Re: [Repeater-Builder] Remote control via text message

2007-03-02 Thread IM Ashford
This sounds perfect for a backup control system. However, using mobile phone/gsm to control primary systems has the following problems. 1) Latency - texts can sometimes be late.I have known a delay of 24 hours during Christmas and new year peaks. 2) Spam texts - the phones inbox fill with offers

[Repeater-Builder] Tower to antenna spacing

2007-03-02 Thread Tim and Janet
Repeater BuilderWhat is the standard spacing for a VHF antenna side mounted on rohn 25 tower? I found a page on repeater builder that showed 1/4-1/2 wavelength with a null behind the tower. I don't want to mount it any further than 4' from the tower but of course I would like to minimize the i

Re: [Repeater-Builder] repeater problems, duplexer etc.

2007-03-02 Thread Steven Samuel Bosshard \(NU5D\)
In the days before the cushman ce50tg, I used an FM10CS with a bearcat scanner to set pass and reject on BpBr duplexers. Be sure and use a 50 Ohm 10 db attenuator on each port to normalize mismatch between the duplexer port and the antenna port on the bearcat, or the generator and the duplexer. Al

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: repeater problems, duplexer etc.

2007-03-02 Thread Gary Schafer
> -Original Message- > From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of skipp025 > Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 7:51 PM > To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: repeater problems, duplexer etc. > > > > There is no

[Repeater-Builder] Re: repeater problems, duplexer etc.

2007-03-02 Thread skipp025
> There is no way you can tune a duplexer with a power meter > or swr meter. They are not sensitive enough to see the low > level signals even if your signal source is a good size > transmitter. Sure you can... just depends on the duplexer, test equipment and what realistic type of results yo

RE: [Repeater-Builder] repeater problems, duplexer etc.

2007-03-02 Thread Gary Schafer
If you are tuning a pass/notch type duplexer you must always tune the pass part first then tune the notch last. Never touch the pass part of the tuning again after you have finished with the notch. You may need to go back and forth sometimes but the notch should always be the last thing that you to

[Repeater-Builder] Motorola PURC Station PROM programming

2007-03-02 Thread Jay Thienel
Hello, Has anyone decoded the PROM used in the Paging Synthesizer for the Motorola PURC station? The PROM part is TRN5814A and it is used to select the frequency that the PLL will lock to. Alternativaly, does anyone have the capability to program a PROM for this station? Thanks

[Repeater-Builder] Remote control via text message

2007-03-02 Thread Matt Beasant
Hi This months edition of Everyday Practical Electronics magazine features part one of a project to build a device to enable remote control and remote status indication all via an old Nokia mobile phone suing GSM based SMS service ( text message ) See the magazine web site here: http://www.ep

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola MOTOTRBO

2007-03-02 Thread Paul Metzger
Thanks for the info James! I'm also serious about pursuing one of these systems as well. I wonder if we can get a discount going here for multiple units. I'm anxiously awaiting Glens (W8AK) hands on findings. Paul K6EH - On Mar 2, 2007,

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola MOTOTRBO

2007-03-02 Thread Paul Metzger
I'll be anxiously awaiting your findings Glenn. I know Motorola is selling and shipping "Test Kits" to dealers at this time. I also learned that orders are being placed for the units, but it is more a waiting line at this point in time. I was led to believe that only the "Test Kits" are bei

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola MOTOTRBO

2007-03-02 Thread James Delancy
Ok guys ... here is what I found. It is not Motorola proprietary format, but rather it is ETSI (European Technical Standards Institute) (standard number ETSI TS102 361-1). It is a DQPSK scheme. This is a published standard, and I just might start pursuing its use rather than D-star at this poin

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Right from the horse's mouth (or the other end)

2007-03-02 Thread Bob M.
I was surprised also. Usually they just send back an automated, generic reply and offer no explanation for problems that just vanish. The write-up in the blog did a pretty good job explaining things. Too bad the posted messages during that time frame will never be mailed out. I'm too lazy and fed u

RE: [Repeater-Builder] repeater problems, duplexer etc.

