[rt-users] character problem during forwarding of a ticket.

2009-04-02 Thread Murat TAS
Hi there,
While replying and doing CC or BCC of a ticket there are not any
character encoding problems.On the other hand, while forwarding a message
Turkish character problem occurs..

I have added the mail header part of both occurences (i.e mail header of a
CC ticket and forwarded ticket)

How can I solve this problem? Please help me..

Thank you..

Murat



   
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Re: [rt-users] Install RT 1.0.7

2009-04-02 Thread Markus Hummel
Hi,

Many thanks for your fast answer.
At the moment we are using a RT 1.0.7 installation on an old machine. The OS 
and the OS configuration are a nightmare.
Because hardware and RT are very old, our admin decided to move to a new 
system. The idea: Install a new ticket request system (such as RT or OTRS) on a 
VMware machine. To keep all the old tickets, we would like to install RT 1 
parallel to the new system on the same machine read only.
Actually this should not be a great problem. Unfortunately, the Perl module 
causes problems, however.

So far everything correct?
If this should not work so, we would install a second Debian parallel if 
necessary as suggested. Somebody still sees an alternative to the second 
machine?

Best regards,
Markus Hummel


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On Wed  1.Apr'09 at 16:37:23 +0200, Markus Hummel wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I have a small problem and hope you can help me.
 I try to install RT 1.0.7 on a current distribution - I know, crazy
 request ;)

Perhaps you could tell us what you're actually trying to accomplish by
installing RT 1.0. 

In general, I'd recommend finding a debian distribution from around then
and running it in vmware, if you really need to run RT 1.0.
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[rt-users] What software is recommended for high-loaded RT3.8-latest?

2009-04-02 Thread Agnislav Onufrijchuk
Hi all.

I'm going to migrate our rt installation to latest version. We'll install clean
RT on new hardware and them migrate DB and custom modifications.

Some points about our rt installation:
- db size - more than 30G;
- mostly 10 tickets;
- 4000 transactions per day.

Can you please advice software for serving such high-loaded system:
- FreeBSD or Linux?
- File system: Ext3/XFS/JFS/...?
- apache 2.2 or nginx?
- MySQL or Postgresql?

Any advice will be appreciated.

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Re: [rt-users] What software is recommended for high-loaded RT3.8-latest?

2009-04-02 Thread Mike Peachey
Thu 02 Apr 2009 09:57:57 AM GMT
Agnislav Onufrijchuk wrote:
 Hi all.
 
 I'm going to migrate our rt installation to latest version. We'll install 
 clean
 RT on new hardware and them migrate DB and custom modifications.
 
 Some points about our rt installation:
 - db size - more than 30G;
 - mostly 10 tickets;
 - 4000 transactions per day.
 
 Can you please advice software for serving such high-loaded system:
 - FreeBSD or Linux?

Slackware Linux. Perfect balance of security and stability and with a
custom-generic kernel the RAM footprint is comparatively tiny and makes
for a very responsive server.

Whatever OS you choose, make sure you do a manual RT install, don't rely
on someone's pre-packaged system. Also, I recommend making sure all of
your perl modules are installed via CPAN not a packaging system to
ensure no upstream modifications and a simple upgrade path. In Slackware
both of the above are a given.

 - File system: Ext3/XFS/JFS/...?

Debatable. I would probably say Ext3 myself, but then for the level of
transactions you're talking about you are on the border where J/X/Reiser
could prove themselves useful. Wouldn't hurt to do some benchmarking.
For what it's worth, don't take recoverability into account in your
decision, just make backups. Trying to perform file-system data recovery
in that type of environment is a waste of time on any FS.

 - apache 2.2 or nginx?

Apache. No Question.

 - MySQL or Postgresql?

Debatable. I think for me it would depend on what is in use in the rest
of your architecture. If you are a fully MySQL house, as we are here,
then it makes sense to keep it all the same since you can share
primary/failover servers and your people-processes are harmonious. If
you don't really have a dependency on either then... well it's up to
you. I'm used to MySQL and having it at the core of nearly all
DB-dependant applications here has been useful, but many would argue
that for a larger system like yours PG wouyld give you better
performance. Again, a bit of benchmarking wouldn't go amiss.

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[rt-users] Is it possible to change priority direction

2009-04-02 Thread Simon Dray
Hi,

The direction of priority from 0 - 99 and consequently the escalation process 
does not fit with our model and I would like to change it so that 0 is highest 
is this possible.


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Re: [rt-users] What software is recommended for high-loaded RT3.8-latest?

2009-04-02 Thread Kenneth Marshall
Hi,

I have included my comments below. It is important to consider
your skills/strengths when making these choices. i.e. If you
have experience with one database or OS, you should consider
using them instead of trying to build expertise in a new
environment. That being said...

On Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 11:57:57AM +0300, Agnislav Onufrijchuk wrote:
 Hi all.
 
 I'm going to migrate our rt installation to latest version. We'll install 
 clean
 RT on new hardware and them migrate DB and custom modifications.
 
 Some points about our rt installation:
 - db size - more than 30G;
 - mostly 10 tickets;
 - 4000 transactions per day.
 
Are these 4000 tickets per day or 4000 updates total? 10 tickets
is not very many if you actually generate 4000 tickets per day. Do
you shred old tickets to remove them from your DB?

 Can you please advice software for serving such high-loaded system:
 - FreeBSD or Linux?
Either would be acceptable, given 4000 tickets per day = 500 per hour
for an 8 hour day = less than 10 tickets per minute is not much of a
CPU load for today's hardware if the I/O subsystem is up to the task..

 - File system: Ext3/XFS/JFS/...?
Use the supported/recommended one for your chosen OS.

 - apache 2.2 or nginx?
Apache all the way.

 - MySQL or Postgresql?
We use PostgreSQL here because the release quality does not vary
as wildly and MySQL. Check the mailing list for problems caused by
particular versions of MySQL. If you pick a tested version, it will
work well. PostgreSQL also support full text index support that make
searching ticket body content extremely fast. We also use the Slony
replication software to keep a warm spare RT system ready to go, in
case the primary system has a hardware problem. We really want to
have redundancy in our ticket system because it should be up even if
everything else is down. :)

Hope this helps.
Cheers,
Ken

 
 Any advice will be appreciated.
 
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[rt-users] What software is recommended for high-loaded RT3.8-latest?

2009-04-02 Thread Agnislav Onufrijchuk
Mike Peachey wrote:
 
 Slackware Linux. Perfect balance of security and stability and with a
 custom-generic kernel the RAM footprint is comparatively tiny and makes
 for a very responsive server.
 
I have no enough experience with Slackware. AFAIK, it's simple as BSD. Is it 
true?

 Whatever OS you choose, make sure you do a manual RT install, don't rely
 on someone's pre-packaged system. Also, I recommend making sure all of
 your perl modules are installed via CPAN not a packaging system to
 ensure no upstream modifications and a simple upgrade path.
 
Sure :)

 - File system: Ext3/XFS/JFS/...?
 
 Debatable. I would probably say Ext3 myself, but then for the level of
 transactions you're talking about you are on the border where J/X/Reiser
 could prove themselves useful. Wouldn't hurt to do some benchmarking.
 For what it's worth, don't take recoverability into account in your
 decision, just make backups. Trying to perform file-system data recovery
 in that type of environment is a waste of time on any FS.

AFAIK, they're all provide good data safety. Now we're using MySQL  InnoDB, I 
think XFS should be fast enough. But we may migrate to PostgreSQL. AFAIK it 
uses 
a number of files (I may be wrong) to serve its DB. So, there can be Reiser/JFS.

 - apache 2.2 or nginx?
 
 Apache. No Question.
 
Why? nginx supports FastCGI too and it is recommended to use on dedicated 
projects.

 - MySQL or Postgresql?
 
 Debatable. I think for me it would depend on what is in use in the rest
 of your architecture. If you are a fully MySQL house, as we are here,
 then it makes sense to keep it all the same since you can share
 primary/failover servers and your people-processes are harmonious. If
 you don't really have a dependency on either then... well it's up to
 you. I'm used to MySQL and having it at the core of nearly all
 DB-dependant applications here has been useful, but many would argue
 that for a larger system like yours PG wouyld give you better
 performance. Again, a bit of benchmarking wouldn't go amiss.
 
Thank you!

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Re: [rt-users] What software is recommended for high-loaded RT3.8-latest?

2009-04-02 Thread Mike Peachey
Thu 02 Apr 2009 14:51:06 GMT
Agnislav Onufrijchuk wrote:
 Mike Peachey wrote:
 Slackware Linux. Perfect balance of security and stability and with a
 custom-generic kernel the RAM footprint is comparatively tiny and makes
 for a very responsive server.

 I have no enough experience with Slackware. AFAIK, it's simple as BSD. Is it 
 true?

It is the oldest and most unix-like and vanilla distributions of linux.
Simplicity is at its heart along with security and stability. I use it
on Servers, Desktops and Laptops alike.

 AFAIK, they're all provide good data safety. Now we're using MySQL  InnoDB, 
 I 
 think XFS should be fast enough. But we may migrate to PostgreSQL. AFAIK it 
 uses 
 a number of files (I may be wrong) to serve its DB. So, there can be 
 Reiser/JFS.

Whatever you pick, build it into your kernel and you'll be fine :)

 
 - apache 2.2 or nginx?
 Apache. No Question.

