[Repeater-Builder] Re: MRS2000 VHF Channel element wanted
Hi! I would like to get a Receive Channel Element for a MSR2000 that will tune to 146.00MHZ range. The KXN-1086a channel element will easily operate at 146.00, you need only supply the crystal and carefully solder it to the proper inside location. A KXN-1086a that works at 150/160 MHz should be no problama down at 146 MHz. s.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: MRS2000 VHF Channel element wanted
Where can I get 1 ?? Larry Taylor KF6JBG Home: cvrcsoaring (AT) earthlink (Dot) net RC Club: www.cvrcsoaring.com - Original Message - From: skipp025 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 11:18 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: MRS2000 VHF Channel element wanted Hi! I would like to get a Receive Channel Element for a MSR2000 that will tune to 146.00MHZ range. The KXN-1086a channel element will easily operate at 146.00, you need only supply the crystal and carefully solder it to the proper inside location. A KXN-1086a that works at 150/160 MHz should be no problama down at 146 MHz. s.
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Silver plating of cavities advice please?
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] MRS2000 VHF Channel element wanted
Hi Larry, Are they reject 5Meg split Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ 6886 Sage Ave Firestone, Co 80504 303-736-9693 _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of larryjspamme...@teleport.com Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 9:44 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] MRS2000 VHF Channel element wanted I have some VHF WACOM and TX/RX 6-cavity duplexers available (WA State). Larry lar...@teleport. mailto:lar...@teleport.com com -Original Message- From: Larry Taylor Sent: Jul 12, 2010 10:30 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] MRS2000 VHF Channel element wanted Hi! I would like to get a REC Channel Element for a MSR2000 that will tune to 146.00MHZ range. I have acquired from EBAY most of what I need to make a repeater. The element and a Set of Duplexer I'll have it whipped!! Any help out there??? Larry Taylor KF6JBG Home: cvrcsoaring (AT) earthlink (Dot) net
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Recrystal MSR-2000 Channel Elements
I'm only looking to recoup what I have invested in them... $50 for the pair. At the moment, I have lots of spares, but sure, I'll take another set. If you do Paypal, you can pay me at ka3...@aol.com. George, KA3HSW From: Jeff Lavoie - KB1SPH/WQEX694 kb1...@wqex694.info To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, July 12, 2010 10:17:12 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Recrystal MSR-2000 Channel Elements Actually 462.600 is the frequency I'm currently running my Kenwood on. I would probably be putting the Motorola on the same frequency with a different PL at a different location. That would solve a lot of headaches if you're willing to part with them. I was thinking about doing ham later down the road if GMRS goes away, I'm sure you've all heard about the proposed rule changes. But until I hear that GMRS repeaters are not allowed (or must be narrow band) I'll be setting it up on GMRS. The Kenwood is more set up for a portable repeater for events right now. A group of us get together and help out with events when there aren't enough ham volunteers. Let me know what you want for the channel elements. If you're interested I would be willing to send you a set of channel elements back if you need them as spares. Jeff, KB1SPH / WQEX694 -- From: George Henry ka3...@att.net Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 1:59 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Recrystal MSR-2000 Channel Elements What frequencies are you looking for? Ham or GMRS, I presume... I've got a bunch of MSR-2K elements if you need any, including a set for a 462.600 GMRS repeater. George, KA3HSW / WQGJ413 From: Jeff Lavoie - KB1SPH/WQEX694 kb1...@wqex694.info To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, July 12, 2010 1:15:28 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Recrystal MSR-2000 Channel Elements (and a guacamole recipe) Thanks Skipp, that helps a great deal. I've found a lot of usefule information on repeater-builder.com over the years, but I just finally signed up for the yahoo group yesterday, I don't know why I waited. Bomar sounds like a good place to start with. I got this MSR-2000 for $25 at a hamfest because the guy didn't want to load it up in his truck to take it back home. I was buying a Kenwood TKR-820 and he said, I'll tell you what, I'll give you the pair for $50. How could I go wrong? The Kenwood is working great thanks to repeater-builder.com. On another note, I sent you a message a few days ago, but sometimes yahoo blocks my messagesnot sure why. I was wondering if you had any information about a CSI-32 tone panel and possible firmware upgrades. The EPROM inside has a sticker on it that says the following. 128 v4.0 6289 (I think, hard to read) © CSI - Jeff
[Repeater-Builder] GE Mastr Pro
Does anyone have any info on moving a GE Mastr Pro repeater from VHF commercial to VHF Amateur? I am curious whether anyone has done it, would it be worth it before I end up parting them out for scrap. I also have about a dozen of the Mastr mobile of the era as well. Todd AE7V
