[Repeater-Builder] Kenwood TK-690H 29.5-37 MHz, Type 1 radio(s) wanted
Does anyone have or know of someone that would part ways with a Kenwood TK-690H Type 1 low-band commercial rig? Type 1 is the low split, 29.5 to 37 MHz. I would like to purchase 1 or 2 of the units to try on 10-meters. Thanks everyone! -- James Adkins, KB0NHX Vice-President -- Nixa Amateur Radio Club, Inc. (KC0LUN) www.nixahams.net Southern Missouri Assistant Frequency Coordinator - Missouri Repeater Council www.missourirepeater.org The Nixa Amateur Radio Club - There is no charge for awesomeness! (Well, only $1.00 per month)
[Repeater-Builder] Some commercial mobile radios for sale
Hello everyone, I have a couple of radios for sale, time to make some changes in my van :-) I've seen some people using the DR-235 220 MHz and the Motorola GTX 900 MHz radios for repeater exciter or receive radios (1) Kenwood TK-790 Mobile radio; 45w 2-meter mobile - I program at no charge if you want it. * 160 channels, remote head capable with remote head kit, comes with power cable mic mounting bracket * $1200 new, asking $150.00 (1) Alinco DR-235 Mobile radio; 25w 220 MHz mobile. * $250 new, asking $150.00 (radio is only 2 years old - Mint conditions, all accessories) (1) Motorola Astro Spectra Mobile radio; 110w UHF radio with P-25 digital capability - I program at no charge if you want it * Remote head kit included and power cable mounting bracket with faceplate for Jotto desk / Havis Shield console. * W5 control head, alpha-numeric display, 1MB Vocon board included, does mixed mode. * $3000 new, asking $450.00 * Has factory RX pre-amp installed (1) Motorola GTX Mobile radio; 30w 900 MHz mobile radio * 10-channel high-power 900 MHz mobile; DTMF mic included power cable - free programming if you want it. * Set up for all Missouri repeaters some Kansas repeaters already * $1000 new, asking $150 These are very nice radios, just time for me to make a change. You WON'T be disappointed with any of them. Performance on the ham bands is MUCH better than any amateur radio you'll buy. e-mail or call at 417-840-5261 if interested. 73, James Adkins, KB0NHX Technical Field Engineer - Missouri State Highway Patrol Troops A H Repeater Trustee - Nixa Amateur Radio Club, Inc. (KC0LUN) www.nixahams.net -
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 420Mhz Radio for Voter?
I disagree on the price of the CDM's. You can get the CDM-750 (4-channel) for as low as $75 to $125 if you watch for them on e-bay. The CDM-1250 and CDM-1550 are more expensive used, but still you should be able to get them for $250 or less if you just have to have the 128 channels and alpha display. On our setup, I program the RX CDM for PL on receive, but leave it in monitor mode. I then feed the PL detect from the RX radio to the PL encode of the TX CDM. When it gets back to the site, if the radio receives a PL, then it sends the logic out the PL detect pin. If it doesn't, then no logic is sent. This way you can turn the PL tone at all your remote sites locally with your controller. On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 3:35 PM, Glenn (Butch) Kanvick hotl...@gmail.comwrote: Hello Tim. I just looked in my storage site and I found a Micor Base/Repeater which is on the band split of 402-430 MHz. I do not have channel elements for it. I know it was working when it came out of service a few years ago, and the PA can be used as a digital station, as it takes the four pin channel elements. It is the complete base repeater which is designed for continious duty as it has the large pa heatsinks. Let me know if you would like pictures of it. I have $200.00 into it and it weighs alot so I am sure shipping via ground would be around $50.00. If you need the cabinet and power supply it would be $400.00 plus actual shipping. Butch, KE7FEL/r On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 1:33 PM, Tim - WD6AWP tisaw...@gmail.com wrote: Those CDM radios are a bit pricy at $550 each. But I appreciate the suggestion. And you've given me some ideas. I still like the idea of building an out of band repeater for the remote receive site from a Micor chassis. I would need a 406-420 exciter, bandpass filter and trippler. If anybody on the list has those or can help me find them I'd really appreciate it. --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comRepeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com, James Adkins adkins.ja...@... wrote: I am using the Motorola CDM series of radios for 420-425 MHz links from voting sites. They make a low-split UHF split that covers 403-470 MHz out of the box, no mods needed. On the transmit sites, you will want to use a fan for cooling. We mount the RX radio and a UHF TX radio on a 1U rack shelf, use a 4 hole saw and drill a hole under the UHF TX radio, and purchase a nice Dayton 24vdc fan that is actually a ball bearing fan that you can count on for years of use, and let it go. Have not had any problems to date with these rigs over a 4 year span. at W6KGBs article on moving 450-470 Mastr IIs to 420-450. It's on the GE Mastr II page at repeater-builder. You could use a Mastr II UHF mobile with the receiver, exciter and IPA converted to 420, then use the receiver in an aux receiver chassis at the voter site. You wouldn't need to convert the PA, the IPA (driver) and a beam would be enough for a point-to-point link. Bob Meister WA1MIK did an article on converting the multiplier chains so that the UHF Micor receivers could hear down as low as 435 MHz (where the front ends run out of tuning range). Mike WA6ILQ At 05:10 PM 07/27/10, you wrote: Thanks Jeff, I'll keep looking around for those low split UHF Micor receivers. What about the transmit side? Maybe I should look for a unified chassis low split UHF repeater. Swap out the UHF receiver for a VHF high band receiver and use that for my remote receiver site. Then use the low split UHF receiver on the other end of the link. That make sense? --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comRepeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com, Jeff DePolo jd0@ wrote: When you say low split, are you talking about the Motorola TRE1201/TRE8031 406-420 Mhz receivers? I don't have a manual in front of me, but yes, 406-420 receivers, they'll work fine well into the mid 430's without mods. What Canadian sources might have these? Well, Spantek comes to mind as a dealer. CW Wolfe used to get a lot of stuff out of Canada, but I haven't talked to Bud in quite a few years, not sure if he's still in business. This list is probably the best resource. eBay as an alternative. If you get desperate I still have a few dozen low-split Micors in the warehouse, but really don't have the time (or patience) to deal with packing and shipping radios for what few dollars I'd get out of them (i.e. value of my time $value of radio). But if you just wanted a receiver, you can consider me a last resort if you strike out everywhere else... --- Jeff WN3A --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comRepeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.comRepeater-Builder
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 420Mhz Radio for Voter?
Any windows PC with a serial port, an aftermarket or real Motorola cable and software. On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 11:05 PM, Tim Sawyer tisaw...@gmail.com wrote: What's it take to program those radios? -- Tim :wq On Jul 29, 2010, at 8:45 PM, James Adkins wrote: I disagree on the price of the CDM's. You can get the CDM-750 (4-channel) for as low as $75 to $125 if you watch for them on e-bay. The CDM-1250 and CDM-1550 are more expensive used, but still you should be able to get them for $250 or less if you just have to have the 128 channels and alpha display. On our setup, I program the RX CDM for PL on receive, but leave it in monitor mode. I then feed the PL detect from the RX radio to the PL encode of the TX CDM. When it gets back to the site, if the radio receives a PL, then it sends the logic out the PL detect pin. If it doesn't, then no logic is sent. This way you can turn the PL tone at all your remote sites locally with your controller. On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 3:35 PM, Glenn (Butch) Kanvick hotl...@gmail.comwrote: Hello Tim. I just looked in my storage site and I found a Micor Base/Repeater which is on the band split of 402-430 MHz. I do not have channel elements for it. I know it was working when it came out of service a few years ago, and the PA can be used as a digital station, as it takes the four pin channel elements. It is the complete base repeater which is designed for continious duty as it has the large pa heatsinks. Let me know if you would like pictures of it. I have $200.00 into it and it weighs alot so I am sure shipping via ground would be around $50.00. If you need the cabinet and power supply it would be $400.00 plus actual shipping. Butch, KE7FEL/r On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 1:33 PM, Tim - WD6AWP tisaw...@gmail.comwrote: Those CDM radios are a bit pricy at $550 each. But I appreciate the suggestion. And you've given me some ideas. I still like the idea of building an out of band repeater for the remote receive site from a Micor chassis. I would need a 406-420 exciter, bandpass filter and trippler. If anybody on the list has those or can help me find them I'd really appreciate it. --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comRepeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com, James Adkins adkins.ja...@... wrote: I am using the Motorola CDM series of radios for 420-425 MHz links from voting sites. They make a low-split UHF split that covers 403-470 MHz out of the box, no mods needed. On the transmit sites, you will want to use a fan for cooling. We mount the RX radio and a UHF TX radio on a 1U rack shelf, use a 4 hole saw and drill a hole under the UHF TX radio, and purchase a nice Dayton 24vdc fan that is actually a ball bearing fan that you can count on for years of use, and let it go. Have not had any problems to date with these rigs over a 4 year span. at W6KGBs article on moving 450-470 Mastr IIs to 420-450. It's on the GE Mastr II page at repeater-builder. You could use a Mastr II UHF mobile with the receiver, exciter and IPA converted to 420, then use the receiver in an aux receiver chassis at the voter site. You wouldn't need to convert the PA, the IPA (driver) and a beam would be enough for a point-to-point link. Bob Meister WA1MIK did an article on converting the multiplier chains so that the UHF Micor receivers could hear down as low as 435 MHz (where the front ends run out of tuning range). Mike WA6ILQ At 05:10 PM 07/27/10, you wrote: Thanks Jeff, I'll keep looking around for those low split UHF Micor receivers. What about the transmit side? Maybe I should look for a unified chassis low split UHF repeater. Swap out the UHF receiver for a VHF high band receiver and use that for my remote receiver site. Then use the low split UHF receiver on the other end of the link. That make sense? --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comRepeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com, Jeff DePolo jd0@ wrote: When you say low split, are you talking about the Motorola TRE1201/TRE8031 406-420 Mhz receivers? I don't have a manual in front of me, but yes, 406-420 receivers, they'll work fine well into the mid 430's without mods. What Canadian sources might have these? Well, Spantek comes to mind as a dealer. CW Wolfe used to get a lot of stuff out of Canada, but I haven't talked to Bud in quite a few years, not sure if he's still in business. This list is probably the best resource. eBay as an alternative. If you get desperate I still have a few dozen low-split Micors in the warehouse, but really don't have the time (or patience) to deal with packing and shipping radios for what few dollars I'd get out of them (i.e. value of my time $value of radio). But if you just wanted a receiver, you can consider
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 420Mhz Radio for Voter?
I am using the Motorola CDM series of radios for 420-425 MHz links from voting sites. They make a low-split UHF split that covers 403-470 MHz out of the box, no mods needed. On the transmit sites, you will want to use a fan for cooling. We mount the RX radio and a UHF TX radio on a 1U rack shelf, use a 4 hole saw and drill a hole under the UHF TX radio, and purchase a nice Dayton 24vdc fan that is actually a ball bearing fan that you can count on for years of use, and let it go. Have not had any problems to date with these rigs over a 4 year span. at W6KGBs article on moving 450-470 Mastr IIs to 420-450. It's on the GE Mastr II page at repeater-builder. You could use a Mastr II UHF mobile with the receiver, exciter and IPA converted to 420, then use the receiver in an aux receiver chassis at the voter site. You wouldn't need to convert the PA, the IPA (driver) and a beam would be enough for a point-to-point link. Bob Meister WA1MIK did an article on converting the multiplier chains so that the UHF Micor receivers could hear down as low as 435 MHz (where the front ends run out of tuning range). Mike WA6ILQ At 05:10 PM 07/27/10, you wrote: Thanks Jeff, I'll keep looking around for those low split UHF Micor receivers. What about the transmit side? Maybe I should look for a unified chassis low split UHF repeater. Swap out the UHF receiver for a VHF high band receiver and use that for my remote receiver site. Then use the low split UHF receiver on the other end of the link. That make sense? --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comRepeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com, Jeff DePolo j...@... wrote: When you say low split, are you talking about the Motorola TRE1201/TRE8031 406-420 Mhz receivers? I don't have a manual in front of me, but yes, 406-420 receivers, they'll work fine well into the mid 430's without mods. What Canadian sources might have these? Well, Spantek comes to mind as a dealer. CW Wolfe used to get a lot of stuff out of Canada, but I haven't talked to Bud in quite a few years, not sure if he's still in business. This list is probably the best resource. eBay as an alternative. If you get desperate I still have a few dozen low-split Micors in the warehouse, but really don't have the time (or patience) to deal with packing and shipping radios for what few dollars I'd get out of them (i.e. value of my time $value of radio). But if you just wanted a receiver, you can consider me a last resort if you strike out everywhere else... --- Jeff WN3A --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comRepeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.comRepeater-Builder%2540yahoogroups.com , Jeff DePolo jd0@ wrote: What is a good radio for building a one way 420 link? The link will be for a remote receiver and will not need to be duplex... RX at the voter and TX at the remote receiver. The link RX has to live on a noisy hill. Thanks for your advice. My preferences, in no particular order, would be Micor/SpectraTAC (low split), Mastr II (77 split), and Delta-S (low-split). MVP/Exec II (again, 77 split) would be fine too. All have excellent front ends. They can be found if you look a bit, especially check Canadian sources; they're not as easy to find stateside as 450-470 radios, but they're not unobtainium either. --- Jeff WN3A Yahoo! Groups Links -- James Adkins, KB0NHX Vice-President -- Nixa Amateur Radio Club, Inc. (KC0LUN) www.nixahams.net Southern Missouri Assistant Frequency Coordinator - Missouri Repeater Council www.missourirepeater.org The Nixa Amateur Radio Club - There is no charge for awesomeness! (Well, only $1.00 per month)
[Repeater-Builder] Andrew DB436-2 Phasing transformer
Does anyone have any information on the Andrew DB436-2 Phasing Transformer used as a phasing harness to connect two Andrew DB-436A antennas together? I need to build one for a remote RX site. I have the information on the DB-5009 dual yagi mounting bracket. Thanks, -- James Adkins, KB0NHX Vice-President -- Nixa Amateur Radio Club, Inc. (KC0LUN) www.nixahams.net Southern Missouri Assistant Frequency Coordinator - Missouri Repeater Council www.missourirepeater.org The Nixa Amateur Radio Club - There is no charge for awesomeness! (Well, only $1.00 per month)
[Repeater-Builder] Andrew 14436 Dual-yagi phasing harness
Does anyone have any technical data sheets for the phasing harness for a dual-array DB-436A (406-420 MHz) yagi from Andrew / Commscope? Looks like 14436 is the old part number. Thanks, -- James Adkins, KB0NHX Vice-President -- Nixa Amateur Radio Club, Inc. (KC0LUN) www.nixahams.net Southern Missouri Assistant Frequency Coordinator - Missouri Repeater Council www.missourirepeater.org The Nixa Amateur Radio Club - There is no charge for awesomeness! (Well, only $1.00 per month)
[Repeater-Builder] high-power VHF MSF-5000
Anyone know where a high power MSF-5000 VHF station can be found? I was thinking the model *may* be: C83CXB7106BT, but there could be some other odd ball models out there, like version A's or Rack mouunts, or different control than tone control. Thanks, -- James Adkins, KB0NHX
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Cooling Fans, which brand?
