Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter

2008-04-27 Thread Wayne
Must be that because splices were/are very seldom used, the prices are astronomical. I will wait, for now, till I see what the future will bring me. By splicing only where the cable can be well supported on both sides of the splice, I would anticipate no problems using what I have. And

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter

2008-04-27 Thread Nate Duehr
On Apr 25, 2008, at 11:35 PM, Wayne wrote: > Did some searching, and it looks like splices would run maybe twice > or > more the cost of one male and one female. Yup. This probably falls into the category of "you get what you pay for" when compared to regular connectors. > As it is, I ha

Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter

2008-04-24 Thread Wayne
. > Andrew part numbers are L45R > > Ralph > - Original Message - > From: Ron Wright<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com<mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 8:54 AM > Subj

Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter

2008-04-24 Thread Wayne
other applications needing a spice. > > Would have lower loss and cost less than two connectors. More reliable > also. > > 73, ron, nn9ee/r > > > > > >> From: Wayne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Date: 2008/04/24 Thu PM 10:21:01 CDT >> To: Repeater-

Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter

2008-04-24 Thread Ralph Messer
eater-Builder@yahoogroups.com<mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> >Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter > Thanks, I had no way of knowing that. Tells me the connectors are good >parts. > The 4 Heliax connectors I bought with the cable are Andrew connec

RE: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter

2008-04-24 Thread Paul Finch
oups.com Subject: Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter Wayne, One issue on the connectors for reconnecting coax. Many make back to back type connectors for this. They are essentially the back end of 2 connectors joined as one piece/connector. Mostly used where a long feedline cannot be pla

Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter

2008-04-24 Thread Ron Wright
applications needing a spice. Would have lower loss and cost less than two connectors. More reliable also. 73, ron, nn9ee/r >From: Wayne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: 2008/04/24 Thu PM 10:21:01 CDT >To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com >Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter

2008-04-23 Thread Wayne
Thanks, I had no way of knowing that. Tells me the connectors are good parts. The 4 Heliax connectors I bought with the cable are Andrew connectors. I'm wondering when the Andrew web site will be back up. Is it based in taiwan? I know they had problems there due to a major quake that shut

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter

2008-04-23 Thread Alexandre Souza
>> I have that on my site: >> http://www.tabajara-labs.com.br/eletronica/gambiarras/ >> Send me the photos and I'll put there :o) > I just got back from a visit to the 'Gambiarras" where I fell out of > my chair laffing so hard... LOL is putting it TOO mildly Take a look around

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter

2008-04-23 Thread no6b
At 4/23/2008 23:30, you wrote: > Cannot see any braid without undoing one of the N connectors on the RG214 >jumper. You can scrape a tiny piece of the outer jacket off at the connector & take a peek. If the jumper is going to be outside, that area will need to be weatherproofed anyway. > C

Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter

2008-04-23 Thread Ron Wright
Nice install. The guys need some work, but the RF gear looked good. 73, ron, n9ee/r >From: Nate Duehr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: 2008/04/22 Tue PM 07:58:31 CDT >To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com >Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter > &

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter

2008-04-22 Thread Wayne
Cannot see any braid without undoing one of the N connectors on the RG214 jumper. Connectors are evidently not Amphenol, unless they didn't mark them as such. The cable says RG214/U. Connectors marked 74868 UG-1185/U Seems to be good quality. No leakage that I can tell, and zero resista

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter

2008-04-22 Thread Nate Duehr
Alexandre Souza wrote: >> p.s: I've run across several other technology-groups who like to post >> 'Wall of Shame' pix - got a few myself. Any interest out there? > > I have that on my site: > http://www.tabajara-labs.com.br/eletronica/gambiarras/ > > Send me the photos and I'll put

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter

2008-04-22 Thread Nate Duehr
Wayne wrote: > I also have a bulkhead mount Polyphaser which I could, for the time > being, install at the repeater itself and use a jumper there that is Others may disagree, but the Polyphaser is only "perfect" if tied to a properly planned single-point or halo/ring grounding system. It'