Re: [Repeater-Builder] FS GE ICOMS
Do we have a choice of frequency? I need Repeater ICONs Tx 463mhz Rx 468 range. Must be 5Mhz split. (tx low/rx hi) _ Eddie Cope wb5hhz --- On Tue, 7/13/10, Ted Bleiman K9MDM - MDM Radio k9...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Ted Bleiman K9MDM - MDM Radio k9...@yahoo.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] FS GE ICOMS To: repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, July 13, 2010, 10:22 AM G E Icoms $8.50 each plus postage 3 19A129393G11 5C rx 2 19A129393G10 5C rx 6 19A129393G15 2c tx 5 19A129393G4 2c rx 8 19A129393G12 5c rx 1 19A130650G7 2c tx PLL $15 3 19A129393G9 5c rx (low band) MDM Radio 773 255 9838 mdmra...@yahoo. com paypal account name postage will be added send zip code Priority Mail 2-3 days in 50 USA $5.00 any size order Ted Bleiman K9MDM MDM Radio If its in stock...we've got it! P O Box 31353 - Chicago ,IL 60631-0353 Phone 773. 255. 9838 fax 773.775.8096 see our offerings on www.twowayshopper. com www.secondhandradio .com
[Repeater-Builder] Re: GE Mastr Pro
I have done it many years ago. As I recall they take minimum work to use on VHF freqs, but I would go with a later series of GE equipment. Sid. --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Todd todda...@... wrote: Does anyone have any info on moving a GE Mastr Pro repeater from VHF commercial to VHF Amateur? I am curious whether anyone has done it, would it be worth it before I end up parting them out for scrap. I also have about a dozen of the Mastr mobile of the era as well. Todd AE7V
[Repeater-Builder] Re: GE Mastr Pro
Todd todda...@... wrote: Does anyone have any info on moving a GE Mastr Pro repeater from VHF commercial to VHF Amateur? I am curious whether anyone has done it, would it be worth it before I end up parting them out for scrap. I also have about a dozen of the Mastr mobile of the era as well. Todd AE7V Hold that Tiger! Don't scrap the radio if you can help it. Sure the GE Master Pro will pretty much dial right down onto the ham bands with only readjustment and a capacitor or two change in the receiver crystal injection stages. And the Master Pro Receiver works just killer (great) and will still hold its own in rugged location service. s.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Silver Plating - Cheap Easy
Thanks for the info George. Yes, the use of the word developer was most likely my bad. I did processing in my teen years, had my own darkroom and while writting the below, I was thinking of Hypo. Bbut then a lot has changed in the past 70 years since my developing days and I assumed things may have changed and the process along with it. Your thoughts are appreciated and I'll file this away for future use. Thanks and 73 Gene --- On Mon, 7/12/10, George Henry ka3...@att.net wrote: From: George Henry ka3...@att.net Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Silver Plating - Cheap Easy To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, July 12, 2010, 1:53 PM It's actually used photographic FIXER that contains a lot of free silver... the fixer removes any unexposed silver in the film emulsion. For many years I recovered the silver from my fixer by adding powdered zinc, which will dissolve more easily in the solution than silver will, causing the silver to precipitate out. Collected over 28 ounces over the years. His method of silver plating probably involved connecting the negative lead of a low-voltage source to the can, filling it with used fixer, and then suspending a zinc electrode in the solution, connected to the positive lead. The zinc goes into solution, and the silver, instead of precipitating out, plates out onto the can. If the fixer is sufficiently loaded with silver (exhausted, in photo-speak), it will plate out on copper without any current source, but adding the batteries will speed things up result in a thicker layer of silver. George, KA3HSW From: cecil ferguson ke4...@bellsouth.net To: Repeater Builder Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, July 12, 2010 7:08:36 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Silver Plating - Cheap Easy A couple of years back, in an exchange with an engineer from Texas Instrument Germany, who is working in Freising, Barvaria, I was told of a cheap and easy silver plating procedure he uses on his duplexers. He uses Photographic Developer (which has a really high level of 'free silver') and a simple one or two cell power source = 1.5 to 3.0 volts. (While not discussed, I would suggest that 'used fluid' may be better than new and may be obtained very cheaply). This should be an ideal solution for the DIYers in our group. If interested, why not contact Hans-Juergan Schott directly at h-scho...@ti. com ? This should be an interesting topic for our Tecnical Info page as well. Hans-Juergan, if you are monitoring, pls forward this procedure to us as I think many of us would be interested. Tnx. 73 to all, Cecil E (Gene) Ferguson. W4FWG
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Tinkering with Repeater Controller firmware - source code
