Re: [Repeater-Builder] Decibel dipole array sweeps

2009-03-23 Thread Kris Kirby
On Sun, 22 Mar 2009, k5in wrote: This is directed to you: If I have a DB413 and I am going to use it on 441.950 you are saying there will be some down tilt in the pattern? This doesn't bother me. I am more curious than anything about this antenna that is due to go up 140ft on a tower in a

RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Making PDFs

2009-03-23 Thread Barry
Mac ? hahaha try one of the free pdf generators like cutepdf To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com From: da...@wcf.com Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 15:55:51 -0700 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Making PDFs At 15:37 3/22/2009, Kris Kirby wrote: No way around

[Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: Making PDFs

2009-03-23 Thread iamcranked
Sorry Dave, Didn't get that you started the new thread and wasn't having a problem...but was just making a comment ... A bit dense here. Larry - N7FM --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Dave Gomberg da...@... wrote: At 15:37 3/22/2009, Kris Kirby wrote: No way around it unless I want

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Decibel dipole array sweeps

2009-03-23 Thread Mike Morris WA6ILQ
At 03:53 PM 03/22/09, you wrote: --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Kris Kirby k...@... wrote: The results, I would say in practical terms, is that a DB-224 cut for 165MHz isn't a bad thing. You'll experience some uptilt. But matching the antenna to a 50-ohm transmitter is another

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Decibel dipole array sweeps (followup)

2009-03-23 Thread Mike Morris WA6ILQ
I wrote, and sent too s At 03:53 PM 03/22/09, you wrote: --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Kris Kirby k...@... wrote: The results, I would say in practical terms, is that a DB-224 cut for 165MHz isn't a bad thing. You'll experience some uptilt. But matching the antenna to a 50-ohm

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Decibel dipole array sweeps

2009-03-23 Thread Nate Duehr
On Mar 22, 2009, at 7:18 PM, n...@no6b.com wrote: By now I've already managed to get the original PDF downconverted to something everyone should be able to read. Then again, unless you're going to print it HTML is the most universal format. Actually straight ASCII is the most universal.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Decibel dipole array sweeps

2009-03-23 Thread Nate Duehr
On Mar 22, 2009, at 5:11 PM, Jeff DePolo wrote: I have a Sinclair 8-bay with half-wave element to mast spacing stored in the Sitemaster, but it was swept from the far end of 600' of 1-5/8 with a topside TX-RX crossband coupler. It's spec'ed for 406-512 MHz. I can't keep track of

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Decibel dipole array sweeps

2009-03-23 Thread Chuck Kelsey
Check the antenna for VSWR at that frequency BEFORE it goes up. It's probably going to be borderline. - Original Message - On Sun, 22 Mar 2009, k5in wrote: If I have a DB413 and I am going to use it on 441.950

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Master II station 66 split conversion to 56 split

2009-03-23 Thread Morris Dillingham
Well, that's good news. Maybe that's why I could find no references to the replacement procedure. I suppose that NHRC is being cautious in case mileage varies. 73 de Morris KI4IUA -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com]

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Master II station 66 split conversion to 56 split

2009-03-23 Thread Morris Dillingham
Since we are retuning to 147.330 transmit and 147.930 receive, we are at the end of the band that should help. Thanks to all for the reassurance. 73 de Morris KI4IUA -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater- buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of

RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Making PDFs

2009-03-23 Thread no6b
At 3/22/2009 23:34, you wrote: Mac ? hahaha try one of the free pdf generators like cutepdf As stated in my previous post, none of these low-end PDF solutions are usable for my application. Bob NO6B

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Decibel dipole array sweeps

2009-03-23 Thread no6b
At 3/23/2009 01:29, you wrote: On Mar 22, 2009, at 7:18 PM, n...@no6b.com wrote: By now I've already managed to get the original PDF downconverted to something everyone should be able to read. Then again, unless you're going to print it HTML is the most universal format. Actually

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Decibel dipole array sweeps

2009-03-23 Thread Mark
Thanks, Bob. Apparently you and I are in the same boat. I have the full version of Acrobat 5 installed, and if I try to upgrade the reader only, it corrupts the entire installation. And I'm too cheap to go out and spend the $$$ for a new version. ;-) Thanks! Mark -N9WYS -Original

[Repeater-Builder] Sinclair Q2220E

2009-03-23 Thread Terry
Does anyone have experience using this model on 2 meters? Do they provide enough practical isolation for single antenna, 600kc split? (Sinclair Q2220E 4 Cavity VHF BpBr Repeater)

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Sinclair Q2220E

2009-03-23 Thread n3dab
Yes, but we modified/replaced the loops in the cavities to get better performance. No changes were made to the harness as I recall. I don't recall the Pass/Rejectfigures at the moment (but they were comparable to other 4 cavity 2 mtr. duplexersor slightly better, but the duplexer has been

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Sinclair Q2220E

2009-03-23 Thread Gary Hoff
I did use one on 2 meters however never was able to get more than about 65Db Isolation. Worked OK as long as we kept the transmitter power low. Gary - K7NEY Terry wrote: Does anyone have experience using this model on 2 meters? Do they provide enough practical isolation for single antenna,

RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Making PDFs

2009-03-23 Thread Barry
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com From: n...@no6b.com Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 08:19:36 -0700 Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Making PDFs At 3/22/2009 23:34, you wrote: Mac ? hahaha try one of the free pdf generators like cutepdf As stated in