2007-03-02 Thread Gary Schafer
There is no way you can tune a duplexer with a power meter or swr meter. They are not sensitive enough to see the low level signals even if your signal source is a good size transmitter. You can use a receiver tuned to the frequency you are trying to notch out. Your signal source then should be a

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Right from the horse's mouth (or the other end)

2007-03-02 Thread Ken Arck
At 08:28 AM 3/2/2007, you wrote: >Thank you for writing to Yahoo! Groups. <---It only took 3 days to receive the reply, right? :-) Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of the world famous RC210 Repeater

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 220 repeater receiver recommendations?

2007-03-02 Thread Bob Dengler
At 2/28/2007 08:19 AM, you wrote: >Bob > You seem to want to lump what is characteristically a complex impedance > (R+or-jX) into a single number in order to simplify your argument that a > non conducting RF output transistor is an open circuit because the > transistor is not having any RF dri

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Right from the horse's mouth (or the other end)

2007-03-02 Thread Jim B.
Bob M. wrote: > Thank you for writing to Yahoo! Groups. > > I have read your email and understand that you are > unable to received group messages since Feb. 28. I > appreciate you contacting us and I'll be glad to > assist you on this matter. > > As you've noticed, we were experiencing som

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Diversity Antenna System ?

2007-03-02 Thread Gary Schafer
NO. You will create more problems. 73 Gary K4FMX > -Original Message- > From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony L. > Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 11:11 AM > To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Diver

RE: [Repeater-Builder] repeater problems, duplexer etc.

2007-03-02 Thread Daron J. Wilson
Anyone have any ideas? Are our crude methods of tuning the duplexer too crude? I would say yes. I've done UHF cans with my service monitor for the signal generator (very adjustable) and an HT to receive it on, and been moderately successful. However, your individual mileage may very, if you

Re: [Repeater-Builder] repeater problems, duplexer etc.

2007-03-02 Thread Ken Arck
At 03:38 AM 3/2/2007, you wrote: >Picked up a vertex VXR 7000, and a Celwave 6 cavity duplexer. (VHF) <---What type? One of those mobile notch-only type? How about a model number? >Using Celwave pd-220 3a, with 25 feet lmr. <---Some folks recommend against using LMR in a full duplex system (t

[Repeater-Builder] Right from the horse's mouth (or the other end)

2007-03-02 Thread Bob M.
Thank you for writing to Yahoo! Groups. I have read your email and understand that you are unable to received group messages since Feb. 28. I appreciate you contacting us and I'll be glad to assist you on this matter. As you've noticed, we were experiencing some issues with emails not bei

[Repeater-Builder] repeater problems, duplexer etc.

2007-03-02 Thread Chris
Picked up a vertex VXR 7000, and a Celwave 6 cavity duplexer. (VHF) Using Celwave pd-220 3a, with 25 feet lmr. We have spent hours tuning the duplexer, and find that it makes the system deaf. 1 watt out gives 10 miles coverage simplex, and when using dual antennas with the 3+ mhz bandspread the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola MOTOTRBO

2007-03-02 Thread Erik Finskas
> As far as I can tell, it's a proprietary Motorola format designed for > business and industrial use. What I've learned is that it is not Moto proprietary, Vertex and Kenwood are involved also. Should be interrested, radios should be dual-mode too, so they support analog FM also. .. Erik OH2LAK

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Diversity Antenna System ?

2007-03-02 Thread Tony L.
One of our repeaters is at a water tank. Our antenna is mounted at the top, but on the tank's northern side. There's an opportunity to mount another antenna at the oppostite side of the 50' wide tank (same height). I was wondering if we might improve omni coverage by having radiators operati

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Am I being Censored ?

2007-03-02 Thread Jim B.
George Henry wrote: > I think Yahoo has been having hiccups the last couple of days... I > see quite a few messages on the Yahoogroups site that I never got in > my email, and other messages have been arriving out of order (replies > before the originals...) > > Very weird. > > > George > Rig

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola MOTOTRBO

2007-03-02 Thread w8ak
Not sure about using it on the ham bands but we did just receive our demo. I have it all programmed and will be installing the repeater later today. Anxious to see how it plays. I try to post some results. Glenn W8AK ** AOL now offers free email to everyone

[Repeater-Builder] linking motorola gr500 repeater to another gr500 repeater to able to cover wide range.