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter

2008-04-22 Thread Mike Morris WA6ILQ
At 03:35 AM 04/22/08, you wrote: > > p.s: I've run across several other technology-groups who like to post > > 'Wall of Shame' pix - got a few myself. Any interest out there? > > I have that on my site: > http://www.tabajara-labs.com.br/eletronica/gambiarras/ > > Send me the photos and

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter

2008-04-22 Thread Wayne
Use of the antenna could be considered theft of services IMO. Theft of services covers a number of things. Not sure what the 240 volts would do, maybe burn out loops in the duplexers being used, if it managed that before kicking the circuit breaker. Possible melt some of that teeny coax t

Re: Re: Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter

2008-04-22 Thread Ron Wright
Neal, Sure send me the control and I'll take a look. 73, ron, n9ee/r >From: neal Newman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: 2008/04/22 Tue AM 10:53:07 CDT >To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com >Subject: Re: Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter > >

Re: Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter

2008-04-22 Thread neal Newman
ubject: Re: Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter > To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > Date: Tuesday, April 22, 2008, 9:05 AM > Neal, > > Your point is a good one. We don't know the whole > story and many of our comments are for fun. There may be a > real good reason wh

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter

2008-04-22 Thread Alexandre Souza
> p.s: I've run across several other technology-groups who like to post > 'Wall of Shame' pix - got a few myself. Any interest out there? I have that on my site: http://www.tabajara-labs.com.br/eletronica/gambiarras/ Send me the photos and I'll put there :o)

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter

2008-04-22 Thread no6b
At 4/23/2008 00:45, you wrote: > Okay, at this point, I have the following: > 100 feet of LD5-50A > 1 Female 'N' connector for same > 3 male 'N' connectors for same, plus an additional male 'N' from another >source. All for the LDF5050A cable > At antenna, a 3 or 4 foot 1/2" Heliax jumper

Re: Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter

2008-04-22 Thread Ron Wright
TED]> >Date: 2008/04/22 Tue AM 07:44:46 CDT >To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com >Subject: Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter > >On a quick Note Ron >If the repeater was for emergency services( Police,fire,ems or during a >storm) ,and was a Must Ge

Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter

2008-04-22 Thread neal Newman
t <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter > To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > Date: Tuesday, April 22, 2008, 7:22 AM > Larry, > > I thought the same thing except I would go for more 240 > V...a good old TV transformer with about

Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter

2008-04-22 Thread Larry Wagoner
At 06:22 AM 4/22/2008, you wrote: >Larry, >I thought the same thing except I would go for more 240 V...a good >old TV transformer with about 800V would do. Also if you stand >inside the building looking for smoke it would lead to the user of >the feedline. Bet they would not do it again. >This w

Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter

2008-04-22 Thread Ron Wright
, ron, n9ee/r >From: Larry Wagoner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: 2008/04/21 Mon PM 06:08:47 CDT >To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com >Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter > >At 05:43 PM 4/21/2008, you wrote: >>I would think the one using t

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter

2008-04-22 Thread Wayne
Okay, at this point, I have the following: 100 feet of LD5-50A 1 Female 'N' connector for same 3 male 'N' connectors for same, plus an additional male 'N' from another source. All for the LDF5050A cable At antenna, a 3 or 4 foot 1/2" Heliax jumper, as the connectors for the 7/8" Helia

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter

2008-04-21 Thread neal Newman
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter > To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > Date: Tuesday, April 22, 2008, 3:00 PM > Looking at the pictures gives me a couple of ideas. > first is that the person who cut the heliax must be > really dense to think > he could get away wit

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter

2008-04-21 Thread Wayne
For the record, the Andrews web site seems to still be down. Means all info I fiond is from other web sites, vendors, etc... Also, it seems that Andrews has discontinued a couple of types of Heliax, including what I have. One person came up with them only making it with aluminum outer sh

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter

2008-04-21 Thread Wayne
;mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com<mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 3:00 PM > Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter > > > Looking at the pictures gives me a couple of ideas. >

