[Repeater-Builder] CTCSS Information Required.

2008-05-10 Thread Gmail - Home
Hi All, I have what I believe to be a Tait CTCSS unit. The numbers on the baord are 225-00011-41B. I know it is a 2 channel CTCSS unit, as it has two pots on it. I can work out which wires are the +12v and ground, but I do nmot have any information on what the other 10 connections points are.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] CTCSS Information Required.

2008-05-10 Thread Gareth Bennett
Hi Kevin, Sounds like you have a CTCSS board from a Tait T500. These are a specialty item and are probably more hassle to interface to a third party device. Regards _ Gareth Bennett This email is confidential, if you received

Re: [Repeater-Builder] CTCSS Information Required.

2008-05-10 Thread Gmail - Home
Hi Gareth, Thanks for that, I was hoping to fit it into a T300 RX, we are getting some interferance on one of link freq, from what we think is a in-home TV Transmitter. Going CTCSS would be an easy fix. Thanks Kevin. Get Skype and call me for free. - Original Message - From:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] CTCSS Information Required.

2008-05-10 Thread Gareth Bennett
Give me a reminder email on Monday and I'll have a look to see if there are some old CTCSS decoders at work floating around like somthing from SALCOM that would suit the T300 for you. Cheers _ Gareth Bennett This email is

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexer Desense Problem - Mystery

2008-05-10 Thread Ron Wright
If the load, antenna, were not 50 Ohm resistive and connecting it caused the duplexer to become untuned then tuning it with the load would make very much RF since. Tuning it with a dummy load is only done to insure a good load, but is not tuning for the real situation. However, in this

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Best coax for short jumpers in repeater cabinet?

2008-05-10 Thread Ron Wright
Eric, I agree often the wording on cable, and other things like drugs, batteries, etc, are ment to mislead. On my RG223 it says NETWORK CABEL 7725 TYPE RG223. I does have double copper shield. I had thought it had stranded center cond, but it is solid, looks like maybe #22 copper with

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: antenna question - Dip It and Scotch Kote and Kry

2008-05-10 Thread Ron Wright
Paul, This length always leads me to telling Hams that the 17 ft Comet does not have the 8+ dbd gain the package says. An antenna 44 ft long to get the 9-10 db gain from a very professional company with years of experience and now someone is going to make same in 17 ft package. Doubling

Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] FCC Denies Petition to Utilize 2m Sub-Band for Digita

2008-05-10 Thread Ron Wright
I ment to say Our local EDACS system is all analog for found the DIGITAL did not perform nearly as well. Of course the radios going from $2400 for analog to $3300 for digital did not help. The new versions are even more. 73, ron, n9ee/r Ron Wright, N9EE 727-376-6575 MICRO COMPUTER

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Best coax for short jumpers in repeater cabinet?

2008-05-10 Thread Ron Wright
Jeff, I think the LMR400 is a double shielded with each shield different metals. One braid and one foil. This is a no-no for duplexed repeaters for the higher TX RF will generate noise getting into receiver. I recommend at least 1/2 heliax. Know cost, but well worth the cost. 7/8 even

[Repeater-Builder] Re: FCC Denies Petition to Utilize 2m Sub-Band for Digita

2008-05-10 Thread ocwarren2000
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all from Adam Kb2Jpd One point some may be missing is that we should not continue to tie up precious spectrum just so we can continue to use old repeater technology. We have a mandate for expiermentation. in the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] FCC Denies Petition to Utilize 2m Sub-Band for Digit

2008-05-10 Thread Dan Blasberg
Since in some instances D-Star is an add on board, I wonder why ICOM wouldn't do the same thing for a P25 add on board? On May 9, 2008, at 9:52 PM, Ron Wright wrote: At $250/P25 radio is more like the D-Star price although they are user programmable. At $2500 it would be a very very hard

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: SAV-15 full data sheet

2008-05-10 Thread Mel Farrer
Thanks Mike. Yes, the S-AV15 is used in my MICOR 220 repeater. What I am looking for is a regular data sheet that and the curve that shows the power output vs the control voltage. None of the sites I have found and yours do that. Thanks again. Mel, K6KBE - Original Message From:

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: antenna question - Dip It and Scotch Kote and Kry

2008-05-10 Thread no6b
At 5/10/2008 04:36, you wrote: Paul, This length always leads me to telling Hams that the 17 ft Comet does not have the 8+ dbd gain the package says. I don't recall the package saying dBd, but their website clearly indicates 8.5 dBi @ 146 MHz. BTW, I measured the gain of the GP9 @ 440 MHz

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: antenna question - Dip It and Scotch Kote and Kry

2008-05-10 Thread Paul Finch
Dang, must have misread something. Was in a hurry, link below Paul HYPERLINK http://www.ke3ht.org/14691/specsheet_220-2n.pdfhttp://www.ke3ht.org/14691/ specsheet_220-2n.pdf _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laryn Lohman Sent:

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: antenna question - Dip It and Scotch Kote and Kry

2008-05-10 Thread Paul Finch
By the way, I was admitting I made an error reading the gain. I think I transposed the 9 MHz bandwidth with the gain, my error. Paul _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Finch Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2008 11:00 AM To:

