Re: [rt-users] Custom Fields (Applies to Ticket Transactions) - not saving at ticket level

2011-07-18 Thread Kevin Falcone
On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 10:50:25AM +1000, Joanne Keown wrote:
 BTW, does anyone know if the RT user manual (RT Essentials) been updated for 
 RT4?

O'Reilly commissions new editions based on demand.  Writing to them to
express your interest is probably the easiest thing to do.

Luckily, many of the example configurations and basic concepts still
apply in RT4, even if the screenshots are older.

-kevin


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Re: [rt-users] Custom Fields (Applies to Ticket Transactions) - not saving at ticket level

2011-07-18 Thread Joanne Keown
Thanks Kevin, will do.

Kind regards

Jo

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Sent: Tuesday, 19 July 2011 12:54 AM
To: rt-users@lists.bestpractical.com
Subject: Re: [rt-users] Custom Fields (Applies to Ticket Transactions) - not 
saving at ticket level

On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 10:50:25AM +1000, Joanne Keown wrote:
 BTW, does anyone know if the RT user manual (RT Essentials) been updated for 
 RT4?

O'Reilly commissions new editions based on demand.  Writing to them to express 
your interest is probably the easiest thing to do.

Luckily, many of the example configurations and basic concepts still apply in 
RT4, even if the screenshots are older.

-kevin


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Re: [rt-users] Custom Fields (Applies to Ticket Transactions) - not saving at ticket level

2011-07-14 Thread Joanne Keown
Hi Kevin,
Thanks very much for the below.

BTW, does anyone know if the RT user manual (RT Essentials) been updated for 
RT4?

Kind regards
Jo

Jo Keown, MBusAdmin(Mgt), MIPA
IS Business Analyst
Colorado Group Ltd 
100 Melbourne Street
South Brisbane  QLD   4101
Ph:    +61  7 3877 3399
Mobile:   0402 697 351
Email: joanne.ke...@coloradogroup.com.au


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-Original Message-
From: rt-users-boun...@lists.bestpractical.com 
[mailto:rt-users-boun...@lists.bestpractical.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Falcone
Sent: Thursday, 14 July 2011 12:26 AM
To: rt-users@lists.bestpractical.com
Subject: Re: [rt-users] Custom Fields (Applies to Ticket Transactions) - not 
saving at ticket level

On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 09:10:13AM +1000, Joanne Keown wrote:
 Does anyone know of a more elegant way of dealing with that number of 
 Tickets? Because I have to put all my CF's applying to Tickets, I 
 have over 20 CF's to deal with. It would be nice to be able to 
 arrange/group them on the screen so that the workflow is a bit more 
 elegant.

Some folks use overlays to separate them.

You can order them in the Admin UI.

RT4 added a lot more css and html changes to make this easier, but still no 
grouping.

-kevin

 Would love some hints if anyone has achieved this.
 
 PS:  Hi Yan;  I have just moved all my Upload CF's as applying to Tickets 
 as well.  I can now find these against the relevant ticket.  But, as I said 
 above, it's pretty messy and difficult to deal with.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: rt-users-boun...@lists.bestpractical.com 
 [mailto:rt-users-boun...@lists.bestpractical.com] On Behalf Of Kevin 
 Falcone
 Sent: Wednesday, 13 July 2011 8:01 AM
 To: rt-users@lists.bestpractical.com
 Subject: Re: [rt-users] Custom Fields (Applies to Ticket Transactions) 
 - not saving at ticket level
 
 On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 09:55:21AM +1000, Joanne Keown wrote:
 I'm obviously missing something.  I have created a number of custom 
  fields and set them as
 applying to  Ticket Transactions, on the expectation that these would 
  allow me to capture
 ticket data that I could both report on and update over a period of 
  time.  However, I notice
 that any data I captured against these is not being `saved' against the 
  ticket.
 
 Ticket Transaction Custom Fields apply to Ticket Transactions.
 They're displayed inline in the ticket history between the header and the 
 content of the transaction.
 
 If you want to save it against the ticket, you want Ticket Custom Fields.
 
 You cannot search on Transaction Custom Fields, however all the data is 
 available in the Database.
 
 -kevin
 
 I am getting the impression that, even though it's called Ticket 
  Transactions,  it's not
 actually capturing the data at the ticket level and that my only option 
  might be to put all
 these Custom Fields as applying to Tickets.  This option isn't 
  desirable as there will now
 be over 20 Custom Fields on one page - quite overwhelming.  As this 
  group of cf's are designed
 to capture process steps taken by our Customer Services staff in 
  resolving a ticket (also
 capture notes and file attachments at stages), they provide a prompter 
  as to what step is next
 in the resolution process and what stage the ticket is at.
  
