Rick DeNatale wrote:
I've done something similar, but I might have handled the steps implementation a bit differently
in that I'm not sure my approach would be called stateless.
For example say I had (in a very abstract form)
Given 'Rick' has admin privileges
Then 'Rick' can do
On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 11:31 PM, Jim Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
aslak hellesoy wrote:
There is persistent state (database) and object state (the object that
serves as a context for a scenario).
I'm not saying that state in and of itself is bad. However, *coupling*
is bad - for
On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 8:42 AM, aslak hellesoy [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 2:21 PM, Dan North [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Jim.
I guess I'm not a purist then - that looks fine to me, and it's probably
something I would consider doing too.
The debate seems to be
Rick DeNatale wrote:
I've done something similar, but I might have handled the steps
implementation a bit differently in that I'm not sure my approach would
be called stateless.
For example say I had (in a very abstract form)
Given 'Rick' has admin privileges
Then 'Rick' can do
of course, there's one 'global' shared between steps that we cant
live without: response
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Hi Jim.
I guess I'm not a purist then - that looks fine to me, and it's probably
something I would consider doing too.
The thing to bear in mind is that there is magic going on when you run
steps. Each step in a scenario is run in the context of the same object
instance (which you don't get to
On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 2:21 PM, Dan North [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Jim.
I guess I'm not a purist then - that looks fine to me, and it's probably
something I would consider doing too.
The thing to bear in mind is that there is magic going on when you run
steps. Each step in a scenario is
Dan North wrote:
Hi Jim.
I guess I'm not a purist then - that looks fine to me, and it's probably
something I would consider doing too.
I'd never call you a purist Dan ;) But I do feel less dirty now, although after
reading Aslaks post
I wonder what exactly is meant by stateless steps? It
On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 8:28 PM, Jim Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dan North wrote:
Hi Jim.
I guess I'm not a purist then - that looks fine to me, and it's probably
something I would consider doing too.
I'd never call you a purist Dan ;) But I do feel less dirty now, although
after
aslak hellesoy wrote:
The debate seems to be whether step definitions should be stateful or not.
In practice this is achieved by setting one or more @variables in a
step and reusing them in a different step - all within a scenario.
I think that is the debate, but I'd like to point out that
On 9 Sep 2008, at 19:52, Jim Morris wrote:
aslak hellesoy wrote:
The debate seems to be whether step definitions should be stateful
or not.
In practice this is achieved by setting one or more @variables in a
step and reusing them in a different step - all within a scenario.
I think that
On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 8:52 PM, Jim Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
aslak hellesoy wrote:
The debate seems to be whether step definitions should be stateful or not.
In practice this is achieved by setting one or more @variables in a
step and reusing them in a different step - all within a
Thanks for the hints, but I think I did point out I am not using Rails, I write Integration tests,
that talk directly to the web application via HTTP running the full stack.
So Active record is not available neither are transactions for the database.
Sorry for the confusion.
If I were using
On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 3:52 PM, Matt Wynne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 9 Sep 2008, at 19:52, Jim Morris wrote:
aslak hellesoy wrote:
The debate seems to be whether step definitions should be stateful or
not.
In practice this is achieved by setting one or more @variables in a
step and
Sam Stokes wrote:
It seems to me that with
Given an existing post 'lol internet' # creates a post with that title
Then the page should include 'lol internet' # assumes a post with that
title
the assumptions are in line with what you'd naturally understand from
the English, whereas
Given
On 10.9.2008, at 0.29, Zach Dennis wrote:
I don't think this works as you may expect since My
SQL and PostgreSQL don't support nested transactions, which is what
would happen if your test environment wrapped stories/scenarios in
transactions and your application utilized transactions.
I've
On Sep 7, 2008, at 7:58 PM, Sam Stokes wrote:
What approaches do people use to achieve this?
Perhaps I'm bucking what others have advised against, so take it for
what it's worth.
I make some limited use of global (instance) variables that
correspond to english language pronouns. I have
Jonathan Linowes wrote:
I make some limited use of global (instance) variables that
correspond to english language pronouns. I have things like
@current_user (corresponds to I), @current_project (corresponds to
the project), etc. I am careful to be consistent. There's only a
handful of these,
Sam Stokes wrote:
Jonathan Linowes wrote:
I make some limited use of global (instance) variables that
correspond to english language pronouns. I have things like
@current_user (corresponds to I), @current_project (corresponds to
the project), etc. I am careful to be consistent. There's only a
Zach Dennis wrote:
This thread may help give you some insight...
http://www.mail-archive.com/rspec-users@rubyforge.org/msg05382.html
Thanks for pointing me there. The first insight it's given me is that
I'm actually asking two different (though related) questions:
1) What's the best way to
Hi all,
I'm just getting into RSpec stories and liking them (especially with
webrat), but I'm finding it tricky to write steps that are
self-contained and reusable, particularly where features intersect.
What approaches do people use to achieve this?
(Maybe a better question is, do people
This thread may help give you some insight...
http://www.mail-archive.com/rspec-users@rubyforge.org/msg05382.html
Zach
On Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 7:58 PM, Sam Stokes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi all,
I'm just getting into RSpec stories and liking them (especially with
webrat), but I'm finding it
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