Re: user deferred?
I didn't, don't know about Gary. Except for MS-Office, Eudora, and a web browser, all of these systems were fairly plain-jane. All of the applications are shut down too. Gary, are you using OS9 Multiple users? I have a good question for Dantz that I think everyone should know, but I'll make a new thread for it. On 2/22/01 8:50 PM, "matt barkdull" wrote: Nobody but me even close to the Mac, and the Mac doesn't even come up and give the dialog box asking if they want to defer or not. Went back to the server after about 10 minutes and the log said "User Deferred". Do you have something like Okey Dokey installed on the clients? Pam -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
Re: tape or hard drive?
Hi David, Thanks for your comments. You raise some very valid issues, but I probably wasn't verbose enough to adequately describe my strategy. on 23/2/01 7:51 PM, David Ross at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The major problem with using a disk drive duplication backup strategy is that it leaves a lot of holes. 1. You're w/o a backup while the current one is running. So if things die during the backup Agreed, but I don't duplicate ... I use a combination of recycle and normal backups. The act of recycle will erase the previous backup, but I will come to that. After the recycle the rest of the week is normals so it adds to the backup set ... it does not replace it. You may recall that I size my second drive to hold a full backup plus a week of incrementals. 2. You can't go back in time to get a file that you didn't notice was missing or corrupted till after the last backup. Within the week I can as I do the recycle on Sunday, then nightly incrementals. On Saturday night I backup the "backup" disk to tape so I can store the previous weeks backups off site. This is done before the disk based backup set is recycled. 3. Destruction of the primary system has a good chance of destroying the backup drive. Agreed, but I never said that they were on the same machine ... in most of my installations the backup disk and tape drive are in the "Backup Server" ... the "source" is elsewhere on the network. In a single machine situation both disks might be be destroyed but a connected tape drive will likely suffer the same fate. The key is to do backups and do them often. I find changing media a pain ... my strategy is based on the desire to do daily backups, but to only change removeable media weekly. Cheers, Malcolm -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
Re: user deferred?
Below is my log file from Retro 4.3 running on a B/W G3 OS 9.0.4. The client was an iMac OS 9.0.4. I assumed that it was because the user left it without quitting Word and Eudora. When the client quit out of these 2 applications 2 nights later backup proceded as planned. I had this happen once before when a different client did not quit out of Eudora. 2/22/2001 2:37 AM: User deferred GS-SROP3 2/22/2001 2:43 AM: User deferred GS-SROP3 2/22/2001 2:49 AM: User deferred GS-SROP3 2/22/2001 2:55 AM: User deferred GS-SROP3 2/22/2001 3:01 AM: User deferred GS-SROP3 2/22/2001 3:07 AM: User deferred GS-SROP3 2/22/2001 3:13 AM: User deferred GS-SROP3 2/22/2001 3:20 AM: User deferred GS-SROP3 2/22/2001 3:26 AM: User deferred GS-SROP3 2/22/2001 3:32 AM: User deferred GS-SROP3 2/22/2001 3:38 AM: User deferred GS-SROP3 2/22/2001 3:44 AM: User deferred GS-SROP3 2/22/2001 3:50 AM: User deferred GS-SROP3 2/22/2001 3:56 AM: User deferred GS-SROP3 2/22/2001 4:03 AM: User deferred GS-SROP3 2/22/2001 4:09 AM: User deferred GS-SROP3 2/22/2001 4:15 AM: User deferred GS-SROP3 2/22/2001 4:21 AM: User deferred GS-SROP3 2/22/2001 4:27 AM: User deferred GS-SROP3 2/22/2001 4:33 AM: User deferred GS-SROP3 2/22/2001 4:39 AM: User deferred GS-SROP3 2/22/2001 4:46 AM: User deferred GS-SROP3 2/22/2001 4:52 AM: User deferred GS-SROP3 2/22/2001 4:58 AM: User deferred GS-SROP3 2/22/2001 5:04 AM: User deferred GS-SROP3 2/22/2001 5:10 AM: User deferred GS-SROP3 2/22/2001 5:16 AM: User deferred GS-SROP3 2/22/2001 5:22 AM: User deferred GS-SROP3 2/22/2001 5:29 AM: User deferred GS-SROP3 2/22/2001 5:35 AM: User deferred GS-SROP3 2/22/2001 5:41 AM: User deferred GS-SROP3 2/22/2001 5:47 AM: User deferred GS-SROP3 2/22/2001 5:53 AM: User deferred GS-SROP3 2/22/2001 5:59 AM: User deferred GS-SROP3 2/22/2001 6:05 AM: User deferred GS-SROP3 2/22/2001 6:12 AM: User deferred GS-SROP3 2/22/2001 6:18 AM: User deferred GS-SROP3 2/22/2001 6:24 AM: User deferred GS-SROP3 2/22/2001 6:30 AM: User deferred GS-SROP3 2/22/2001 6:36 AM: User deferred GS-SROP3 2/22/2001 6:42 AM: User deferred GS-SROP3 2/22/2001 6:48 AM: User deferred GS-SROP3 -- * * * * * * * * * * * THE OHIO STATE UNIVERSITY * * * * * * * * * * * Graduate School Richard (Dick) Hassler 247 University Hall Systems Administrator/Analyst 230 N. Oval MallPhone: 614-292-9859 Columbus, OH 43210-1366FAX:614-292-3656 -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
Re: user deferred?
