[rtl] Re:

1999-11-17 Thread Bernhard Kuhn
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Due to RTLinux v2 is not stable yet, should I use RTLinux v1.x or v2?? My app doesn't have to perform complex tasks, only: Access I/O ports and serial port Comunnicate processes with FIFO's Which problems can I have using version 1.x??? I had a simple

Re: [rtl] SMP and RT-Linux.

2000-01-17 Thread Bernhard Kuhn
Michel Doyon wrote: I am looking for any documentation and/or examples that could help me to design software that would run under rt-linux with an smp machine. RTLinux and RTAI are ready for SMP. I tried both and they seemed to work just fine. But i suggest fixing the rt-task to a specific

[rtl] RTEC-0.3: added software interrupts

2000-01-09 Thread Bernhard Kuhn
RTEC-0.3 - a concurrent realtime task system 1. Changes to RTEC-0.2: 2. Introduction 3. API description 4. Download 5. Installation 1. Changes to RTEC-0.2: === o Timing Bugfix o Added soft-interrupt support o rearranged the

Re: [rtl] RTAI IS FREE

2000-03-07 Thread Bernhard Kuhn
Paolo Mantegazza wrote: The part stating it is proprietary is FALSE. Some marketing people understand it like this: non-standard == proprietary That's why many people think that the RedmondOSes arn't propietary, because they think they are standard ... :-) However: it's bull***t anyway :-)

Re: [rtl] the performance of linux run on MPC860

2000-03-29 Thread Bernhard Kuhn
Kulwinder Atwal wrote: shaolin zhang wrote: some result is: Linux pSOS VxWorks for(;;) for local variable: 0.52 usec/times 23.81 usec/times 4.79 usec/times for(;;) for global variable: 0.48 usec/times 9.58

Re: [rtl] Power-Up and shutdown

2000-04-09 Thread Bernhard Kuhn
Vernon Van Steenkist wrote: 1) I need my device to be active 5 seconds after power-up. Can Linux come up that quickly? Depends on the BIOS ... but usualy, EmbeddedPCs can´t be up and running that fast. Linux itself can be downsized to operate within a few seconds. The AXIS-Web/ModemCam

Re: [rtl] RTLinux 2.0 tutorial/manual/documentation ?

2000-04-10 Thread Bernhard Kuhn
Bart Vandewoestyne wrote: i have to be able to measure with an accuracy of 0.001 micro sec. You mean 1 nanosecond? Independent from the operating system, this is not managable with the parallel-port of a PC, since each read access will take about one microsecond: the read has to go the way

Re: [rtl] Threads or Tasks?

2000-06-06 Thread Bernhard Kuhn
WORM wrote: I´ve been wondering during the last days, which are the differents between using threads and using tasks. Sorry for bothering you, but I can´t find the answer to this. The definition for both expression may vary, depending in which "computing-world" you are living in :-) So i

Re: [rtl] Soft Real Time

2000-06-24 Thread Bernhard Kuhn
Herman Bruyninckx wrote: We have a control problem in which we need a simple controller to run at preferably 30 000 Hz... So, keeping everything in cache is really needed... 30 KHz is ok, as long as some events can be missed or jitters in the range of the period are ok. Otherwise you might

Re: [rtl] Soft Real Time

2000-06-25 Thread Bernhard Kuhn
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We have an experimental RTL V3 with an option to turn off Linux on one PC. Measured latencies are very low -- but this is early code. If you are interested in testing please send email to me. Very interessting! I´d like to have a look at it, because i intend to

Re: [rtl] Soft Real Time

2000-06-25 Thread Bernhard Kuhn
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW: We are under enormous pressure from potential funders who argue that we need to abandon open source entirely to keep Lineo from simply riding us down. I expect RTAI in the future will have done PPC ports before RTLinux and etc. I'm attempting to manouver around

Re: [rtl] FSCK and power up

2000-06-30 Thread Bernhard Kuhn
Olaf Petzold wrote: I'm one of the people who havn't such luck. After a clean reboot, the contents of several source files was merged, so I found contents from file a.c inside file b.c and so on. This experience is less than an half year hold. Maybee I did some wrong things but, the install

Re: [rtl] DGA graphic access

2000-08-22 Thread Bernhard Kuhn
Arnaud Adell wrote: I would like to know if anyone know where I can find a documentation on the DGA (direct graphic access) to be able to use it to increase the speed of displaying sequences of images. IMHO, DGA is not what you are looking for. For many applications X is just fine, but

Re: [rtl] Draft of ``Real Time and Embedded HOWTO''