At 7/12/2010 20:56, you wrote: Jeff Lavoie - KB1SPH/WQEX694 kb1...@... wrote: Ok, I can get you the date code tomorrow if you find some spare time to check. It's too bad I couldn't get a copy of the original code and maybe modify it myself. I like to tinker around with existing programming a bit, but I wouldn't know where to begin if I were to start from scratch. Jeff, KB1SPH / WQEX694 I have to look at whet ever the processor is to comment on modifying the code. I'm reversing out the source code for one of the ACC Repeater Controllers and it's not for the casual person to attempt. At 443 pages of disassembled source code I'd say you really have to want to do something like this. And I'm doing it for fun... Was the original code done in an assembler (my guess, given the vintage)? Have you asked Link Comm if by chance they have any source code? Bob NO6B
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GE Mastr Pro
i agree...I have at least 6 of them on UHFeither on the ham bands or business radio...they still work great! de KM3W From: skipp025 skipp...@yahoo.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, July 13, 2010 4:52:38 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GE Mastr Pro Todd todda...@... wrote: Does anyone have any info on moving a GE Mastr Pro repeater from VHF commercial to VHF Amateur? I am curious whether anyone has done it, would it be worth it before I end up parting them out for scrap. I also have about a dozen of the Mastr mobile of the era as well. Todd AE7V Hold that Tiger! Don't scrap the radio if you can help it. Sure the GE Master Pro will pretty much dial right down onto the ham bands with only readjustment and a capacitor or two change in the receiver crystal injection stages. And the Master Pro Receiver works just killer (great) and will still hold its own in rugged location service. s.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Tinkering with Repeater Controller firmware - source code
Best I can tell the original code was written in assembler on an IMASI 8080 with a development system of some kind. Last I checked the source code from Link Communications was not available. On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 4:12 PM, n...@no6b.com wrote: At 7/12/2010 20:56, you wrote: Jeff Lavoie - KB1SPH/WQEX694 kb1...@... wrote: Ok, I can get you the date code tomorrow if you find some spare time to check. It's too bad I couldn't get a copy of the original code and maybe modify it myself. I like to tinker around with existing programming a bit, but I wouldn't know where to begin if I were to start from scratch. Jeff, KB1SPH / WQEX694 I have to look at whet ever the processor is to comment on modifying the code. I'm reversing out the source code for one of the ACC Repeater Controllers and it's not for the casual person to attempt. At 443 pages of disassembled source code I'd say you really have to want to do something like this. And I'm doing it for fun... Was the original code done in an assembler (my guess, given the vintage)? Have you asked Link Comm if by chance they have any source code? Bob NO6B Yahoo! Groups Links
[Repeater-Builder] question for commercial radio shops
If a person whom you knew and is involved in a number of church youth camps activities asked you to program FRS frequencies into a 4w UHF HT type accepted for LMR would you do so ? It would only be for extended range at camp. My gut is to tell him no... Sorry for the slightly off topic postI just need a little extra thought on the subject... Bad thing is the person asking is the captain of my Volunteer FD. 73, Jon
Re: [Repeater-Builder] GE Mastr Pro
They usually tune up fine. I have taken several of the 90 watt transmitter strips and receiver down to 146 Mhz with little or no problem. Occasionally the coupling with the final has to be slightly fiddled with to get a better match. -- Original Message -- Received: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 11:32:06 AM PDT From: Todd todda...@yahoo.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] GE Mastr Pro Does anyone have any info on moving a GE Mastr Pro repeater from VHF commercial to VHF Amateur? I am curious whether anyone has done it, would it be worth it before I end up parting them out for scrap. I also have about a dozen of the Mastr mobile of the era as well. Todd AE7V
RE: [Repeater-Builder] question for commercial radio shops
I pastor a motorcycle ministry and have no problem saying no to illegal or fringe favors from fellow church members. I also try to help them find a legal solution to whatever problem/project they have. Good luck Kb0wlf -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater- buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of KD5SFA Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 7:24 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] question for commercial radio shops If a person whom you knew and is involved in a number of church youth camps activities asked you to program FRS frequencies into a 4w UHF HT type accepted for LMR would you do so ? It would only be for extended range at camp. My gut is to tell him no... Sorry for the slightly off topic postI just need a little extra thought on the subject... Bad thing is the person asking is the captain of my Volunteer FD. 73, Jon Yahoo! Groups Links No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.441 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2962 - Release Date: 07/13/10 06:36:00
RE: [Repeater-Builder] question for commercial radio shops
