Re: [Repeater-Builder] Pager interference

2010-08-08 Thread Mike Morris
At 11:38 AM 08/07/10, you wrote: Hi, I've got a new pager issue that has come up on a tower where we have a VHF repeater. It's about 400 watts erp and 15 feet horizontal distance and 4.3 and 4.7 MHz away (it switches). I'm thinking of using one bp/br can that will have the notch wide enough to

[Repeater-Builder] Pager interference

2010-08-07 Thread Dwayne
Hi, I've got a new pager issue that has come up on a tower where we have a VHF repeater. It's about 400 watts erp and 15 feet horizontal distance and 4.3 and 4.7 MHz away (it switches). I'm thinking of using one bp/br can that will have the notch wide enough to cover both channels and one pass

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Pager interference

2010-08-07 Thread Jim in Waco WB5OXQ
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 1:38 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Pager interference Hi, I've got a new pager issue that has come up on a tower where we have a VHF repeater. It's about 400 watts erp and 15 feet horizontal distance and 4.3 and 4.7

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Pager interference

2010-08-07 Thread gervais
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Pager interference You may have to put a can on the pager transmitter. Pagers use square waves which are very rich in harmonics and need to be filtered at the source. This may be the only way to remove the problem. I speak from experience. Jim wb5oxq in Waco

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Pager interference

2010-08-07 Thread Joe
1:38 PM *Subject:* [Repeater-Builder] Pager interference Hi, I've got a new pager issue that has come up on a tower where we have a VHF repeater. It's about 400 watts erp and 15 feet horizontal distance and 4.3 and 4.7 MHz away (it switches). Your email settings

[Repeater-Builder] Pager Interference Revisited

2010-04-24 Thread Mike Besemer (WM4B)
This is a continuation of the repeater interference issue we started to have last October. Maybe with a few new pieces of data, it'll spur some new thoughts. Background: Last October, our repeater (146.850 MHz) started experiencing pager interference. The interference can be clearly heard on

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Pager Interference Revisited

2010-04-24 Thread Chuck Kelsey
. Just a thought. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: Mike Besemer (WM4B) mwbese...@cox.net To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 12:08 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Pager Interference Revisited This is a continuation of the repeater interference

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Pager Interference Revisited

2010-04-24 Thread Mike Besemer (WM4B)
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Pager Interference Revisited This is a continuation of the repeater interference issue we started to have last October. Maybe with a few new pieces of data, it'll spur some new thoughts. Background: Last October, our repeater (146.850 MHz) started experiencing

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Pager Interference Revisited

2010-04-24 Thread Chuck Kelsey
it. That spur ended up on our work repeater output and we were 20 miles from that source. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: Mike Besemer (WM4B) To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 1:09 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Pager Interference

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Pager Interference Revisited

2010-04-24 Thread Kris Kirby
On Sat, 24 Apr 2010, Mike Besemer (WM4B) wrote: The issue disappeared over the winter months. If it's a hot, sunny day you can be sure the problem will be present. A hot, cloudy day is also a fairly good bet. Also, a cooler, sunny day will bring it out. Cool and cloudy or cold and sunny

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Pager Interference Revisited

2010-04-24 Thread Barry
foxhunt maybe ? To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com From: mwbese...@cox.net Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 13:09:08 -0400 Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Pager Interference Revisited That’s one I hadn’t thought of, Chuck. Definitely

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Pager Interference Revisited

2010-04-24 Thread Mike Besemer (WM4B)
...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Barry Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 2:38 PM To: repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Pager Interference Revisited foxhunt maybe ? _ To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com From: mwbese...@cox.net Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 13:09:08 -0400

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Pager Interference to 2-meter VHF Public Service Band

2009-10-30 Thread Jim Brown
- Jim  W5ZIT --- On Wed, 10/28/09, Mike Besemer (WM4B) mwbese...@cox.net wrote: From: Mike Besemer (WM4B) mwbese...@cox.net Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Pager Interference to 2-meter VHF Public Service Band To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, October 28, 2009, 7:03 PM

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Pager Interference to 2-meter VHF Public Service Band