 Why? nginx supports FastCGI too and it is recommended to use on dedicated 
 projects.

Let me put it this way.. when you run into trouble, you want to be on
the same server that 99.9% of RT users are running.
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Re: [rt-users] What software is recommended for high-loaded RT3.8-latest?

2009-04-02 Thread Agnislav Onufrijchuk
Kenneth Marshall wrote:
 Are these 4000 tickets per day or 4000 updates total? 10 tickets
 is not very many if you actually generate 4000 tickets per day. Do
 you shred old tickets to remove them from your DB?
 
4000 Transactions, not tickets per day.

 - File system: Ext3/XFS/JFS/...?
 Use the supported/recommended one for your chosen OS.
 
Even if I'll choose FreeBSD, I will not use UFS :)  It's too slow.

 - apache 2.2 or nginx?
 Apache all the way.
 
What advantages does it have?

 - MySQL or Postgresql?
 We use PostgreSQL here because the release quality does not vary
 as wildly and MySQL. Check the mailing list for problems caused by
 particular versions of MySQL. If you pick a tested version, it will
 work well. PostgreSQL also support full text index support that make
 searching ticket body content extremely fast. We also use the Slony
 replication software to keep a warm spare RT system ready to go, in
 case the primary system has a hardware problem. We really want to
 have redundancy in our ticket system because it should be up even if
 everything else is down. :)
 
FTS - is one of the advantages of PostgreSQL we look for.

Thank you for help!

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Re: [rt-users] RT 3.8.2 packages for Debian Lenny?

2009-04-02 Thread Dominic Hargreaves
On Wed, Apr 01, 2009 at 07:22:30AM +0100, Tim Cutts wrote:

 On 31 Mar 2009, at 8:23 am, Martin Maurer wrote:

 Hi Dominic,

 Thanks for this, I see the 3.8.2 packages are already in unstable AND 
 testing - but what about the original discussed idea to have an extra 
 repo with rt 3.8.x for Lenny?

 ... or possibly get the packages uploaded to lenny-backports, might be a 
 better solution.

It's not a valid upload candidate for lenny-backports, since the version
in testing/unstable does not require rebuilding to work on lenny.

The normal way of handling these cases would be to add, for example,
testing or unstable APT lines, with appropriate package pinning to
avoid pulling anything except the required packages, or to put packages
in a site-local repository.

The last time this was discussed Martin was keen to provide a repository
with just the request-tracker3.8 package and dependencies not satisfied
in lenny, but I'm still in two minds about whether this is worth the
extra work. I certainly don't have a use case for it (since we already
have our own private apt repositories for local builds).

Martin, could you think again about whether you are able to get by with the
appropriate package pinning?

Dominic.

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Computing Services, University of Oxford
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Re: [rt-users] What software is recommended for high-loaded RT3.8-latest?

2009-04-02 Thread Agnislav Onufrijchuk
 Are these 4000 tickets per day or 4000 updates total? 10 tickets
 is not very many if you actually generate 4000 tickets per day. Do
 you shred old tickets to remove them from your DB?

One more thing: we have 4000 transactions, but we have a number of long SELECT 
queries every day. No, we didn't shred any of tickets yet, because currently we 
use 3.4.4 version :(


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Re: [rt-users] What software is recommended for high-loaded RT3.8-latest?

2009-04-02 Thread Kenneth Marshall
On Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 04:58:34PM +0300, Agnislav Onufrijchuk wrote:
 Kenneth Marshall wrote:
  Are these 4000 tickets per day or 4000 updates total? 10 tickets
  is not very many if you actually generate 4000 tickets per day. Do
  you shred old tickets to remove them from your DB?
  
 4000 Transactions, not tickets per day.
 
Good, that means every alternative will meet your needs performance-wise.

  - File system: Ext3/XFS/JFS/...?
  Use the supported/recommended one for your chosen OS.
  
 Even if I'll choose FreeBSD, I will not use UFS :)  It's too slow.

Makes sense.

 
  - apache 2.2 or nginx?
  Apache all the way.
  
 What advantages does it have?

The biggest advantage is the userbase for when you have a problem.

 
  - MySQL or Postgresql?
  We use PostgreSQL here because the release quality does not vary
  as wildly and MySQL. Check the mailing list for problems caused by
  particular versions of MySQL. If you pick a tested version, it will
  work well. PostgreSQL also support full text index support that make
  searching ticket body content extremely fast. We also use the Slony
  replication software to keep a warm spare RT system ready to go, in
  case the primary system has a hardware problem. We really want to
  have redundancy in our ticket system because it should be up even if
  everything else is down. :)
  
 FTS - is one of the advantages of PostgreSQL we look for.
 

I am partial to FTS and it definitely rocks on PostgreSQL.