I'd tell him no, because it is illegal. Richard, N7TGB www.n7tgb.net The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money --Margaret Thatcher _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of KD5SFA Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 5:24 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] question for commercial radio shops If a person whom you knew and is involved in a number of church youth camps activities asked you to program FRS frequencies into a 4w UHF HT type accepted for LMR would you do so ? It would only be for extended range at camp. My gut is to tell him no... Sorry for the slightly off topic postI just need a little extra thought on the subject... Bad thing is the person asking is the captain of my Volunteer FD. 73, Jon
Re: [Repeater-Builder] question for commercial radio shops
Thanks... I just wanted a quick gut check to make sure I wasn't being overly cautious... 73, Jon KD5SFA
Re: [Repeater-Builder] question for commercial radio shops
If everyone using them had a GMRS license (one license covers the family) you could probably get away with using GMRS frequencies, but not FRS. Some part 90 radios were certified for part 95 as well, mostly Kenwood I think. Motorola radios were not part 95 certified usually because of the digital capabilities (MDC, STAR) and Motorola didn't want to sell cheap radios, they're a bit greedy and wanted the big bucks from commercial. Of course, that doesn't stop some of us from using them anyway. In the end, it's up to you, but I would say no to FRS. An alternative may be to find some cheap MURS radios. They are license free and I think they're allowed up to 2 watts as opposed to the 500mw FRS. Also, if they are using bubble pack FRS radios on a channel higher than 7, chances are (if they are made within the last few years) they are just as powerful as the LMR radios. The only difference is usually the antenna, they probably have the equivalent to a stubby uhf antenna on the LMR radios, which does make a difference in range. I really do not think it would help the range too much, unless you're talking about using mobiles, then I would definitely say no to doing it. Jeff, KB1SPH / WQEX694 -- From: Chris Curtis demo...@rollanet.org Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 8:29 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] question for commercial radio shops I pastor a motorcycle ministry and have no problem saying no to illegal or fringe favors from fellow church members. I also try to help them find a legal solution to whatever problem/project they have. Good luck Kb0wlf -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater- buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of KD5SFA Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 7:24 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] question for commercial radio shops If a person whom you knew and is involved in a number of church youth camps activities asked you to program FRS frequencies into a 4w UHF HT type accepted for LMR would you do so ? It would only be for extended range at camp. My gut is to tell him no... Sorry for the slightly off topic postI just need a little extra thought on the subject... Bad thing is the person asking is the captain of my Volunteer FD. 73, Jon Yahoo! Groups Links No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.441 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2962 - Release Date: 07/13/10 06:36:00 Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] question for commercial radio shops
Explain to him that it's not legal, and tell him you would not be comfortable doing something that is not legal, as you could jeopardize your FCC license(s) which you have worked very hard to earn. You can even show him the Part 95 rules where it has the limitations on what equipment you can use - including the part about the antennas being non-removable. Joe M. KD5SFA wrote: If a person whom you knew and is involved in a number of church youth camps activities asked you to program FRS frequencies into a 4w UHF HT type accepted for LMR would you do so ? It would only be for extended range at camp. My gut is to tell him no... Sorry for the slightly off topic postI just need a little extra thought on the subject... Bad thing is the person asking is the captain of my Volunteer FD. 73, Jon Yahoo! Groups Links Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.783 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2746 - Release Date: 03/14/10 03:33:00
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Tinkering with Repeater Controller firmware - source code
I'm reversing out the source code for one of the ACC Repeater Controllers and it's not for the casual person to attempt. Was the original code done in an assembler (my guess, given the vintage)? Yep, it's all in assembly language and so far fairly straight forward. The process is taking a lot more time than I ever thought it would but I trudge on (hopefully forward). Have you asked Link Comm if by chance they have any source code? Bob NO6B If Link has it (which I probably doubt they do) I wouldn't expect them to share it... I was very appreciative of Alan and Steve supporting the ACC Controllers by supplying the last versions of firmware, copies of manuals and a replacement Eprom retrofit kit for as long as they did. And I wanted an excuse to bring my SDK-85 and ENMAC 8085 Trainers back out of storage. s.