2009-10-29 Thread Mike Besemer (WM4B)
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Pager Interference to 2-meter VHF Public Service Band Hello Mike. The first clue is that the signal is moving up and down the 2 meter band. This would tell me that something not frequency controlled is causing the interference. Not frequency controlled would

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Pager Interference to 2-meter VHF Public Service Band

2009-10-29 Thread Mike Besemer (WM4B)
...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of MCH Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 11:51 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Pager Interference to 2-meter VHF Public Service Band I have to wonder how he can say his stuff is clean when this just started a couple weeks ago. Did he

Re: {Disarmed} Re: [Repeater-Builder] Pager Interference to 2-meter VHF Public Service Band

2009-10-29 Thread Marvin Hoffman
, October 28, 2009 12:28 PM *Subject:* [Repeater-Builder] Pager Interference to 2-meter VHF Public Service Band A couple of weeks ago, our repeater system started to experience interference from a paging system... ...one evening I tracked it from about 145.120

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Pager Interference to 2-meter VHF Public Service Band

2009-10-29 Thread Doug Bade
-level technicians with a clue about RF systems. 73, Paul, AE4KR - Original Message - From: mailto:mwbese...@cox.netMike To: mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comRepeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 12:28 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Pager Interference to 2

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Pager Interference to 2-meter VHF Public Service Band

2009-10-29 Thread Dick Kittrell
Mike- On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 05:33:10 -0500, Mike Besemer (WM4B) mwbese...@cox.net wrote: I was told (caveat) that he verified the spectrum after the interference started. Since he's investing quite a bit of time into helping clear this up, I have to believe he's done that. A

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Pager Interference to 2-meter VHF Public Service Band

2009-10-29 Thread Joe
Mike Besemer (WM4B) wrote: Joe, The problem isn’t traffic dependant (10 am being a busy time), as I monitor on and off all day and there is PLENTY of traffic all day long. It seems to have more to do with temperature. You can clearly hear the signals come on and fade off frequency I had

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Pager Interference to 2-meter VHF Public Service Band

2009-10-29 Thread mwbesemer
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 1:45 PM, Joe wrote: Mike Besemer (WM4B) wrote: Joe, The problem isn’t traffic dependant (10 am being a busy time), as I monitor on and off all day and there is PLENTY of traffic all day long. It seems to have more to do with temperature. You can clearly hear

[Repeater-Builder] Pager Interference to 2-meter VHF Public Service Band

2009-10-28 Thread Mike
A couple of weeks ago, our repeater system started to experience interference from a paging system. The repeater is on 146.850 (-600 KHz), with the antenna system about 120 feet up a water tower. The repeater itself is an Advanced Communications System KRP-5000 running 35 watts through a set

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Pager Interference to 2-meter VHF Public Service Band

2009-10-28 Thread mwbesemer
There are at least two transmitters at two sites... not likely they're all bad. But... the owner has assured me they're clean and I haven't seen anything hokey on the spectrum analyzer from the repeater site. Mike WM4B On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 2:46 PM, dmur...@verizon.net wrote: Did you look a

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Pager Interference to 2-meter VHF Public Service Band

2009-10-28 Thread Matt Harker
28, 2009 1:28:56 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Pager Interference to 2-meter VHF Public Service Band A couple of weeks ago, our repeater system started to experience interference from a paging system.  The repeater is on 146.850 (-600 KHz), with the antenna system about 120 feet up a water

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Pager Interference to 2-meter VHF Public Service Band

2009-10-28 Thread mwbesemer
with it and see what you find. Especially around 304.960 MHz which is the double of 152.480 MHz. KC5DBH Matt ___ From: Mike mwbese...@cox. net To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Wed, October 28, 2009 1:28:56 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Pager Interference to 2

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Pager Interference to 2-meter VHF Public Service Band

2009-10-28 Thread MCH
Dirty paging TX. Seen that many times. Joe M. Mike wrote: A couple of weeks ago, our repeater system started to experience interference from a paging system. The repeater is on 146.850 (-600 KHz), with the antenna system about 120 feet up a water tower. The repeater itself is an