I had a Mac that repeated the problem every night until I went up and rebooted it. After about 4-5 days, it started again. These are all single user machines and are semi-secured when the user is not sitting in front of them. At night, all the doors are locked. This problem normally doesn't repeat itself 2 nights in a row. But I'm not sure why. Maybe they get restarted? Anyway, removing multiple users is not an option for these macs. Mark Maytum Pompanoosuc Mills Corporation -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
Re: user deferred?
Those are every 6 minutes. I too, thought it was the users not quiting Eudora because Eudora has that "Say OK to alerts after 2 minutes", but I trained my users to quit all applications every night. Below is my log file from Retro 4.3 running on a B/W G3 OS 9.0.4. The client was an iMac OS 9.0.4. I assumed that it was because the user left it without quitting Word and Eudora. When the client quit out of these 2 applications 2 nights later backup proceded as planned. I had this happen once before when a different client did not quit out of Eudora. 2/22/2001 2:37 AM: User deferred GS-SROP3 2/22/2001 2:43 AM: User deferred GS-SROP3 2/22/2001 2:49 AM: User deferred GS-SROP3 2/22/2001 2:55 AM: User deferred GS-SROP3 2/22/2001 3:01 AM: User deferred GS-SROP3 -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
Re: Transfer Rates - Dantz Help?
Can someone at Dantz answer this please? Thanks David Ross wrote: I know this has been answered here before but I can't find it in any of the messages I've saved. Is the data rate shown in the real time backup progress window the rate at which data, compressed or not, is going to the drive or is it the rate at which the data is being lifted off the source disk? Or in other words is it based on the 100mb of the source file or the maybe 20mb after software compression? -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
Re: Transfer Rates - Dantz Help?
Don't quote me on this, but I think it is the source. That is, the amount of data read from the source drive, before compression. Which would make the most sense because that is the real number that people need to look at. Matt Can someone at Dantz answer this please? Thanks David Ross wrote: I know this has been answered here before but I can't find it in any of the messages I've saved. Is the data rate shown in the real time backup progress window the rate at which data, compressed or not, is going to the drive or is it the rate at which the data is being lifted off the source disk? Or in other words is it based on the 100mb of the source file or the maybe 20mb after software compression? -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050. -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
Re: Transfer Rates - Dantz Help?
The performance is based on the raw number of MB transferred to the backup device from the source volume. BEFORE software compression? I ask since as I understand it remote clients compress before shipping to the Retrospect module that doing the writing to the device. Thanks -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
Re: Transfer Rates - Dantz Help?
Yes, these are numbers before compression. The client does not compress data before sending it across the network. Further, Retrospect has no way to know what kinds of compression you're getting if you're using hardware compression. All number reported reflect the raw data being copied from the source. Regards, Irena Solomon Dantz Technical Support 925.253.3050 Try our new Searchable Knowledgebase at: http://partners.dantz.com:591/faq/ From: David Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Transfer Rates - Dantz Help? The performance is based on the raw number of MB transferred to the backup device from the source volume. BEFORE software compression? I ask since as I understand it remote clients compress before shipping to the Retrospect module that doing the writing to the device. Thanks -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
Retrospect Driver Update 2.1 Available!
