Re: [Rosegarden-user] JACK MIDI... Why?
Personally I don't see any reason to use jack MIDI. About the only piece of software that I use that doesn't use alsa midi is Ardour, which is another reason I don't really care for it. All qtractor, lmms, seq24, reaper, and even bitwig Studio use alsa midi by default. Justin A.K.A Demonic Sweaters YouTube.com/demonicsweaters demonicsweaters.com anthillrecordings.bandcamp.com > On Mar 22, 2020, at 3:51 PM, Ted Felix wrote: > > Next question > > Why do you want/need JACK MIDI? (As with LV2 I may never get to it, but > some justification will help focus the effort if I do.) Thanks. > > Ted. > > > ___ > Rosegarden-user mailing list > Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] LV2... Why?
Chiming in as well, There's a few points I've read in this list that I wanted to respond to. 1. nobody uses rosegarden for audio - I actually have, and do, several songs have even been released on some albums of mine recorded this way. Sure, it's not the most fully featured for audio, but I've made it work. Also when using midi hardware with Rosegarden, it's great to be able to pipe the audio back into the project and record as a way to 'freeze' the track. 2. audio plugins useless for midi - I don't agree here either, because of the reasons above, and many times I will use audio reverbs, delays, ect... on midi instruments if they're available. 3. Everyone uses Ardour - I don't think so. Myself and many others don't really care for it's UI and don't even see it as one of the top 3 options in Linux. I prefer, Reaper, Qtractor, and Rosegarden. 4. Lastly, LV2 - Well personally I think LinuxVST would be a far better way to go if anything, but since VST is a Steinberg tech, maybe you guys wouldn't want to go that way. LV2, is a good second choice. I never use DSSI except occasionally Hexter. Best, Justin www.demonicsweaters.com On 3/13/20 7:26 AM, r...@hydrophones.com wrote: Hi all, Just my two cents. We use Rosegarden regularly for the creation of video, game, and museum display, soundtracks. We don't use LV2 plugins, and very seldom use any plugins at all. I, personally, would prefer if Rosegarden interfaced better with Jack/MIDI and the like as most of the synthesis we do is on other machines, often using NETJACK in one form or another. Work arounds exist, but they are cumbersome and annoying. I'm sorry that I don't contribute as much technically, and otherwise, to the project than I used to, but my company is still a heavy Rosegarden user and we can contribute significant resources if need be. Best regards, Richard A. Marschall, Ph.D. Director, Engineering Marschall Acoustics Instruments P/L r...@hydrophones.com On 3/11/20 11:43 PM, Ted Felix wrote:  Just wondering why folks want LV2 support. Not that I'll ever get to it, but some justification will help focus the effort. Thanks. I've been ignoring the issue for quite a few years, but I spent some time today looking at what lv2 is, what plugins are out there, what supports them, etc., and I have to say I wouldn't mind trying some of those out. One of the biggest problems I can imagine is that lv2 can be the equivalent of either LADSPA or DSSI, or maybe even both in one (I didn't dive that deeply). Chris Cannam was one of the original creators of DSSI, and Rosegarden was one of the original hosts. There's a pretty clear divide between "audio plugin" and "synth plugin" in Rosegarden, although under the hood they do have significant redundancy, if not actual overlap (and I'm not sure which, as I haven't been in that code in eons). That might make things tricky. Finally, there's the real question of who would use it. Synth plugins are arguably useful to Rosegarden users, but audio plugins are pretty irrelevant except in connection with synth plugins. Nobody uses the audio features. I would have tried if I had been able to get my audio rack to work with Linux, but I would have ended up having to use something more robust myself. Rosegarden is missing a lot of functionality, and the Linux audio community is totally dominated by Ardour, so even if we built it, nobody would use it. If we were doing Rosegarden from scratch, there would just be no point in including audio features at all. So I come down as kind of meh on the whole thing. It would be neat to play with if it doesn't require massive investment of effort on your part, but the reality is you're probably going to see really limited returns from the community. If you build it, they might come, or they might just yawn. -- D. Michael McIntyre ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Problems getting started with Rosegarden: don't see any MIDI device
Just thought I’d chime in here with a tutorial on getting stared with Rosegarden I made a while ago, https://youtu.be/FVhAneOg0sc. Maybe you’ll find it helpful. Justin A.K.A Demonic Sweaters YouTube.com/demonicsweaters demonicsweaters.com anthillrecordings.bandcamp.com > On Jan 7, 2020, at 5:54 PM, Matthias Wimmer via Rosegarden-user > wrote: > > Thanks for your thoughts. That makes me think I'm not completely of track. > > I'll try the compilation from source. If there is nothing extremely special > this shouldn't be a problem, as I'm doing Linux software development at > daytime. > > The most interesting part is that NixOS doesn't use the LFS and has all > libraries (and binaries) on paths that contain a hash on all compilation > inputs in the path name. > > Thanks again > Matthias > > > Am 7. Januar 2020 23:18:59 MEZ schrieb "D. Michael McIntyre" > : >> >> On 1/7/20 4:26 PM, Matthias Wimmer via Rosegarden-user wrote: >> >>> the details are: "No sound driver available: Application compiled >>> without sound support?" >> >> Everything up to that point looks okay, so my first guess is broken >> package. I'd try compiling from source. I don't have time to walk you >> through that at the moment. > > -- > Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my > brevity.___ > Rosegarden-user mailing list > Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden and qsynth
