Re: user deferred?

2001-02-23 Thread matt barkdull

I didn't, don't know about Gary.  Except for MS-Office, Eudora, and a 
web browser, all of these systems were fairly plain-jane.  All of the 
applications are shut down too.

Gary, are you using OS9 Multiple users?

I have a good question for Dantz that I think everyone should know, 
but I'll make a new thread for it.



On 2/22/01 8:50 PM, "matt barkdull" wrote:

  Nobody but me even close to the Mac,
  and the Mac doesn't even come up and give the dialog box asking if
  they want to defer or not.  Went back to the server after about 10
  minutes and the log said "User Deferred".

Do you have something like Okey Dokey installed on the clients?

Pam



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Re: user deferred?

2001-02-23 Thread Richard E. Hassler

Below is my log file from Retro 4.3 running on a B/W G3 OS 9.0.4. 
The client was an iMac OS 9.0.4.  I assumed that it was because the 
user left it without quitting Word and Eudora.  When the client quit 
out of these 2 applications 2 nights later backup proceded as 
planned.  I had this happen once before when a different client did 
not quit out of Eudora.

2/22/2001 2:37 AM: User deferred GS-SROP3
2/22/2001 2:43 AM: User deferred GS-SROP3
2/22/2001 2:49 AM: User deferred GS-SROP3
2/22/2001 2:55 AM: User deferred GS-SROP3
2/22/2001 3:01 AM: User deferred GS-SROP3
2/22/2001 3:07 AM: User deferred GS-SROP3
2/22/2001 3:13 AM: User deferred GS-SROP3
2/22/2001 3:20 AM: User deferred GS-SROP3
2/22/2001 3:26 AM: User deferred GS-SROP3
2/22/2001 3:32 AM: User deferred GS-SROP3
2/22/2001 3:38 AM: User deferred GS-SROP3
2/22/2001 3:44 AM: User deferred GS-SROP3
2/22/2001 3:50 AM: User deferred GS-SROP3
2/22/2001 3:56 AM: User deferred GS-SROP3
2/22/2001 4:03 AM: User deferred GS-SROP3
2/22/2001 4:09 AM: User deferred GS-SROP3
2/22/2001 4:15 AM: User deferred GS-SROP3
2/22/2001 4:21 AM: User deferred GS-SROP3
2/22/2001 4:27 AM: User deferred GS-SROP3
2/22/2001 4:33 AM: User deferred GS-SROP3
2/22/2001 4:39 AM: User deferred GS-SROP3
2/22/2001 4:46 AM: User deferred GS-SROP3
2/22/2001 4:52 AM: User deferred GS-SROP3
2/22/2001 4:58 AM: User deferred GS-SROP3
2/22/2001 5:04 AM: User deferred GS-SROP3
2/22/2001 5:10 AM: User deferred GS-SROP3
2/22/2001 5:16 AM: User deferred GS-SROP3
2/22/2001 5:22 AM: User deferred GS-SROP3
2/22/2001 5:29 AM: User deferred GS-SROP3
2/22/2001 5:35 AM: User deferred GS-SROP3
2/22/2001 5:41 AM: User deferred GS-SROP3
2/22/2001 5:47 AM: User deferred GS-SROP3
2/22/2001 5:53 AM: User deferred GS-SROP3
2/22/2001 5:59 AM: User deferred GS-SROP3
2/22/2001 6:05 AM: User deferred GS-SROP3
2/22/2001 6:12 AM: User deferred GS-SROP3
2/22/2001 6:18 AM: User deferred GS-SROP3
2/22/2001 6:24 AM: User deferred GS-SROP3
2/22/2001 6:30 AM: User deferred GS-SROP3
2/22/2001 6:36 AM: User deferred GS-SROP3
2/22/2001 6:42 AM: User deferred GS-SROP3
2/22/2001 6:48 AM: User deferred GS-SROP3
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Re: user deferred?

2001-02-23 Thread matt barkdull

I had a Mac that repeated the problem every night until I went up and 
rebooted it.  After about 4-5 days, it started again.  These are all 
single user machines and are semi-secured when the user is not 
sitting in front of them.  At night, all the doors are locked.


This problem normally doesn't repeat itself 2 nights in a row.  But I'm
not sure why.  Maybe they get restarted?  Anyway, removing multiple users
is not an option for these macs.

Mark Maytum
Pompanoosuc Mills Corporation



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Re: user deferred?

2001-02-23 Thread matt barkdull

Those are every 6 minutes.  I too, thought it was the users not 
quiting Eudora because Eudora has that "Say OK to alerts after 2 
minutes", but I trained my users to quit all applications every night.



Below is my log file from Retro 4.3 running on a B/W G3 OS 9.0.4. 
The client was an iMac OS 9.0.4.  I assumed that it was because the 
user left it without quitting Word and Eudora.  When the client quit 
out of these 2 applications 2 nights later backup proceded as 
planned.  I had this happen once before when a different client did 
not quit out of Eudora.

   2/22/2001 2:37 AM: User deferred GS-SROP3
   2/22/2001 2:43 AM: User deferred GS-SROP3
   2/22/2001 2:49 AM: User deferred GS-SROP3
   2/22/2001 2:55 AM: User deferred GS-SROP3
   2/22/2001 3:01 AM: User deferred GS-SROP3



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RE: user deferred?

2001-02-22 Thread Craig Isaacs


 I was just looking through my log file and I notice that there are a lot
 of entries for a user that say that the user was deferred every
 4 minutes yesterday from 9:48am to 4:48 pm.
 
 I have seen this before with different users. 
 
 Does anyone know why this happens? What is going on?

Sounds like the user clicked "Defer" and then didn't enter a time.




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Re: user deferred?

2001-02-22 Thread matt barkdull

I've seen this happen with MacOS 9 and Multiple users installed and running.

I removed Multiple users from all the Macs I use and it now works fine.

Perhaps Dantz has a better solution though?


I was just looking through my log file and I notice that there are a lot
of entries for a user that say that the user was deferred every
4 minutes yesterday from 9:48am to 4:48 pm.

I have seen this before with different users.

Does anyone know why this happens? What is going on?

thanks.



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RE: user deferred?

2001-02-22 Thread matt barkdull

   Does anyone know why this happens? What is going on?

Sounds like the user clicked "Defer" and then didn't enter a time.


The only problem with this theory is that the users are not at their 
desk when it happens.   Believe me, that's one troubleshooting step I 
took.  I walked up to their machine a few minutes before it was 
suppose to backup and watched.   Nobody but me even close to the Mac, 
and the Mac doesn't even come up and give the dialog box asking if 
they want to defer or not.  Went back to the server after about 10 
minutes and the log said "User Deferred".

I'm guessing that, like me, Gary probably starts his backups late at 
night when nobody is around.  My users are 8-5'ers and if they are 
here at 5:05, it's because they are warming up their cars.  ;)

Matt



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Re: User deferred messages

2001-01-18 Thread Julia Frizzell

At 11:59 AM + 1/18/01, Mark Witrylak wrote:
As I am migrating my users to the MacOS9 environment, I am observing more
and more of them missing a backup with message "User Deferred" being
reported on my log:  I have checked the user-guide and e-mailed
euro-support@Dantz, both to no avail.  Has anyone seen/overcome this
problem?  (server is 4.3 on OS8.6, clients are 4.2a/4.3)

Are you using a Backup Server environment?

I have the laptops in our office backed up using a backup server 
during the day, wherein the users can defer the time of backup. But I 
use a non-server environment at night to back up the desktop clients, 
so there is no chance of the user deferring.

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