Re: [Reproducible-builds] Usefulness of periodic reproducible builds e-mails

2015-10-05 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Emmanuel, On Montag, 5. Oktober 2015, Emmanuel Bourg wrote: > Thank you very much for the changes. Let's see how it goes, but I > suspect the volume of notifications will be much better and the need for > individual subscriptions less critical. we'll see. you are still subscribed to 1000 diffe

Re: [Reproducible-builds] Usefulness of periodic reproducible builds e-mails

2015-10-05 Thread Emmanuel Bourg
Le 03/10/2015 02:56, Holger Levsen a écrit : > I've limited notifications to unstable and experimental now, and also > improved > the code a bit that only one mail per is sent per source package in all > suites, no matter how many status changes it had. But we should still improve > it to allo

Re: [Reproducible-builds] Usefulness of periodic reproducible builds e-mails

2015-10-02 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Emmanuel, On Dienstag, 29. September 2015, Emmanuel Bourg wrote: > > I agree and am wondering if we should actually do this, and limit > > (maintainer) notifications to unstable? What do you think? > Well, if I understood your "this graph is a lie" properly in your talks, > I think the reproduc

Re: [Reproducible-builds] Usefulness of periodic reproducible builds e-mails

2015-09-30 Thread Markus Koschany
Am 30.09.2015 um 16:15 schrieb Mattia Rizzolo: [...] > This wouldn't work with the current implementation, which is emailing > $p...@packages.debian.org. Anyway, I received a suggestion of setting up > a new PTS keyword, so then people can go and subscribe there, maybe > using the team facility of

Re: [Reproducible-builds] Usefulness of periodic reproducible builds e-mails

2015-09-30 Thread Mattia Rizzolo
On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 11:13:40AM -0300, Miguel Landaeta wrote: > On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 02:27:18PM +0200, Emmanuel Bourg wrote: > > > > Markus (and the others), do you think it's ok to keep the notifications > > if they are limited to unstable ? Or would you prefer disabling them > > completely

Re: [Reproducible-builds] Usefulness of periodic reproducible builds e-mails

2015-09-30 Thread Miguel Landaeta
On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 02:27:18PM +0200, Emmanuel Bourg wrote: > > Markus (and the others), do you think it's ok to keep the notifications > if they are limited to unstable ? Or would you prefer disabling them > completely until the build environment stabilizes? I think there is value in receivi

Re: [Reproducible-builds] Usefulness of periodic reproducible builds e-mails

2015-09-30 Thread Emmanuel Bourg
Le 30/09/2015 13:00, Markus Koschany a écrit : > We have never discussed this before as a team. I vote for unsubscribing > pkg-java because of the issues that were pointed out already. I did request the notifications for the team, but I didn't really expect so many false positives. Sorry for the

Re: [Reproducible-builds] Usefulness of periodic reproducible builds e-mails

2015-09-30 Thread Markus Koschany
Hi, Am 30.09.2015 um 12:30 schrieb Holger Levsen: > Hi, > > (mostly ignoring the rest as this has been addressed already.) > > On Dienstag, 29. September 2015, Markus Koschany wrote: >> I understand that everything is still in development. However I don't >> think a public mailing list is a suit

Re: [Reproducible-builds] Usefulness of periodic reproducible builds e-mails

2015-09-30 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, (mostly ignoring the rest as this has been addressed already.) On Dienstag, 29. September 2015, Markus Koschany wrote: > I understand that everything is still in development. However I don't > think a public mailing list is a suitable testbed. My preferred solution > would be to make receivin

Re: [Reproducible-builds] Usefulness of periodic reproducible builds e-mails

2015-09-30 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Dienstag, 29. September 2015, Santiago Vila wrote: > Are we really spamming people with this? > (spam = unsolicited bulk email) no, we dont. please read https://reproducible.debian.net/index_notify.html cheers, Holger signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed messa

Re: [Reproducible-builds] Usefulness of periodic reproducible builds e-mails

2015-09-29 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Dienstag, 29. September 2015, Markus Koschany wrote: > I would like to take the opportunity to raise the following concern. I > support the reproducible builds effort but I think the periodic e-mails > to pkg-java are often not useful enough at the moment. There are far too > many false-pos

Re: [Reproducible-builds] Usefulness of periodic reproducible builds e-mails

2015-09-29 Thread Emmanuel Bourg
Le 29/09/2015 17:08, Holger Levsen a écrit : > I agree and am wondering if we should actually do this, and limit > (maintainer) > notifications to unstable? What do you think? Well, if I understood your "this graph is a lie" properly in your talks, I think the reproducibility in testing isn't v

Re: [Reproducible-builds] Usefulness of periodic reproducible builds e-mails

2015-09-29 Thread Markus Koschany
Am 29.09.2015 um 16:48 schrieb Emmanuel Bourg: > Le 29/09/2015 16:32, Markus Koschany a écrit : [...] > I agree the false positive are annoying, but this is understandable > since the system is still in development (the recent addition of > disorderfs caused some troubles for example). Fortunately

Re: [Reproducible-builds] Usefulness of periodic reproducible builds e-mails

2015-09-29 Thread Santiago Vila
On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 05:08:17PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: > I agree and am wondering if we should actually do this, and limit > (maintainer) > notifications to unstable? What do you think? Are we really spamming people with this? (spam = unsolicited bulk email) I know that other "services

Re: [Reproducible-builds] Usefulness of periodic reproducible builds e-mails

2015-09-29 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, thanks for explaining, Emmanuel! On Dienstag, 29. September 2015, Emmanuel Bourg wrote: > Actually I tend to prefer the reports in unstable. The reports in > testing are often duplicates of issues already known in unstable, and > sometimes they are already fixed in unstable when they are noti

Re: [Reproducible-builds] Usefulness of periodic reproducible builds e-mails

2015-09-29 Thread Emmanuel Bourg
Le 29/09/2015 16:32, Markus Koschany a écrit : > I would like to take the opportunity to raise the following concern. I > support the reproducible builds effort but I think the periodic e-mails > to pkg-java are often not useful enough at the moment. There are far too > many false-positives. The l