On Fri, 03 Mar 2006 00:19:40 -0500, John Siracusa wrote:
Hi John
Spooky.
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On 3/3/06 12:11 AM, Ron Savage wrote:
> But how come it doesn't ask me to authenticate when I upload a changed file?
My guess is that it somehow found your ssh keys or you SF.net login name in
a browser cookie or some crazy thing. Also, after I authenticate using even
the regular svn command-line
On Wed, 1 Mar 2006 22:28:42 -0500, Rob Kinyon wrote:
Hi Rob
> If you're on Win32, use TortoiseSVN.
Using it. Looks good.
But how come it doesn't ask me to authenticate when I upload a changed file?
Even John Siracusa gets asked if he changes to an account which is not logged in
to SVN.
I foun
On Wed, 1 Mar 2006 22:28:42 -0500, Rob Kinyon wrote:
Hi Rob
>> I've installed a client - subcommander - but haven't used it yet.
>>
> If you're on Win32, use TortoiseSVN.
I very nearly installed that instead, since I'd read good things about it. I'll
do that now.
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On 3/1/06, Ron Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've installed a client - subcommander - but haven't used it yet.
If you're on Win32, use TortoiseSVN.
Rob
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On Wed, 01 Mar 2006 19:21:00 -0500, John Siracusa wrote:
Hi John
> Great :) Are you set up with SVN yet?
I've installed a client - subcommander - but haven't used it yet.
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On 3/1/06 6:34 PM, Ron Savage wrote:
> I've gained 'create view' privilege since I sent you that code, and have
> activated the commented-out references to views in list-tables.t, and those
> aspects of the tests now pass also.
Great :) Are you set up with SVN yet?
-John
On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 19:47:33 -0500, John Siracusa wrote:
Hi John
I've gained 'create view' privilege since I sent you that code, and have
activated the commented-out references to views in list-tables.t, and those
aspects of the tests now pass also.
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On 2/23/06 6:23 PM, Ron Savage wrote:
> o Rose::DB::Pg calls DateTime::Infinite::Past etc, so shouldn't it 'use'
> DateTime?
Yeah, it should. (Well, DateTime::Infinite actually.) It gets away with
not calling it because it uses Rose::DB which uses Rose::DateTime::Util
which uses DateTime::Infini
Hi Folks
OK. I've set up a few files so Oracle is a supported vendor. I copied pg.t to
oracle.t and cut out almost everything :-) so just 30 tests (all those
remaining) pass.
Now:
o Rose::DB::Pg calls DateTime::Infinite::Past etc, so shouldn't it 'use'
DateTime?
o In t/test-lib.pl some connexio
On 1/30/06 12:27 AM, Ron Savage wrote:
> Looking at Rose::DB::Pg, I see we'll need a DateTime::Format::Oracle.
Technically, you don't "need" such a thing. It just so happens that it was
convenient to use an existing DateTime parser/formatter module for Pg. If
no such thing exists for Oracle, the
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 09:02:55 +1100, Ron Savage wrote:
Hi
> Yeah. It's 9 am here now so I'll ask at work today if I can have a
> database (aka ) set up to play with. But
> I'd be the only one who could access it.
OK. I have a tablespace just for this project.
Looking at Rose::DB::Pg, I see we'll
Rob Kinyon wrote:
I would recommend, on the first pass at least, to not worry about BEFORE
INSERT triggers. Just get:
select .nextval from dual;
working before the insert statement, where SEQUENCE_NAME is specified by
the user.
Yeah, that sounds the simplest. But if the trigger-based
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 15:14:58 -0500, Rob Kinyon wrote:
Hi Rob
>> (BTW, anyone know why dual is named dual?)
>>
> No clue. :-)
Me neither, but at a guess I'd say the language designers were uncomfortable
calling it manifold, which is it's behaviour given that it impersonates many
(manifold) unreal
On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 18:58:01 -0500, Rob Kinyon wrote:
Hi Rob
Our sys admin only works Mondays, Tuesdays and Thursdays, so yesterday (Wed) I
could not talk to her, and today is a national holiday, so it'll be next Monday
before I discuss a new tablespace.
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On 1/25/06, John Siracusa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 1/25/06, Todd Hepler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > John Siracusa wrote:
> >> Either way, after the insert, I'll need a way to get the value that was
> >> used--and do so in a concurrency-safe way. What's The Oracle Way to do
> >> that?
>
On 1/25/06, Todd Hepler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> John Siracusa wrote:
>> Either way, after the insert, I'll need a way to get the value that was
>> used--and do so in a concurrency-safe way. What's The Oracle Way to do that?
