Re: [Repeater-Builder] 6 Meter Heliax Duplexers

2010-07-05 Thread Steve
Hi OH right, one theory out the window then. I made one but it was very poor so I have on order from Procom a real 50Mhz duplexer. Steve - Original Message - From: Tim tahr...@swtexas.net To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 05, 2010 12:13 AM Subject: Re:

[Repeater-Builder] Re: help and suggestions interference issues

2010-07-05 Thread paul_k6eh
Actually, with regards to a D-DSTAR signal opening up an analog receiver set to decode only PL, it can happen. I had an analog repeater (Motorola) co-channeled with a D-STAR repeater. The users of the D-STAR repeater would in fact open up my repeaters receiver and pass through. I'm trying to

RE: [Repeater-Builder] 6 Meter Heliax Duplexers

2010-07-05 Thread Tim
Hi steve, got it figured, tnx to Bob (wa1mik). I didn't catch the part in his article that said Receive only!! Guess i'll try some larger air variables, or go to The original design that used lengths of coax Down rhe center conductor as a gimmic' cap. I'll report back on how things turn out.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] 6 Meter Heliax Duplexers

2010-07-05 Thread Steve
Hi Tim glad you sorted it,they do work very well as a lot of 6mtr rptrs here in the UK use them, I had no success, big problem. I checked it with my analyser and the isolation was rubbish at 30dB, so I binned it 73 Steve

Re: [Repeater-Builder] MASTR II LOW BAND TUNING

2010-07-05 Thread James Cicirello
Hi Eric, First thanks you for pointing me to the manuals and Don for the NHRC Tuning site. Eric the combination numbers are MC74AAU33A. They came from a trucking company and I think they are on 47.XXX. I am taking over the Wellsville 53.090 Repeater as the original owner is re-locating. He has a

Re: [Repeater-Builder] MASTR II LOW BAND TUNING

2010-07-05 Thread Chuck Kelsey
Jim - My experience with 6-FM is that you are going to have a much harder time hearing the repeater than getting in to it. The noise encountered in a mobile environment desenses your receiver. There are exceptions to this, but as a general rule it's true. So, some loss on RX isn't necessarily

Re: [Repeater-Builder] MASTR II LOW BAND TUNING

2010-07-05 Thread Rich Osman
That's why base stations have 250 - 300w where mobiles are 100. On 07/05/2010 12:20 PM, Chuck Kelsey wrote: Jim - My experience with 6-FM is that you are going to have a much harder time hearing the repeater than getting in to it. The noise encountered in a mobile environment

RE: [Repeater-Builder] MASTR II LOW BAND TUNING

2010-07-05 Thread Eric Lemmon
Jim, A low-band repeater with a flat-pack duplexer having 90 dB of isolation? That's amazing! My low-band repeater uses four 12 diameter cans that each stand about five feet tall. Your MC74AAU33A radio is an M-series 100 watt mobile radio, covered by PC-61 here:

[Repeater-Builder] MAXON TR-4800 Manual

2010-07-05 Thread radio5000
Anybody have a manual for a Maxon TR-4800? Thanks, Will

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: help and suggestions interference issues

2010-07-05 Thread Milt
Paul, If I read your message correctly you had the receiver set to open on PL only. Had you tried using PL AND CSQ (also called AND squelch) as the opening requirement? Milt N3LTQ - Original Message - From: paul_k6eh paulmetz...@hamradio-dv.org To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com

Re: [Repeater-Builder] MASTR II LOW BAND TUNING

2010-07-05 Thread James Cicirello
Hi Again Eric, When you get a chance will you look at these duplexers and give me your opinion? http://www.radiodata.com/fiplex/products/PDFs/DHV05.pdf The duplexer I got with the repeater is the Model DHV-0544.( THE 533 has been discontinued) The way I am reading their specs it is 90 dB at 1

Re: [Repeater-Builder] MASTR II LOW BAND TUNING

2010-07-05 Thread Chuck Kelsey
I'd certainly try single site since you've got the reject filters. It's certainly easier to manage than split site. With split site, in the hills we have around here, you are going to get two different coverage areas - one for TX and another for RX. If it were flatter, it wouldn't make a big

Re: [Repeater-Builder] MASTR II LOW BAND TUNING

2010-07-05 Thread James Cicirello
Good thoughts Chuck. I never thought about the two patterns. I have to check and make sure I have your Freq. programmed into my mobile. 73 JIM KA2AJH On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 5:32 PM, Chuck Kelsey wb2...@roadrunner.com wrote: I'd certainly try single site since you've got the reject filters.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] MASTR II LOW BAND TUNING

2010-07-05 Thread Chuck Kelsey
You might make if from a hilltop. The Limestone 6-meter machine that's linked in is down temporarily for some lightning repairs. That one is closer to you and you'd probably get into it if it were up. Chuck - Original Message - From: James Cicirello To:

RE: [Repeater-Builder] MASTR II LOW BAND TUNING

2010-07-05 Thread Chris Curtis
They are notch only devices and I've used similar devices using that helical design for years. If you don't have a lot of noise on/around site washing over your receive freq, they will get the job done. Kb0wlf From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com

RE: [Repeater-Builder] MASTR II LOW BAND TUNING

2010-07-05 Thread Eric Lemmon
Jim, I have no experience with such a small duplexer for low-band, since 6m repeaters in my area (Central California) have a 500 kHz split- which requires more isolation than a compact duplexer can muster. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] MASTR II LOW BAND TUNING

2010-07-05 Thread Joe
The spec sheet shows them to be bandpass/band reject. From the document: These duplexers utilize six high Q (helical) resonant cavities, interconnected in a band pass-band reject configuration which allows close spaced transmit-to-receive frequency operation. Joe On 7/5/2010 6:33 PM, Chris

RE: [Repeater-Builder] MASTR II LOW BAND TUNING

2010-07-05 Thread Chris Curtis
Yes, my error. I had the old DB products on the brain. =] Kb0wlf From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Joe Sent: Monday, July 05, 2010 6:18 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] MASTR II LOW BAND

RE: [Repeater-Builder] MASTR II LOW BAND TUNING

2010-07-05 Thread Eric Lemmon
I see what the sales flyer says, but the response plots show no real bandpass action. Indeed, the plots depict exactly how a notch-only duplexer responds. In fact, the plots look faked, IMHO. I have tuned many duplexers over the years, and none of the plots look so perfect. If Fiplex duplexers

RE: [Repeater-Builder] MASTR II LOW BAND TUNING

2010-07-05 Thread Jeff DePolo
I took a quick look at them, and what stands out like a sore thumb is 1.6 db insertion loss with a 150 watt power rating. That means they'll be dissipating close to 50 watts in such a small package. Doesn't give me a warm and fuzzy feeling... --- Jeff WN3A

Re: [Repeater-Builder] MASTR II LOW BAND TUNING

2010-07-05 Thread Paul Plack
...but it sure gives THEM a warm feeling! 73, Paul, AE4KR - Original Message - From: Jeff DePolo To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 05, 2010 8:08 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] MASTR II LOW BAND TUNING I took a quick look at them, and what stands