Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Repeater coordination

2008-11-03 Thread MCH
That assumes that a coordination should last forever once granted. A lot of coordinators would have a big problem with that thinking. In some areas, a coordination does not expire, but in some, they DO. If it does, the person should have no expectation that it's still valid if it has an

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Repeater coordination

2008-11-03 Thread Kevin Custer
MCH wrote: Coordination is not required, but when one repeater is coordinated, and the other is not, *the uncoordinated one must resolve the problem*. That's in Part 97. I'll pick on Joe here a minute The rules state that it is *primarily* the responsibility of the uncoordinated repeater

RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Repeater coordination

2008-11-03 Thread Daron Wilson
Daron - In a perfect world you would be correct. But unforunately amateur radio coordination is far from perfect. Regarding some of the systems that the ORRC believe are uncoordinated which I am affilated, that is because they do not recognize the 2 other coordinating bodies in Oregon.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Repeater coordination

2008-11-03 Thread MCH
True, but what alternative is there to eliminate the interference other than a change to the uncoordinated system? (especially with a CSQ repeater that is causing harmful interference) In this case, the addition of CTCSS/CDCSS would resolve it to the satisfaction of the coordinated trustee,

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Repeater coordination

2008-11-03 Thread Kevin Custer
Camilo So wrote: First of all I want to apologize to the Moderator for bringing up a of topic on this group, most of all thank you to every one that reply specially Joe M. (MCH) this is the same shortcut my XYL is working at (Miami Children Hospital). Again thanks to all. Since you followed

[Repeater-Builder] EFJ Viking Base Stations F.S

2008-11-03 Thread Gareth Bennett (Ihug)
Greeting group, We have the following E.F Johnson Viking Base Stations for sale: 10x 800 MHz 75 Watt (Immaculate condition) Model:242-2008-X32 Asking $USD $1,800 each Regards Gareth Bennett (Technical Services) Signals NZ Ltd 8 Manor Place P.O. Box 1439 Dunedin 9015 New Zealand Phone :

[Repeater-Builder] FS: 2M WACOM WP-639 BpBr Duplexer

2008-11-03 Thread w4dg.geo
*I have several interested parties for this item but lost my email data file! I am placing this ad again - those who responded last week please send another email! TNX - Dennis Griffin- W4DG For Sale: one (1) WACOM Model# WP-639 BpBr Circuit 2M Duplexer currently tuned at 146T91 146R31.

[Repeater-Builder] FS: Decibel Products 450Mhz. Duplexer

2008-11-03 Thread w4dg.geo
*I have several interested parties for this item but lost my email data file! I am placing this ad again - those who responded last week please send another email! TNX - Dennis Griffin- W4DG For Sale: one (1) Decibel Products MODEL# DB4071, Serial #D87853 450Mhz. duplexer. Currently tuned for

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Repeater coordination

2008-11-03 Thread MCH
And how do you know that? How do you know that the repeater wasn't turned back on after the guy heard another repeater on 'his frequency'. How do you know it wasn't ever off the air? You don't. As I said, don't assume facts. Joe M. JOHN MACKEY wrote: Coordination is intended to avoid

RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Repeater coordination

2008-11-03 Thread Daron Wilson
It is a fact the NFCC recognition/certification means zero in the eyes of the FCC. What matters is recognition by the local constituency. I'm curious and would enjoy the documentation you have that shows that statement to be factual. I can understand that if there is a legal conflict between

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Repeater coordination

2008-11-03 Thread Paul Plack
...another system owner wrote me a terse email because he could hear my new repeater on his channel on his base station, about 80 miles away. Which, of course, does not meet the definition of interference.

[Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: Repeater coordination

2008-11-03 Thread lenaw12
Moderator(s)... This topic has become COMPLETELY OFF-TOPIC...(and unruly) I suggest it be terminated... LW ...and I approve THIS message1 --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Daron Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Daron - In a perfect world you would be correct. But unforunately

[Repeater-Builder] Fs: Hamtronics UHF Repeater, CSI TP-38 PD Duplexer $700.00

2008-11-03 Thread kc8gpd
I'm selling a Hamtronics REP-100, 700mW Repeater, CSI TP-38 Tone Panel, 45 Watt Amplifier Deck, Phelps Dodge UHF Duplexer, GE Power Supply, all mounted in a 2ft high rack cabinet. I'm asking $700.00. all presently tuned to 462.675 Tx / 467.675 Rx. I have manuals for the REP-100 and TP-38. the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola GTX Cover removal?