I prefer the Dayton 24 vdc fans, but feed them with 12 vdc. That way they are more quiet and they will last for quite some time. Get the good ball-bearing fans to extend fan life as well. We use them to cool our exciter radios and PA's at our sites and have not had one fail yet in 6 years. If you can program your controller to turn the fans on and off with PTT, you'll also extend fan life further. On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 12:43 AM, kq7dx kq...@yahoo.com wrote: Hello to group, Anyone have a brand they recomend for a no noise, reliable fan. I didnt know whether to go with brushless,ball bearing,AC, or DC etc. Also should the power leads be sheilded and have a separate supply if DC.. Any filters recomended also.. This is my first repeater and am now into the cooling part of the project. Thanks for all the help.. 73s -- James Adkins, KB0NHX Vice-President -- Nixa Amateur Radio Club, Inc. (KC0LUN) www.nixahams.net Southern Missouri Assistant Frequency Coordinator - Missouri Repeater Council www.missourirepeater.org The Nixa Amateur Radio Club - There is no charge for awesomeness! (Well, only $1.00 per month)
[Repeater-Builder] Question about antenna seperation
We are considering installing a 2-meter repeater, standard 600 kHz spacing, with separate antennas for transmit and receive, looking at phasing together 2 DB-228's for RX and 2 DB-228's for TX and using a high-power transmitter, such as a Motorola Nucleus at 250-300w or other high-power transmitter. Does anyone have a formula or know what formula would need to be used to determine the amount of vertical separation needed to provide the isolation required for such a duplex operation? We are wanting separate TX and RX antennas because of plans to have the repeater on a platform located 1200' in the air, and heliax runs are not practicable. -- James Adkins, KB0NHX
Re: [Repeater-Builder] 900 meg Spectra radio
Yeah, same as 220. There's not really a need for an amateur rig anyway. There are so many commercial rigs that go there easily, and you would never be able to buy an amateur rig with the performance of a Spectra! On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 11:35 PM, JOHN MACKEY jmac...@usa.net wrote: Because 900 Mhz is only available to amateurs in the US and not in Japan. The 900 Mhz amateur activity in the US is not very strong. -- Original Message -- Received: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 07:02:17 PM PST From: Fuggitaboutit mikew...@hotmail.com mikewm9v%40hotmail.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com SNIP Why cant someone just come up with a 900 meg fm mobile for amateur use? They would sell a zillion of them . -- James Adkins, KB0NHX Vice-President -- Nixa Amateur Radio Club, Inc. (KC0LUN) www.nixahams.net Southern Missouri Assistant Frequency Coordinator - Missouri Repeater Council www.missourirepeater.org The Nixa Amateur Radio Club - There is no charge for awesomeness! (Well, only $1.00 per month)
Re: [Repeater-Builder] 900 meg Spectra radio
I used to be like that, but now that I've gone commercial, I don't find that's an issue. I would rather have the improved performance. Plus, you can program in simplex channels, etc. If you can fill up 128 memory channels on 900 MHz in your area, that's great. Around here, we have 4 repeaters with 2 more proposed and only one other machine in the state. I could see that travelling a lot would be a reason to have front panel programmable radios, but I don't travel much out of state. On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 9:13 AM, MCH m...@nb.net wrote: True, but where is the hack for the front panel programmable Spectra? It's nice to not be limited to preprogrammed channels. Joe M. James Adkins wrote: Yeah, same as 220. There's not really a need for an amateur rig anyway. There are so many commercial rigs that go there easily, and you would never be able to buy an amateur rig with the performance of a Spectra! On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 11:35 PM, JOHN MACKEY jmac...@usa.netjmackey%40usa.net mailto:jmac...@usa.net jmackey%40usa.net wrote: Because 900 Mhz is only available to amateurs in the US and not in Japan. The 900 Mhz amateur activity in the US is not very strong. -- Original Message -- Received: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 07:02:17 PM PST From: Fuggitaboutit mikew...@hotmail.com mikewm9v%40hotmail.com mailto:mikewm9v%40hotmail.com mikewm9v%2540hotmail.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comRepeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.comRepeater-Builder%2540yahoogroups.com SNIP Why cant someone just come up with a 900 meg fm mobile for amateur use? They would sell a zillion of them . -- James Adkins, KB0NHX Vice-President -- Nixa Amateur Radio Club, Inc. (KC0LUN) www.nixahams.net http://www.nixahams.net Southern Missouri Assistant Frequency Coordinator - Missouri Repeater Council www.missourirepeater.org http://www.missourirepeater.org The Nixa Amateur Radio Club - There is no charge for awesomeness! (Well, only $1.00 per month) -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2714 - Release Date: 02/28/10 02:34:00 -- James Adkins, KB0NHX Vice-President -- Nixa Amateur Radio Club, Inc. (KC0LUN) www.nixahams.net Southern Missouri Assistant Frequency Coordinator - Missouri Repeater Council www.missourirepeater.org The Nixa Amateur Radio Club - There is no charge for awesomeness! (Well, only $1.00 per month)
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola Software Users group
They're probably in jail . . . . On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 8:02 PM, Mark n9...@ameritech.net wrote: Anyone know what has happened to this group? It USED to be THE place regarding Motorola RSS and such... but lately it has been overrun with SPAM. I sent a message to the list owner, with no reply. Thoughts? Suggestions for a replacement? Mark - N9WYS -- James Adkins, KB0NHX Vice-President -- Nixa Amateur Radio Club, Inc. (KC0LUN) www.nixahams.net Southern Missouri Assistant Frequency Coordinator - Missouri Repeater Council www.missourirepeater.org The Nixa Amateur Radio Club - There is no charge for awesomeness! (Well, only $1.00 per month)
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Daniels Electronics MT-3 Lowband Radios on 6 meters?
I agree. If you look at the BCD codes, there's EXACTLY enough spaces for 5 kHz channels between the wide and narrow band assignments for 50-54 MHz. We use Daniel's exclusively in our low-band statewide radio system, and I spoke with one of their engineers about this out at IWCE last March and he said it could be done, and they had even done it from the factory for an EMA out in California. It does take some work, he said some component changes, but that's as far as we discussed it and I've not tried it yet myself. On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 10:51 PM, surf_boy82 surf_bo...@yahoo.com wrote: Er, I beg to differ... I've seen it done, but the folks who did it aren't talking, or are just too busy to share right now. --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comRepeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com, Paul Gilbert ke5zw...@... wrote: Won't work, tried it already. Have to do lots of compent changes to get it down. On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 9:50 PM, surf_boy82 surf_bo...@... wrote: Has anyone out there successfully set up any of the Daniels MT-3 series lowband radios on 6 Meters? Recently bought a unit and would like to get it working in the amateur band. Any help would be appreciated. Chris/KF6AJM Yahoo! Groups Links -- James Adkins, KB0NHX Vice-President -- Nixa Amateur Radio Club, Inc. (KC0LUN) www.nixahams.net Southern Missouri Assistant Frequency Coordinator - Missouri Repeater Council www.missourirepeater.org The Nixa Amateur Radio Club - There is no charge for awesomeness! (Well, only $1.00 per month)
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Daniels Electronics MT-3 Lowband Radios on 6 meters?
I've never had that experience with them, their tech support is top notch. And their equipment is top notch, too. It's very expensive, though. Like any company, you just have to find the right person to spill the beans On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 6:26 AM, Nate Duehr n...@natetech.com wrote: On Feb 14, 2010, at 5:03 AM, James Adkins wrote: I agree. If you look at the BCD codes, there's EXACTLY enough spaces for 5 kHz channels between the wide and narrow band assignments for 50-54 MHz. We use Daniel's exclusively in our low-band statewide radio system, and I spoke with one of their engineers about this out at IWCE last March and he said it could be done, and they had even done it from the factory for an EMA out in California. It does take some work, he said some component changes, but that's as far as we discussed it and I've not tried it yet myself. This must be the trick to getting Daniels to talk to you... go to IWCE and get in their face. I've been blown off multiple times by them at their published contact points, over the last couple of years... I mention it more as a beware thing for the list, I'm not interested in talking to them anymore. -- Nate Duehr, WY0X n...@natetech.com nate%40natetech.com facebook.com/denverpilot twitter.com/denverpilot -- James Adkins, KB0NHX Vice-President -- Nixa Amateur Radio Club, Inc. (KC0LUN) www.nixahams.net Southern Missouri Assistant Frequency Coordinator - Missouri Repeater Council www.missourirepeater.org The Nixa Amateur Radio Club - There is no charge for awesomeness! (Well, only $1.00 per month)
[Repeater-Builder] 24vdc to 12 vdc converters
We have a site that we'd like to run our repeater off the cell phone company's 24vdc power plant, and need a continuous duty inverter to transfer 24vdc to 12vdc. It's a Motorola Micor, and we have a couple of link radios as well, total current draw about 40-45a when they're all fired up. Anyone have any suggestions? -- James Adkins, KB0NHX Vice-President -- Nixa Amateur Radio Club, Inc. (KC0LUN) www.nixahams.net Southern Missouri Assistant Frequency Coordinator - Missouri Repeater Council www.missourirepeater.org The Nixa Amateur Radio Club - There is no charge for awesomeness! (Well, only $1.00 per month)
Re: [Repeater-Builder] 24vdc to 12 vdc converters
Did that already, I like the Analytic Systems VTC-600. They have EMI filtering and one of their stated uses is Base Station Power (Radio Telecommunications on their PDF brochure. http://www.analyticsystems.com/Datasheets%20%20Manuals/VTC/vtc600d.pdf http://www.analyticsystems.com/Datasheets%20%20Manuals/VTC/vtc600d.pdfJust looking for anyone that has a positive experience with a particular product . . . Thanks Ken, On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 6:24 PM, Ken Arck ah...@ah6le.net wrote: At 04:17 PM 2/12/2010, James Adkins wrote: We have a site that we'd like to run our repeater off the cell phone company's 24vdc power plant, and need a continuous duty inverter to transfer 24vdc to 12vdc. It's a Motorola Micor, and we have a couple of link radios as well, total current draw about 40-45a when they're all fired up. Anyone have any suggestions? ---Pretty common in aircraft but a quick Google search of 24 to 12 volt converters turns up all sorts of hits (and many with the current range you're looking for). Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/ Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and we offer complete repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net We don't just make 'em. We use 'em! -- James Adkins, KB0NHX Vice-President -- Nixa Amateur Radio Club, Inc. (KC0LUN) www.nixahams.net Southern Missouri Assistant Frequency Coordinator - Missouri Repeater Council www.missourirepeater.org The Nixa Amateur Radio Club - There is no charge for awesomeness! (Well, only $1.00 per month)
[Repeater-Builder] DB-4072 duplexers
Wondering if anyone knows if the 6-cavity set of DB-4072's made for 450-470 MHz will go down to 444.425 MHz / 449.425 MHz? I know the specs say only down to 450, looking for anyone that's tuned these in the real world and how low you've tuned them. Thanks, -- James Adkins, KB0NHX
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Scom 7330 Ideas
Good morning Steve, You have indeed made a good choice! We installed our 7330 about a month ago and it hasn't missed a beat yet. Make sure you take advantage of the custom audio library function. We have recorded messages with information about the repeater that are played back when a user enters a certain DTMF code. The controller also alerts us when the on-board lithium battery gets below 2.3v so we know a trip to the hill is needed. Another alarm we've set up ties a logic input to our on-site UPS that is used for our Motorola Canopy wireless Internet radio, Linksys router, IRLP computer and DekTOP windows based PC that we use to remote control and program the SCOM7330. When we get the alarm that indicates the batteries need to be changed, the controller alerts us of the problem. We are also taking advantage of the if-then-else feature to use two logic outputs to control fans that keep our repeater running cool. Several other controllers have a fan control output, but none that are as customizable as the SCOM's. You can also use the on board CTCSS tone encoder to generate your PL tone, or simply use logic from the controller to control an external tone encoder board. We currently have a UHF repeater on port #1, a 220 repeater on port #2, and IRLP on port #3. The controller links and unlinks the repeaters for us for our weekly net, too. Since all the club's repeaters link to the UHF by radio, the controller also turns off all dropout delays, we strip the PL from ID's during the net, and it removes the courtesy tone so the UHF machine is transparent in the linking process. You'll also enjoy the use of balanced audio on RX, TX and CTCSS encode lines. Before we had the SCOM, I always thought the CAT controllers had the best sounding audio. Now, they're a close second. If you want a copy of my text file that we uploaded to the controller, send me an e-mail direct. Enjoy! On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 2:47 AM, KD8BIW sdenn...@yahoo.com wrote: Hello all, We will be upgrading our controller to a Scom 7330 soon, and i'm looking for any unique and interesting ideas for programming, options, etc. Did you do something odd, different, or just plain cool with your controller, i'd like to know. These are capable of so much, i'm looking for ideas. So far, I'm using 2 ports, 1 for the repeater and a 2nd for a control receiver. I think I would like to link to a local 440 repeater, but not sure. I'm open to ideas and suggestions. Thanks! Steve KD8BIW -- James Adkins, KB0NHX Vice-President -- Nixa Amateur Radio Club, Inc. (KC0LUN) www.nixahams.net Southern Missouri Assistant Frequency Coordinator - Missouri Repeater Council www.missourirepeater.org The Nixa Amateur Radio Club - There is no charge for awesomeness! (Well, only $1.00 per month)
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Scom 7330 Ideas
I've not tried every controller on the market (some are out of my price range!) but have tried controllers from the big 4 so to speak (SCOM, Link Com, CAT and Arcom) and you just won't find a controller with better sounding audio that is as reliable. The best part is that you know when you get it the bugs are worked out, the beta testing's been done beforehand. Though the controller is a work in progress with several features still to come, what's available works and works well. On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 7:55 AM, kc8fwd kc8...@hotmail.com wrote: James, The local repeaters here all use SCOM 6k and 7Ks in the link system and the system sounds the best around 73 de Mike KC8FWD -- James Adkins, KB0NHX Vice-President -- Nixa Amateur Radio Club, Inc. (KC0LUN) www.nixahams.net Southern Missouri Assistant Frequency Coordinator - Missouri Repeater Council www.missourirepeater.org The Nixa Amateur Radio Club - There is no charge for awesomeness! (Well, only $1.00 per month)
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Split Site Via Coax Cables Wire?
