[Repoze-dev] zope.schema, zope.formlib in bfg? or help a newb understand zca coolness

2009-10-03 Thread Thomas G. Willis
OK, not sure if this is a blasphemous question or not. I've been slowly working through Web Component Development with Zope 3 , and instead of trying out the things in zopeproject, I figured that trying out the things in bfg as well may yield a greater understanding of what the heck is going on. I

Re: [Repoze-dev] zope.schema, zope.formlib in bfg? or help a newb understand zca coolness

2009-10-03 Thread Martin Aspeli
Thomas G. Willis wrote: OK, not sure if this is a blasphemous question or not. I've been slowly working through Web Component Development with Zope 3 , and instead of trying out the things in zopeproject, I figured that trying out the things in bfg as well may yield a greater understanding

Re: [Repoze-dev] zope.schema, zope.formlib in bfg? or help a newb understand zca coolness

2009-10-03 Thread Andreas Reuleaux
You might also want to look at Malte's repoze.formapi, see e. g. his blog entry http://mockit.blogspot.com/2009/05/forms-that-dont-make-you-tense-and.html Personally I can't comment on repoze.formapi vs. formish, as I have used neither of them yet, but I think both should work well with bfg,

Re: [Repoze-dev] zope.schema, zope.formlib in bfg? or help a newb understand zca coolness

2009-10-03 Thread Thomas G. Willis
:) I'll have to try this out too. That sounds like exactly what I'm looking for. On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 1:17 PM, Chris McDonough chr...@plope.com wrote: +1 to what Martin wrote, with something else that can only add to the confusion: recently I have been using Formish (http://ish.io) to do

Re: [Repoze-dev] zope.schema, zope.formlib in bfg? or help a newb understand zca coolness

2009-10-03 Thread Thomas G. Willis
I actually looked at this yesterday and it didn't seem to generate forms but does provide the marshaling + validation. so it seems to me it's similar to formencode/htmlfill, where I'm looking for something more like tw.forms. On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 2:35 PM, Andreas Reuleaux reule...@web.de

Re: [Repoze-dev] zope.schema, zope.formlib in bfg? or help a newb understand zca coolness

2009-10-03 Thread Carlos de la Guardia
Just a couple of comments on your bigger picture questions: #1 does bfg provide machinery for registering components or is that functionality specific to big daddy zope? I assume the answer is yes, augmented  with it depends. I realize that bfg is meant to isolate you from the zca, but darn

Re: [Repoze-dev] zope.schema, zope.formlib in bfg? or help a newb understand zca coolness

2009-10-03 Thread Chris McDonough
Martin Aspeli wrote: Thomas G. Willis wrote: I was kind of expecting that the book would have some gaps as far as bfg goes. I was hoping that going through the exercise of struggling through those gaps would help me arrive at a better understanding of all things zope(a lofty goal I'm

Re: [Repoze-dev] zope.schema, zope.formlib in bfg? or help a newb understand zca coolness

2009-10-03 Thread Martin Aspeli
Hi Chris, Chris McDonough wrote: Form generation libraries that contain validation are very tough to generalize in a way that lends itself to framework convenience. I think Formish does a pretty good job here, because it physically separates out a lot of stuff that's all glommed