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Decibel dipole array sweeps

2009-03-23 Thread Dave Gomberg
At 09:01 3/23/2009, Mark wrote: Thanks, Bob. Apparently you and I are in the same boat. I have the full version of Acrobat 5 installed, and if I try to upgrade the reader only, it corrupts the entire installation. And I'm too cheap to go out and spend the $$$ for a new version. ;-) Mark, my

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Decibel dipole array sweeps

2009-03-23 Thread Dave Gomberg
At 09:01 3/23/2009, Mark wrote: Thanks, Bob. Apparently you and I are in the same boat. I have the full version of Acrobat 5 installed, and if I try to upgrade the reader only, it corrupts the entire installation. And I'm too cheap to go out and spend the $$$ for a new version. ;-) Mark, my

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Decibel dipole array sweeps

2009-03-23 Thread Laryn Lohman
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Kris Kirby k...@... wrote: On Sun, 22 Mar 2009, k5in wrote: This is directed to you: If I have a DB413 and I am going to use it on 441.950 you are saying there will be some down tilt in the pattern? No, there will be no downtilt or uptilt with a

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Decibel dipole array sweeps

2009-03-23 Thread rahwayflynn
Folks, I have the received plenty of information on dimensions via email. Thanks! Despite the increase in weight, I am considering using 6016-T6 rod for the elements, rather then tubing. I know that rod can be bent without kinking on a tight radius. It also welds a lot easier then thin wall

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Decibel dipole array sweeps

2009-03-23 Thread k5in
Jeff, Well, for that matter anybody that wants to answer. How long is the mast supposed to be on a DB413? I have one with a mast that is 12ft in length. Does it really matter when it is 140ft in the air, 40 inches off the side of a tower? Brian, k5in - Original Message - From:

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Sinclair Q2220E

2009-03-23 Thread wa6vpl
Is it possible to provide any more details in regard to the mod you made? Thanks, Jim _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of n3dab Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 12:45 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject:

[Repeater-Builder] Fw: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] FCC Ruling on Repeater Definition

2009-03-23 Thread George Henry
Federal Communications Commission Washington, D.C. 20554 March 23, 2009 DA 09-657 Mr. Gary R. Mitchell President, Northern California Packet Association P.O. Box K Sunnyvale, CA 94087 Re: Petition for Declaratory Ruling filed December 5, 2007 Dear Mr. Mitchell: This is in response to the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Decibel dipole array sweeps

2009-03-23 Thread Chuck Kelsey
It doesn't matter if you can achieve the required element-to-element spacing and the top of the mast extends several inches beyond the top of the top element and the bottom of the mast extends several inches below the bottom of the bottom element. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message -

[Repeater-Builder] Asntenna Painting

2009-03-23 Thread chris Inos
I am seeking advise ...but if I can be pointed to the right direction, I will be most appreciative.   This summer, I plan to take down my Cellwave Station Master (repeater antenna) for service, maintenance or painting.   Over the years, moss and algae set in and the bright white fiberglass

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Asntenna Painting

2009-03-23 Thread Eric Lemmon
Chris, This question comes up quite often, but I will repeat the standard response. Go here: www.rfsworld.com/index.php?p=276l=1listName=applicationnotesindexVal=1 If you have any other questions about Celwave Stationmaster antennas, contact the Tech Support folks for more information. 73, Eric

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Asntenna Painting

2009-03-23 Thread rahwayflynn
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, chris Inos chris_i...@... wrote:   This summer, I plan to take down my Cellwave Station Master (repeater antenna) for service, maintenance or painting. When in doubt, go right to the source!

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Sinclair Q2220E

2009-03-23 Thread Eric Lemmon
Terry, Yes, I tried using a Q2220E duplexer on a 2m repeater, with a 600 kHz split, but quickly realized that it was not up to the task. It simply does not have sufficient isolation at a 600 kHz split to be useful at 2m. It is specified to have 70 dB of isolation at a 500 kHz split, but you

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Asntenna Painting

2009-03-23 Thread Rick Szajkowski
from memory 1 good boat fiber glass cleaner ( where gloves !! the glass splinters HURT !) 2 a good gel coat ( type of paint sotra again boat supply store) Make sure there is no metal in the paint ( or Gel Coat ) 3 after the gel coat a good sealer to the gel coat I dont think I would say

[Repeater-Builder] off topic

2009-03-23 Thread Mike DeWaele
Any one know what or how a kenwood tk-710 VHF mobile radio is programmed? I have cables for kenwoods but can't find any software. This is an older radio. Maybe it still has crystals? Google is not my friend this time! Thanks, Mike Ka2NDW

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Asntenna Painting

2009-03-23 Thread Ralph Mowery
--- On Mon, 3/23/09, chris Inos chris_i...@yahoo.com wrote: From: chris Inos chris_i...@yahoo.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Asntenna Painting To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, March 23, 2009, 7:59 PM I am seeking advise ...but if I can be pointed to the right

Re: [Repeater-Builder] FCC Ruling on Repeater Definition

2009-03-23 Thread wd8chl
George Henry wrote: Federal Communications Commission Washington, D.C. 20554 March 23, 2009 DA 09-657 Mr. Gary R. Mitchell President, Northern California Packet Association P.O. Box K Sunnyvale, CA 94087 Re: Petition for Declaratory Ruling filed December 5, 2007 Dear Mr.

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Fw: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] FCC Ruling on Repeater Definition

2009-03-23 Thread Kris Kirby
On Mon, 23 Mar 2009, Eric Lemmon wrote: Perhaps it would serve the public interest better if the actual document were presented, rather than a copy of the text. See the attached. 5 The Commission revised the definition in order to clarify that certain accommodations for message