Cheers,
Ken
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Re: [rt-users] What software is recommended for high-loaded RT3.8-latest?

2009-04-02 Thread Agnislav Onufrijchuk
 - apache 2.2 or nginx?
 Apache. No Question.

 Why? nginx supports FastCGI too and it is recommended to use on dedicated 
 projects.
 
 Let me put it this way.. when you run into trouble, you want to be on
 the same server that 99.9% of RT users are running.
Agree :)

Thanks for help!


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Re: [rt-users] Allow client to see their requested tickets

2009-04-02 Thread Odhiambo Washington
On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 2:53 PM, Dave Wells dave.we...@foreshore.net wrote:

 Hi,

 We have a requirement to allow our clients to have access to our
 ticketing system.

 We only want to allow them to see tickets that they are the requester
 for.

 We would also like them to have the ability to reply within their
 tickets.

 Its highly important that they obviously cant see any tickets that they
 are not the requester for.

 What would be the best way to go about this?


IIRC, there is something in the Wiki to help you do this: A template that
you use to autorespond, which gives the requestor a username and password
and a link to follow their request, some scrips and some configuration
(Privilege grants) in RT.
It's long since I did this, but I am sure I used to do it. Check the Addons
too.

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Re: [rt-users] Install RT 1.0.7

2009-04-02 Thread Jesse Vincent



On Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 09:10:16AM +0200, Markus Hummel wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Many thanks for your fast answer.
 At the moment we are using a RT 1.0.7 installation on an old machine. The OS 
 and the OS configuration are a nightmare.
 Because hardware and RT are very old, our admin decided to move to a new 
 system. The idea: Install a new ticket request system (such as RT or OTRS) on 
 a VMware machine. To keep all the old tickets, we would like to install RT 1 
 parallel to the new system on the same machine read only.

Why not use the RT upgrade tools to move your RT1 tickets to a newer RT?

 Actually this should not be a great problem. Unfortunately, the Perl module 
 causes problems, however.
 
 So far everything correct?
 If this should not work so, we would install a second Debian parallel if 
 necessary as suggested. Somebody still sees an alternative to the second 
 machine?
 
 Best regards,
 Markus Hummel
 
 
 -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
 Von: Jesse Vincent [mailto:je...@bestpractical.com] 
 Gesendet: Mittwoch, 1. April 2009 17:56
 An: Markus Hummel
 Cc: rt-users@lists.bestpractical.com
 Betreff: Re: [rt-users] Install RT 1.0.7
 
 
 
 
 On Wed  1.Apr'09 at 16:37:23 +0200, Markus Hummel wrote:
  Hi,
  
  I have a small problem and hope you can help me.
  I try to install RT 1.0.7 on a current distribution - I know, crazy
  request ;)
 
 Perhaps you could tell us what you're actually trying to accomplish by
 installing RT 1.0. 
 
 In general, I'd recommend finding a debian distribution from around then
 and running it in vmware, if you really need to run RT 1.0.
 

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Re: [rt-users] What software is recommended for high-loaded RT3.8-latest?

2009-04-02 Thread Kenneth Marshall
On Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 05:03:30PM +0300, Agnislav Onufrijchuk wrote:
  Are these 4000 tickets per day or 4000 updates total? 10 tickets
  is not very many if you actually generate 4000 tickets per day. Do
  you shred old tickets to remove them from your DB?
 
 One more thing: we have 4000 transactions, but we have a number of long 
 SELECT 
 queries every day. No, we didn't shred any of tickets yet, because currently 
 we 
 use 3.4.4 version :(
 

Have you run EXPLAIN or the MySQL equivalent to see what is taking
the time in the long queries? Maybe adjusting your indexes would
help.

Cheers,
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Re: [rt-users] Allow client to see their requested tickets

2009-04-02 Thread Dave Wells
 
Thanks Roy,

That's exactly what i am looking for =)


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From: Raed El-Hames [mailto:r...@vialtus.com] 
Sent: 02 April 2009 14:18
To: Dave Wells
Subject: Re: [rt-users] Allow client to see their requested tickets

Dave;

The self service interface allows exactly that, Been running my rt for
so many years I forgot what were the default rights , but if you give
the global group Requestor the right to:
ShowTicket
ReplyToTicket
ModifyTicket (if you want them to be able to change ticket status) then
any unprivileged user with a password assigned can login to RT and be
presented with a list if their tickets which they can reply/modify
*
Roy

*

http://www.vialtus.com/

 

This email is subject to:

http://www.vialtus.com/disclaimer.html

 

 



Dave Wells wrote:
 Hi,

 We have a requirement to allow our clients to have access to our
 ticketing system.

 We only want to allow them to see tickets that they are the requester
 for.

 We would also like them to have the ability to reply within their
 tickets.