I'll ditto what Chuck said. LMR-400 should be avoided like the plague in repeater service. If you're not making your cables out of some type of superflex, try RG-214 with proper gender connectors, you can get BNC connectors for this coax. RG-400 is a good choice for interstage wiring, like exciter to PA. As for the Arcom RC-210's, I feel the same about them as the LMR-400. We had 3 of them at one point, all with v4.74 firmware. One thing I did notice was that on our site with just one repeater and no link radios, it was fairly stable. But, on our other sites (one with a repeater and link radio) and one with two repeaters and IRLP, it was very unstable. After nearly two years of banging my head against the wall, we sought other options. We're now using the SCOM 7330. It has been a VERY reliable performer for us, not one glitch, at all, EVER, since day one. We are doing the same things and more than what we ever did with the Arcom. It was a hard sell to club members because they thought the Arcom was cheaper (they weren't the ones going up there every month to babysit it, either!) But, when you compare the price of an Arcom, pre-built and tested, with cabinet and 3 RAD boards and software cost to an SCOM, which comes standard with the cabinet, 3 audio delay boards, 3 PL Encoders as well, the prices are pretty much the same. If you've ever used hyperterminal, you'll appreciate the ease of programming the SCOM, too, without finicky software to use. I've also had very good success with the CAT line of controllers. They are rock solid, simple controllers, but much less flexible than the new breed of controllers. NHRC also makes good, reliable controllers. I've never used any of the other brands. I know that won't help your reset problems, but knowing there are other options out there with the same features. There's so many fixes for the random resets hopefully you'll find one that works for you, we never did. James Adkins, KB0NHX On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 9:18 AM, kf0m kf0m_l...@cox.net wrote: Greg: If you are not on the RC210 yahoo group you should join. Earlier in 2009 there were a lot of people having problems with RC210 resets with a few versions of firmware which has sense been resolved. You should check to see if you have one of the unstable versions loaded and then go to either v4.74 or v5.281 to see if that will address your controller problems. John Lock kf0m at arrl.net -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comRepeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comRepeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of thornwal Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 7:20 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comRepeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Split Site Via Coax Cables Wire? --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comRepeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com, Chuck Kelsey wb2...@... wrote: Explain your 440 setup and the coverage. Maybe someone can offer some pointers there. Chuck WB2EDV The 440 repeater is a Icom FR-4000, with a Sinclair duplexer (4 cavities). I have about 50 ft of LMR-400 coax running to a vertical ant (9.8 db) on at ~25ft. I had a 25db preamp on it seemed to help a little. Freq is 447.9500+ MHz, ERP ~80 Watts, HAAT ~600 Feet, @1,200 ft elevation. My 2m IRLP node @ 5 or 20w seems to do better than the repeater even though I have it on a dual band vert at a lower elevation, I figured it was the 440 band. I have RC210 controller on it for the IRLP node (multiple ports) but it keeps resetting and has locked up a few times (PTT on!) so that's why I put the IRLP on 2m simplex. Not sure why it locks up, maybe RF? It's still resets every couple of days even though it's not used much. Coverage map: http://k5ehx.net/repeaters/qrepeater.php?id=15838 Thanks, --Greg Yahoo! Groups Links
[Repeater-Builder] CAT-1000 controller for sale
Our ham club is selling its spare Computer Automation Technology CAT-1000 CAT controller, the cadillac of the CAT line. Controller in great condition, e-mail for pics or more details. Asking $400 shipped. Cell is 417-840-5261 if you would like to call. -- James Adkins, KB0NHX Vice-President -- Nixa Amateur Radio Club, Inc. (KC0LUN) www.nixahams.net Southern Missouri Assistant Frequency Coordinator - Missouri Repeater Council www.missourirepeater.org The Nixa Amateur Radio Club - There is no charge for awesomeness! (Well, only $1.00 per month)
[Repeater-Builder] Re: CAT-1000 controller for sale
I should add that this includes an RME-1000 rack mount enclosure and no other accessories. On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 8:03 PM, James Adkins adkins.ja...@gmail.comwrote: Our ham club is selling its spare Computer Automation Technology CAT-1000 CAT controller, the cadillac of the CAT line. Controller in great condition, e-mail for pics or more details. Asking $400 shipped. Cell is 417-840-5261 if you would like to call. -- James Adkins, KB0NHX Vice-President -- Nixa Amateur Radio Club, Inc. (KC0LUN) www.nixahams.net Southern Missouri Assistant Frequency Coordinator - Missouri Repeater Council www.missourirepeater.org The Nixa Amateur Radio Club - There is no charge for awesomeness! (Well, only $1.00 per month) -- James Adkins, KB0NHX Vice-President -- Nixa Amateur Radio Club, Inc. (KC0LUN) www.nixahams.net Southern Missouri Assistant Frequency Coordinator - Missouri Repeater Council www.missourirepeater.org The Nixa Amateur Radio Club - There is no charge for awesomeness! (Well, only $1.00 per month)
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Remote Receiver site
We are using Motorola CDM-750's for our sites. Mount both radios to a 1U 19 rack shelf, and using a 4 hole saw, cut a hole below the TX radio and mount a 4 Dayton 24vdc fan, they run forever! We simply use the Motorola R.I.C.K. for our controller so to speak. Simple and reliable. With the flexibility of the CDM's, we program them for ignitiion sense on/of switch so they come back on automatically after a power outage. We can also use the controller at the central site to turn off the requirement for PL at all remote sites with one simple command. Simply program one pin for PL CSQ Detect on the receive radio. Program your radio for PL tone receive only, then leave the radio in monitor mode (yes, if you lose power it will come back up in monitor mode). This way the site hears all traffic, PL or no PL. Then, program the TX radio so that a pin controls the PL encode and feed the PL CSQ detect into the PL encode control pin. The link radio will TX a PL if a PL is received, and will not if none is received. Back at the site, program your receive radios the same way as your receive radio at the site. Then you can feed your CSQ PL detects from your sites into an or logic switch so that if it receives a PL from any site, it sends a single PL to the controller. We ended up using the 420.xxx and 425.xxx link frequencies, though, to try to alleviate any interference. The CDM radios (if you get the right one) will do 403-470 MHz without a problem, no mods needed. So far we've been using these for about 4 years with no problems whatsoever. On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 6:21 AM, Mike DeWaele mdewa...@seneca24.net wrote: I've used GE mastr 2. swap out UHF receive section with a VHF receiver. Duplex radio and your all set. Lots of guys do this for split site 6 meter repeaters. I think you can find that info on the repeater-builder website some where. Mike KA2NDW -Original Message- *From:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto: repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com]*on Behalf Of *John Szwarc *Sent:* Thursday, January 07, 2010 10:26 PM *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* [Repeater-Builder] Remote Receiver site I’m looking for some advice on constructing a remote receiver site. Ideally I’d like to have everything contained in one neat package just like at the repeater site. We’d be receiving on VHF and transmitting the link signal on UHF back to the repeater site.Any thoughts? -- James Adkins, KB0NHX Vice-President -- Nixa Amateur Radio Club, Inc. (KC0LUN) www.nixahams.net Southern Missouri Assistant Frequency Coordinator - Missouri Repeater Council www.missourirepeater.org The Nixa Amateur Radio Club - There is no charge for awesomeness! (Well, only $1.00 per month)
Re: [Repeater-Builder] DB224-JJ Wanted
Yes, and I'd take a third one . . . We are currently using a DB-573-EE for our 224.280 machine in Springfield, MO. Andrew / Commscope doesn't make it anymore. It's a fiberglass antenna, only meant for 217-222 with 3 dBd gain, but it works pretty well. Our SWR at 224.280 is 1.3 to 1, almost flat on 222.680 (input). These are good antennas if you can find one. On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 9:19 PM, Michael Ryan mryan...@tampabay.rr.comwrote: If there are TWO around, I’ll TAKE ONE TOO! - Mike *From:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto: repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *SDenny61 *Sent:* Thursday, January 07, 2010 10:18 PM *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* [Repeater-Builder] DB224-JJ Wanted Hello everyone, happy new year! I'm looking for a DB224-JJ. They are becoming hard to find, even from manufacturers. I would also consider a Hustler HD6-5 or something similar to that. I'm currently using a Hustler G7-220 side mounted, which works OK, but looking for something that could be top mounted. Having problems getting coverage in the areas I need due to shadowing from the tower. Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated! Steve KD8BIW KD8BIW/R 224.580 PL 110.9 http://www.kd8biw.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4752 (20100107) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com -- James Adkins, KB0NHX Vice-President -- Nixa Amateur Radio Club, Inc. (KC0LUN) www.nixahams.net Southern Missouri Assistant Frequency Coordinator - Missouri Repeater Council www.missourirepeater.org The Nixa Amateur Radio Club - There is no charge for awesomeness! (Well, only $1.00 per month)
Re: [Repeater-Builder] dispatch centers run through the internet
VoIP's use for fire alarm systems. --Don On Jan 4, 2010, at 4:47 PM, Jed Barton wrote: exactly what i thought. People can say relyability, but your internet connection is probably a hell of a lot more relyable than a typical verizon phone line. -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comhttp://us.mc624.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comhttp://us.mc624.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Barry Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 6:43 PM To: repeater-builder@yahoogroups.comhttp://us.mc624.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] dispatch centers run through the internet It's done very day ,a good vpn and intranet and very difficult to interfere, with short of a direct physical connection there is little better so I don't understand all the fuss . Some one posted a good remote radio controller so the rest is down to the skills of the system admin B ( and yes I have had training in the area) To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comhttp://us.mc624.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com From: rr...@librtynet.comhttp://us.mc624.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=rr...@librtynet.com Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 16:24:08 -0700 Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] dispatch centers run through the internet Given the inherit instability of the internet (it was NEVER designed to do what we are doing with it), I would consider any communications system which is reliant upon the internet to be flawed by design and completely untrustworthy. My two cents worth. From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comhttp://us.mc624.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comhttp://us.mc624.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of WA3GIN Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 6:23 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comhttp://us.mc624.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] dispatch centers run through the internet Yes, and they are called Intranets. - Original Message - From: Kevin Custer mailto:kug...@kuggie.comhttp://us.mc624.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=kug...@kuggie.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comhttp://us.mc624.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comhttp://us.mc624.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 5:55 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] dispatch centers run through the internet The Internet is a shared medium. A private WAN/LAN commonly utilizes fiber optic cable or licensed wireless networking to accomplish connectivity. While private systems can deliver Internet, it is not (necessarily) THE Internet. Privately owned facilities like what many CATV, Phone, Internet, and combinations of them can have dark fiber or reserved virtual space that cannot get clogged with Internet overhead. The bottlenecking you might experience with facilities you cannot (do not) control can (will) be the downfall of such a system - unless a SLA can be gotten. A SLA is a service level agreement in which a company guarantees connectivity - to some degree. The more reliability the agreement extends - the higher the cost. Kevin Custer Jed Barton wrote: tell me about this system a little bit. You'll note that the manufacturer is not suggesting that you utilize the Internet for this device. It is marketed for use on a private LAN/WAN. Chuck WB2EDV Meet singles at ninemsn dating Looking for a great date? http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/150855801/direct/01/ Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links -- James Adkins, KB0NHX Vice-President -- Nixa Amateur Radio Club, Inc. (KC0LUN) www.nixahams.net Southern Missouri Assistant Frequency Coordinator - Missouri Repeater Council www.missourirepeater.org The Nixa Amateur Radio Club - There is no charge for awesomeness! (Well, only $1.00 per month)
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Henry Repeater Amp or TE Systems
