On May 11, 2006, at 12:23 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Simplex repeaters (a.k.a. parrots) make nice self-diagnostic
tools, but I
question their usefulness in emergency situations. In addition to the
halved throughput per minute, collisions between stations using the
parrot
can be a
At 5/10/2006 23:15, you wrote:
Bob -
I was just looking at the 144.930/147.585 pair used for itinerant
repeaters elsewhere. In New York, UNYREPCO coordination policy calls
for 15-mile spacing with the adjacent 147.015/147.615 pair used by
N2IED in Corning.
Paul W2ARK
147.585 isn't adjacent
Bob -
Thanks for straightening me out. I'll apply to the coordination
council for that pair.
Paul
On May 11, 2006, at 11:22 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 5/10/2006 23:15, you wrote:
Bob -
I was just looking at the 144.930/147.585 pair used for itinerant
repeaters elsewhere. In New
At 5/8/2006 11:37, you wrote:
At 06:29 AM 05/08/06, you wrote:
Re: Crossband/Portable repeaters
- Here in Colorado, we have two 2 Meter pairs designated for statewide
use for portable/emergency/special event repeaters. These pairs get used to
fill in the dead spots when emergencies occur. A
At 5/8/2006 19:52, you wrote:
Well, you've gotten me all fired up again on the simplex repeater
idea. Hearing everything twice isn't a bad idea. In the telephone
business, we solved a lot of operator problems by service observing
that consisted of recording a sample of each operator's calls and
At 5/8/2006 05:51 PM, you wrote:
We can't even get real emergency groups around here to use STANDARD
OFFSET UHF repeaters most of the time.
Color me VERY skeptical that any more than a few people will ever truly
use a wide-split portable VHF repeater in a true emergency.
Overloaded, stressed
Re: Crossband/Portable repeaters
- Here in Colorado, we have two 2 Meter pairs designated for statewide
use for
portable/emergency/special event repeaters. These pairs get used to
fill in the dead spots when
emergencies occur. A number of clubs and ARES groups have portable
repeaters
08, 2006 1:20 AM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Portable Repeaters
I've not been too successful in convincing the various Upstate New
York Amateur Radio Associations that simplex repeaters are the answer
for providing portable repeaters in critical incident response
situations. They are relying
,
Dick
- Original Message -
From: Paul Yonge [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: 07 May, 2006 22:20
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Portable Repeaters
I've not been too successful in convincing the various Upstate New
York Amateur Radio Associations that simplex
Pick a clear pair and go for it. The FCC is the only authority than has
a word to say in the end. If you do interfere with someone just work it
out like the ladies and gentlemen we are supposed to be.
Paul Yonge wrote:
I've not been too successful in convincing the various Upstate New
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Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 1:20 AM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Portable Repeaters
I've not been too successful in convincing the various Upstate New
York Amateur Radio Associations that simplex repeaters are the answer
for providing portable repeaters in critical
At 06:29 AM 05/08/06, you wrote:
Re: Crossband/Portable repeaters
- Here in Colorado, we have two 2 Meter pairs designated for statewide
use for portable/emergency/special event repeaters. These pairs get used to
fill in the dead spots when emergencies occur. A number of clubs and ARES
groups
Dick -
Thanks for the comment. Some of the responses I got were somewhat in
favor of the idea but they might have been worried about cost. Your
suggestion takes care of that!
Paul
On May 8, 2006, at 11:05 AM, Dick wrote:
Paul:
Out here in southern CA, our emergency group uses a couple
In anticipation of needing the liaison contacts, I joined up with
nearly every association in Upstate New York so I can enlist their
suggestions as to what channels are used locally and can try to avoid
them. Thanks.
Paul
On May 8, 2006, at 11:13 AM, Ronny Julian wrote:
Pick a clear
Ronny,
It does not seem like a good idea to me to pop up on an untested
channel(s) during an emergency. It would make sense to me to find a
usable pair before the s**t hits the fan. Things are stressful enough in
an emergency without trying to move both the repeater and then get all
users to
!
73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Yonge
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 4:59 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Portable Repeaters
Mike -
What a batch of good ideas
Eric Lemmon wrote:
Paul,
When you push for a wide-spaced portable repeater pair on 2m, suggest a
separation of at least 3 MHz. The reason is that you can buy compact base
station duplexers that are specified for 3.0 MHz spacing, but the
performance rapidly deteriorates as the spacing is
Ed -
Thanks for pointing out that making folks remember to wait for the
two-meter repeater to drop out can be stressful in a situation
already full of stress. I'm hoping that the NHRC controllers will let
us implement the encoding and decoding you suggest.
Paul W2ARK
On May 8, 2006, at
Eric -
Thanks for the comments on duplexers. When I started this in January,
I remember reading some comments about some duplexers getting out-of-
tune from bouncing around (mainly in shipping) and that's what got
me thinking about simplex repeaters and, now, about cross-band
repeaters. Is
Nate -
You did a great job of answering the question I posed to Eric before
I read this. Parking a standby itinerant repeater on a pair of
frequencies that are temporarily down due to the emergency does make
a lot of sense. Hopefully this discussion will spark some inter-
association
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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Yonge
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 6:20 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Portable Repeaters
Eric -
Thanks for the comments on duplexers. When I started
Eric -
Thanks for the education on duplexers. I had planned to stow the
repeater in a Pelican case but some of our New York roads are a
little rough especially if we're looking for a high point in the
vicinity of an incident. Your comments on preparedness are well-
presented. If we want to
I've not been too successful in convincing the various Upstate New
York Amateur Radio Associations that simplex repeaters are the answer
for providing portable repeaters in critical incident response
situations. They are relying on the fixed repeaters to provide
adequate coverage but there
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