>
> In my experience, it's best way is to select the nextval from the
On 1/25/06, Todd Hepler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> DBI needs a constraint_info() or unique_info() or somesuch, IMHO.
Yeah, another API for DBD authors not to implement.
(not that I'm bitter... ;)
-John
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John Siracusa wrote:
Either way, after the insert, I'll need a way to get the value that
was used--and do so in a concurrency-safe way. What's The Oracle Way
to do that?
In my experience, it's best way is to select the nextval from the
sequence before doing the insert, and then providing tha
John Siracusa wrote:
4) The information schema is going to make you drool
Does DBD::Oracle support all of DBI's various *_info() methods
correctly? That alone would make auto-init 90% done, since the
default Auto.pm implementation just uses DBI's native introspection.
All we'd have to add i
If absolutely necessary, I can set one up on my home server, but I
technically don't have a server-like IP access (even though I have
DynDNS), so I really don't want a lot of access on it.
Rob
On 1/24/06, Ron Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 15:49:29 -0500, Rob Kinyon wrote
On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 15:49:29 -0500, Rob Kinyon wrote:
Hi Rob
Yeah. It's 9 am here now so I'll ask at work today if I can have a database (aka
) set up to play with. But I'd be the only one who could
access it.
>> Does DBD::Oracle support all of DBI's various *_info() methods correctly?
This see
On 1/24/06, John Siracusa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 1/24/06, Rob Kinyon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Are we going to do this? If we are, I'll bug some friends of mine.
>
> That probably depends on whether or not someone in "we" has an Oracle
> server to play with. I'm game if/when I get ac
On 1/24/06, Rob Kinyon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Are we going to do this? If we are, I'll bug some friends of mine.
That probably depends on whether or not someone in "we" has an Oracle
server to play with. I'm game if/when I get access to an Oracle
database. I hear there's a "personal server
At this point, we're beyond my 2yr+ old memory of how to do something
I never actually implemented in production. :-)
Are we going to do this? If we are, I'll bug some friends of mine.
Rob
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On 1/24/06, Rob Kinyon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Heh. It's a little more complicated than that. You have to create a
> BEFORE INSERT trigger to read the next value from the sequence and set
> the ID to it.
Well, whatever gymnastics the db owner has to go through to set up the
tables in the firs
On 1/24/06, John Siracusa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 1/24/06, Rob Kinyon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > "Most popular" is a difficult term. DBD::Oracle supports back to
> > Oracle 7, after a fashion. 9.2 has been out for about 5-6 years and in
> > my consulting career, I've never encountered a
On 1/24/06, Rob Kinyon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Most popular" is a difficult term. DBD::Oracle supports back to
> Oracle 7, after a fashion. 9.2 has been out for about 5-6 years and in
> my consulting career, I've never encountered anything before 9.2
> (except in extreme legacy cases where I
On 1/24/06, John Siracusa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 1/24/06, Rob Kinyon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I may be able to help with this. Luckily, if you stick with Oracle
> > 9.2+, it can use the standard JOIN syntax.
>
> Hm, is that reasonable? What is the most popular version of Oracle thes
On 1/24/06, Sean Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm not an Oracle user and, like John, do not have access to it, but is
> there precedent for someone who does have access to open a database for John
> et al. for development purposes? This is probably a dumb idea and is laden
> with security an
On 1/24/06 10:39 AM, "John Siracusa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Anyway, like I said, baby steps. Start by implementing the Rose::DB
> public API in a new Rose::DB::Oracle module. While that's happening,
> it'd be great iif someone could post the various Oracle-isms discussed
> above to th
On 1/24/06, Rob Kinyon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I may be able to help with this. Luckily, if you stick with Oracle
> 9.2+, it can use the standard JOIN syntax.
Hm, is that reasonable? What is the most popular version of Oracle these days?
> Oracle doesn't have a LIMIT syntax, though it can b
On 1/24/06, John Siracusa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 1/24/06 2:29 AM, Ron Savage wrote:
> > What is the state?
> > Is there any unshipped Oracle code available to be worked on?
> > Is it a matter of converting *::Pg.pm, say, to *::Oracle.pm, for starters?
> >
> > At the moment I have a great d
On 1/24/06 2:29 AM, Ron Savage wrote:
> What is the state?
> Is there any unshipped Oracle code available to be worked on?
> Is it a matter of converting *::Pg.pm, say, to *::Oracle.pm, for starters?
>
> At the moment I have a great deal of time available to do the typing, if the
> answer to the p
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