[Repeater-Builder] Re: question for commercial radio shops
If a person whom you knew and is involved in a number of church youth camps activities asked you to program FRS frequencies into a 4w UHF HT type accepted for LMR would you do so ? It would only be for extended range at camp. If the radio power can be reduced, turn it down and program the FRS frequencies in. If the power can't be reduced, put the radios on GMRS Frequencies. Many of the Kenwood Portables I sell allow power level programming per channel so the FRS gets low and the other stuff gets the nominal rated power. FRS Radios are sold cheap at the big box stores... try to find the ones that allow you to turn off the $...@%@*% stupid roger beeps s.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: question for commercial radio shops
Hey, what's wrong with a roger beep?'beep' On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 9:56 PM, skipp025 skipp...@yahoo.com wrote: If a person whom you knew and is involved in a number of church youth camps activities asked you to program FRS frequencies into a 4w UHF HT type accepted for LMR would you do so ? It would only be for extended range at camp. If the radio power can be reduced, turn it down and program the FRS frequencies in. If the power can't be reduced, put the radios on GMRS Frequencies. Many of the Kenwood Portables I sell allow power level programming per channel so the FRS gets low and the other stuff gets the nominal rated power. FRS Radios are sold cheap at the big box stores... try to find the ones that allow you to turn off the $...@%@*% stupid roger beeps s.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: question for commercial radio shops
Nothing if you're name is roger. From: Larry Horlick Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 10:02 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: question for commercial radio shops Hey, what's wrong with a roger beep?'beep' On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 9:56 PM, skipp025 skipp...@yahoo.com wrote: If a person whom you knew and is involved in a number of church youth camps activities asked you to program FRS frequencies into a 4w UHF HT type accepted for LMR would you do so ? It would only be for extended range at camp. If the radio power can be reduced, turn it down and program the FRS frequencies in. If the power can't be reduced, put the radios on GMRS Frequencies. Many of the Kenwood Portables I sell allow power level programming per channel so the FRS gets low and the other stuff gets the nominal rated power. FRS Radios are sold cheap at the big box stores... try to find the ones that allow you to turn off the $...@%@*% stupid roger beeps s. Emoticon1.gif
RE: [Repeater-Builder] question for commercial radio shops
Had a similar request from a large church that I was working Midnight Security for , They knew I was a Ham and They ask if I could set them up a FM Broadcast station , so when they have Plays and Service the Pastor could have someone Translate it to English for the Spanish spacing church members He would get some cheap FM type walkmans . I said sure Have you already applied for a lic or have one , He stated oh don't worry about that it will be low power and they would have Me find a clear spot . Well I politely told them My Ham Radio Lic would be at risk and I could not do it , So they had someone get on E-Bay and ordered a 25 Watt FM Transmitter and outside ant and have been on the Air for 2 Yrs . They have almost the coverage of My 2 Repeaters Good Luck Don KA9QJG PS Being a nice Person and helping do something illegal Can always come back in bite you in your A*^ I do not know of many Lic Two Way shops that will risk their Lic to do stuff like This , and Most for some reason Hate Ham Radio Operators for some reason They think We carry ourselves as knowing Everything where in the heck would they get that idea lol From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of MCH Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 8:38 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] question for commercial radio shops Explain to him that it's not legal, and tell him you would not be comfortable doing something that is not legal, as you could jeopardize your FCC license(s) which you have worked very hard to earn. You can even show him the Part 95 rules where it has the limitations on what equipment you can use - including the part about the antennas being non-removable. Joe M. KD5SFA wrote: If a person whom you knew and is involved in a number of church youth camps activities asked you to program FRS frequencies into a 4w UHF HT type accepted for LMR would you do so ? It would only be for extended range at camp. My gut is to tell him no... Sorry for the slightly off topic postI just need a little extra thought on the subject... Bad thing is the person asking is the captain of my Volunteer FD. 73, Jon
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: question for commercial radio shops