 Its highly important that they obviously cant see any tickets that
they
 are not the requester for.

 What would be the best way to go about this?

 Many Thanks
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Re: [rt-users] Install RT 1.0.7

2009-04-02 Thread Markus Hummel
Actually the idea of leaving the old system 1 for 1 was. Not carrying out any 
change at the contents and at the appearance.
But if it cannot be solved differently, of course this is also worth a 
consideration.

So remain summarizing left:
a.) Use separate virtual machine.
b.) Convert RT to a newer version.
c.) Use an old(er) OS.

These are my possible options, aren't they? No (easy) way to fix the perl 
problem and correct something on perl or RT? I think the problem is the mysql 
emulation, isn't it?

Best regards,
Markus Hummel


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Von: Jesse Vincent [mailto:je...@bestpractical.com] 
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 2. April 2009 16:20
An: Markus Hummel
Cc: Jesse Vincent; rt-users@lists.bestpractical.com
Betreff: Re: [rt-users] Install RT 1.0.7




On Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 09:10:16AM +0200, Markus Hummel wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Many thanks for your fast answer.
 At the moment we are using a RT 1.0.7 installation on an old machine. The OS 
 and the OS configuration are a nightmare.
 Because hardware and RT are very old, our admin decided to move to a new 
 system. The idea: Install a new ticket request system (such as RT or OTRS) on 
 a VMware machine. To keep all the old tickets, we would like to install RT 1 
 parallel to the new system on the same machine read only.

Why not use the RT upgrade tools to move your RT1 tickets to a newer RT?

 Actually this should not be a great problem. Unfortunately, the Perl module 
 causes problems, however.
 
 So far everything correct?
 If this should not work so, we would install a second Debian parallel if 
 necessary as suggested. Somebody still sees an alternative to the second 
 machine?
 
 Best regards,
 Markus Hummel
 
 
 -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
 Von: Jesse Vincent [mailto:je...@bestpractical.com] 
 Gesendet: Mittwoch, 1. April 2009 17:56
 An: Markus Hummel
 Cc: rt-users@lists.bestpractical.com
 Betreff: Re: [rt-users] Install RT 1.0.7
 
 
 
 
 On Wed  1.Apr'09 at 16:37:23 +0200, Markus Hummel wrote:
  Hi,
  
  I have a small problem and hope you can help me.
  I try to install RT 1.0.7 on a current distribution - I know, crazy
  request ;)
 
 Perhaps you could tell us what you're actually trying to accomplish by
 installing RT 1.0. 
 
 In general, I'd recommend finding a debian distribution from around then
 and running it in vmware, if you really need to run RT 1.0.
 

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Re: [rt-users] Install RT 1.0.7

2009-04-02 Thread Ham MI-ID, Torsten Brumm
Hi markus,
We had a similar problem in the past, not for rt 1 but for RT2 and a brand new 
system, os. What we did several years ago was, we installed the new system RT3 
and then we had all needed perl modules, later we simply copied the rt2 files 
to the new server and also moved the old db to the new server, rt started up 
without any problems, try it out in a vm, it is not a big deal!

Torsten

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An: Jesse Vincent je...@bestpractical.com
Cc: rt-users@lists.bestpractical.com rt-users@lists.bestpractical.com
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Betreff: Re: [rt-users] Install RT 1.0.7

Actually the idea of leaving the old system 1 for 1 was. Not carrying out any 
change at the contents and at the appearance.
But if it cannot be solved differently, of course this is also worth a 
consideration.

So remain summarizing left:
a.) Use separate virtual machine.
b.) Convert RT to a newer version.
c.) Use an old(er) OS.

These are my possible options, aren't they? No (easy) way to fix the perl 
problem and correct something on perl or RT? I think the problem is the mysql 
emulation, isn't it?

Best regards,
Markus Hummel



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Betreff: Re: [rt-users] Install RT 1.0.7




On Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 09:10:16AM +0200, Markus Hummel wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Many thanks for your fast answer.
 At the moment we are using a RT 1.0.7 installation on an old machine. The OS 
 and the OS configuration are a nightmare.
 Because hardware and RT are very old, our admin decided to move to a new 
 system. The idea: Install a new ticket request system (such as RT or OTRS) on 
 a VMware machine. To keep all the old tickets, we would like to install RT 1 
 parallel to the new system on the same machine read only.

Why not use the RT upgrade tools to move your RT1 tickets to a newer RT?

 Actually this should not be a great problem. Unfortunately, the Perl module 
 causes problems, however.
 
 So far everything correct?
 If this should not work so, we would install a second Debian parallel if 
 necessary as suggested. Somebody still sees an alternative to the second 
 machine?
 