2008-11-03 Thread Richard Deering
Carefully, There are screwdriver slots on the sides in front of and rear odfthe mounting screws goes. The covers are tough and can take some twisting.   --- On Sat, 11/1/08, res1q6fs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: res1q6fs [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola GTX Cover

[Repeater-Builder] Fs: Hamtronics UHF Repeater Duplexer $700.00 - CNJ

2008-11-03 Thread Rev. Robert P. Chrysafis
Hi Group, I'm selling a Hamtronics REP-100, 700mW Repeater, CSI TP-38 Tone Panel, 45 Watt Amplifier Deck, Phelps Dodge (4 cavity, I Think) UHF Duplexer, GE Power Supply, all mounted in a 2ft high rack cabinet. I'm asking $700.00. all presently tuned to 462.675 Tx / 467.675 Rx. I have manuals

[Repeater-Builder] Re: FS: 2M WACOM WP-639 BpBr Duplexer

2008-11-03 Thread bratwhatwoman
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, w4dg.geo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Still for sale: 2m WACOM WP-639 Duplexer. Asking $650 + shipping. Offers considered. this is kf4kqe what is your least offer that you will take.

[Repeater-Builder] Re: HTX-202 RUBBER DUCK WANTED.

2008-11-03 Thread Albert
I personally do not have one but I bet you the guys over on the HTX group would have one. Give them a shout. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HTX_VHF_UHF/ Good luck! Albert --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, n8rtn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi,iam looking for a Original htx-202 rubber

RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Repeater coordination

2008-11-03 Thread no6b
At 11/3/2008 07:20, you wrote: Daron - In a perfect world you would be correct. But unforunately amateur radio coordination is far from perfect. Regarding some of the systems that the ORRC believe are uncoordinated which I am affilated, that is because they do not recognize the 2 other

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna Hardware

2008-11-03 Thread Jeff DePolo
For hod-dipped galv U-bolts, Rohn always had a good selection. I don't know if I've ordered any since Radian took over. Pirod/Valmont also used to have a good selection of hardware, though I found that a lot of what they had wasn't always in their catalog or on the web site. For stainless, if

[Repeater-Builder] Re: DTMF/toneburst silencer/blocker

2008-11-03 Thread cruizzer77
Thank you all for your inputs. I think I'll use the Arcom RAD design if I can get the IC they use; I prefer homebrewing... 73 de Martin HB9TZW --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Jim Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Most DTMF decoder chips have an output that transitions when a valid

RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Repeater coordination

2008-11-03 Thread JOHN MACKEY
Daron- The NFCC does not create coordination councils. The constituents recognize their own coordination council. I'll give you a specific example in your own area/council, which happened many years before you were on the scene. In Oregon packet radio was originally coordinated by some group

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Repeater coordination

2008-11-03 Thread JOHN MACKEY
Try telling that to the Oregon Region Relay Council. In 1995 I had my repeater coordination revoked due to that exact reason. -- Original Message -- Received: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 08:59:54 AM PST From: Paul Plack [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re:

RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Repeater coordination

2008-11-03 Thread Daron Wilson
Daron- The NFCC does not create coordination councils. The constituents recognize their own coordination council. John.I never made any reference to the NFCC creating anything, I simply pointed out the one recognized group for Oregon per the NFCC. The 'constituents' of Oregon did exactly

RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Repeater coordination

2008-11-03 Thread JOHN MACKEY
Daron- There is no reason why other coordination groups need to jump thru the hoops (what you called provisions in the bylaws) of the ORRC to become coordinating bodies. Instead they can do exactly the same as the ORRC did and have their 'constituents' recognize the group they desire. If it was

RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Repeater coordination

2008-11-03 Thread Daron Wilson
There is no reason why other coordination groups need to jump thru the hoops (what you called provisions in the bylaws) of the ORRC to become coordinating bodies. Instead they can do exactly the same as the ORRC did and have their 'constituents' recognize the group they desire. If it was good

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Repeater coordination

2008-11-03 Thread Kevin Custer
My intention was not to provide a resolution, but to point out the responsibility of said resolution does not fall solely on the un dude... So says the FCC rules. Kevin True, but what alternative. Kevin Custer wrote: MCH wrote: Coordination is not required, but when one

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Repeater coordination

2008-11-03 Thread MCH
This thread has gone from helping out a builder with a coordination problem to a discussion of internal ORRC politics. The only question I would have is whether any of the OTHER coordinators are working with anyone other than ORRC. If not, the new groups are not considering the existing

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna Hardware

2008-11-03 Thread n9wys
I wonder if they are metric rather than standard sized u-bolts? This might account for the difference in size... Mark - N9WYS -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of Chuck Kelsey The application is a small side-arm bracket. I made it from aluminum square

[Repeater-Builder] 10 Volt regulator control from an master 2,i need a piece!!!!!!!!!

2008-11-03 Thread gervais
Hi all, some month ago i sent a message about a part that i need on my 10 Volt regulator card from my master 2 repeater.I am sorry to say that i dont rememeber what anser i recieved,if you look at the Front panel of the card you will see a slide switch INTERCOM at her left there is an head