Meant a lot to the First Astronauts with Communications that is how it got started I think , I forget if it was a Pre or after Transmission Don KA9QJG Nothing if you're name is roger. Smile emoticon From: Larry Horlick mailto:llhorl...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 10:02 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: question for commercial radio shops Hey, what's wrong with a roger beep?'beep' On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 9:56 PM, skipp025 skipp...@yahoo.com wrote: image001.gif
RE: [Repeater-Builder] question for commercial radio shops
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com From: kd5...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 00:23:43 + Subject: [Repeater-Builder] question for commercial radio shops If a person whom you knew and is involved in a number of church youth camps activities asked you to program FRS frequencies into a 4w UHF HT type accepted for LMR would you do so ? It would only be for extended range at camp. My gut is to tell him no... Sorry for the slightly off topic postI just need a little extra thought on the subject... Bad thing is the person asking is the captain of my Volunteer FD. 73, Jon Is it legal ? will you get bitten on the butt ? imho a two letter answer _ Need a new place to live? Find it on Domain.com.au http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157631292/direct/01/
[Repeater-Builder] Re: RogerBeep (Quindar)
http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/quindar.html On 7/13/2010 10:02 PM, ka9qjg wrote: Meant a lot to the First Astronauts with Communications that is how it got started I think , I forget if it was a Pre or after Transmission Don KA9QJG -- mailto:o...@ozindfw.net Oz POB 93167 Southlake, TX 76092 (Near DFW Airport)
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: question for commercial radio shops
Spacecraft systems are full-duplex. The purpose of the Quindar tones was to mute the uplink audio when Houston had nothing to say. ka9qjg wrote: Meant a lot to the First Astronauts with Communications that is how it got started I think , I forget if it was a Pre or after Transmission Don KA9QJ
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: question for commercial radio shops
That would make some interesting research. Honestly I like having my repeater controller do a beep at a lower audio level when someone un-keys. Low enough to be heard, but not be a nuisance. If someone is closer to the repeater you may not know if they've un-keyed until the repeater itself drops out. With a courtesy tone (as they're called now) it lets the other person know you've un-keyed and they can key up again. But I'll admit some of these beeps that the bubble packs and CBs have are really annoying. Jeff, KB1SPH / WQEX694 From: ka9qjg Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 11:02 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: question for commercial radio shops Meant a lot to the First Astronauts with Communications that is how it got started I think , I forget if it was a Pre or after Transmission Don KA9QJG Nothing if you're name is roger. From: Larry Horlick Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 10:02 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: question for commercial radio shops Hey, what's wrong with a roger beep?'beep' On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 9:56 PM, skipp025 skipp...@yahoo.com wrote: image001.gif
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Recrystal MSR-2000 Channel Elements
George, sent the money. It will come from a different e-mail address, but it will have my name. Jeff, KB1SPH / WQEX694 -- From: George Henry ka3...@att.net Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 1:49 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Recrystal MSR-2000 Channel Elements I'm only looking to recoup what I have invested in them... $50 for the pair. At the moment, I have lots of spares, but sure, I'll take another set. If you do Paypal, you can pay me at ka3...@aol.com. George, KA3HSW From: Jeff Lavoie - KB1SPH/WQEX694 kb1...@wqex694.info To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, July 12, 2010 10:17:12 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Recrystal MSR-2000 Channel Elements Actually 462.600 is the frequency I'm currently running my Kenwood on. I would probably be putting the Motorola on the same frequency with a different PL at a different location. That would solve a lot of headaches if you're willing to part with them. I was thinking about doing ham later down the road if GMRS goes away, I'm sure you've all heard about the proposed rule changes. But until I hear that GMRS repeaters are not allowed (or must be narrow band) I'll be setting it up on GMRS. The Kenwood is more set up for a portable repeater for events right now. A group of us get together and help out with events when there aren't enough ham volunteers. Let me know what you want for the channel elements. If you're interested I would be willing to send you a set of channel elements back if you need them as spares. Jeff, KB1SPH / WQEX694 -- From: George Henry ka3...