2000-08-31 Thread Bernhard Kuhn
Hi Herman! Overall, you did a good Job, but i strongly disagree with some statements in chapter 3.2: The Linux kernel that supports a typical desktop computer is quickly more than 1 megabytes large. And that does not include the memory taken up by the Linux tools and the users' applications

Re: [rtl] RTAI and RTLinux

2000-09-01 Thread Bernhard Kuhn
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let's say I have N message buffers in a pool. What if there is no more free buffer? Then the design for your hard real time system was wrong :-) Bernhard -- [rtl] --- To unsubscribe: echo "unsubscribe rtl" | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] OR echo "unsubscribe rtl Your_email"

Re: [rtl] Draft of ``Real Time and Embedded HOWTO''

2000-09-01 Thread Bernhard Kuhn
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: x86 MiniRTL fits on a floppy and runs in 4Meg. Sure, but IMHO that was not was Herman is thinking of. I am sure, he is talking about stuff like engine control systems, heaters, fluid-controllers - stuff were usualy a bare C-Coded 8051 is quite enough. But today, evene

Re: [rtl] Example code for servo motors on parallel port...

2000-10-31 Thread Bernhard Kuhn
Arne Linder schrieb: http://www.linux-magazin.de/ausgabe/1998/11/Rtlinux/rtlinux2.html As the article is based on RT-Linux v1.x, i have updated the software for 2.2 (the hardware and its description is still valid): ftp://ftp.linux-magazin.de/pub/devel/rtlinux/pwmdemos-19991221.tgz This

Re: [rtl] RTLinux + UMLinux ???

2000-11-03 Thread Bernhard Kuhn
Denis Karpov schrieb: is it possible to run RTLinux in User Mode Linux I didn´t tried it, but it´s rather unlikly that it will run: the UML-Kernel is patched in the areas of memory management, process scheduling and interrupt-handling in order to be able to run as usual application. I doubt

[rtl] Synchronisation point in Disney World?

2000-11-22 Thread Bernhard Kuhn
Hi! I could imagine that some readers of this list(s) will be present at the real time linux workshop next monday. Coming from europe, i only got a flight for saturday. If there are more people arriving on the weekend, may be we could group up, not to spend the whole sunday each alone in the

Re: [rtl] OpenGL?

2001-01-15 Thread Bernhard Kuhn
marco zoncu schrieb: Is it possible to use OpenGL libraries in a rtlinux task? Don't try this at home! :-) To be serious: IMHO it is not necessary to use rtlinux or rtai to do this kind of jobs, nor these hard real time implementations are intended for stuff like this ... What you need is

Linux/RT availability, was: Re: [rtl] OpenGL?

2001-01-18 Thread Bernhard Kuhn
Sven Garbade schrieb: Dont know if you mean this: http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~rajkumar/linux-rk.html#Download Exactly, but this is the stinky old version of Linux/RT formerly called Linux/RK. At least, half of the problem is solved. The correct path to version 1.1A is

Re: [rtl] OpenGL?

2001-01-18 Thread Bernhard Kuhn
David Olofson schrieb: Correctly, but we were discusing about visualization using OpenGL :-) Yes, but even some games and other heavy multimedia applications stream from disk and/or various forms of dynamic loading of world data. One reason to do that is to reduce loading times, so one

[rtl] Article about RTL/RTAI licence and patent situation

2001-02-17 Thread Bernhard Kuhn
Hi everybody! Due to the fact that the industry gets more and more interessted in RT-Linux and RTAI, but also gets more and more distracted (because of the ongoing discussions), i intend to write a clearifing article about the licencing situation concerning both implementations. Downbelow, you

[rtl] [Update] licences and patents

2001-02-19 Thread Bernhard Kuhn
Hi everybody! First of all, thank you for your input ... makes things much clearer now! No legal actions prepared = Although there were some roumors and signs, i am very happy to tell you that neither Victor nor Paolo intend to do legal actions against each other:

Re: [rtl] Linux equivalents to pthread_make_periodic_np and pthread_suspend_np

2001-04-13 Thread Bernhard Kuhn
David Schleef schrieb: It can be duplicated using something similar to the attached file. select() is not bad, but you can't guarantee a stable period (means a delay is propagated to the following periods). For this reason, i prefer pthread_cond_timedwait() (see file attached). Suspending

Re: [Rtl]ATMEL 8051 8-bit + RTlinux

2002-10-21 Thread Bernhard Kuhn
Robert Schwebel schrieb: On Sun, Oct 20, 2002 at 02:53:07PM +0200, Bernhard Kuhn wrote: If you want to stick to 8 Bit Controller: forget about Linux! Hmm, 8 bit controllers work quite fine for realtime applications with Linux. Just connect your favourite PIC, AVR or whatever to some