 Best regards,
 Markus Hummel
 
 
 -Urspruengliche Nachricht-
 Von: Jesse Vincent [mailto:je...@bestpractical.com] 
 Gesendet: Mittwoch, 1. April 2009 17:56
 An: Markus Hummel
 Cc: rt-users@lists.bestpractical.com
 Betreff: Re: [rt-users] Install RT 1.0.7
 
 
 
 
 On Wed  1.Apr'09 at 16:37:23 +0200, Markus Hummel wrote:
  Hi,
  
  I have a small problem and hope you can help me.
  I try to install RT 1.0.7 on a current distribution - I know, crazy
  request ;)
 
 Perhaps you could tell us what you're actually trying to accomplish by
 installing RT 1.0. 
 
 In general, I'd recommend finding a debian distribution from around then
 and running it in vmware, if you really need to run RT 1.0.
 

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Re: [rt-users] Install RT 1.0.7

2009-04-02 Thread Jesse Vincent

On Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 05:29:46PM +0200, Markus Hummel wrote:
 Actually the idea of leaving the old system 1 for 1 was. Not carrying out any 
 change at the contents and at the appearance.
 But if it cannot be solved differently, of course this is also worth a 
 consideration.
 
 So remain summarizing left:
 a.) Use separate virtual machine.
 b.) Convert RT to a newer version.
 c.) Use an old(er) OS.

d) Update RT 1.0.x to work with modern infrastructure. This requires
some perl knowledge, but could be done either by a member of your team
or by folks at Best Practical.  It's probably not the cheapest option,
though.
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Re: [rt-users] Is it possible to change priority direction

2009-04-02 Thread Ken Crocker

Simon,

   I concur with Jerrad. We use the numbers 1 thru 5 with 1 being 
emergency, etc. We've been on RT for 3 years and haven't seen any code 
or process that uses any native sequencing of the priority field. I 
believe you can write your own progression and promotion sequences on 
your own in a cron job. Hope this helps.


Kenn
LBNL

On 4/2/2009 8:31 AM, Jerrad Pierce wrote:

On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 04:59, Simon Dray simon.d...@antplc.com wrote:
  

The direction of priority from 0 – 99 and consequently the escalation
process does not fit with our model and I would like to change it so that 0
is highest is this possible.


I would start-off with one of the patches for using textual priorities.
It'd certainly be easy to have High be 0-20 and Low as 60-80,
but you might be able to extend this to backwards numbers without
much difficulty. Honestly though. I'm not aware of too much in RT that
makes any real assumptions about priorities. Escalation is something
you add, and it's simply a matter of flipping the sign of an operation
to have it work as you want...

  
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[rt-users] Ticket Display Question

2009-04-02 Thread Chris Newcomb
When viewing a ticket in 3.8.1, you have the section More about
usern...@domain.com this is helpful if you have a large number of
people emailing your rt instillation, however the way ours is setup we
only have 2 or 3 email addresses that send to us, that are forwards from
others.  What I have been looking for is if it is possible to change
More about usern...@domain.com to something that is more useful maybe
displaying items with similar subjects, or similar custom fields
instead.  Is this something possible, where would the changes need to be
made?  Thanks in advance.

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Re: [rt-users] RT 3.8.2 packages for Debian Lenny?

2009-04-02 Thread Martin Maurer
 -Original Message-
 From: Dominic Hargreaves [mailto:dominic.hargrea...@oucs.ox.ac.uk]
 Sent: Donnerstag, 02. April 2009 15:59
 To: Tim Cutts
 Cc: Martin Maurer; rt-users@lists.bestpractical.com
 Subject: Re: [rt-users] RT 3.8.2 packages for Debian Lenny?
 
 On Wed, Apr 01, 2009 at 07:22:30AM +0100, Tim Cutts wrote:
 
  On 31 Mar 2009, at 8:23 am, Martin Maurer wrote:
 
  Hi Dominic,
 
  Thanks for this, I see the 3.8.2 packages are already in unstable AND
  testing - but what about the original discussed idea to have an extra
  repo with rt 3.8.x for Lenny?
 
  ... or possibly get the packages uploaded to lenny-backports, might be
 a
  better solution.
 
 It's not a valid upload candidate for lenny-backports, since the version
 in testing/unstable does not require rebuilding to work on lenny.
 
 The normal way of handling these cases would be to add, for example,
 testing or unstable APT lines, with appropriate package pinning to
 avoid pulling anything except the required packages, or to put packages
 in a site-local repository.
 
 The last time this was discussed Martin was keen to provide a repository
 with just the request-tracker3.8 package and dependencies not satisfied
 in lenny, but I'm still in two minds about whether this is worth the
 extra work. I certainly don't have a use case for it (since we already
 have our own private apt repositories for local builds).
 
 Martin, could you think again about whether you are able to get by with
 the
 appropriate package pinning?

