Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Kerchunk

2009-03-19 Thread scomind
Don, And?when are the?existing repeater owners are going to *SEE* new additions in programming to the?7330 SCOM controller? There has been a series?of?software?upgrades for the 7330 since its introduction,?and the latest will be coming out as soon as one last item is fixed. Be aware that?we

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Kerchunk

2009-03-18 Thread Don Kupferschmidt
-Builder] Repeater Kerchunk Hi Don, and where in the Heck did this Word KERCHUNK Originate from We all know what it means Early tube-type repeaters used large relays to key the transmitter. When someone keyed and unkeyed the repeater the result really was a loud kerchunk at the site. It led

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Kerchunk

2009-03-16 Thread Joe
If you start to worry about the kerchunkers your going to drive yourself crazy. I've had several repeaters for years and have learned that the kerchunkers are usually someone who has just discovered your repeater and want to know how it covers an area. They'll drive around testing it in many

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Kerchunk

2009-03-16 Thread Radio Guy
I agree with all the comments. What I do is listen to the signal, usually there is a distinctive sound from the mike being squeezed or noise on the signal, I'm almost certain who my kerchunker is, as he has used my repeater before! On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 8:13 AM, Joe k1ike_m...@snet.net wrote:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Kerchunk

2009-03-16 Thread Dave Gomberg
At 05:13 3/16/2009, Joe wrote: If you start to worry about the kerchunkers your going to drive yourself crazy. I've had several repeaters for years and have learned that the kerchunkers are usually someone who has just discovered your repeater and want to know how it covers an area. I admit

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Kerchunk

2009-03-16 Thread whensley11
My thoughts would be... let it be.  Do NOT let anybody know it may bother you.  If they know it bothers you, they will keep doing it. As a long time ham I do kerchunk repeaters, especially my local one.  Why? To check the status and cycle of the I.D. If the repeater has been

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Kerchunk

2009-03-16 Thread Joe
Legally, you should be identifying by giving your call. But, that is inviting a conversation with whoever hears you. One of the repeaters here has a ham who hangs around constantly. Sometimes I chose not to talk to him, but just want to check and see if the repeater is on the air and OK.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Kerchunk

2009-03-16 Thread AJ
Anyone listened to the latest Gordon West, WB6NOA audio CDs for the tech class license? Happened to sit it on a tech licensing class a couple months ago... If I recall correctly, the verbiage he (WB6NOA) used while demonstrating repeaters was first, we'll key it up to see if it's on... I'll

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Kerchunk

2009-03-16 Thread Mike Naruta AA8K
When I make a transmission on a repeater that hasn't been used for a while, I state my intent and call sign, and the repeater ids after I let go of the PTT. I have made a legal transmission, I gain the information that the repeater has been dormant, AND I know that my transmission held the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Kerchunk

2009-03-16 Thread mwbesemer
Well said! de WM4B Mike Naruta AA8K a...@comcast.net wrote: When I make a transmission on a repeater that hasn't been used for a while, I state my intent and call sign, and the repeater ids after I let go of the PTT. I have made a legal transmission, I gain the information that the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Kerchunk

2009-03-16 Thread no6b
At 3/15/2009 22:15, you wrote: The duration-based anti-kerchunk filters are way more obnoxious than the kerchunkers IMHO, and they also block legitimate users who make quick calls. Not if it's implemented properly. A proper anti-kerchunk will key the repeater TX on any valid input activity

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Kerchunk

2009-03-16 Thread scomind
Hi Kim, If the repeater has been inactive for a while, when it first transmits it sends its I.D.? Since I don't want to be 'washed out' by the I.D., I kerchunk the repeater.? Once the I.D. has finished, or the I.D. has not been sent, I will then put out my call to see if anybody's on the air.

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Kerchunk

2009-03-16 Thread Nate Duehr
are just a part of life when you run repeaters, basically. Nate From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul Plack Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 11:16 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Kerchunk

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Kerchunk

2009-03-16 Thread Nate Duehr
8:24 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Kerchunk At 05:13 3/16/2009, Joe wrote: If you start to worry about the kerchunkers your going to drive yourself crazy. I've had several repeaters for years and have learned that the kerchunkers are usually

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Kerchunk

2009-03-16 Thread Paul Plack
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 12:24 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Kerchunk Your call + testing is fine. If a kerchunk is good enough for you to confirm that you have solid communications in the first place, just make the transmission legal and if someone replies, great

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Kerchunk

2009-03-16 Thread ka9qjg
._,___ Well I will have to admit I have got a New ant Mobile and Base really did not feel like Talking to anyone but Just Kerchunked a Distant Repeater to see if I was getting into it, I also think this was done more because a Lot of Hams including Myself actually had a Hard time understand

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Kerchunk

2009-03-16 Thread Nate Duehr
are stupid… time to upgrade… Nate WY0X From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of whensle...@comcast.net Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 8:37 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Kerchunk My thoughts

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Kerchunk

2009-03-16 Thread scomind
Hi Don, and where in the Heck did this Word KERCHUNK Originate from We all know what it means Early tube-type?repeaters?used large relays?to key the transmitter. When someone keyed and unkeyed the repeater the result really was a loud?kerchunk at the site. It led to what we now call courtesy

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Kerchunk

2009-03-16 Thread no6b
At 3/15/2009 22:15, you wrote: The duration-based anti-kerchunk filters are way more obnoxious than the kerchunkers IMHO, and they also block legitimate users who make quick calls. Not if it's implemented properly. A proper anti-kerchunk will key the repeater TX on any valid input activity

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Kerchunk

2009-03-15 Thread ka9qjg
___ Most of the time they are looking for an audience sometimes it is best to ignore them they will move to a bigger coverage Repeater, unless it is something personal against you or one of the users. Record, Including the Input, Times, Date, Signal on Input share this info with other

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Kerchunk

2009-03-15 Thread Kris Kirby
On Sat, 14 Mar 2009, retiredcss01 wrote: We have some on our repeater frequency, that just like to kerchunk the repeater to hear it come back or ID. Is there any way we can eliminate this annoying situation? I suspect that we may have an unlicensed individual with a 2meter radio. If

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Kerchunk

2009-03-15 Thread Paul Plack
Your kerchunkers are most likely licensed hams. This is an issue as old as repeaters. It's illegal to kerchunk without ID-ing, but there's not much you can do about it. Is the repeater PL access? Use decode on your receiver, and all you'll hear is a quiet squelch break, no courtesy tones, IDs

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Kerchunk

2009-03-15 Thread AJ
The duration-based anti-kerchunk filters are way more obnoxious than the kerchunkers IMHO, and they also block legitimate users who make quick calls. What Paul said :) One of the macros on our repeaters for special event/emergency comms use specifically turns OFF the anti-kerchunk filter for