  
  
 Does anyone know of another way of separating the main ticket entry cf's 
  (Meta data) from the
 transactional/workflow cf's?


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Re: [rt-users] Custom Fields (Applies to Ticket Transactions) - not saving at ticket level

2011-07-13 Thread Tim Cutts

On 12 Jul 2011, at 23:10, Yan Seiner wrote:

 This explains why I have not been able to get this to work.  :-)
 
 I am trying to figure out some way of tagging specific transactions.  I
 have users who upload specific documents, or make specific comments, that
 need to be tagged a certain way.  For example, one of our engineers might
 upload a cost estimate to a ticket.  I want that transaction to be tagged
 as a cost estimate, so we can find it later on.
 
 Is there any way to do that?  I don't want to rely on file names, as this
 gets dicey.  Any way to add a tag to a transaction that is searchable?

I can think of a bit of a hack; you could have a scrip which notices such 
transactions, and adds the transaction ID to a ticket level custom field.  You 
can then search on that custom field, and probably do something to make the 
results a clickable link to the transaction in question.

Tim

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Re: [rt-users] Custom Fields (Applies to Ticket Transactions) - not saving at ticket level

2011-07-13 Thread Kevin Falcone
On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 09:10:13AM +1000, Joanne Keown wrote:
 Does anyone know of a more elegant way of dealing with that number of
 Tickets? Because I have to put all my CF's applying to Tickets, I
 have over 20 CF's to deal with. It would be nice to be able to
 arrange/group them on the screen so that the workflow is a bit more
 elegant.

Some folks use overlays to separate them.

You can order them in the Admin UI.

RT4 added a lot more css and html changes to make this easier, but
still no grouping.

-kevin

 Would love some hints if anyone has achieved this.
 
 PS:  Hi Yan;  I have just moved all my Upload CF's as applying to Tickets 
 as well.  I can now find these against the relevant ticket.  But, as I said 
 above, it's pretty messy and difficult to deal with.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: rt-users-boun...@lists.bestpractical.com 
 [mailto:rt-users-boun...@lists.bestpractical.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Falcone
 Sent: Wednesday, 13 July 2011 8:01 AM
 To: rt-users@lists.bestpractical.com
 Subject: Re: [rt-users] Custom Fields (Applies to Ticket Transactions) - not 
 saving at ticket level
 
 On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 09:55:21AM +1000, Joanne Keown wrote:
 I'm obviously missing something.  I have created a number of custom 
  fields and set them as
 applying to  Ticket Transactions, on the expectation that these would 
  allow me to capture
 ticket data that I could both report on and update over a period of 
  time.  However, I notice
 that any data I captured against these is not being `saved' against the 
  ticket.
 
 Ticket Transaction Custom Fields apply to Ticket Transactions.
 They're displayed inline in the ticket history between the header and the 
 content of the transaction.
 
 If you want to save it against the ticket, you want Ticket Custom Fields.
 
 You cannot search on Transaction Custom Fields, however all the data is 
 available in the Database.
 
 -kevin
 
 I am getting the impression that, even though it's called Ticket 
  Transactions,  it's not
 actually capturing the data at the ticket level and that my only option 
  might be to put all
 these Custom Fields as applying to Tickets.  This option isn't 
  desirable as there will now
 be over 20 Custom Fields on one page - quite overwhelming.  As this 
  group of cf's are designed
 to capture process steps taken by our Customer Services staff in 
  resolving a ticket (also
 capture notes and file attachments at stages), they provide a prompter 
  as to what step is next
 in the resolution process and what stage the ticket is at.
  
  
  
 Does anyone know of another way of separating the main ticket entry cf's 
  (Meta data) from the
 transactional/workflow cf's?


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Re: [rt-users] Custom Fields (Applies to Ticket Transactions) - not saving at ticket level

2011-07-12 Thread Kevin Falcone
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 09:55:21AM +1000, Joanne Keown wrote:
I'm obviously missing something.  I have created a number of custom fields 
 and set them as
applying to  Ticket Transactions, on the expectation that these would 
 allow me to capture
ticket data that I could both report on and update over a period of time.  
 However, I notice
that any data I captured against these is not being `saved' against the 
 ticket.

Ticket Transaction Custom Fields apply to Ticket Transactions.
They're displayed inline in the ticket history between the header and
the content of the transaction.

If you want to save it against the ticket, you want Ticket Custom
Fields.

You cannot search on Transaction Custom Fields, however all the data
is available in the Database.