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter

2008-04-21 Thread Mike Besemer (WM4B)
ce they do call this AMATEUR radio, sometimes we've got to accept the next best thing. YMMV, Mike WM4B From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nate Duehr Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 4:10 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [R

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter

2008-04-21 Thread Larry Wagoner
At 05:43 PM 4/21/2008, you wrote: >I would think the one using the cable is the one who cut it. Or at the very least is responsible - given that that person's equipment is connected. One cannot claim ignorance at a certain point ... And it is the CUTTING of the hardline that is the criminal damag

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter

2008-04-21 Thread Ron Wright
Jeff, I would think the one using the cable is the one who cut it. 73, ron, n9ee/r >From: Jeff Kincaid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: 2008/04/21 Mon PM 04:54:19 CDT >To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com >Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter > >The site manager had doped out

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter

2008-04-21 Thread Nate Duehr
Wayne wrote: > Looking at the pictures gives me a couple of ideas. > first is that the person who cut the heliax must be really dense to think > he could get away with it. All one needs to do is trace that other coax to > wherever. Plus it might be possible to lift fingerprints from the hel

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter

2008-04-21 Thread Ralph Messer
ater-Builder@yahoogroups.com<mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 3:00 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter Looking at the pictures gives me a couple of ideas. first is that the person who cut the heliax must be really dense to think

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter

2008-04-21 Thread Wayne
Looking at the pictures gives me a couple of ideas. first is that the person who cut the heliax must be really dense to think he could get away with it. All one needs to do is trace that other coax to wherever. Plus it might be possible to lift fingerprints from the heliax. Second, looks

Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter

2008-04-21 Thread Ron Wright
, ron, n9ee/r >From: Jim Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: 2008/04/21 Mon AM 03:09:16 CDT >To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com >Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter > >I finally got a new connector and jumper cable installed last week on a >

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter

2008-04-21 Thread Alexandre Souza
>I was really glad I had a "new" camera from eBay with me for testing. > It was unusual that I had it along but I think I should change that > and make it a habit to bring one on service calls in the future. Cameras are so cheap nowadays you can always have a "disposable" 2mpixels camera on y

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter

2008-04-21 Thread Larry Wagoner
At 06:44 AM 4/21/2008, you wrote: >One other question I have; Was this perp Amateur, or Commercial? What I wonder is why this person has not faced criminal charges. What was done was criminal damage to property - and if that is a significant length of hardline - it could be FELONY criminal dam

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter

2008-04-21 Thread Jim Brown
I finally got a new connector and jumper cable installed last week on a repeater that has been out of service for several months. The hard line and jumper had been cut with an ax and removed for scrap copper. It has taken me this long to find a connector for the hard line. They climbed a chai

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter

2008-04-20 Thread n9wys
Not only did he follow it, he wired it to 120VAC after he repaired his Heliax... Seriously -- I hope he followed it, if only to find out who the moron was that did that! (And then reported it to the tower/site manager.) Mark - N9WYS -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter

2008-04-20 Thread Tony Lelieveld
While investigating a problem with a Low-Band (46 MHz) repeater, we determined that the antenna harness on a DB 212-4 was bad. It turned out that two UHF female "T" connectors were bad. The center pin of the "T" was, instead of screwing into the center of the through pin, making contact with the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter

2008-04-20 Thread Radioman
Over the years I thought I had seen it all. That one takes the prize. Harry, W0OZL - Original Message - > Here's a link to a photo I made during a recent service call. Someone > has cut the Heliax to our UHF receive antenna and spliced a piece of > RG-58 to it.

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter

2008-04-20 Thread ka9qjg
That Picture give the Term Low Loss Coax a New meaning, what an idiot who ever it was , Thanks for posting I would of not believed it had I not seen the Pic Happy Repeater Building Don KA9QJG

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter

2008-04-20 Thread Ed Yoho
Hopefully whoever was connected to the RG-58 is no longer a tenant. Ed Yoho WA6RQD