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Pager Interference to 2-meter VHF Public Service Band

2009-10-28 Thread MCH
304.960 MHz which is the double of 152.480 MHz. KC5DBH Matt *From:* Mike mwbese...@cox.net *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Wed, October 28, 2009 1:28:56 PM *Subject:* [Repeater-Builder] Pager

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Pager Interference to 2-meter VHF Public Service Band

2009-10-28 Thread Kevin King
, 2009 1:29 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Pager Interference to 2-meter VHF Public Service Band A couple of weeks ago, our repeater system started to experience interference from a paging system. The repeater is on 146.850 (-600 KHz), with the antenna system about

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Pager Interference to 2-meter VHF Public Service Band

2009-10-28 Thread Paul Plack
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 12:28 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Pager Interference to 2-meter VHF Public Service Band A couple of weeks ago, our repeater system started to experience interference from a paging system... ...one evening I tracked

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Pager Interference to 2-meter VHF Public Service Band

2009-10-28 Thread Mike Besemer (WM4B)
@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul Plack Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 6:29 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Pager Interference to 2-meter VHF Public Service Band Mike, If it moves around based on time of day, my

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Pager Interference to 2-meter VHF Public Service Band

2009-10-28 Thread Mike Besemer (WM4B)
] On Behalf Of Kevin King Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 6:02 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Pager Interference to 2-meter VHF Public Service Band I would look at the exciter freq on the uhf paging transmitter. It would help with some info

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Pager Interference to 2-meter VHF Public Service Band

2009-10-28 Thread Paul Plack
motivating. - Original Message - From: Mike Besemer (WM4B) To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 5:34 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Pager Interference to 2-meter VHF Public Service Band I'm with ya on your third paragraph. We've worked

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Pager Interference to 2-meter VHF Public Service Band

2009-10-28 Thread Mike Besemer (WM4B)
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 7:48 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Pager Interference to 2-meter VHF Public Service Band Mike, the interference is clearly not caused by your own rusty roof, and is both eggregious and easily documented. I know we

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Pager Interference to 2-meter VHF Public Service Band

2009-10-28 Thread Joe
Hello Mike. The first clue is that the signal is moving up and down the 2 meter band. This would tell me that something not frequency controlled is causing the interference. Not frequency controlled would mean that the transmitter is not crystal or GPS locked to a specific frequency. Now,

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Pager Interference to 2-meter VHF Public Service Band

2009-10-28 Thread MCH
...@cox.net *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, October 28, 2009 12:28 PM *Subject:* [Repeater-Builder] Pager Interference to 2-meter VHF Public Service Band A couple of weeks ago, our repeater

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Pager Interference to 2-meter VHF Public Service Band

2009-10-28 Thread Glenn Little WB4UIV
*Sent:* Wednesday, October 28, 2009 12:28 PM *Subject:* [Repeater-Builder] Pager Interference to 2-meter VHF Public Service Band A couple of weeks ago, our repeater system started to experience interference from a paging system... ...one evening I tracked

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Pager Interference to 2-meter VHF Public Service Band

2009-10-28 Thread Facility 406 DM09
: There is some software that allows finger printing of a transmission : base on the lockup signature and oscillator stability as seen on the : transmitted signal. I am interested in such things! Anyone have any good suggestions or input regarding software or systems? Kurt

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Pager Interference to 2-meter VHF Public Service Band

2009-10-28 Thread Kris Kirby
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009, Facility 406 DM09 wrote: I am interested in such things! Anyone have any good suggestions or input regarding software or systems? Cavity - digital storage oscilliscope. -- Kris Kirby, KE4AHR Disinformation Analyst

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Pager Interference to 2-meter VHF Public Service Band

2009-10-28 Thread DCFluX
I'd use a really fast spectrum analyzer, meaning an analog one and point a video camera at it On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 10:19 PM, Kris Kirby k...@catonic.us wrote: On Wed, 28 Oct 2009, Facility 406 DM09 wrote: I am interested in such things!  Anyone have any good suggestions or input regarding