TPL I will never consider. We used their 300-W amps for low-band at work, they'd oscillate unless we put in a second TR Relay with a 50-ohm dummy load, then they'd burn up. Not to mention, the 100-w ones we had were very dirty if we ran them above 35w or so. One brand I considered was Crescend for UHF, they are rock solid. But, they don't make a 220 amp. Will check into Volcom, never heard of them. On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 11:09 AM, Maire-Radios maire-rad...@verizon.netwrote: *we have used TE, Henry, Volcom and TPL.* ** *Volcom and TPL have great service* ** *TE got a 150 watt and UHF and no matter what we do to it only puts out 120 watts came with paper work that show tested at 134 watts on a 150 watt amp.* ** *Had no luck to get this corrected.* ** *Will never but a TE amp ever if it was at very low cost.* ** *go with a good brand spend a bit more but it works and works* *Volcom 1ST TPL 2nd* ** *John* - Original Message - *From:* James Adkins adkins.ja...@gmail.com *To:* repeater-builder Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Saturday, December 19, 2009 9:44 PM *Subject:* [Repeater-Builder] Henry Repeater Amp or TE Systems Okay all, looking for opinions. Our club is going to purchase a 220 amplifier and a 440 amplifier for our repeaters. For 220, we're looking at either the TE Systems 2210RAN or the Henry C100B10R For UHF, it's either the TE Systems 4412RA or the Henry C100D30R. We have a Henry C300C30R in use for about 3-1/2 years now (running it at 250w output) on our 6-meter repeater and had to send it in about 13 months into its life to have the finals replaced. No problems since, though. I was pleased with Henry's response to the problem. Even though it was out of warranty, they fixed it under warranty. Though the TE systems amplifiers have more output (150w vs 100w), I have concerns about their reliability. The local D* repeater has had a lot of problems with their VHF amplifier, and it's not very clean (of course, that could be the fault of the D* repeater transmitter, too!). What are your opinions, TE Systems vs Henry? -- James Adkins, KB0NHX Vice-President -- Nixa Amateur Radio Club, Inc. (KC0LUN) www.nixahams.net Southern Missouri Assistant Frequency Coordinator - Missouri Repeater Council www.missourirepeater.org The Nixa Amateur Radio Club - There is no charge for awesomeness! (Well, only $1.00 per month) -- James Adkins, KB0NHX Vice-President -- Nixa Amateur Radio Club, Inc. (KC0LUN) www.nixahams.net Southern Missouri Assistant Frequency Coordinator - Missouri Repeater Council www.missourirepeater.org The Nixa Amateur Radio Club - There is no charge for awesomeness! (Well, only $1.00 per month)
[Repeater-Builder] Henry Repeater Amp or TE Systems
Okay all, looking for opinions. Our club is going to purchase a 220 amplifier and a 440 amplifier for our repeaters. For 220, we're looking at either the TE Systems 2210RAN or the Henry C100B10R For UHF, it's either the TE Systems 4412RA or the Henry C100D30R. We have a Henry C300C30R in use for about 3-1/2 years now (running it at 250w output) on our 6-meter repeater and had to send it in about 13 months into its life to have the finals replaced. No problems since, though. I was pleased with Henry's response to the problem. Even though it was out of warranty, they fixed it under warranty. Though the TE systems amplifiers have more output (150w vs 100w), I have concerns about their reliability. The local D* repeater has had a lot of problems with their VHF amplifier, and it's not very clean (of course, that could be the fault of the D* repeater transmitter, too!). What are your opinions, TE Systems vs Henry? -- James Adkins, KB0NHX Vice-President -- Nixa Amateur Radio Club, Inc. (KC0LUN) www.nixahams.net Southern Missouri Assistant Frequency Coordinator - Missouri Repeater Council www.missourirepeater.org The Nixa Amateur Radio Club - There is no charge for awesomeness! (Well, only $1.00 per month)
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola Spectra 900's
A Micor receiver on 900 would be great! I have never seen anything about that, but haven't really considered it. We use a Micor for our 145.270 machine, and used one on our 224.280 for quite a while. I have a Micor aux receiver rack, anyone have a 900 MHz receiver board for sale? Do they make a nice Micor helical pre-amp for 900 as well? Thanks for the great idea, Mike. On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 2:23 PM, Mike Morris WA6ILQ wa6...@gmail.comwrote: At 10:22 AM 11/22/09, you wrote: Been there done that seven years ago...it is a liiittle more than the three items listed that need to be done For the NUC RX idea, I have been thinking about doing a rx for that purpose, however, my concern is, will all that work have pay dirt... If some one can show the 902 rx front end is truly usable in high rf environment, I will work with them to...git-er-done... What's wrong with a Moto Aux Receiver (a Micor) on 900? They exist, work REAL well, have independent COR (channel busy) and PL decode lines, etc. The Aux Receiver chassis has the receiver board vertical, the MSF Link Receiver chassis has it horizontal to take up less rack space. I currently have two 900 spectras in a sales catalog bag with wide duplexer and controller to operate on any one of the eighty channels 902-903 and 927-928. All that's needed is twelve volts and antenna. Want to do an article on it? Mike WA6ILQ -- James Adkins, KB0NHX Vice-President -- Nixa Amateur Radio Club, Inc. (KC0LUN) Southern Missouri Frequency Coordinator - Missouri Repeater Council www.nixahams.net The Nixa Amateur Radio Club - There is no charge for awesomeness! (Well, only $1.00 per month)
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola Spectra 900's
I wonder, are the Micor receivers 2.5 kHz bandwidth or wideband. On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 2:23 PM, Mike Morris WA6ILQ wa6...@gmail.comwrote: At 10:22 AM 11/22/09, you wrote: Been there done that seven years ago...it is a liiittle more than the three items listed that need to be done For the NUC RX idea, I have been thinking about doing a rx for that purpose, however, my concern is, will all that work have pay dirt... If some one can show the 902 rx front end is truly usable in high rf environment, I will work with them to...git-er-done... What's wrong with a Moto Aux Receiver (a Micor) on 900? They exist, work REAL well, have independent COR (channel busy) and PL decode lines, etc. The Aux Receiver chassis has the receiver board vertical, the MSF Link Receiver chassis has it horizontal to take up less rack space. I currently have two 900 spectras in a sales catalog bag with wide duplexer and controller to operate on any one of the eighty channels 902-903 and 927-928. All that's needed is twelve volts and antenna. Want to do an article on it? Mike WA6ILQ -- James Adkins, KB0NHX Vice-President -- Nixa Amateur Radio Club, Inc. (KC0LUN) Southern Missouri Frequency Coordinator - Missouri Repeater Council www.nixahams.net The Nixa Amateur Radio Club - There is no charge for awesomeness! (Well, only $1.00 per month)
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola Spectra 900's
Went to Repeater Builder, looks like the did make a 2.5 kHz 900 board. Good overview of the aux receivers and spectra tac receivers there. On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 5:46 PM, JOHN MACKEY jmac...@usa.net wrote: Micor 900 receivers at +/- 5 KC. -- Original Message -- Received: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 03:31:31 PM PST From: James Adkins adkins.ja...@gmail.com adkins.james%40gmail.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola Spectra 900's I wonder, are the Micor receivers 2.5 kHz bandwidth or wideband. On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 2:23 PM, Mike Morris WA6ILQ wa6...@gmail.com wa6ilq%40gmail.comwrote: At 10:22 AM 11/22/09, you wrote: Been there done that seven years ago...it is a liiittle more than the three items listed that need to be done For the NUC RX idea, I have been thinking about doing a rx for that purpose, however, my concern is, will all that work have pay dirt... If some one can show the 902 rx front end is truly usable in high rf environment, I will work with them to...git-er-done... What's wrong with a Moto Aux Receiver (a Micor) on 900? They exist, work REAL well, have independent COR (channel busy) and PL decode lines, etc. The Aux Receiver chassis has the receiver board vertical, the MSF Link Receiver chassis has it horizontal to take up less rack space. I currently have two 900 spectras in a sales catalog bag with wide duplexer and controller to operate on any one of the eighty channels 902-903 and 927-928. All that's needed is twelve volts and antenna. Want to do an article on it? Mike WA6ILQ -- James Adkins, KB0NHX Vice-President -- Nixa Amateur Radio Club, Inc. (KC0LUN) Southern Missouri Frequency Coordinator - Missouri Repeater Council www.nixahams.net The Nixa Amateur Radio Club - There is no charge for awesomeness! (Well, only $1.00 per month) -- James Adkins, KB0NHX Vice-President -- Nixa Amateur Radio Club, Inc. (KC0LUN) Southern Missouri Frequency Coordinator - Missouri Repeater Council www.nixahams.net The Nixa Amateur Radio Club - There is no charge for awesomeness! (Well, only $1.00 per month)
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola Spectra 900's
Just wanted to make sure they'd work with the Spectras, GTX's and other gear already out there. On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 7:39 PM, MCH m...@nb.net wrote: They should be neither 2.5 kHz or Wideband FM (never heard of a wideband FM Micor). They should be 11.0 kHz bandwidth - for 2.5 kHz deviation, although they could be 16.0 kHz bandwidth for 5.0 kHz deviation. Joe M. James Adkins wrote: I wonder, are the Micor receivers 2.5 kHz bandwidth or wideband. On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 2:23 PM, Mike Morris WA6ILQ wa6...@gmail.comwa6ilq%40gmail.com mailto:wa6...@gmail.com wa6ilq%40gmail.com wrote: At 10:22 AM 11/22/09, you wrote: Been there done that seven years ago...it is a liiittle more than the three items listed that need to be done For the NUC RX idea, I have been thinking about doing a rx for that purpose, however, my concern is, will all that work have pay dirt... If some one can show the 902 rx front end is truly usable in high rf environment, I will work with them to...git-er-done... What's wrong with a Moto Aux Receiver (a Micor) on 900? They exist, work REAL well, have independent COR (channel busy) and PL decode lines, etc. The Aux Receiver chassis has the receiver board vertical, the MSF Link Receiver chassis has it horizontal to take up less rack space. I currently have two 900 spectras in a sales catalog bag with wide duplexer and controller to operate on any one of the eighty channels 902-903 and 927-928. All that's needed is twelve volts and antenna. Want to do an article on it? Mike WA6ILQ -- James Adkins, KB0NHX Vice-President -- Nixa Amateur Radio Club, Inc. (KC0LUN) Southern Missouri Frequency Coordinator - Missouri Repeater Council www.nixahams.net http://www.nixahams.net The Nixa Amateur Radio Club - There is no charge for awesomeness! (Well, only $1.00 per month) -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.77/2520 - Release Date: 11/22/09 14:40:00 -- James Adkins, KB0NHX Vice-President -- Nixa Amateur Radio Club, Inc. (KC0LUN) Southern Missouri Frequency Coordinator - Missouri Repeater Council www.nixahams.net The Nixa Amateur Radio Club - There is no charge for awesomeness! (Well, only $1.00 per month)
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola Spectra 900's
Which brings up another interesting question: We are already using a 75w MSF-5000. Could a Motorola Nucleus II paging transmitter be used and the MSF-5000 receiver? We're using an external controller, S-COM 7330. I don't see why one couldn't just wire up the RX audio, COR and PL to the RX side and the NUC II to the PTT and TX audio lines. Thoughts? On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 9:41 PM, Bill jawjabill...@yahoo.com wrote: I think the Micor rx is a great idea. Unless they came from a 900 micor rptr, they probably were used in paging or linking service, making them the 5 khz variety, The IF xtals could be changed for the 2.5 khz modulation, but no flutter fighter or compandering available like the msf series. And, Mike, yes I have contemplated an article that would detail the procedure. The first unit I did took about a week out of my life and large fistful of hair. The key ingredient to making the spectra play rx on 902 is the software, it has to be hacked up so bad that it will not work on any standard or ham units. The rx front end is the worst and most time consuming part because of it's tuning requirements. And after reading you qrz history, Mike, I plan to reincarnate as a butterfly so I may follow you as you enjoy life. . Bill w4oo . --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comRepeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com, Mike Morris WA6ILQ wa6...@... wrote: At 10:22 AM 11/22/09, you wrote: Been there done that seven years ago...it is a liiittle more than the three items listed that need to be done For the NUC RX idea, I have been thinking about doing a rx for that purpose, however, my concern is, will all that work have pay dirt... If some one can show the 902 rx front end is truly usable in high rf environment, I will work with them to...git-er-done... What's wrong with a Moto Aux Receiver (a Micor) on 900? They exist, work REAL well, have independent COR (channel busy) and PL decode lines, etc. The Aux Receiver chassis has the receiver board vertical, the MSF Link Receiver chassis has it horizontal to take up less rack space. I currently have two 900 spectras in a sales catalog bag with wide duplexer and controller to operate on any one of the eighty channels 902-903 and 927-928. All that's needed is twelve volts and antenna. Want to do an article on it? Mike WA6ILQ -- James Adkins, KB0NHX Vice-President -- Nixa Amateur Radio Club, Inc. (KC0LUN) Southern Missouri Frequency Coordinator - Missouri Repeater Council www.nixahams.net The Nixa Amateur Radio Club - There is no charge for awesomeness! (Well, only $1.00 per month)
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola Spectra 900's