2007-03-02 Thread Saviour Otsemobor
hello guys., pls am new to this group, pls has anybody in the group linked 2 motorola gr500 repeater to together so that it can wide range asuming both repeaters are 5okm apartor there about . using the basic controller to archive this.?. pls all infor on the programming will be apprecia

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Am I being Censored ?

2007-03-02 Thread Paul Finch
Paul, Been happening a lot with Yahoo for some reason, sometimes I get peoples responses hours before I get the original answer. Paul Too -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Metzger Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 12:26 AM

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Am I being Censored ?

2007-03-02 Thread Paul Finch
Hello, Got this from another Yahoo group, looks like they are trying to improve things but as most Humans do, they messed up! This is probably not the problem Paul was referring to, just interesting information. Paul >From February 28 about 2:30 p.m. (Pacific time) until March 1 about 11:15

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Am I being Censored ?

2007-03-02 Thread George Henry
I think Yahoo has been having hiccups the last couple of days... I see quite a few messages on the Yahoogroups site that I never got in my email, and other messages have been arriving out of order (replies before the originals...) Very weird. George -Original Message- >From: Paul M

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Diversity Antenna System ?

2007-03-02 Thread Milt
Tony, Not sure where you are going with this. I have seen and heard of antenna systems that used power dividers to connect two antennas to a single point with equal or unequal power division. Usually used in buildings where the RF resource is on the top of the building and coverage is needed

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Diversity Antenna System ?

2007-03-02 Thread Jim B.
Ken Arck wrote: > At 07:23 PM 3/1/2007, you wrote: >> Were about to implement it on a site in Portland and from preliminary >> testes it looks good. > > <---Has a lot of balls, eh? > > Ken Oh, dear... -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola MOTOTRBO

2007-03-02 Thread Jim B.
James wrote: > Ok, one more thought here. Does anyone know if MOTOTRBO uses the > IS-54/IS-136 > standard for TDMA? If so, I have found publicly available information on > this > standard which means that it could be put to use in the amateur bands. > > James > As far as I can tell, it's a

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Am I being Censored ?

2007-03-02 Thread Kevin Custer
Paul Metzger wrote: > When I send e-mails to the group, it takes hours for my posting to > actually post to the group? > > Paul Metzger > K6EH Two things relate to delay of posts: 1, EVERY new member is moderated for a period of time until the moderators see that you have decent posting habits

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Am I being Censored ?

2007-03-02 Thread Steve Bosshard \(NU5D\)
Most likely just yahoo and your isp - a friend here in Temple on road runner takes hours for a post to go through, while a different isp goes through in minutes. 73, Steve NU5D

[Repeater-Builder] Am I being Censored ?

2007-03-02 Thread Paul Metzger
When I send e-mails to the group, it takes hours for my posting to actually post to the group? Paul Metzger K6EH

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola MOTOTRBO

2007-03-02 Thread Paul Metzger
Where did you find such information James? I look forward to reading it. Tomorrow I'll push to research the legality of it myself as well. Paul Metzger K6EH Digital Voice Amateur Radio Association http://www.hamradio-dv.org N6DVA - On Mar 1

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola MOTOTRBO

2007-03-02 Thread Paul Metzger
I had almost purchased a MOTOTRBO repeater for the N6DVA Digital Voice Amateur Radio Association (to be used here within the greater Los Angeles area). But due to it utilizing a TDMA protocol, I felt it might not be a legal protocol to use for Amateur Radio purposes. Paul Metzger K6EH Digi

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Relm RPV599A programming help needed

2007-03-02 Thread George Henry
You might try the relmradioshop Yahoo group... If the Relm is anything like the Bendix-King radios (which Relm purchased), you can only do a limited amount from the front panel. You really need the programming software to do everything. Fortunately, for the BK radios anyway, the software is r