Thanks, I will test this and give feedback.

Br, Martin

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Re: [rt-users] What software is recommended for high-loaded RT3.8-latest?

2009-04-02 Thread Tom Lahti
 I have no enough experience with Slackware. AFAIK, it's simple as BSD. Is it 
 true?

I second the Slackware vote.  I use it for everything.  It's the ultimate
distro for reliability-through-simplicity.  Install nothing you don't need.
 If you don't need xxgdb on your production server, don't install it.  (I
don't even have X installed on my servers, but that's just me).
Incidentally I frequently have servers go 200 days + without so much as a
reboot, even high volume FTP servers like this one:

r...@:~# uptime
 13:13:47 up 246 days,  1:53,  2 users,  load average: 0.23, 0.14, 0.05

 AFAIK, they're all provide good data safety. Now we're using MySQL  InnoDB, 
 I 
 think XFS should be fast enough. But we may migrate to PostgreSQL. AFAIK it 
 uses 
 a number of files (I may be wrong) to serve its DB. So, there can be 
 Reiser/JFS.

Filesystems are something I've spent a LOT of time on, so I know something
about this.

XFS has not-so-good safety.  The fsck / repair tools don't work on very
large filesystems because they need massive amount of memory -- more often
than not, more than you have.  If you need to fsck XFS, odds are you'll be
formatting it instead.  That said, it is deliciously fast and scalable when
properly optioned.  Use a RAID controller with battery backup and you should
be fine; otherwise turn off write-back caching.  Or, test your backups
frequently for restorability. :)

reiserfs is similiar to XFS with safety.  A fsck almost never works because
everything's a tree -- once the tree is scrambled, everything in the tree
below that point is scrambled too.  This is even a bigger risk if you don't
make the filesystem with notail.  You'll be formatting, not fsck'ing.  It
also doesn't scale well and its performance with large files is horrid.

JFS on the other hand, has wonderful repair tools and decent scalability.
Unfortunately, the performance of JFS degrades exponentially with the number
of inodes used (files  directories) as it searches everything rather
linearly, and the inode structure is necessarily inefficient to make it
easily repairable.  Not recommended for a filesystem with gobs and gobs of
small files.  (Unfortunately, I have two 12TB RAID arrays formatted JFS with
over 14 million small files on them, and if they weren't in production, I'd
change it in a heart-beat).

ext4 is no longer in development mode and is considered production quality
(in kernel 2.6.28 and newer).  I highly recommend using it over the other
options.  It is extent-based rather than block-mapped (if you format it as
such), it has the reliability of ext3 and then some (as the journal is
checksummed), and its even faster with lots of small files than reiser if
you create the filesystem with the dir_index option (which creates a hash of
directory entries that is even faster than reiser's b-tree).  It even fsck's
faster than ext3 because it skips unallocated space.

In short: XFS is fast and not reliable.  JFS is very reliable, but slow.
Reiserfs is a pitiful joke (which can used successfully by the daring 
lucky).  ext4 gives you everything you always asked for: the speed of XFS
(ok, almost), the fast lookups of reiser, and the reliability of JFS :)

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[rt-users] Text formatted pages after upgrade

2009-04-02 Thread Schaffer, Russell
I have just upgraded my RT instance from 3.6.5 to 3.8.2 and am having one small 
issue.  When I go to the site none of the graphical rendering is present.  The 
login boxes and text are present but the nice blue screen and layout are gone.  
The same is true when I login, no blue and the layout is all messed up.  I had 
followed the upgrade directions and installed the new instance into its own  
directory and just changed the apache configuration to point to the new 
directory.  The database is working fine as I can see all of the tickets that 
were in the old instance.  Also, I can switch back to 3.6.5 and it still works 
fine and looks fine.  I have been banging my head and cannot find out what I am 
missing.

I have been scouring the logs and cannot find anything pertinent to this issue. 
 I have also tried this in a  test system and it worked fine so I do not know 
what is missing.
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Re: [rt-users] What software is recommended for high-loaded RT3.8-latest?

2009-04-02 Thread Stuart Browne
Publicly faced:
Web server : 22:05:01 up 566 days, 10:38,  0 users,  load average: 0.04, 0.03, 
0.02
Mail server: 09:04:10 up 573 days, 15:16,  0 users,  load average: 0.16, 0.04, 
0.01
Name server: 22:04:16 up 573 days, 21:34,  0 users,  load average: 0.02, 0.05, 
0.00

RHEL5.

Simplicity isn't always better.  Management of distribution counts for a lot.

In any case, choose which ever platform you're comfortable with.