On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 9:41 PM, Bill jawjabill...@yahoo.com wrote: I think the Micor rx is a great idea. Unless they came from a 900 micor rptr, they probably were used in paging or linking service, making them the 5 khz variety, The IF xtals could be changed for the 2.5 khz modulation, but no flutter fighter or compandering available like the msf series. And, Mike, yes I have contemplated an article that would detail the procedure. The first unit I did took about a week out of my life and large fistful of hair. The key ingredient to making the spectra play rx on 902 is the software, it has to be hacked up so bad that it will not work on any standard or ham units. The rx front end is the worst and most time consuming part because of it's tuning requirements. And after reading you qrz history, Mike, I plan to reincarnate as a butterfly so I may follow you as you enjoy life. . Bill w4oo . --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comRepeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com, Mike Morris WA6ILQ wa6...@... wrote: At 10:22 AM 11/22/09, you wrote: Been there done that seven years ago...it is a liiittle more than the three items listed that need to be done For the NUC RX idea, I have been thinking about doing a rx for that purpose, however, my concern is, will all that work have pay dirt... If some one can show the 902 rx front end is truly usable in high rf environment, I will work with them to...git-er-done... What's wrong with a Moto Aux Receiver (a Micor) on 900? They exist, work REAL well, have independent COR (channel busy) and PL decode lines, etc. The Aux Receiver chassis has the receiver board vertical, the MSF Link Receiver chassis has it horizontal to take up less rack space. I currently have two 900 spectras in a sales catalog bag with wide duplexer and controller to operate on any one of the eighty channels 902-903 and 927-928. All that's needed is twelve volts and antenna. Want to do an article on it? Mike WA6ILQ -- James Adkins, KB0NHX Vice-President -- Nixa Amateur Radio Club, Inc. (KC0LUN) Southern Missouri Frequency Coordinator - Missouri Repeater Council www.nixahams.net The Nixa Amateur Radio Club - There is no charge for awesomeness! (Well, only $1.00 per month)
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Time for GOD
We do still have freedom of speech and freedom of religion in this country. Feel free to use your delete button if it offends you. On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 11:17 PM, Richard gbis-reply-...@gbis.com wrote: Well, it certainly is off topic, but you should have more of an open mind. After all, people are entitled to their opinions, and to be able to speak their minds. Richard www.n7tgb.net It does not take a majority to prevail ... but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men. --Samuel Adams -- *From:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto: repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *hfarrenkopf *Sent:* Friday, November 20, 2009 7:55 PM *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* [Repeater-Builder] Re: Time for GOD What is this crap on here? Please ban the originator. Delusional stuff is not welcomed by me! There are no gawds BTW! -- James Adkins, KB0NHX Vice-President -- Nixa Amateur Radio Club, Inc. (KC0LUN) Southern Missouri Frequency Coordinator - Missouri Repeater Council www.nixahams.net The Nixa Amateur Radio Club - There is no charge for awesomeness! (Well, only $1.00 per month)
[Repeater-Builder] Motorola Spectra 900's
Looking for anyone that's actually used a Motorola Spectra to RX on 902.xxx MHz for a repeater receiver Has anyone on the list tried this? Looking for something besides the standard maxtrac option. -- James Adkins, KB0NHX Vice-President -- Nixa Amateur Radio Club, Inc. (KC0LUN) Southern Missouri Frequency Coordinator - Missouri Repeater Council www.nixahams.net The Nixa Amateur Radio Club - There is no charge for awesomeness! (Well, only $1.00 per month)
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola Spectra 900's
I've done quite a bit with the Spectras; hacked the software, re-tuned the VCO after modifying, re-capped them, etc. I think they're great radios. Just thought since it's difficult / impossible to get maxtrac filters, and knowing how good the Spectra receivers are, they'd be a nice alternative to go with a Motorola Nuc as a receiver. Not sure that there is COR present on the 15-pin accessory pin, but seems like when I looked at that before there wasn't. I'm sure that can be found somewhere inside the rig, though. Can you e-mail me off the list with what you have? Thanks, James On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 9:35 PM, John Gleichweit smokeyb...@sbcglobal.netwrote: I'll second the motion for a write-up. If you have high-rez pictures, that'll help even more. I have 2 900MHz A5 Spectras that I want to tweak into the 902 band. -- John Smokey Behr Gleichweit FF1/EMT, CCNA, MCSE IPN-CAL023 N6FOG UP Fresno Sub MP183.5 ECV1852 List Owner x10, Moderator x9 CalEMA 51-507 http://smokeybehr.blogspot.com http://www.myspace.com/smokeybehr - Original Message From: Mark n9...@ameritech.net n9wys%40ameritech.net To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comRepeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, November 21, 2009 6:34:32 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola Spectra 900's Mel, Reference the write-up, PLEASE DO!!! There are others here who would be grateful for the knowledge (myself included). 73, Mark - N9WYS -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comRepeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.comOn Behalf Of wa6jbd I've managed to get 900 Spectras to receive in the 902 range. There are three steps, and it's not necessarily a 'beginner project'. 1. Hack bandlimits to allow programming 2. Modify VCO 3. Retune front end filter. It's possible to meet or exceed rated performance after modification, but takes patience, a steady hand, and a network analyzer or spectrum analyzer and tracking generator. I'm toying with the idea of putting together an article on how to do it, complete with pictures it there is sufficient interest. In the meantime, I'd be happy to supply a description of what's involved to anyone who'd like to give it a try. Mel - WA6JBD --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comRepeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com, James Adkins wrote: Looking for anyone that's actually used a Motorola Spectra to RX on 902.xxx MHz for a repeater receiver Has anyone on the list tried this? Looking for something besides the standard maxtrac option. -- James Adkins, KB0NHX Vice-President -- Nixa Amateur Radio Club, Inc. (KC0LUN) Southern Missouri Frequency Coordinator - Missouri Repeater Council www.nixahams.net The Nixa Amateur Radio Club - There is no charge for awesomeness! (Well, only $1.00 per month) Yahoo! Groups Links -- James Adkins, KB0NHX Vice-President -- Nixa Amateur Radio Club, Inc. (KC0LUN) Southern Missouri Frequency Coordinator - Missouri Repeater Council www.nixahams.net The Nixa Amateur Radio Club - There is no charge for awesomeness! (Well, only $1.00 per month)
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Double Shielded Cable
Another good source is the RF Connection, www.therfc.com. You can get the RG-400 or RG-142 cables with N-male/female or Mini UHF connectors. They are really high quality. On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 7:19 AM, Maire-Radios maire-rad...@verizon.netwrote: *we get all of ours from Tessco.* ** - Original Message - *From:* DCFluX dcf...@gmail.com *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Sunday, October 25, 2009 11:30 PM *Subject:* Re: [Repeater-Builder] Double Shielded Cable I just did that as well, nice cables, but it looks like they use lead free solder. Pasternack makes cables, but they have $100 minimum order, which isn't that hard to meet as they are typically 3-6dB more than their competitors. On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 8:20 PM, Pointman shield1...@yahoo.com wrote: AI just bought several pre-made connectors from Advanced Receiver Research...but I'm sure you can buy the raw cable and make up your own, as well. de KM3W --- On *Sun, 10/25/09, kc8fwd kc8...@hotmail.com* wrote: From: kc8fwd kc8...@hotmail.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Double Shielded Cable To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, October 25, 2009, 11:17 PM Hello, What is a good source to get Double Shielded Cable with N connectors to go from the duplexer to receiver and duplexer to transmitter? What kind of coax etc.All info is appreciated Thanke Mike KC8FWD -- James Adkins, KB0NHX Vice-President -- Nixa Amateur Radio Club, Inc. (KC0LUN) Southern Missouri Frequency Coordinator - Missouri Repeater Council www.nixahams.net The Nixa Amateur Radio Club - There is no charge for awesomeness! (Well, only $1.00 per month)
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Controller Recomendations
If you're wanting a repeater controller that can control two repeaters at the same site simultaneously, your options are going to be limited. I highly suggest the SCOM 7330. It's the mid-range price wise of the 3 controllers I'm familiar with that will complete your task. The high end price wise being the Link Comm DSP404 and the low end being the Arcom RC-210. I basically made my decision to go with the SCOM 7330 after googling all the information about these 3 controllers, it was the only one that I couldn't find even one bad thing or bug mentioned about. So far, it has exceeded my expectations and worked flawlessly. Anytime I've had a question, they are prompt to answer it as well. Good luck in your endeavor, On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 12:47 AM, ve6sar ve6...@rac.ca wrote: I'm working on a project for the local ham club to build and install a UHF linking hub repeater and down the road add a low power vhf repeater to the site that's linked through a controller. I've used the Link Comm RLC-4's and CraField CD-3 controllers before I'm looking for an inexpensive solution that still is a quality product. Nothing to fancy is required. What are people using for similar set ups? Sean VE6SAR -- James Adkins, KB0NHX Vice-President -- Nixa Amateur Radio Club, Inc. (KC0LUN) Southern Missouri Frequency Coordinator - Missouri Repeater Council www.nixahams.net The Nixa Amateur Radio Club - There is no charge for awesomeness! (Well, only $1.00 per month)
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: S-COM 7330
Thank you everyone for your input. I have searched google, read mail archives, and simply cannot find anywhere one problem or negative comment about the controller. I think I'm sold. On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 11:32 AM, ransomk7mm ransomk...@verizon.net wrote: James, I have the S-Com 7330 and I like it very much. The command language is simply and easy to learn. The serial computer interface is great for setup; I have a text file that I upload to the controller. Hardware build quality is first rate. Interface options made it very easy for me to connect to my Mitrek repeaters and Midland 223-MHz link radio. I have a 2-m repeater running on Port 1, the link running on Port 2, and a 6-m repeater running on Port 3. Because of the extensive path circuit definitions I can run any combination of linked or stand-alone ports; simple and efficient. The on-board delay is adjustable so I hear no squelch tails and no DTMF on the repeaters. The pre-recorded voice is articulate and sounds very professional. The Scheduler works well, although it outputs on Port 1 only. The next software update (loaded easily via file transfer through the serial port) will feature my own voice on .wav files. In addition, the Scheduler will output to any port, not just Port 1 only, so that I can get my messages on the 6-M repeater more easily. In short, I am a very happy S-Com 7330 user. Regards, Dan at K7MM, VU3MMW --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comRepeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com, James Adkins adkins.ja...@... wrote: Anyone out there using an S-Com 7330? Looking for any input on their reliability and operation. Thanks, -- James Adkins, KB0NHX -- James Adkins, KB0NHX Vice-President -- Nixa Amateur Radio Club, Inc. (KC0LUN) Southern Missouri Frequency Coordinator - Missouri Repeater Council www.nixahams.net The Nixa Amateur Radio Club - There is no charge for awesomeness! (Well, only $1.00 per month)
[Repeater-Builder] Arcom RC-210 for sale
I have an Arcom RC-210 repeater controller up for sale, with the factory enclosure, for $275 shipped to the lower 48. The controller was in use at our 927.5375 repeater site in Republic, MO for about a year with no problems. Has firmware v4.74 loaded into it. No audio delay or autopatch option. No modifications made to controller. E-mail or call at 417-840-5261 if interested. -- James Adkins, KB0NHX
[Repeater-Builder] S-COM 7330
Anyone out there using an S-Com 7330? Looking for any input on their reliability and operation. Thanks, -- James Adkins, KB0NHX
[Repeater-Builder] Arcom RC-210 for sale
The Nixa ARC now has a surplus Arcom RC-210 up for sale. Asking $275.00 shipped. E-mail me off list if you are interested, or call 417-840-5261. 73, -- James Adkins, KB0NHX Vice-President -- Nixa Amateur Radio Club, Inc. (KC0LUN) Southern Missouri Frequency Coordinator - Missouri Repeater Council www.nixahams.net The Nixa Amateur Radio Club - There is no charge for awesomeness! (Well, only $1.00 per month)
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Arcom Controller
This controller also had the factory rack mount enclosure in this deal Sent from my iPod On Aug 8, 2009, at 4:14 PM, Martin A Flynn mafl...@att.net wrote: Jim, Couple pf questions: Is this a Kit or the factory version? What housing? Do you take paypal? Martin The Nixa ARC now has a surplus Arcom RC-210 up for sale. Asking $275.00 shipped. E-mail me off list if you are interested, or call 417-840-5261. 73, -- James Adkins, KB0NHX Vice-President -- Nixa Amateur Radio Club, Inc. (KC0LUN) Southern Missouri Frequency Coordinator - Missouri Repeater Council www.nixahams.net http://www.nixahams.net The Nixa Amateur Radio Club - There is no charge for awesomeness! (Well, only $1.00 per month)
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Vibrasponder KLN 6209A 123.0Hz..