[Repeater-Builder] Remote Solar - Propane and Wind Radio Repeater and Microwave Sites

2008-05-10 Thread skipp025
Hi Tony, Tony VE6MVP [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Folks We're moving a VHF MSR2000 repeater and two UHF GMR300 linking radios to a site where commercial power will cost $5000 plus monthly fees. So we're looking at various options such as solar, wind and so forth. The land owner might not

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Wacom Duplexer Desense Problem - Mystery

2008-05-10 Thread skipp025
Funny you should run into this problem... another group member and I have been talking about pretty much this same strange problem in regards to his extra set of Wacom Duplexer Cavities. He exhausted a number of serious RF test examples to his problematic Wacom duplexer as a package and as

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Best coax for short jumpers in repeater cabinet?

2008-05-10 Thread skipp025
I think the LMR400 is a double shielded with each shield different metals. One braid and one foil. This is a no-no for duplexed repeaters for the higher TX RF will generate noise getting into receiver. Just to be clear... The dissimilar shield metals is the potential problem source,

[Repeater-Builder] Antenna Gain (WAS antenna question - Dip It and Scotch Kote)

2008-05-10 Thread Eric Lemmon
Which begs the question: Why are antenna manufacturers and vendors still using dBi to express gain for antennas operating at VHF? The term dBi represents gain of an isotropic (point-source) radiator such as an antenna with a parabolic reflector; it is inappropriate to use dBi for a dipole

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna Gain (WAS antenna question - Dip It and Scotch Kote)

2008-05-10 Thread Steve Bosshard
Aluminum gives directivity and pattern - GAIN comes from EIMAC. I suspect manufacturers like bigger numbers - makes hams think they are getting more - I often ask the question of how a commercial antenna (DB304) can cost over $1000 and a higher gain ham quality antenna less than $100 - something

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Best coax for short jumpers in repeater cabinet?

2008-05-10 Thread Dave Gomberg
At 05:11 5/10/2008, Ron Wright wrote: At 122 ft HAAT you can get 30 miles to a mobile, but this is assuming flat terrain. To an HT not unless one is on a mountain or air plane, hi. I routinely hit the Mt Vaca repeater (2m, 2900ASL) from a hilltop (780ASL) 50 miles away. Most of the

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Best coax for short jumpers in repeater cabinet?

2008-05-10 Thread skipp025
If you're hitting the 195 Vaca Repeater it probably has a number of active voting receivers in operation. If you're talking about the 147.000 Vaca Repeater... it normally has a single mountain top receiver. The 145.470 Vacaville Repeater can be operational using various combinations of

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna Gain (WAS antenna question - Dip It and Scotch Kote)

2008-05-10 Thread Kevin Custer
Steve Bosshard wrote: Aluminum gives directivity and pattern - GAIN comes from EIMAC. Now THIS guy knows his stuff. 4CX250R (Eimac) and 2 metersYea!

[Repeater-Builder] IFR 1900 CSA

2008-05-10 Thread cruizzer77
I've been interested in a service monitor with spectrum and tracking for some time. Now I'd have the possibility to get an IFR 1900 CSA for $1200, the problem being that power meter and am modulation fail the self test. The plus points I see in this unit are that it's not too old and it seems to

[Repeater-Builder] Info needed on older Kenwood radios...

2008-05-10 Thread Mike Morris WA6ILQ
Does anybody know what microphones fit a Kenwood 231 and 241 ? I'm helping a couple of folks locate parts to resurrect a semi-abandoned city EOC. There are two 231 radios and one 241 radio involved. Does anybody have schematics? All we need to make work is PTT and mic, we don't need DTMF or any

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re:Duplexer Desense Problem - Mystery

2008-05-10 Thread Wayne
this brings up a couple of questions. first, what type of transmitter were you using. Second, how well was it shielded? A Mastr II station would not be as likely to come up with such a problem as long as the normal shielding was not defeated. I can't comment on batwing stations, as I

[Repeater-Builder] Repeaters 4 Sale at Dayton

2008-05-10 Thread Paul Finch
Hello, I will have a high band Motorola 100 watt repeater and a GE 100 UHF repeater, both complete with duplexers for sale at Dayton this year. I will also have several other base stations suitable for framing into a repeater. I will be in spaces 903 and 904. Paul WB5IDM No virus found

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Info needed on older Kenwood radios...