Just chiming in here, I never use zyn or yoshimi because of this. Both of them are total cpu hogs. Justin A.K.A Demonic Sweaters YouTube.com/demonicsweaters demonicsweaters.com anthillrecordings.bandcamp.com > On Nov 22, 2019, at 4:14 PM, Ted Felix wrote: > > On 11/20/19 10:56 AM, Will Godfrey wrote: >> There was one thing that grabbed my attention. That was when you say Zyn >> uses a >> lot of CPU when idling. >> I very much doubt that. > > I'm looking right at it. I see an idling fluidsynth using 1%, jackd (which > is never idling) using 2%, and an idling zynaddsubfx (3.0.3) using 35% cpu. > > Yoshimi 1.5.6 uses 20% cpu when idling. > > Ted. > > > ___ > Rosegarden-user mailing list > Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Percussion Clef
I see. Yeah I hear what you are saying. But how about a percussion clef? On Tue, Sep 3, 2019, 3:47 AM Lorenzo Sutton wrote: > Hi, > > On 03/09/19 00:09, Demonic Sweaters wrote: > > > > Hey all, > > > > I would love if rosegarden were friendlier to drum notation. For example > > I would love to have a percussion clef and the ability to create drum > > notation with separate voicing for hands and feet. Anyone else need this? > > Do take into account that, even with very advanced notation support, > Rosegarden is still a sequencer. If your aim is to 'print' (i.e. > typeset) music the best would be to use specialised software either with > GUI (e.g. MuseScore) or from the command line (e.g. LilyPond). Actually > Rosegarden can be a very nice 'frontend' for Lilypond. > > That said 'layers' exist in the notation editor, which allow you to see > separate segments on the same staff, but I have always found them to be > non-optimal. > > As suggested the best approach might be to use separate segments (or > tracks) for the voices you are trying to differentiate (e.g. foot, > hand). Do consider that you can visualise multiple segments in the same > notation view. > > Hope this helps. > Lorenzo. > > > > > Justin AKA Demonic Sweaters demonicsweaters.com > youtube.com/demonicsweaters > > > > > > ___ > > Rosegarden-user mailing list > > Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to > unsubscribe > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user > > > > > > ___ > Rosegarden-user mailing list > Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user > ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Percussion Clef
Well I'm a moron, haha. Somehow I never saw it in there. Thank you! Justin AKA Demonic Sweaters demonicsweaters.com youtube.com/demonicsweaters On Tue, Sep 3, 2019 at 9:30 AM, D. Michael McIntyre wrote: I would love if rosegarden were friendlier to drum notation. For example I would love to have a percussion clef and the ability to create drum notation with separate voicing for hands and feet. Anyone else need this? I started on percussion notation around the time I started drumming. I didn't get far into it before I realized what a gigantic nightmare it was going to be, and I just walked away and forgot about it. It is what it is. That's why we don't have drum notation, and probably never will. Sorry man, I'm human, and I have a day job. -- D. Michael McIntyre ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Percussion Clef
I realized my reply didn't make it to the group, here's a copy. Justin AKA Demonc Sweaters youtube.com/demonicsweaters demonicsweaters.com On Mon, Sep 2, 2019 at 7:32 PM, Demonic Sweaters wrote: I suppose you could have them on two tracks, but that wouldn't really display it correctly. Very few softwares actually display drum notation correctly. Musescore is one of the few that do. You can create score where the hands are beamed, but the kick is on a separate voice, but on the same staff. I've attached a pic example. In this example the hi hat is the x eighth notes and the snare is on the C position, with the kick drum on the F. Justin AKA Demonic Sweaters demonicsweaters.com youtube.com/demonicsweaters On Mon, Sep 2, 2019 at 7:16 PM, David W. Jones wrote: On September 2, 2019 12:09:12 PM HST, Demonic Sweaters wrote: Hey all, I would love if rosegarden were friendlier to drum notation. For example I would love to have a percussion clef and the ability to create drum notation with separate voicing for hands and feet. Anyone else need this? Sounds interesting. I'd think that using 2 drum tracks would be all that's needed to separate hands and feet, yes? --- David W. Jones gn...@hawaii.rr.com authenticity, honesty, community http://dancingtreefrog.com Sent from my Android device with F/LOSS K-9 Mail. ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
[Rosegarden-user] Percussion Clef
Hey all, I would love if rosegarden were friendlier to drum notation. For example I would love to have a percussion clef and the ability to create drum notation with separate voicing for hands and feet. Anyone else need this? Justin AKA Demonic Sweaters demonicsweaters.com youtube.com/demonicsweaters ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