I also am in need of 4 of the 162.2 Hz vibrasponders. I have 4 203.5 Hz if anyone needs them, or maybe I could trade them for the frequency I need. On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 12:37 PM, Carmen J Peca carmenp...@comcast.netwrote: Hi All, I am in need of a Motorola Vibrasponder KLN 6209A Freq. 123.0 Hz. If anyone has one to sell please let me know. Or if you can steer me in the right direction to try and locate one that would work also. Thanks, Carm,WO3T -- James Adkins, KB0NHX Vice-President -- Nixa Amateur Radio Club, Inc. (KC0LUN) www.nixahams.net The Nixa Amateur Radio Club - There is no charge for awesomeness! (Well, only $1.00 per month)
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Sinclair - big price jump?
Don't overlook Comprod. Very similar antennas, and I think they're cheaper. We are on low-band, and they are re-designing the phasing harnesses and feeders so that we can run high power (aka 2kw) instead of their normal 300w rating. I was very impressed with them. When we called Sinclair and asked for such a beast, they just blew us off. Comprod got an engineer on the phone with us and the new low-band, high-power bays and phasing harnesses are in the works for 2 and 4 bay arrays. On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 4:07 PM, Nate Duehr n...@natetech.com wrote: On Tue, 02 Jun 2009 10:05 -0400, Jeff DePolo j...@broadsci.comjd0%40broadsci.com wrote: giving me quotes over $2,000???!? Did Sinclair have a big price jump over the last few years? Yeah Jeff, I think they when commodities prices (metal) went higher, and the Canadian dollar started falling. This was one of the reasons we decided to experiment with 2-bay antennas at our not as important sites... amongst other things, like them being a heck of a lot easier to deal with on the tower... etc. Also watch out for something we ran into... find out if your distributor has them IN-STOCK. We had to wait for the factory to make them, ship them to the distributor, then the distributor shipped them here, complete with running them over with a fork-lift, going through the insurance claim (their insurance, not ours), and waiting for two more to be made... That was last fall... -- Nate Duehr, WY0X n...@natetech.com nate%40natetech.com -- James Adkins, KB0NHX Vice-President -- Nixa Amateur Radio Club, Inc. (KC0LUN) www.nixahams.net The Nixa Amateur Radio Club - There is no charge for awesomeness! (Well, only $1.00 per month)
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Looking for 220 Repeater Antenna
If you can find an Andrew DB224-JJ for the 220 ham band, that'd be ideal on the used market. Our club is using another discontinued Andrew product, a DB-573-EE. It's a 3 dB fiberglass omni. It's spec'd for 217-222 MHz, but we use it for 222.680 receive and 224.280 for TX and it sweeps and works fine. See www.nixahams.net and click on the repeaters link on the left for more info. 73, James Adkins, KB0NHX On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 11:02 AM, Michael Ryan mryan...@tampabay.rr.comwrote: Skipp are you reffering to the Hustler SPRIT Series or their ground plane amatuer model G7-220? Mike *From:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto: repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *skipp025 *Sent:* Monday, June 01, 2009 11:47 AM *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* [Repeater-Builder] Re: Looking for 220 Repeater Antenna The Hustler 220 Antenna is a great dollar value for both repeater and home station operation. s. Michael Ryan mryan...@... wrote: Seeing far fewer options for 220 repeater use than most other freq bands, I am turning to the group in hopes of hearing from someone who has had some success with their product of choice. I see on the web products from COMTELCO, The Antenna Factory, Hustler, and of course the amateur manufacturers. Nothing that I can recall has shown up on the used market and have seen little discussion on the reflector. Any help is appreciated. *Thanks.. - Mike __ NOD32 4118 (20090601) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com -- James Adkins, KB0NHX Vice-President -- Nixa Amateur Radio Club, Inc. (KC0LUN) www.nixahams.net The Nixa Amateur Radio Club - There is no charge for awesomeness! (Well, only $1.00 per month)
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Hello new member here w/question
You just can't go wrong with an Andrew DB-222 for what you're talking about On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 6:42 PM, Lee Pennington localjunkpedd...@gmail.comwrote: A Diamond F-23 works well for me, however lightning loves them. de Lee k4LJP 73 On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 6:31 PM, John Poindexter w...@arrl.net wrote: Hello, We are just getting into the repeater business for our club. We will run a 2 meter repeater, with seven cans. My questions is what would be a good antenna if we don't have the space to put a 4 bay antenna? The tower that we are starting with is only 50 feet with a 10 mast. Any ideas? This repeater is just for covering our county (a small county at that), we are not worrying about other counties hitting it. Thanks and 73 John, W3ML Knox, IN -- Smart pills are placebos, you can't fix stupid. -- James Adkins, KB0NHX Vice-President -- Nixa Amateur Radio Club, Inc. (KC0LUN) www.nixahams.net The Nixa Amateur Radio Club - There is no charge for awesomeness! (Well, only $1.00 per month)
[Repeater-Builder] GE Master III UHF conversion
Has anyone converted the GE Master III 450-470 MHz split repeater down into the ham band? I saw an article on Repeater Builder converting the lower split up to a ham split, but nothing on the higher 450-470 split down. -- James Adkins, KB0NHX
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Looking for Low-Band MICOR Parts
Good morning Larry, I have a VHF-low-band mobile micor that I'd sell to you for $50, plus shipping, if you're interested. I purchased it for a 6-meter repeater project a few years ago, and don't see that I'll be getting to it anytime soon, if ever, as 6m FM activity here in the KC area is slim. Can also send you a pic if you like. Model # is T71RTN3400B. If you'll put it to good use, I'll take a loss on it :-) I have cables and a control head for it, and a PacRT VHF repeater, but would cost more to ship those items with the rig probably, would just have to see. E-mail me direct if you like, and I can get you a shipping quote, or have questions. 816-272-5249 (home) 417-840-5261 (cell). 73, James Adkins, KB0NHX Technical Field Engineer - Missouri State Highway Patrol District 1 - Lee's Summit St. Joseph On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 11:57 AM, larryjspamme...@teleport.com lar...@teleport.com wrote: I'm trying to find a Low-Band (30-36 MHz or 25-30 MHz) Motorola MICOR 8-Watt Driver Amplifier Board. The part number is TLB1462A (30-36 MHz version) or TLB1461A (for 25-30 MHz). It was used in the MICOR series 330-Watt Base/Repeater stations. It amplifies the 400 mW MICOR exciter output to 8 watts, which then can drive the pair of 8560A tubes to 330 Watts. I doubt that the replacement coil and two variable capacitors are still available from Motorola to convert the 42-50 MHz version board (TLB1464A) that I currently have. I would also consider purchasing a complete station, for the right price, within driving distance (West Coast). Thanks, Larry lar...@teleport.com larryj%40teleport.com -- James Adkins, KB0NHX Vice-President -- Nixa Amateur Radio Club, Inc. (KC0LUN) www.nixahams.net The Nixa Amateur Radio Club - There is no charge for awesomeness! (Well, only $1.00 per month)
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Six Meter Repeater Noise Issues
Our 6-meter machine in Springfield, MO had an issue with a noise on the RX side. RX on 51.570 with TX RX duplexers and a dual cavity TX RX 11-18-06 bandpass filter on the front end, and we were getting a gurgling type noise. If we didn't run a PL, the squelch would hang open until the repeater shut down. The problem only seemed to occur after about 4 p.m. and usually went away around 9 or 10 at night. We were determined not to install the repeater at the final site until we could make sure that there was not a problem with the repeater. After a couple weeks of checking and double checking and and looking for interference, we finally found it . . . . It was an Apex 24 TV! Shutting it off resovled the problem. You just never know when it's 6-meters! Lots of noise out there, but, that's part of the fun, too, is the extra challenges of putting up a 6-meter machine. On Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 9:14 AM, Milt men...@pa.net wrote: A similar war story from back in the early 90's...Commercial customer with a 35MHz base complaining of dramatically reduced range. Base and mobiles checked out fine, antenna system fine, just trouble receiving the mobiles. Dropping the PL with the antenna connected I noticed what seemed to be a constant carrier. A bit of wandering about with a scanner using increasingly short lengths of wire for antennas brought me to a nearby house. The noise seemed to be radiating on the telephone line and the power line. The house was a rental owned by the company with the radio so after proper contact was made an inside sweep found the ... telephone answering machine!?!?!?! The device was powered by a wall wart supply with an very long cord (getting any clues yet?); which had recently come back from a repair center. The wall wart had a slightly audible hum. A snap together ferrite with as much of the excess power wiring wound onto the ferrite as possible, and another ferrite on the telco line brought the noise to a level that was not detectable at the base station. Milt N3LTQ - Original Message - *From:* neal Newman cozy...@yahoo.com *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, December 26, 2008 9:39 AM *Subject:* Re: [Repeater-Builder] Six Meter Repeater Noise Issues Noise on the six meter repeater. On my machine 53.67 in New jersey I was getting noise that was holding the machine Keyed up. then drop. and key up again. I thought it was desense Even with a big expensive Commercial Duplexer. with the transmitter off, the normal unsquelched Hiss sounded Fine No noise that we could detect. after weeks of this. We finally found out what the Problem was. the 2 meter,and 440 machines next to it ran just fine.however They both had an IRLP link on them. The Noise problem turned out to be the Router/switch. The Noise it was creating was just at the threshold level to Key and hold open the repeater. BTW. The 6 meter machine was in PL with a Tone of 67hz.. Not a good choice. between the60 cycle noise of a bad wall wart for the router switch and the noise it created. might as well put a flea power transimitter with PL sitting on the repeaters input. changed the router swich and PL tome. and Problem wentt away. Verizon uses cheapo routers. we placed the new one in a shielded box Neal-KA2CAF --- On *Thu, 12/25/08, Mike Morris WA6ILQ wa6...@gmail.com* wrote: From: Mike Morris WA6ILQ wa6...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Six Meter Repeater Noise Issues To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, December 25, 2008, 10:12 PM At 11:06 AM 12/25/08, you wrote: Hi To All Hope everybody had a good Christmas, While the subject was brought up, I have been having a similar experience here at my location. It is not on a repeater, but a simplex radio (vertex VX3000l mobile) for a base on the natl Red Cross freq of 47 mhz. In the daytime the receiver is quiet and hears fine. It seems as about the time the sun starts going down, the receiver's squelch opens and has a constant static noise for many hours but still receives fine. It may do it all night, I don't know, I haven't stayed up to see, just leave the radio on and go to bed. Was wondering if could be power line noise (but why wouldn't do in daytime also)? Is there any interference to the HF bands like this at night? Thanks, Mike KB5FLX An old trick - if the on-time changes about 6 minutes a day then it's light-dependent (i..e a photo-electric triggered yard light). In your shoes I'd power the radio from a gell-cell, and then go flip breakers off one at a time. That will tell you if the noise source is inside the house, and if so, on which breaker. Mike WA6ILQ -- James Adkins, KB0NHX District 1 Technical Field Engineer Troop A--Lee's Summit; Troop H--St. Joseph Missouri State Highway Patrol 504 SE Blue Parkway Lee's Summit, MO 64063 816-622-0707 ext. 235 417-840-5261 (Cell) I'm James Adkins and I
[Repeater-Builder] CAT RLS-1000B Audio level adjustments
I have drug out the cheat sheet I developed when tuning up our two RLS-1000B remote link switches by Computer Automation Technology. I e-mailed them to the handfull that wanted them. If anyone thinks it would be a good file to have, I will place it in the files section. -- James Adkins, KB0NHX District 1 Technical Field Engineer Troop A--Lee's Summit; Troop H--St. Joseph Missouri State Highway Patrol 504 SE Blue Parkway Lee's Summit, MO 64063 816-622-0707 ext. 235 417-840-5261 (Cell) I'm James Adkins and I approve this message
[Repeater-Builder] Andrew DB-636NSE-C 450-470 MHz fiberglass omni
Does anyone have any experience using Andrew's DB-636NSE-6 6 dBd fiberglass omni on the UHF ham band, in particular 444 and up? I prefer the DB-420, but the tower owner is requiring a fiberglass antenna less than 12' tall, and this fits the bill. Thanks, -- James Adkins, KB0NHX Vice-President Repeater Trustee -- Nixa Amateur Radio Club, Inc. (KC0LUN) www.nixahams.net
Re: [Repeater-Builder] MTR 2000