2008-05-10 Thread Gary
Mike, just about any of Kenwood's hand mics with DTMF and the circular 8-pin connector will work fine on those radios including but not limited to the MC-43's and MC-53's. The original mics for both were the teardrop shaped MC-43's which, by the way, sound a bit better on TX than the backlit

Re: [Repeater-Builder] IFR 1900 CSA

2008-05-10 Thread Steve S. Bosshard (NU5D)
One of the few boxes that goes 1296 and beyond. Don't know how much support you can get from AEROFLEX or Cardinal Electronics. Nice box - is more a cell site test unit than a service monitor. I have both an 8921, 1900, and 120B. The 8921 rides with me all the time. Steve NU5D cruizzer77

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Remote Solar - Propane and Wind Radio Repeater and Microwave Sites

2008-05-10 Thread Tony VE6MVP
At 04:16 PM 2008-05-10 +, skipp025 wrote: Well... you're going to need deal with snow? In your location on gray winter days you're probably talking less than 20% to 30% of the summertime solar energy from most solar arrays (on a good day with a tail wind). I thought solar cells were only

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna Gain (WAS antenna question - Dip It and Scotch Kote)

2008-05-10 Thread wb8art
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Custer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve Bosshard wrote: Aluminum gives directivity and pattern - GAIN comes from EIMAC. Now THIS guy knows his stuff. 4CX250R (Eimac) and 2 metersYea! Yeah 8877 Now your talking

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna Gain (WAS antenna question - Dip It and Scotch Kote)

2008-05-10 Thread no6b
At 5/10/2008 10:16, you wrote: Which begs the question: Why are antenna manufacturers and vendors still using dBi to express gain for antennas operating at VHF? The term dBi represents gain of an isotropic (point-source) radiator such as an antenna with a parabolic reflector; it is inappropriate

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna Gain (WAS antenna question - Dip It and Scotch Kote)

2008-05-10 Thread Eric Lemmon
Actually, it's the other way around. The isotropic radiator is what's theoretical. The TIA-329-C standard provides instructions for creating a real-world reference dipole radiator, upon which real-world measurements can be based.. There are many antenna experts who disagree with some of Cebik's

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Remote Solar - Propane and Wind Radio Repeater and Microwave Sites

2008-05-10 Thread skipp025
Tony VE6MVP [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought solar cells were only 10-15% efficient on cloudy days? And days up here are about one to two hours shorter up here in winter compared to you folks in the Pacific NW. Although you likely get a lot more cloudy days than we do. There is no

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re:Duplexer Desense Problem - Mystery

2008-05-10 Thread Ron Wright
A CPU I use devides the crystal by 12 and with a 3.58 MHz xtal this becomes about 300 kHz and of course with lots of harmonics. I simply changed the crystal to 4.x MHz and fixed the problem. DTMF decoder/encoders that use a typical 3.58 crystal do not cause this problem. Did not affect

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna Gain (WAS antenna question - Dip It and Scotch Kote)

2008-05-10 Thread no6b
At 5/10/2008 17:58, you wrote: Actually, it's the other way around. The isotropic radiator is what's theoretical. The TIA-329-C standard provides instructions for creating a real-world reference dipole radiator, upon which real-world measurements can be based.. There are many antenna experts who

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re:Duplexer Desense Problem - Mystery

2008-05-10 Thread Mike Morris WA6ILQ
Sometimes figure out what the 41st harmonic of the color burst crystal is and why a handheld or a scanner can't listen to the 146.76 repeater. At 06:46 PM 05/10/08, you wrote: A CPU I use devides the crystal by 12 and with a 3.58 MHz xtal this becomes about 300 kHz and of course with lots

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna Gain (WAS antenna question - Dip It and Scotch Kote)

2008-05-10 Thread Ron Wright
I think what ever standard, dbi or dbd, one can interupt the differences. The main problem is the number in front...is it real. Most Ham antennas it is not and only db should be stated and can be interuped as dbwn...db with respect to a wet noodle :) I prefer the dbd just because it give a

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna Gain (WAS antenna question - Dip Itand Scotch Kote)

2008-05-10 Thread mch
I think the difference is 2.1 dB. Joe M. I think what ever standard, dbi or dbd, one can interupt the differences. The main problem is the number in front...is it real. Most Ham antennas it is not and only db should be stated and can be interuped as dbwn...db with respect to a wet noodle

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Info needed on older Kenwood radios...

2008-05-10 Thread MR. B
Go to the microphone connection page http://homepage.ntlworld.com/rg4wpw/date.html Ron Gary wrote: Mike, just about any of Kenwood's hand mics with DTMF and the circular 8-pin connector will work fine on those radios including but not limited to the MC-43's and MC-53's. The

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna Gain (WAS antenna question - Dip It and Scotch Kote)

2008-05-10 Thread Eric Lemmon
Ron, Well said, and I think almost every Ham would agree with you. The difference between dBd and dBi is (generally) about 2.14 dB. Some manufacturers of commercial-grade antennas, such as Celwave, Andrew, and Sinclair, already make a clear distinction by expressing gain in dBd as the primary

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Info needed on older Kenwood radios...

2008-05-10 Thread Ron Wright
Mike, The TM241 uses a MC-44 mike. The MC44DM has the DTMF pad. My 241a mike had no model on it. Try http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/fm_txvrs/TM241A.html for info on the 241. It has long been discountinued. I use mine for packet. 73, ron, n9ee/r Ron Wright, N9EE 727-376-6575

[Repeater-Builder] Re: antenna question - Dip It and Scotch Kote and Kry

2008-05-10 Thread Laryn Lohman
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Paul Finch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: By the way, I was admitting I made an error reading the gain. I think I transposed the 9 MHz bandwidth with the gain, my error. Paul I appreciate the admission Paul. I always try to keep an open mind though.