Re: [RDD] Centos 7 & Dell Optiplex 3060 Tower

2018-12-02 Thread Rich Stivers 

Tom:

Many thanks for sharing your experiences. I've had trouble with a Lenovo 
as well. Which models of the new personal

Dell desktops did you not like?

Rich


On 12/2/2018 14:00, Tom Van Gorkom wrote:
I have used several refurb business Dell Optiplexes for Rivendell and 
other Linux systems which have lasted for years. I did not like the 
new personal Dell desktops on the lower end and I had a big fight 
loading CentOS 7 on a new Lenovo, mainly because of how the newer UEFI 
and BIOS works. The last time I messed with it the system worked much 
easier, but of course I knew to use legacy settings in the BIOS. I'm 
no expert... FWIW.


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On Sun, Dec 2, 2018 at 2:40 PM Rich Stivers > wrote:


Fred:

Thanks for this information. I bought a couple of Windows PC's in
this time frame and was fortunate to have missed this problem.

Rich


On 12/2/2018 06:40, Fred Gleason wrote:

On Dec 2, 2018, at 04:55, Rich Stivers mailto:r...@stivers-bros.com>> wrote:


Has anyone had any positive or negative experiences with
installing Centos 7 on an Optiplex 3060 Tower? Seems like I
remember someone mentioning Dell motherboard capacitors failing.


That was much more an industry-wide problem, (allegedly due to
problems with certain passive component suppliers in eastern
Asia), which reached its peak in the mid/late-2000s and has been
in steady decline ever since. I have no specific experience with
the Dell Optiplex line, but I would not expect it to have any
particular problems with failed capacitors relative to any other
reputable brand.

You can read more about the ‘capacitor plague’ of the early 21st
century at:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitor_plague

Cheers!


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Re: [RDD] Centos 7 & Dell Optiplex 3060 Tower

2018-12-02 Thread Tom Van Gorkom 
I have used several refurb business Dell Optiplexes for Rivendell and other
Linux systems which have lasted for years. I did not like the new personal
Dell desktops on the lower end and I had a big fight loading CentOS 7 on a
new Lenovo, mainly because of how the newer UEFI and BIOS works. The last
time I messed with it the system worked much easier, but of course I knew
to use legacy settings in the BIOS. I'm no expert... FWIW.

Tom Van Gorkom
Radio Esperanza Engineering, KRIO AM/FM, KOIR FM
Office: 956-380-8150
Cell: 865-803-7427

Rio Grande Bible Institute
4300 S US Hwy 281
Edinburg, TX 78539


On Sun, Dec 2, 2018 at 2:40 PM Rich Stivers  wrote:

> Fred:
>
> Thanks for this information. I bought a couple of Windows PC's in this
> time frame and was fortunate to have missed this problem.
>
> Rich
>
>
> On 12/2/2018 06:40, Fred Gleason wrote:
>
> On Dec 2, 2018, at 04:55, Rich Stivers  wrote:
>
> Has anyone had any positive or negative experiences with installing Centos
> 7 on an Optiplex 3060 Tower? Seems like I
> remember someone mentioning Dell motherboard capacitors failing.
>
>
> That was much more an industry-wide problem, (allegedly due to problems
> with certain passive component suppliers in eastern Asia), which reached
> its peak in the mid/late-2000s and has been in steady decline ever since. I
> have no specific experience with the Dell Optiplex line, but I would not
> expect it to have any particular problems with failed capacitors relative
> to any other reputable brand.
>
> You can read more about the ‘capacitor plague’ of the early 21st century
> at:
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitor_plague
>
> Cheers!
>
>
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Re: [RDD] Centos 7 & Dell Optiplex 3060 Tower

2018-12-02 Thread Rich Stivers 

Fred:

Thanks for this information. I bought a couple of Windows PC's in this 
time frame and was fortunate to have missed this problem.


Rich


On 12/2/2018 06:40, Fred Gleason wrote:
On Dec 2, 2018, at 04:55, Rich Stivers > wrote:


Has anyone had any positive or negative experiences with installing 
Centos 7 on an Optiplex 3060 Tower? Seems like I

remember someone mentioning Dell motherboard capacitors failing.


That was much more an industry-wide problem, (allegedly due to 
problems with certain passive component suppliers in eastern Asia), 
which reached its peak in the mid/late-2000s and has been in steady 
decline ever since. I have no specific experience with the Dell 
Optiplex line, but I would not expect it to have any particular 
problems with failed capacitors relative to any other reputable brand.


You can read more about the ‘capacitor plague’ of the early 21st 
century at:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitor_plague

Cheers!


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Re: [RDD] Centos 7 & Dell Optiplex 3060 Tower

2018-12-02 Thread Rich Stivers 

Al:

Thanks for the response. I'm glad the bad cap issue is long gone. I went 
to the Centos website and they say

the UEFI issues have been resolved for Centos 7.

Rich


On 12/2/2018 04:58, Al Peterson wrote:
The Dell capacitor issue was resolved a good number of years ago. Lots 
of mobos suffered from bad caps, not just Dell.