I'd highly recommend a Motorola MSF-5000 that's PC programmable. They are bulletproof and can be had for probably half of a used MTR-2000. On 11/21/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can expect to spend at least $1000 for a used MTR and anywhere from $4000 to $7000 for a new one. 40 watt units are a little cheaper than 100 watt but not by much. I'd recommend looking for something else because the MTR's can be expensive to repair should any repair be needed that requires module replacement. True service manuals are not available (never have been) and even flat rate repair is a little pricey. Also they won't apply flat rate to one that has lightening damage. Gary John Transue [EMAIL PROTECTED] jtransue%40cox.net wrote: To help me determine whether the Motorola MTR 2000 is our of my club's funding range, would someone tell me approximately what a ham radio club would have to pay for such a repeater? John -- James Adkins, KB0NHX District 1 Technical Field Engineer Troop A--Lee's Summit; Troop H--St. Joseph Missouri State Highway Patrol 504 SE Blue Parkway Lee's Summit, MO 64063 816-622-0707 ext. 235 417-840-5261 (Cell) I'm James Adkins and I approve this message
[Repeater-Builder] Decibel DB-4076 duplexers
I just got a set of Decibel DB-4076 duplexers, currently tuned to 452.xxx and 457.xxx Mhz. It has not cables, however. Does anyone know the length of the interconnect cables needed for these duplexers, or would I just need to make a 1/2 electrical wavelength cable for each of the 4 cables? Thanks, -- James Adkins, KB0NHX
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Decibel DB-4076 duplexers
Yes, that's it. On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 5:31 PM, Ken Arck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 03:08 PM 11/16/2008, James Adkins wrote: I just got a set of Decibel DB-4076 duplexers, currently tuned to 452.xxx and 457.xxx Mhz. It has not cables, however. Does anyone know the length of the interconnect cables needed for these duplexers, or would I just need to make a 1/2 electrical wavelength cable for each of the 4 cables? ---Are you saying the cavity interconnect cable assemblies are missing? Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/ Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and we offer complete repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net We don't just make 'em. We use 'em! -- James Adkins, KB0NHX District 1 Technical Field Engineer Troop A--Lee's Summit; Troop H--St. Joseph Missouri State Highway Patrol 504 SE Blue Parkway Lee's Summit, MO 64063 816-622-0707 ext. 235 417-840-5261 (Cell) I'm James Adkins and I approve this message
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Decibel DB-4076 duplexers
I did send an e-mail off to DB Spectra tech support. The duplexers have N-females on them, and from what I found on the repeater builder website, it was a smaller style of coax. We'll see what they have to say and I'll pass it along in case someone else needs the information later down the road. . . On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 6:23 PM, Eric Lemmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Go here for the current info on the DB-4076 duplexer: www.dbspectra.com/UserFiles/File/DB4076.pdf 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comRepeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comRepeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ken Arck Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 4:02 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Decibel DB-4076 duplexers At 03:34 PM 11/16/2008, James Adkins wrote: Yes, that's it. Man...as I remember, the interconnects are RG214 with bnc's and t connectors on each cavity. You might want to check with Tessco or Talley as they both rep Andrew (who bought out DB Products as I remember) Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/ http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/ Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and we offer complete repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net http://www.irlp.net We don't just make 'em. We use 'em! -- James Adkins, KB0NHX District 1 Technical Field Engineer Troop A--Lee's Summit; Troop H--St. Joseph Missouri State Highway Patrol 504 SE Blue Parkway Lee's Summit, MO 64063 816-622-0707 ext. 235 417-840-5261 (Cell) I'm James Adkins and I approve this message
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Decibel DB-4076 duplexers
Thanks, Mike. You can send the measurements to me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] you prefer. Your duplexer is one of the DB-4076's made by Decibel Products / Andrew Telecom? Later, On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 7:26 PM, Mike Mullarkey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a duplexer and can send whoever the cable measurements. Mike -- *From:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Eric Lemmon *Sent:* Sunday, November 16, 2008 5:24 PM *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* RE: [Repeater-Builder] Decibel DB-4076 duplexers Go here for the current info on the DB-4076 duplexer: www.dbspectra.com/UserFiles/File/DB4076.pdf 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comRepeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comRepeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ken Arck Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 4:02 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Decibel DB-4076 duplexers At 03:34 PM 11/16/2008, James Adkins wrote: Yes, that's it. Man...as I remember, the interconnects are RG214 with bnc's and t connectors on each cavity. You might want to check with Tessco or Talley as they both rep Andrew (who bought out DB Products as I remember) Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/ http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/ Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and we offer complete repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net http://www.irlp.net We don't just make 'em. We use 'em! -- James Adkins, KB0NHX District 1 Technical Field Engineer Troop A--Lee's Summit; Troop H--St. Joseph Missouri State Highway Patrol 504 SE Blue Parkway Lee's Summit, MO 64063 816-622-0707 ext. 235 417-840-5261 (Cell) I'm James Adkins and I approve this message
[Repeater-Builder] VHF Micor for sale VHF-Low-band micor for sale for 6m band
I have a Motorola Micor VHF station for sale for $100.00 plus any shipping. The station has a unified chasis backplane, and is currently tuned to 154.430 and has both TX and RX crystals. The unit has a TFD6102A 192 MHz low-pass filter bolted onto the back. Also included is the TLD5322A exciter, the station control card needed to interface to an external controller, a DC transfer module and a line driver module. The Audio Squelch board is a TRN6006A1 board, I could not find the model of the receiver, but it's currently on 154.280. The PA is a 110w intermittent duty PA, and te unit comes with a TPN1151A power supply. If you are interested, contact me off the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and I can send pics, etc. I have not tested this unit, but it appears in good shape and the person that gave it to me said he removed it from working service. The unit is missing the shield over the exciter card, but otherwise in tact. I also have a VHF-Low-band 110w mobile, perfect for use on the 6-meter band, for sale. Comes with control head and pac rat repeater with interface cable. $25.00 for anyone interested, plus any shipping. I'm in the KC metro area, so if you are in Missouri, I may be able to meet you part way with the unit as I frequently travel throughout NW Missouri and frequent the Springfield, MO area, too. -- James Adkins, KB0NHX I'm James Adkins and I approve this message -- James Adkins, KB0NHX District 1 Technical Field Engineer Troop A--Lee's Summit; Troop H--St. Joseph Missouri State Highway Patrol 504 SE Blue Parkway Lee's Summit, MO 64063 816-622-0707 ext. 235 417-840-5261 (Cell) I'm James Adkins and I approve this message
[Repeater-Builder] VHF Micor for sale
I have a Motorola Micor VHF station for sale. The station has a unified chasis backplane, and is currently tuned to 154.430 and has both TX and RX crystals. The unit has a TFD6102A 192 MHz low-pass filter bolted onto the back. Also included is the TLD5322A exciter, the station control card needed to interface to an external controller, a DC transfer module and a line driver module. The Audio Squelch board is a TRN6006A1 board, I could not find the model of the receiver, but it's currently on 154.280. The PA is a 110w intermittent duty PA, and te unit comes with a TPN1151A power supply. If you are interested, contact me off the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and I can send pics, etc. I have not tested this unit, but it appears in good shape and the person that gave it to me said he removed it from working service. The unit is missing the shield over the exciter card, but otherwise in tact. I'm in the KC metro area, so if you are in Missouri, I may be able to meet you part way with the unit as I frequently travel throughout NW Missouri and frequent the Springfield, MO area, too. -- James Adkins, KB0NHX I'm James Adkins and I approve this message
Re: [Repeater-Builder] eBay security
Or, you can simply forward it to [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 9:05 PM, Randy Brumback [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: There is a way to report this email to fleaBay and I have done it before. You would need to go to Options then Source then highlight all the information and click copy. Then paste it in an email to fleaBay and they will take it from there. That is if you want to go to the trouble of helping them. Randy *From:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Paul Plack *Sent:* Wednesday, October 22, 2008 7:01 PM *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* Re: [Repeater-Builder] eBay security Or, before you install more stuff on your PC, just go see if you can log in. BTW, I get the same e-mail about four times a year. If I hold the cursor over the link provided in the e-mail, the URL shown at bottom of the screen never goes to a page within ebay.com, but rather to some other site with a page with ebay as part of the name. Dead giveaway. 73, Paul, AE4KR - Original Message - *From:* Peter Summerhawk [EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, October 22, 2008 4:08 PM *Subject:* RE: [Repeater-Builder] eBay security Think your being taken for a ride. Install the ebay toolbar and it will tell you if the site is indeed ebay. Peter Summerhawk -- *From: *Chuck Lippmeier [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent: *Wednesday, October 22, 2008 1:40 PM *To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Subject: *[Repeater-Builder] eBay security Have you all been asked at eBay to give up Mathers Madian Name, SSN, Bank acct number and way too much private information as a new security measure? Apparently, until I give them this I can't get into my account, even to complain about it. Or, has eBay been hacked and I'm being phished? Thx Chuck Lippmeier Messages in this topic http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/message/86307;_ylc=X3oDMTM1ZTZjZmY4BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEwNDE2OARncnBzcElkAzE3MDUwNjMxMDgEbXNnSWQDODYzMDcEc2VjA2Z0cgRzbGsDdnRwYwRzdGltZQMxMjI0NzEyNzI0BHRwY0lkAzg2MzA3 (1) Reply (via web post) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJwb2ZjZ3U4BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEwNDE2OARncnBzcElkAzE3MDUwNjMxMDgEbXNnSWQDODYzMDcEc2VjA2Z0cgRzbGsDcnBseQRzdGltZQMxMjI0NzEyNzI0?act=replymessageNum=86307| Start a new topic http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJka21zNWQwBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEwNDE2OARncnBzcElkAzE3MDUwNjMxMDgEc2VjA2Z0cgRzbGsDbnRwYwRzdGltZQMxMjI0NzEyNzI0 [The entire original message is not included] -- James Adkins, KB0NHX District 1 Technical Field Engineer Troop A--Lee's Summit; Troop H--St. Joseph Missouri State Highway Patrol 504 SE Blue Parkway Lee's Summit, MO 64063 816-622-0707 ext. 235 417-840-5261 (Cell) I'm James Adkins and I approve this message
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola CDM-1250 PL tone control
Thanks, Milt. I found that yesterday and it appears to be working. On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 8:25 AM, Milt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Look at the help files accompanying the CPS program, especially the ACCESSORY Configuration tab, ACCESSORY Connector for pin definitions and the ACCESSORY Pins Tab. Also look at the manuals for the i20 repeater controller and the Z340 Comunity repeater controller. One of the options on several of the pins is TX PL DISABLE (INPUT). Definable as High or Low for active level. Milt N3LTQ - Original Message - *From:* James Adkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* repeater-builder Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Monday, October 13, 2008 3:10 PM *Subject:* [Repeater-Builder] Motorola CDM-1250 PL tone control We are using a pair of Motorola CDM-1250 UHF mobiles, 403-470 split, for our UHF repeater along with an Arcom RC-210 controller. We want to strip the PL tone when CW and / or Voice ID's are sent. The arcom controller has the capability of sending logic out to the radio or an external tone board to turn the encode on or off. Does anyone have any knowledge of how one might be able to inject the CTCSS logic into the 16-pin accessory port, or otherwise connect to the CDM radio and control whether the CDM will encode our PL tone or not? Another option is the CommSpec SS-64, which I have on hand. However, we cannot simply parallel the tone output into the pre-emphasized audio input of the radio. I know that the radio could probably be programmed for no pre-emphasis, but I don't want to bypass limiting. Ideas or suggestions? Maybe someone knows a good location to inject the tone directly into the radio's modulator? Thank you, James Adkins, KB0NHX [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- James Adkins, KB0NHX District 1 Technical Field Engineer Troop A--Lee's Summit; Troop H--St. Joseph Missouri State Highway Patrol 504 SE Blue Parkway Lee's Summit, MO 64063 816-622-0707 ext. 235 417-840-5261 (Cell) I'm James Adkins and I approve this message -- James Adkins, KB0NHX District 1 Technical Field Engineer Troop A--Lee's Summit; Troop H--St. Joseph Missouri State Highway Patrol 504 SE Blue Parkway Lee's Summit, MO 64063 816-622-0707 ext. 235 417-840-5261 (Cell) I'm James Adkins and I approve this message