Stuart

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[mailto:rt-users-boun...@lists.bestpractical.com] On Behalf Of Tom Lahti
Sent: Friday, 3 April 2009 07:17
To: Agnislav Onufrijchuk
Cc: rt-users@lists.bestpractical.com
Subject: Re: [rt-users] What software is recommended for high-loaded 
RT3.8-latest?

 I have no enough experience with Slackware. AFAIK, it's simple as BSD. Is it 
 true?

I second the Slackware vote.  I use it for everything.  It's the ultimate
distro for reliability-through-simplicity.  Install nothing you don't need.
 If you don't need xxgdb on your production server, don't install it.  (I
don't even have X installed on my servers, but that's just me).
Incidentally I frequently have servers go 200 days + without so much as a
reboot, even high volume FTP servers like this one:

r...@:~# uptime
 13:13:47 up 246 days,  1:53,  2 users,  load average: 0.23, 0.14, 0.05

 AFAIK, they're all provide good data safety. Now we're using MySQL  InnoDB, 
 I 
 think XFS should be fast enough. But we may migrate to PostgreSQL. AFAIK it 
 uses 
 a number of files (I may be wrong) to serve its DB. So, there can be 
 Reiser/JFS.

Filesystems are something I've spent a LOT of time on, so I know something
about this.

XFS has not-so-good safety.  The fsck / repair tools don't work on very
large filesystems because they need massive amount of memory -- more often
than not, more than you have.  If you need to fsck XFS, odds are you'll be
formatting it instead.  That said, it is deliciously fast and scalable when
properly optioned.  Use a RAID controller with battery backup and you should
be fine; otherwise turn off write-back caching.  Or, test your backups
frequently for restorability. :)

reiserfs is similiar to XFS with safety.  A fsck almost never works because
everything's a tree -- once the tree is scrambled, everything in the tree
below that point is scrambled too.  This is even a bigger risk if you don't
make the filesystem with notail.  You'll be formatting, not fsck'ing.  It
also doesn't scale well and its performance with large files is horrid.

JFS on the other hand, has wonderful repair tools and decent scalability.
Unfortunately, the performance of JFS degrades exponentially with the number
of inodes used (files  directories) as it searches everything rather
linearly, and the inode structure is necessarily inefficient to make it
easily repairable.  Not recommended for a filesystem with gobs and gobs of
small files.  (Unfortunately, I have two 12TB RAID arrays formatted JFS with
over 14 million small files on them, and if they weren't in production, I'd
change it in a heart-beat).

ext4 is no longer in development mode and is considered production quality
(in kernel 2.6.28 and newer).  I highly recommend using it over the other
options.  It is extent-based rather than block-mapped (if you format it as
such), it has the reliability of ext3 and then some (as the journal is
checksummed), and its even faster with lots of small files than reiser if
you create the filesystem with the dir_index option (which creates a hash of
directory entries that is even faster than reiser's b-tree).  It even fsck's
faster than ext3 because it skips unallocated space.

In short: XFS is fast and not reliable.  JFS is very reliable, but slow.
Reiserfs is a pitiful joke (which can used successfully by the daring 
lucky).  ext4 gives you everything you always asked for: the speed of XFS
(ok, almost), the fast lookups of reiser, and the reliability of JFS :)

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[rt-users] restrict setting status to resolved

2009-04-02 Thread Tom Lahti
Despite all my work with the REST interface, I know little to nothing about
scrips.  I've been asked to restrict setting ticket status to 'resolved'
unless the actor is a requestor.

I tried setting up a scrip with condition On resolve, Action User defined,
Stage Transaction Create:

  return 1 if $self-TransactionObj-IsInbound;
  $TicketObj-_Set(Field = 'Status', Value = 'open', RecordTransaction = 0);
  return 0;

and also:

  return 1 if $self-TransactionObj-IsInbound;
  $TicketObj-_Set(Field = 'Status', Value = 'open', RecordTransaction = 0);
  return 1;


and tried this in both custom action prep code and custom action cleanup
code, as I'm not terribly clear on where it belongs.  (I probably also want
the Value to be the 'old value', but I'm not sure how to access that).

However, nothing seems to have any effect on a user being able to set a
ticket status to resolved when they are not a requestor.  Any scrip fu
guru's out there willing to beat me with a clue bat?

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Re: [rt-users] restrict setting status to resolved

2009-04-02 Thread Tom Lahti
Argh, as usual the answer hits me right as I hit 'send'.

   $TicketObj-_Set(Field = 'Status', Value = 'open', RecordTransaction = 
 0);

should be

$self-TicketObj-blah blah

Now, how to get at the old value instead of hard-coding open.


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Re: [rt-users] restrict setting status to resolved

2009-04-02 Thread Shawn M Moore
On Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 05:21:16PM -0700, Tom Lahti wrote:
 Now, how to get at the old value instead of hard-coding open.

$self-TransactionObj-OldValue

Shawn
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