@att.net Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 1:59 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Recrystal MSR-2000 Channel Elements What frequencies are you looking for? Ham or GMRS, I presume... I've got a bunch of MSR-2K elements if you need any, including a set for a 462.600 GMRS repeater. George, KA3HSW / WQGJ413 From: Jeff Lavoie - KB1SPH/WQEX694 kb1...@wqex694.info To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, July 12, 2010 1:15:28 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Recrystal MSR-2000 Channel Elements (and a guacamole recipe) Thanks Skipp, that helps a great deal. I've found a lot of usefule information on repeater-builder.com over the years, but I just finally signed up for the yahoo group yesterday, I don't know why I waited. Bomar sounds like a good place to start with. I got this MSR-2000 for $25 at a hamfest because the guy didn't want to load it up in his truck to take it back home. I was buying a Kenwood TKR-820 and he said, I'll tell you what, I'll give you the pair for $50. How could I go wrong? The Kenwood is working great thanks to repeater-builder.com. On another note, I sent you a message a few days ago, but sometimes yahoo blocks my messagesnot sure why. I was wondering if you had any information about a CSI-32 tone panel and possible firmware upgrades. The EPROM inside has a sticker on it that says the following. 128 v4.0 6289 (I think, hard to read) © CSI - Jeff Yahoo! Groups Links
[Repeater-Builder] Re: question for commercial radio shops
Didn't one of the large radio dealers recently get a hefty fine for programming radios on frequencies that the user did not have a license for ?? CJD --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, KD5SFA kd5...@... wrote: If a person whom you knew and is involved in a number of church youth camps activities asked you to program FRS frequencies into a 4w UHF HT type accepted for LMR would you do so ? It would only be for extended range at camp. My gut is to tell him no... Sorry for the slightly off topic postI just need a little extra thought on the subject... Bad thing is the person asking is the captain of my Volunteer FD. 73, Jon
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: question for commercial radio shops
That makes sense. I wonder if the ground crew could trick the ground receiver into un-muting the audio from the shuttle so that they can listen in on what's going on. Jeff, KB1SPH / WQEX694 -- From: Martin Flynn mafl...@theflynn.org Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 11:16 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: question for commercial radio shops Spacecraft systems are full-duplex. The purpose of the Quindar tones was to mute the uplink audio when Houston had nothing to say. ka9qjg wrote: Meant a lot to the First Astronauts with Communications that is how it got started I think , I forget if it was a Pre or after Transmission Don KA9QJ Yahoo! Groups Links
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: question for commercial radio shops
Had a Member of the Group send Me a Link direct , I thought I would share it then We can get back to repeater Building before We get hollered at lol http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/quindar.html Don KA9QJG From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Lavoie - KB1SPH/WQEX694 Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 10:23 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: question for commercial radio shops That makes sense. I wonder if the ground crew could trick the ground receiver into un-muting the audio from the shuttle so that they can listen in on what's going on. Jeff, KB1SPH / WQEX694 -- From: Martin Flynn mafl...@theflynn.org mailto:maflynn%40theflynn.org Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 11:16 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: question for commercial radio shops Spacecraft systems are full-duplex. The purpose of the Quindar tones was to mute the uplink audio when Houston had nothing to say. ka9qjg wrote: Meant a lot to the First Astronauts with Communications that is how it got started I think , I forget if it was a Pre or after Transmission Don KA9QJ _
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Recrystal MSR-2000 Channel Elements