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola CDM-1250 PL tone control
I got to looking in the schematics, and was going to try injecting the tone at U0221, pin 40, which is supposed to be the MOD IN, as it's labeled, but it's really the audio output (after all filtering, etc) that goes to the RF stage. Instead of doing that, I found in the software that if you program pin 8 to TX PL / DPL Inhibit (input) you can actually control the CDM's PL tone encocoder. I checked on another repeater we use, the Motorola R1225, and it has the same option, I think it was on pin 6, though. On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 7:01 PM, Radio Guy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you find out how to do that, let me know! I gave up and switched to Tait TM8110 it allows ctcss injection. We are using a pair of Motorola CDM-1250 UHF mobiles, 403-470 split, for our UHF repeater along with an Arcom RC-210 controller. We want to strip the PL tone when CW and / or Voice ID's are sent. The arcom controller has the capability of sending logic out to the radio or an external tone board to turn the encode on or off. Does anyone have any knowledge of how one might be able to inject the CTCSS logic into the 16-pin accessory port, or otherwise connect to the CDM radio and control whether the CDM will encode our PL tone or not? Another option is the CommSpec SS-64, which I have on hand. However, we cannot simply parallel the tone output into the pre-emphasized audio input of the radio. I know that the radio could probably be programmed for no pre-emphasis, but I don't want to bypass limiting. Ideas or suggestions? Maybe someone knows a good location to inject the tone directly into the radio's modulator? Thank you, James Adkins, KB0NHX [EMAIL PROTECTED] adkins.james%40gmail.com -- James Adkins, KB0NHX District 1 Technical Field Engineer Troop A--Lee's Summit; Troop H--St. Joseph Missouri State Highway Patrol 504 SE Blue Parkway Lee's Summit, MO 64063 816-622-0707 ext. 235 417-840-5261 (Cell) I'm James Adkins and I approve this message --- Ken -- James Adkins, KB0NHX District 1 Technical Field Engineer Troop A--Lee's Summit; Troop H--St. Joseph Missouri State Highway Patrol 504 SE Blue Parkway Lee's Summit, MO 64063 816-622-0707 ext. 235 417-840-5261 (Cell) I'm James Adkins and I approve this message
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola CDM-1250 PL tone control
Thanks, Eric. On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 8:34 PM, Eric Lemmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: James, You can program a pin on the accessory connector to do exactly what you want, and even make it active high or active low to be compatible with your controller. It is better to let the radio do the encoding and decoding of CTCSS tones, since you have the reverse-burst STE built-in- a feature that is normally not available in aftermarket controllers. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comRepeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comRepeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of James Adkins Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 12:10 PM To: repeater-builder Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola CDM-1250 PL tone control We are using a pair of Motorola CDM-1250 UHF mobiles, 403-470 split, for our UHF repeater along with an Arcom RC-210 controller. We want to strip the PL tone when CW and / or Voice ID's are sent. The arcom controller has the capability of sending logic out to the radio or an external tone board to turn the encode on or off. Does anyone have any knowledge of how one might be able to inject the CTCSS logic into the 16-pin accessory port, or otherwise connect to the CDM radio and control whether the CDM will encode our PL tone or not? Another option is the CommSpec SS-64, which I have on hand. However, we cannot simply parallel the tone output into the pre-emphasized audio input of the radio. I know that the radio could probably be programmed for no pre-emphasis, but I don't want to bypass limiting. Ideas or suggestions? Maybe someone knows a good location to inject the tone directly into the radio's modulator? Thank you, James Adkins, KB0NHX [EMAIL PROTECTED] adkins.james%40gmail.com mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] adkins.james%40gmail.com -- James Adkins, KB0NHX District 1 Technical Field Engineer Troop A--Lee's Summit; Troop H--St. Joseph Missouri State Highway Patrol 504 SE Blue Parkway Lee's Summit, MO 64063 816-622-0707 ext. 235 417-840-5261 (Cell) I'm James Adkins and I approve this message -- James Adkins, KB0NHX District 1 Technical Field Engineer Troop A--Lee's Summit; Troop H--St. Joseph Missouri State Highway Patrol 504 SE Blue Parkway Lee's Summit, MO 64063 816-622-0707 ext. 235 417-840-5261 (Cell) I'm James Adkins and I approve this message
[Repeater-Builder] Motorola CDM-1250 PL tone control
We are using a pair of Motorola CDM-1250 UHF mobiles, 403-470 split, for our UHF repeater along with an Arcom RC-210 controller. We want to strip the PL tone when CW and / or Voice ID's are sent. The arcom controller has the capability of sending logic out to the radio or an external tone board to turn the encode on or off. Does anyone have any knowledge of how one might be able to inject the CTCSS logic into the 16-pin accessory port, or otherwise connect to the CDM radio and control whether the CDM will encode our PL tone or not? Another option is the CommSpec SS-64, which I have on hand. However, we cannot simply parallel the tone output into the pre-emphasized audio input of the radio. I know that the radio could probably be programmed for no pre-emphasis, but I don't want to bypass limiting. Ideas or suggestions? Maybe someone knows a good location to inject the tone directly into the radio's modulator? Thank you, James Adkins, KB0NHX [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- James Adkins, KB0NHX District 1 Technical Field Engineer Troop A--Lee's Summit; Troop H--St. Joseph Missouri State Highway Patrol 504 SE Blue Parkway Lee's Summit, MO 64063 816-622-0707 ext. 235 417-840-5261 (Cell) I'm James Adkins and I approve this message
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Daniel's repeater
Again, I highly recommend the Crescend amplifiers. If I remember correctly, they make the amps for Daniel's (the lower powered ones). Have never had a problem with their amps. I can't say the same for TPL. My experience is they provide Temporary, Problematic, Lack-luster performance. On 10/30/07, R. K. Brumback [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It sounds like Daniel's may not make the 100 amp but use a downstream amplifier. That would be ok with us also. Randy -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of CO004 Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 6:41 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Daniel's repeater In a not so long ago life I had a number of them to maintain around the State of Colorado, all at very high, remote, solar sites. They were extremely dependable and worked well in both analog and P25. At one site, lightning took out the solar controller two different times, but the Daniels came right back up both times after the solar controller was replaced and the batteries charged up a bit. Harry On Oct 28, 2007, at 4:12 PM, R. K. Brumback wrote: Until a couple of days ago I never heard of a Daniel's repeater. Yahoo! Groups Links No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.12/1097 - Release Date: 10/28/2007 1:58 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.12/1097 - Release Date: 10/28/2007 1:58 PM Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Daniel's repeater
In a nutshell, yes they're great. The documentation you get with the station is wonderful, too. We have been using them here in Missouri for two years now and not any problems with them. They are known for their low current consumption. If they don't make an amplifier that suits your needs, they recommend Crescend amplifiers. Again, highly recommended. On 10/28/07, R. K. Brumback [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Until a couple of days ago I never heard of a Daniel's repeater. I am looking for a new VHF analog repeater and one of my friends mentioned Daniel which is in Canada. Is anyone familiar with this company and their products? No essays, but just looking for a short Yes their great or Don't even think about them. Many thanks in advance. Randy No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.12/1096 - Release Date: 10/27/2007 11:02 AM -- James Adkins, KB0NHX Vice-President Repeater Trustee Nixa Amateur Radio Club, Inc. (KC0LUN) District 1 Technical Field Engineer Troop A--Lee's Summit; Troop H--St. Joseph Missouri State Highway Patrol 504 SE Blue Parkway Lee's Summit, MO 64063 816-622-0707 ext. 235 417-840-5261 (Cell) The Nixa Amateur Radio Club--we're not just a thermometer reflecting the health of ham radio in SW MO, we're the thermostat effecting positive change in ham radio and disaster communications Those saying it can't be done should stay out of the way of those doing it --Chinese proverb accepted and adhered to by the Nixa Amateur Radio Club, Inc., A 501(c)(3) organization working together with the community to enhance the robustness of Southwest Missouri Emergency Communications
Re: [Repeater-Builder] 220MHz Repeater Amp.
Crescend makes ;possibly the best out there, but I don't know if they make any that will cover the 220 ham band. On 10/7/07, Eric Lemmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Adam, Look into TPL amplifiers, at www.tpl.com 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comRepeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comRepeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Adam C. Feuer Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 3:29 PM To: repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com repeater-builder%40yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] 220MHz Repeater Amp. Hello All, Looking for any suggestions other than Henry Radio or TE Systems for a 220MHz repeater amp. Preferably 5 to 10 watts in with 100 or so out. Thanks in advance! Adam N2ACF -- James Adkins, KB0NHX Vice-President Repeater Trustee Nixa Amateur Radio Club, Inc. (KC0LUN) District 1 Technical Field Engineer Troop A--Lee's Summit; Troop H--St. Joseph Missouri State Highway Patrol 504 SE Blue Parkway Lee's Summit, MO 64063 816-622-0707 ext. 235 417-840-5261 (Cell) Those saying it can't be done should stay out of the way of those doing it --Chinese proverb accepted and adhered to by the Nixa Amateur Radio Club, Inc., A 501(c)(3) organization working together with the community to enhance the robustness of Southwest Missouri Emergency Communications
[Repeater-Builder] Motorola items for sale
I have a few items to part with and thought someone on the list might have a need for them or some of the components on them. Motorola Micor Line Driver, TLN-4669A Motorola Micor DC Transfer, TLN-4659A Motorola Micor coax relay, TLN-4295A2PR, with BNC to phono jumpers Also have a Motorla Syntor X with programming module, model # T73 VBJ04BK 100w VHF mobile w/ control head, cable, and power cord. Lastly, a Motorla TMN-6172A DTMF mobile mic Any interest, you can e-mail me direct at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or call at 417-840-5261. I have pics of all items. 73's, James Adkins, KB0NHX
[Repeater-Builder] 23cm repeaters
Anyone have any good recommendations for 23cm repeaters besides D-Star? I've read about the Icom RP-1200 and using two TM-541s. Are there other options that are as good or better? Thanks, -- James
Re: [Repeater-Builder] SAME WX Radios
Yes, it's a timed radio, unfortunately. On 5/9/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All Speaking of WX Radios with SAME There seems to be 2 basic types of these radios. Some play the audio for around 5-10 minutes and shut down (just seems to be a timer in the WX Radio) and some shut down after they receive the mute command over the air from the NWS right after the bulletin ends. It would seem to me that I would want a WX Radio to do the announcement and then SHUT UP! Especially if the weather is bad. Is that Midland WR-100 a timed radio, or one that responds to the tones? If not, any suggestions? 73, Brian .. SEE EVERYONE AT DAYTON! -- See what's free at AOL.com http://www.aol.com/?ncid=AOLAOF0002000503. -- James Adkins, KB0NHX Vice-President Repeater Trustee Nixa Amateur Radio Club, Inc. (KC0LUN) District 1 Technical Field Engineer Troop A--Lee's Summit; Troop H--St. Joseph Missouri State Highway Patrol 504 SE Blue Parkway Lee's Summit, MO 64063 816-622-0707 ext. 235 417-840-5261 (Cell) Those saying it can't be done should stay out of the way of those doing it --Chinese proverb accepted and adhered to by the Nixa Amateur Radio Club, Inc., A 501(c)(3) organization working together with the community to enhance the robustness of Southwest Missouri Emergency Communications
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Midland WR-100 Weather Receiver w/S.A.M.E. Decoder Interface HOWTO
Might be cool for the cox south location . . . . On 3/31/07, crackedofn0de [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just interfaced one of these to an Arcom RC210 controller for automatic announcement and broadcast of NOAA warnings in my county. If you're interested, see below URL for a photo with the hookup points. This turned out to be pretty simple and works just as an expensive commercial rack mount weather receiver, but for about $40. http://n0de.org/k7icu/r/wr100.html James K7ICU -- James Adkins, KB0NHX Vice-President Repeater Trustee Nixa Amateur Radio Club, Inc. (KC0LUN) District 1 Technical Field Engineer Troop A--Lee's Summit; Troop H--St. Joseph Missouri State Highway Patrol 504 SE Blue Parkway Lee's Summit, MO 64063 816-622-0707 ext. 235 417-840-5261 (Cell) Those saying it can't be done should stay out of the way of those doing it --Chinese proverb accepted and adhered to by the Nixa Amateur Radio Club, Inc., A 501(c)(3) organization working together with the community to enhance the robustness of Southwest Missouri Emergency Communications
