who deploys ANY transmitter on a mountaintop (or any multi transmitter site) should be shot. ---Darn it.. What I meant is that I am a firm believer that anyone who deploys ANY transmitter on a mountaintop (or any multi transmitter site) WITHOUT A

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Weird Interference between APRS and 2-M repeater help needed

2009-11-02 Thread skipp025
I do it all the time in a test jig to set up mobile vehicle repeaters. Helps protect the non power term ports of a Service Monitor. You'd be surprised how much you can hear through it... s. Paul Plack pl...@... wrote: Can you receive through a Circulator without heavy losses? I've

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Weird Interference between APRS and 2-M repeater help needed

2009-11-02 Thread Paul Plack
I guess there are some sites noisy enough that losing 30 dB wouldn't affect S/N... ;^) - Original Message - From: skipp025 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 4:29 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Weird Interference between APRS and 2-M

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Lightning Rod (Bolt)?

2009-11-02 Thread Chuck Kelsey
Although I've never had one apart, I believe the cap is attached to the radiating element. Also, I have never seen any fiberglass collinear antenna survive a direct hit. I have, however, seen folded dipole arrays survive a lightning strike. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From:

[Repeater-Builder] Fun wav/mp3 Telco files for your repeater controller

2009-11-02 Thread skipp025
Re: Fun wav/mp3 Telco files for your repeater controller http://www.payphone-directory.org/sounds.html enjoy, s.

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Lightning Rod (Bolt)?

2009-11-02 Thread Doug Rehman
I was told by someone that took an antenna out of the radome that there did not appear to be any connection to the conductor on the cap. The antenna slid right out of the bottom of the radome. I agree about the survivability of folded dipole arrays, but they don't seem to be an option at 900

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Lightning Rod (Bolt)?

2009-11-02 Thread Jeff DePolo
On most fiberglass omnis, the lighting spike at the top is an extension of the last element in the array which is actually a shorted quarter-wave section. This shorted quarter-wave section at the far end of the radiator serves to put the entire antenna at DC ground. Some of the cheaper

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Lightning Rod (Bolt)?

2009-11-02 Thread Chuck Kelsey
I haven't seen any for that band either, but don't know what they utilize for the various panel antennas that are covered with a radome. TX/RX makes a vertical that has integral folded dipoles and an aluminum extrusion goes all the way to the tip of the antenna for lightning. I suspect it might

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Fun wav/mp3 Telco files for your repeater controller

2009-11-02 Thread Ken Arck
At 03:44 PM 11/2/2009, skipp025 wrote: Re: Fun wav/mp3 Telco files for your repeater controller I notice the one(s) from Hawaiin Tel aren't listed. Ones like: Da kine! Da wahine you call no stay dere. Shootz! Eh, wat u t'ink. You no need one quarta' fo' make call? I was disappointed to

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Weird Interference between APRS and 2-M repeater help needed

2009-11-02 Thread bullmus
Thanks for the input folks! I missed a couple critical pieces of information that are about to get me shot! ;-) Our FM Voice repeater is running through a 6-cavity duplexer. The APRS setup had a single cavity, tuned to the 144.39 APRS frequency. I am assuming this single cavity is acting

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Weird Interference between APRS and 2-M repeater help needed

2009-11-02 Thread Jason Parks
Thanks for the input. I missed a couple critical pieces of information. The FM Voice repeater is running through a 6-cavity duplexer. The APRS setup had a single cavity, tuned to the 144.39 APRS frequency. I am assuming this single cavity is acting as a low pass filter to prevent the voice

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Weird Interference between APRS and 2-M repeater help needed

2009-11-02 Thread Joe
Jason Parks wrote: Noise and desense are one thing, but the popping and crackling when trying to hook the antenna to a powered off radio, I'm assuming that the popping and crackling that you are hearing is on the active repeater? If so, that is what one can expect if you change things in

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Lightning Rod (Bolt)?

2009-11-02 Thread Doug Rehman
I just looked at the TX/RX catalog - looks like you're referring to their CC Series antennas; the description indicate that the lightning spike (their term) is connected to a solid brass support pipe. They're not made for 900 MHz though, only UHF/700/800. Looks like the price for the 6dB gain

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Weird Interference between APRS and 2-M repeater help needed

2009-11-02 Thread Ken Arck
At 04:40 PM 11/2/2009, Joe wrote: The repeater might be getting into the PA stage of the APRS radio. Try powering off the APRS radio during the time that you hear the weird noise. I would bet that the noise goes away as soon as the APRS radio in powered off. ---Power is irrelevant as the PA

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Weird Interference between APRS and 2-M repeater help needed

2009-11-02 Thread Jeff DePolo
The repeater might be getting into the PA stage of the APRS radio. Try powering off the APRS radio during the time that you hear the weird noise. I would bet that the noise goes away as soon as the APRS radio in powered off. What kind of radio is being used for APRS? If it's something

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Lightning Rod (Bolt)?

2009-11-02 Thread JG
Is it just possible that it's for corona discharge :) John

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Lightning Rod (Bolt)?

2009-11-02 Thread Mark
Doug, Not sure how soon you need this antenna, but if you have time to wait - go to Dayton next year. There has been a guy there the past two years selling RFS/Cellwave Super Stationmaster antennas. DEFINITELY commercial-grade. I bought one 2 years ago from the guy (I wish I could remember

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Lightning Rod (Bolt)?

2009-11-02 Thread Doug Rehman
Mark: I could probably come up with a used 9dB DB Products antenna, but for this application, weight is a MAJOR factor. A DB-809 is around 25 pounds and a DB-589 is still about 11 pounds. The 5dB gain Maxrad MFB9155 is less than 2 pounds. This is going on top of a 24' mast that is on top

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Lightning Rod (Bolt)?

2009-11-02 Thread Mark
Ah, OK Doug. I understand your project better now. I'm sure you'll find something that'll fit your needs. and you can keep the Super Stationmaster in mind for the new tower later. ;-) 73, Mark - N9WYS From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of Doug Rehman Mark: I could

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Weird Interference between APRS and 2-M repeater help needed

2009-11-02 Thread k7pfj
Ken, I have to agree with you on this one. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ken Arck Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 4:30 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder]

[Repeater-Builder] Icom F420 programming

2009-11-02 Thread wa0vus
Anyone here programmed these Icom F420 radios. I cannot seem to get them to play in the 440 area. I have all the software and cables but sure am missing a step somewhere. I program a high and low freq such as 440 and 470. I try to set the pll voltage using this and can only get 7.75 volts no

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Icom F420 programming

2009-11-02 Thread Gary
Seems you radios are probably -9's (400-430Mhz). They can be retuned up to around 450Mhz. There's a procedure discussed on the mods.dk website. You'll have to program several channels throughout the amateur band then use the service mode of the software to access the soft tuning tools. Not too

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Lightning Rod (Bolt)?

2009-11-02 Thread larynl2
I agree about the survivability of folded dipole arrays, but they don't seem to be an option at 900 MHz- at least I don't see them in commercial catalogs and have never encountered an 800 or 900 MHz. Telewave makes them... http://www.telewave.com/pdf/TWDS-7019.pdf Laryn K8TVZ