If anything, UEFI may be a bigger annoyance.

On Sun, Dec 2, 2018, 4:55 AM Rich Stivers  wrote:


I had asked earlier this year about getting a new PC to run Centos
6. Now I'm looking to buy new PC's to run Centos 7.
Station Management doesn't want me to buy refurbished PC's so I'm
considering buying new Dell Optiplex 3060 Towers.

Has anyone had any positive or negative experiences with
installing Centos 7 on an Optiplex 3060 Tower? Seems like I
remember someone mentioning Dell motherboard capacitors failing.

Rich Stivers
KKUP-FM 91.5
Cupertino/San Jose CA

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Re: [RDD] Centos 7 & Dell Optiplex 3060 Tower

2018-12-02 Thread Rich Stivers 

Cliff:

Many Thanks for the response. This is good news for me!

Rich


On 12/2/2018 07:15, Cliff Osbourne wrote:


My personal experience with Optiplex machines has been good. I have 
always found them to be reliable workhorses and have had no problems 
with them running both Windows and various Linux systems. In the case 
of Quasar we are currently running two that have behaved faultlessly 
since we launched in 2014. Both are currently running CentOS-7/Paravel 
installations with no issues. Assuming current models are built to the 
same standard as the 'refurbs' I've have experience of I would expect 
you would have any problems, Rich.



On 02/12/2018 14:40, Fred Gleason wrote:
On Dec 2, 2018, at 04:55, Rich Stivers > wrote:


Has anyone had any positive or negative experiences with installing 
Centos 7 on an Optiplex 3060 Tower? Seems like I

remember someone mentioning Dell motherboard capacitors failing.


That was much more an industry-wide problem, (allegedly due to 
problems with certain passive component suppliers in eastern Asia), 
which reached its peak in the mid/late-2000s and has been in steady 
decline ever since. I have no specific experience with the Dell 
Optiplex line, but I would not expect it to have any particular 
problems with failed capacitors relative to any other reputable brand.


You can read more about the ‘capacitor plague’ of the early 21st 
century at:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitor_plague

Cheers!


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Re: [RDD] Centos 7 & Dell Optiplex 3060 Tower

2018-12-02 Thread Cliff Osbourne 
Pardon my typing The last line should have said "I wouldn't expect 
you to have any problems.




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Re: [RDD] Centos 7 & Dell Optiplex 3060 Tower

2018-12-02 Thread Cliff Osbourne 
My personal experience with Optiplex machines has been good. I have 
always found them to be reliable workhorses and have had no problems 
with them running both Windows and various Linux systems. In the case of 
Quasar we are currently running two that have behaved faultlessly since 
we launched in 2014. Both are currently running CentOS-7/Paravel 
installations with no issues. Assuming current models are built to the 
same standard as the 'refurbs' I've have experience of I would expect 
you would have any problems, Rich.



On 02/12/2018 14:40, Fred Gleason wrote:
On Dec 2, 2018, at 04:55, Rich Stivers > wrote:


Has anyone had any positive or negative experiences with installing 
Centos 7 on an Optiplex 3060 Tower? Seems like I

remember someone mentioning Dell motherboard capacitors failing.


That was much more an industry-wide problem, (allegedly due to 
problems with certain passive component suppliers in eastern Asia), 
which reached its peak in the mid/late-2000s and has been in steady 
decline ever since. I have no specific experience with the Dell 
Optiplex line, but I would not expect it to have any particular 
problems with failed capacitors relative to any other reputable brand.


You can read more about the ‘capacitor plague’ of the early 21st 
century at:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitor_plague

Cheers!


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Re: [RDD] Centos 7 & Dell Optiplex 3060 Tower

2018-12-02 Thread Fred Gleason 
On Dec 2, 2018, at 04:55, Rich Stivers  wrote:

> Has anyone had any positive or negative experiences with installing Centos 7 
> on an Optiplex 3060 Tower? Seems like I
> remember someone mentioning Dell motherboard capacitors failing.

That was much more an industry-wide problem, (allegedly due to problems with 
certain passive component suppliers in eastern Asia), which reached its peak in 
the mid/late-2000s and has been in steady decline ever since. I have no 
specific experience with the Dell Optiplex line, but I would not expect it to 
have any particular problems with failed capacitors relative to any other 
reputable brand.

You can read more about the ‘capacitor plague’ of the early 21st century at:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitor_plague 


Cheers!


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[RDD] Centos 7 & Dell Optiplex 3060 Tower

2018-12-02 Thread Rich Stivers 
I had asked earlier this year about getting a new PC to run Centos 6. 
Now I'm looking to buy new PC's to run Centos 7.
Station Management doesn't want me to buy refurbished PC's so I'm 
considering buying new Dell Optiplex 3060 Towers.


Has anyone had any positive or negative experiences with installing 
Centos 7 on an Optiplex 3060 Tower? Seems like I

remember someone mentioning Dell motherboard capacitors failing.

Rich Stivers
KKUP-FM 91.5
Cupertino/San Jose CA

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