Re: [Rosegarden-user] Ugly notation formatting

2016-04-08 Thread david
That is a great analogy. I would also say that music notation is fundamentally visual, not audio or sequential. Musicians reading a score aren't necessarily going "note by note" anymore than the typical person reading text reads "letter by letter". I guess sequencers aren't quite up to the

Re: [Rosegarden-user] Ugly notation formatting

2016-04-08 Thread D. Michael McIntyre
On 04/08/2016 12:29 PM, Silas Mortimer wrote: > Not that I think we should abandon the old way by any means, but maybe > there ought to be a notation 2.0, completely reworked to be an easy > learning curve for those who already know the old notation, but make > more sense to coding. I wonder if

Re: [Rosegarden-user] Ugly notation formatting

2016-04-08 Thread Silas Mortimer
That makes a lot of sense. On Fri, Apr 8, 2016 at 9:50 AM, Lorenzo Sutton wrote: > As I already said this is really a bit of a conundrum > I think a good analogy would be imagine writing in a word processor > (e.g. Writer) or typesetting system (e.g. Latex) VS.

Re: [Rosegarden-user] Ugly notation formatting

2016-04-08 Thread Silas Mortimer
I can definitely believe it, I just didn't see it before you explained it. It makes sense. Not that I think we should abandon the old way by any means, but maybe there ought to be a notation 2.0, completely reworked to be an easy learning curve for those who already know the old notation, but

Re: [Rosegarden-user] Ugly notation formatting

2016-04-08 Thread D. Michael McIntyre
On 04/07/2016 07:04 PM, Silas Mortimer wrote: > If I might ask, because I've been wondering about this, what makes > doing notation so difficult? I think the root of it is because notation is a very analog, infinitely-variable kind of thing that is difficult to represent and manipulate in an

Re: [Rosegarden-user] Ugly notation formatting

2016-04-08 Thread D. Michael McIntyre
On 04/07/2016 07:00 PM, Silas Mortimer wrote: > I don't mind sending it here. Got it, and took a quick look. I need to take a more detailed look to figure out what's going on here, and I will have to come back to this tomorrow. Everything is fixable though. No worries. -- D. Michael

Re: [Rosegarden-user] Ugly notation formatting

2016-04-08 Thread Martin Tarenskeen
>>> My understanding of notation is that a whole note is a whole measure. Only in 4/4 or 2/2 time that is. I would like to add that a whole REST can mean a whole measure, even if time is not 4/4, if the rest is placed in the middle of an otherwise empty bar! I have not tried if RG knows

Re: [Rosegarden-user] Ugly notation formatting

2016-04-08 Thread Lorenzo Sutton
On 07/04/2016 21:15, Silas Mortimer wrote: > I should start doing that. > > Anyway, as I said before, I had to make the time signature 2/4, which > would make a whole note of four beats span two measures. I know it's > weird, but I started composing the piece on guitar and wound up having >

Re: [Rosegarden-user] Ugly notation formatting

2016-04-08 Thread Lorenzo Sutton
On 07/04/2016 17:55, D. Michael McIntyre wrote: > On 04/07/2016 10:44 AM, Silas Mortimer wrote: > >> do that and then use shortcuts in LilyPond to "clean it up" visually? >> To be specific, what I'm asking is if LilyPond has ways of easily >> fixing problems like my first example. > > The