Re: Feature suggestion: missing member notification

2000-10-19 Thread Owen Watson


What are you talking about?? Do you want Retrospect, the back-up company,
to log *every single move* on all backed up computers and save that in an
unlimited log so you can see what you (or anyone) did "over the past years"??

mmm. . . I think you've misunderstood me. All I'm wanting is an 
indication that a set is incomplete either when I choose it from the 
list of backup sets (by perhaps a broken icon or whatever) or when 
the results of a restore are presented ie an alert saying "Not all 
the possible files are included in this restore, as one or more 
members of the set are missing". At the moment the only way you can 
find out whether a set is incomplete is going into the individual set 
and clicking on "Members" (I think).

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Re: Feature suggestion: missing member notification

2000-10-19 Thread David Ross

 mmm. . . I think you've misunderstood me. All I'm wanting is an
 indication that a set is incomplete either when I choose it from the
 list of backup sets (by perhaps a broken icon or whatever) or when
 the results of a restore are presented ie an alert saying "Not all
 the possible files are included in this restore, as one or more
 members of the set are missing". At the moment the only way you can
 find out whether a set is incomplete is going into the individual set
 and clicking on "Members" (I think).

It may or may not be true that not all files are there. When a member is
set missing the next thing retrospect does is try to get a new copy of
all files lost with the missing member. As long as you haven't deleted
them and you don't mind them being current they'll all be there.


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Re: Mac Client Uptdate - for Irena

2000-10-19 Thread Ben Mihailescu

Hi James,

I completely understand the Windows side of the client update. If you run the
update with the manual reboot client the old version will still be active until
after the first reboot. I've updated 59 clients last night before my nightly
backup with the manual reboot client (Win) and they have all been backed up
correctly over night.
So, Dantz, it would be nice to put the Mac Client Update software in a
"Macintosh Manual Reboot" folder, rather then just "Macintosh". Essentially it
would have avoided us having this discussion, and therefore be more
efficient.

Cheers, Ben

James Keagan wrote:

 I think what Irena was trying to say is that you must manually restart the
 Mac clients before the change takes effect.  The Windows clients have two
 separate .rcu files: one that will automatically restart the computer and
 one that requires a manual reboot.  And correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't
 the Windows client service completely stop until reboot, while the Mac
 client can continue operating even if there has not been a reboot (it will
 still be the same version, though)?

 J.

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 Subject: Re: Mac Client Uptdate - for Irena

 Hi Irena,

 Will they reboot automatically upon installation of the update, or they can
 be
 restarted manually? We are talking about Mac clients only. Your answer was
 great, but ambiguous. Sorry :-(

 Thanks again, Ben

 Irena Solomon wrote:

  Hi Ben,
 
  Yes, Mac clients must be restarted for the updated client software to load
  and run.
 
  Irena Solomon
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   From: Ben Mihailescu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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   Subject: Mac Client Uptdate
  
   Hi all,
  
   If I embark on updating all the Mac clients over the network, do the Mac
   clients need to be restarted, like the Windoz ones?
  
   Ben
  
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Re: Mac Client Uptdate

2000-10-19 Thread Chris Freemesser

Hi all,

If I embark on updating all the Mac clients over the network, do the Mac
clients need to be restarted, like the Windoz ones?

No, the backups will continue under the old client until the computer 
reboots, at which time the new client kicks in.

However, be aware that if any of your computers run Norton 
Anti-Virus' Auto-Protect extension, your Macs will crash when the 
server tries to update them.  I found this out the hard way.

Chris

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Windows Client Update (was Mac Client Uptdate - for Irena)

2000-10-19 Thread Thone, Bradley A (Sbcsi)


Is a reboot *really* necessary?

Or, can the service be stopped and restarted for full effect?

On initial installs, simply starting the newly installed service works...

Brad.
The guy who likes to automate and/or use the CLI for just about everything.
"The admin with the flattest butt wins."

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Subject: Re: Mac Client Uptdate - for Irena


So, Dantz, it would be nice to put the Mac Client Update software in a
"Macintosh Manual Reboot" folder, rather then just "Macintosh". Essentially
it
would have avoided us having this discussion, and therefore be more
efficient.

Cheers, Ben

Not to put this bluntly, but it is in the manual.  Page 91 in mine, 
plus in the supplement document that came with the Retrospect client 
upgrade.  Also a readme file on the CD for clients that states, all 
updated computers must be reboot.  Windows clients can be rebooted by 
selecting the Automatic Restart client for Windows.

Which, BTW - Does not always work.  The auto restart worked on about 
1 in 3 of the computers around here.




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VXA - random tapes from DCM?

2000-10-19 Thread sam edwards

Hi All,

I'm running a VXA Auto Pak with a single drive - and I have the Retrospect
4.3 special build for the Auto Pak.  Another question that I can't seem to
solve and Ecrix doesn't have any guesses for is that when I run my script,
the picker seems to choose random tapes.  I erased all the tapes after my
initial round of testing, but am wondering why random tapes are being
chosen.  No SCSI ID's have been changed, its as it was shipped, there is no
second drive (and I dont know if Retrospect 4.3 supports a 2nd drive as is).

Thanks for your help with my previous question, if any one has any ideas or
suggestions, please email me privately.

Best Regards, 
Sam



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