Hi all, Retrospect Driver Update 2.1 for Mac and Windows is now available for download from the Dantz website. http://www.dantz.com/index.php3?SCREEN=rdu This RDU will *only* function with Retrospect Backup 5.15 for Windows and Retrospect Backup 4.3 for Macintosh. Express, Desktop, Workgroup, and Server editions are supported. RDU 2.1 adds support for new CD-RW and tape drives from LaCie, Panasonic, QPS, Quantum, Seagate, Sony, Yamaha, and others. For Macintosh users specifically, this update also allows Retrospect to correctly recognize the Ecrix VXA AutoPAK and corrects a media spanning issue with certain TEAC CD-RW drives. Have a good weekend! Eric Ullman Dantz Development -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
Encryption protection
Hi all, On a mailing list I inhabit, the quality of Retrospect's encryption was challenged as being inadequate. The comment was that neither DES or Dantz' proprietary Vernam cipher would be secure from a serious attempt to retrieve stolen backup data. What's the scoop here? I've been running on the assumption that if I lost a tape under mysterious circumstances that the information would be unrecoverable. How does SimpleCrypt compare to DES and how hard would someone have to try to break the encryption? Todd Reed -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
Re: Encryption protection
What's the scoop here? I've been running on the assumption that if I lost a tape under mysterious circumstances that the information would be unrecoverable. Nothing is unrecoverable if you have enough time. So the real question is how long would the various choices take to crack. -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
RE: Overland Drives?
I'm SO embarrassed to have missed this, but YES I've used Retrospect under NT 4.0/SP4-6 with my OverlandData LXBD7110R for about 2 years (started w/ Dantz's Gama product). I typically run a combination of disk/tape, and it works GREAT! I even occasionally have the server auto-restart, reboot to the default partition configured for use w/ Veritas Backup Exec, autosuck our Exchange (for message-level granularity) and MS-SQL, and restart the whole thing back to Retrospect in the morning. I typically have Backup Exec and Retrospect tapes coexisting in the library w/ no problem. Simultaneously, I run another Retrospect on another NT4 server for disk-based quickies. I've also tested this entire process on W2K Server and Adv. Server, and it works great, even spanning Active Directory. Happy Mark --- This e-mail contains the thought and opinion of Mark D. Mabry and does not represent official UTHHSC policy. --- Mark Mabry, Network Analyst The University of Texas-Houston Health Science Center School of Allied Health Sciences, Dept. of Health Informatics 7000 FANNIN ST 600 HOUSTON TX 77030 Voice: 713-500-3917 FAX: 713-500-3929 Pager: 713-761-9305 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] E-mail pager: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Matt Reynolds [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 12:36 To: retro-talk Subject: Overland Drives? Anyone have an Overland LoaderXpress 10 Cartridge Library or any Overland product? I hear they have good expandability. We are thinking of purchasing one. Just want to benefit from your experiences (good or bad.) Matt Reynolds IS Department Beeline Group -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Problems?: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
snapshot times
Hi, I'm running retrospect 5.15 on a pc running win2k, scorpion drive backing up 10Gigs of data. The incrementals are taking a long time compared to the time it takes to do the actual tape operations due to the updating snapshot times.. Is there something I can do to speed up this process (short of not having a snapshot file, I find they are very handy for quick restores). thanx -jim -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
[ADMIN] READ THIS NOW!
Hey all, The mailing list will be moving to be hosted on another machine within the next week or two. I will *not* be moving the existing address list over to the new machine in order to clean out old addresses for people who are not reading the messages. This will mean that you will need to re-subscribe to the mailing list when this happens. Do not worry, I will be posting instructions and giving you fair warning on how to do this. I will also coordinate with Dantz on updating their website to reflect the new subscription information. People at Dantz, please let me know who to notify. p.s. The new list will be hosted on new software which will give us nice threaded web based archives of the messages as well as many other features (including faster list response time). thanks, -jon stevens listadmin -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
Re: tape or hard drive?
DavidRoss wrote: I like the HP DDS/DAT drives. thanks for the info on this ... Sounds like these could fit in as a part of my overall multi-faceted backup system (I think I want a USB disc, too). Now, can you tell me: Someone else informed me of the DDS-1 -2 -3 breakdowns and the different megs the tapes handled. My question: will one drive accept ALL THREE tapes, or does each tape have to be used with ts own drive? thanks, David - - ilyes -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