Great! I'll dig them out first thing tomorrow get them shipped out no later than Thursday. George, KA3HSW / WQGJ413 - Original Message - From: Jeff Lavoie - KB1SPH/WQEX694 kb1...@wqex694.info To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 10:24 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Recrystal MSR-2000 Channel Elements George, sent the money. It will come from a different e-mail address, but it will have my name. Jeff, KB1SPH / WQEX694 -- From: George Henry ka3...@att.net Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 1:49 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Recrystal MSR-2000 Channel Elements I'm only looking to recoup what I have invested in them... $50 for the pair. At the moment, I have lots of spares, but sure, I'll take another set. If you do Paypal, you can pay me at ka3...@aol.com. George, KA3HSW From: Jeff Lavoie - KB1SPH/WQEX694 kb1...@wqex694.info To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, July 12, 2010 10:17:12 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Recrystal MSR-2000 Channel Elements Actually 462.600 is the frequency I'm currently running my Kenwood on. I would probably be putting the Motorola on the same frequency with a different PL at a different location. That would solve a lot of headaches if you're willing to part with them. I was thinking about doing ham later down the road if GMRS goes away, I'm sure you've all heard about the proposed rule changes. But until I hear that GMRS repeaters are not allowed (or must be narrow band) I'll be setting it up on GMRS. The Kenwood is more set up for a portable repeater for events right now. A group of us get together and help out with events when there aren't enough ham volunteers. Let me know what you want for the channel elements. If you're interested I would be willing to send you a set of channel elements back if you need them as spares. Jeff, KB1SPH / WQEX694 -- From: George Henry ka3...@att.net Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 1:59 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Recrystal MSR-2000 Channel Elements What frequencies are you looking for? Ham or GMRS, I presume... I've got a bunch of MSR-2K elements if you need any, including a set for a 462.600 GMRS repeater. George, KA3HSW / WQGJ413 From: Jeff Lavoie - KB1SPH/WQEX694 kb1...@wqex694.info To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, July 12, 2010 1:15:28 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Recrystal MSR-2000 Channel Elements (and a guacamole recipe) Thanks Skipp, that helps a great deal. I've found a lot of usefule information on repeater-builder.com over the years, but I just finally signed up for the yahoo group yesterday, I don't know why I waited. Bomar sounds like a good place to start with. I got this MSR-2000 for $25 at a hamfest because the guy didn't want to load it up in his truck to take it back home. I was buying a Kenwood TKR-820 and he said, I'll tell you what, I'll give you the pair for $50. How could I go wrong? The Kenwood is working great thanks to repeater-builder.com. On another note, I sent you a message a few days ago, but sometimes yahoo blocks my messagesnot sure why. I was wondering if you had any information about a CSI-32 tone panel and possible firmware upgrades. The EPROM inside has a sticker on it that says the following. 128 v4.0 6289 (I think, hard to read) © CSI - Jeff Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] CSI-32 (Lynnwood Washington) Repeater Tone Panel Controller Information
Ok, I've searched all over the board and have found no date on it., other than Copyright 1988. As for the chips in it, well, other than the standard chips probably in every model, here's what I've found that might help, they're in sockets. MK48Z02B25 - CMOS 2K x 8 XEROPOWER SRAM NMC27C128BQ250 - High Speed Version 131,072-Bit(16k x 8) UV Erasable CMOS PROM (Basically 128K) And this one I'm not sure why it's in a socket, I can't imagine it needing to be removed. MC6840P - Programmable Timer Module Maybe the 6289 handwritten on the label is suposed to be a date, but other than that all I can find is a number stamped onto the board that looks like a serial number, 08901009 There is a big blank spot where, according to what I've read, there is supposed to be an AC-DC converter, but mine doesn't have the AC feature. I haven't actually checked the bottom side, but I don't imagine they would have printed it there. On the plus side, my CSI-32 has a custom made internal switch to change the COS from high or low trigger. I was annoyed because it only takes a high trigger and my repeater has a low trigger. so I added a little board with a dpdt switch and transistor inverting circuit. Jeff, KB1SPH / WQEX694 On 7/12/2010, skipp025 skipp...@yahoo.com wrote: Jeff Lavoie - KB1SPH/WQEX694 kb1...@... wrote: Thanks Skipp, that helps a great deal. I've found a lot of useful information on repeater-builder.com over the years, Hi Jeff, Just don't buy a car from any of us and you'll be fine. I was wondering if you had any information about a CSI-32 tone panel and possible firmware upgrades. The EPROM inside has a sticker on it that says the following. 128 v4.0 6289 (I think, hard to read) © CSI In regards to the CSI (Lynnwood Washington CSI, not the Ventura CA. CSI) brand of Repeater Tone/DCS Controllers. The latest firmware version is based on the PC Board date of construction, which is most often silk screened in white ink right on the board. V4.0 was one of the last firmware versions available for most of the CSI-32 Controllers. As time allows I could check my files for firmware information but I would need to know your pc board date code in addition to all the other details. Right now I'd say the 4.0 stuff is pretty much it in regards to updates. cheers, s. Yahoo! Groups Links