-kevin

I am getting the impression that, even though it's called Ticket 
 Transactions,  it's not
actually capturing the data at the ticket level and that my only option 
 might be to put all
these Custom Fields as applying to Tickets.  This option isn't desirable 
 as there will now
be over 20 Custom Fields on one page - quite overwhelming.  As this group 
 of cf's are designed
to capture process steps taken by our Customer Services staff in resolving 
 a ticket (also
capture notes and file attachments at stages), they provide a prompter as 
 to what step is next
in the resolution process and what stage the ticket is at.
 
 
 
Does anyone know of another way of separating the main ticket entry cf's 
 (Meta data) from the
transactional/workflow cf's?


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Re: [rt-users] Custom Fields (Applies to Ticket Transactions) - not saving at ticket level

2011-07-12 Thread Yan Seiner

On Tue, July 12, 2011 3:00 pm, Kevin Falcone wrote:
 On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 09:55:21AM +1000, Joanne Keown wrote:
I'm obviously missing something.  I have created a number of custom
 fields and set them as
applying to  Ticket Transactions, on the expectation that these
 would allow me to capture
ticket data that I could both report on and update over a period of
 time.  However, I notice
that any data I captured against these is not being `saved' against
 the ticket.

 Ticket Transaction Custom Fields apply to Ticket Transactions.
 They're displayed inline in the ticket history between the header and
 the content of the transaction.

 If you want to save it against the ticket, you want Ticket Custom
 Fields.

 You cannot search on Transaction Custom Fields, however all the data
 is available in the Database.

This explains why I have not been able to get this to work.  :-)

I am trying to figure out some way of tagging specific transactions.  I
have users who upload specific documents, or make specific comments, that
need to be tagged a certain way.  For example, one of our engineers might
upload a cost estimate to a ticket.  I want that transaction to be tagged
as a cost estimate, so we can find it later on.

Is there any way to do that?  I don't want to rely on file names, as this
gets dicey.  Any way to add a tag to a transaction that is searchable?



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Re: [rt-users] Custom Fields (Applies to Ticket Transactions) - not saving at ticket level

2011-07-12 Thread Joanne Keown
Thanks Kevin.

Does anyone know of a more elegant way of dealing with that number of Tickets?  
 Because I have to put all my CF's applying to Tickets, I have over 20 CF's 
to deal with.  It would be nice to be able to arrange/group them on the screen 
so that the workflow is a bit more elegant.

Would love some hints if anyone has achieved this.

PS:  Hi Yan;  I have just moved all my Upload CF's as applying to Tickets as 
well.  I can now find these against the relevant ticket.  But, as I said above, 
it's pretty messy and difficult to deal with.

Kind regards
Jo

Jo Keown, MBusAdmin(Mgt), MIPA
IS Business Analyst
Colorado Group Ltd 
100 Melbourne Street
South Brisbane  QLD   4101
Ph:    +61  7 3877 3399
Mobile:   0402 697 351
Email: joanne.ke...@coloradogroup.com.au


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-Original Message-
From: rt-users-boun...@lists.bestpractical.com 
[mailto:rt-users-boun...@lists.bestpractical.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Falcone
Sent: Wednesday, 13 July 2011 8:01 AM
To: rt-users@lists.bestpractical.com
Subject: Re: [rt-users] Custom Fields (Applies to Ticket Transactions) - not 
saving at ticket level

On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 09:55:21AM +1000, Joanne Keown wrote:
I'm obviously missing something.  I have created a number of custom fields 
 and set them as
applying to  Ticket Transactions, on the expectation that these would 
 allow me to capture
ticket data that I could both report on and update over a period of time.  
 However, I notice
that any data I captured against these is not being `saved' against the 
 ticket.

Ticket Transaction Custom Fields apply to Ticket Transactions.
They're displayed inline in the ticket history between the header and the 
content of the transaction.

If you want to save it against the ticket, you want Ticket Custom Fields.

You cannot search on Transaction Custom Fields, however all the data is 
available in the Database.

-kevin

I am getting the impression that, even though it's called Ticket 
 Transactions,  it's not
actually capturing the data at the ticket level and that my only option 
 might be to put all
these Custom Fields as applying to Tickets.  This option isn't desirable 
 as there will now
be over 20 Custom Fields on one page - quite overwhelming.  As this group 
 of cf's are designed
to capture process steps taken by our Customer Services staff in resolving 
 a ticket (also
capture notes and file attachments at stages), they provide a prompter as 
 to what step is next
in the resolution process and what stage the ticket is at.
 
 
 
Does anyone know of another way of separating the main ticket entry cf's 
 (Meta data) from the
transactional/workflow cf's?


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