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On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 10:10 AM, Tim Chevalier catamorph...@gmail.com wrote:
I've placed the list on full moderation for now
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With hope, the central package database (
https://github.com/mozilla/rust/issues/10041 ) will obviate the need
for this list, but in the meantime, let's maintain the list
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I'll still be on the mailing list and IRC channel, so this isn't
goodbye. If you're interested in what I'm up to next, I'll probably be
keeping track of it on my blog ( http://tim.dreamwidth.org/ ).
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Hi all--
I thought it was worth it to write up a wiki page with guidelines for
submitting Rust bugs:
https://github.com/mozilla/rust/wiki/HOWTO-submit-a-RUST-bug-report
Please edit and improve!
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Being
be in? Would one day work better than
another? I'll be in Santa Clara, CA, and I'm free all the evenings.
I'll be in Toronto; will anyone from the community be there?
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more questions (and I'll try
to answer them sooner :-)
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into a local
workspace that's in your RUST_PATH. Sorry about that!
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I don't know what the bug with the docs is, but in the meantime, you
can build without the docs by doing:
./configure --disable-docs
and then rebuilding.
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http://web.cecs.pdx.edu/~jgmorris/pubs/morris-icfp2010-instances.pdf
). One workaround is to use newtypes:
struct WrapperT { x: T }
...
impl T: Bar Foo for WrapperT { ...
and then there's no ambiguity.
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post -- perhaps someone has
even already written it! As far as existing code examples go,
extra::treemap might be a good one to study.
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This is a known bug: https://github.com/mozilla/rust/issues/3779
The fix, which you probably realized, is to change OptionFoo to
Option~Foo or Option@Foo.
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in the issue tracker --
https://github.com/mozilla/rust/issues?direction=desclabels=A-rustimilestone=page=1sort=createdstate=open
-- but I'm sure you will discover more issues to fix as you start
diving into the code.
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feel free to just leave a comment and ask if it's available to work
on.
Feel free to ping me on IRC (tjc) with questions.
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on how to fix this problem?
In Rust 0.7 you have to import standard library modules explicitly. If
you add the following line at the beginning:
use std::io;
it should compile.
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feel free to ask, I'm also on IRC
as Seldaek.
I'll take a look at Composer. Thanks for the feedback!
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rustpkg fetch URI
Planned -- see https://github.com/mozilla/rust/issues/7242
Also, I opened https://github.com/mozilla/rust/issues/7447 for Zack's
suggestions about versions.
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-copyable, even if its constructor
returns a Cat (and not a ~Cat).
Thanks for your interest!
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Attention Bros and Trolls: When I call out your spew, I'm not angry,
I'm defiant
in Haskell -- I found using higher-order functions
directly to be much more natural -- but that part is just my opinion.)
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Attention Bros and Trolls: When I call out
of the conference talk instead -- it will doubtless
benefit from feedback received during the practice talk :-)
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Attention Bros and Trolls: When I call out your spew, I'm
/ might be good for this, but many of
them are written in fairly old-style Rust.
Thanks in advance, and I'll certainly acknowledge in the talk anybody
who points me to a good example.
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) { ...
Of course, that means that at the call site, you will have to write
something like add_equal(mut c, copy c).
Unless you want to write a function that just takes one argument and
doubles it, like Abhijeet suggested, I don't know of another way
around this.
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-to-myself as a way of
signaling I intend to work on this, but more recently people have
implied that you should only take a bug when actively working on it.
Either is ok as long as it's made explicit).
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happened to be when I was in town, I'd be happy to show up!
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Attention Bros and Trolls: When I call out your spew, I'm
://genderqueerid.com/what-is-gq ).
If anyone wants to discuss this point further, please *reply sender*
and email me privately, rather than replying to the list.
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Too much to carry, too much to let go
Time goes fast, learning
mergeable attribute for this.
Thanks! I filed these enhancements in the bors issue tracker (which is
private right now for security reasons).
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Time goes fast, learning goes
(besides the ambiguity).
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to assist the borrow checker.
We removed it because in Rust, it was impractical to define an
easily-checkable pure subset of the language. Bringing it back in is
somewhat less likely than adding significant whitespace.
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Let's drop this thread, as per the code of conduct at
https://github.com/mozilla/rust/wiki/Note-development-policy :
Please keep unstructured critique to a minimum. If you have solid
ideas you want to experiment with, make a fork and see how it works.
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on upcall_fail , then you'll break at any point where your
program calls the fail!() macro or has an assertion failure arising
from assert!().
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. There is seldom a right answer.
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, there's a possibility (I can't
promise anything) that we could put our name on it, as Mozilla.
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I want something
more specific, actually.
Sounds good otherwise.
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On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Tim Chevalier catamorph...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 10:50 AM, Brian Anderson bander...@mozilla.com wrote:
Greetings, folks,
There was some discussion about bug triage in the meeting today so I went to
do some and was reminded of how frustrated I
.
-Graydon
Also I want to add `A-ui` - error messages, etc. seems to be one of the
things that `A-frontend` is useful for.
Don't we have A-diagnostics already for that, though?
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others point out other nits :-)
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when building the package.
I added this to the FAQ, btw:
https://github.com/mozilla/rust/wiki/Doc-usage-FAQ
and would welcome any suggestions from anyone as to how to organize
the FAQs on the wiki better; they're not the easiest thing to navigate
right now.
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decision about whether or not to go down this path. A lot of
the work for incremental compilation will likely also be useful for
parallelizing the compiler. So I don't see it as a waste of time.
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Too much
I suspect this is a borrowck bug (or at least shortcoming), but I
don't know the borrowck rules well enough to say for sure. I suggest
filing this code as an issue.
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We know there'd hardly be no one
believe the way to do this is to write:
let result = (self.code)();
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or need improvement. The list or
IRC is great for asking questions where you don't think there's a
compiler bug. So you're doing it right :-)
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Built for me without a hitch: Mac OS X 10.7.3, uname -a says: Darwin
Tims-MacBook-Pro.local 11.3.0 Darwin Kernel Version 11.3.0: Thu Jan 12
18:47:41 PST 2012; root:xnu-1699.24.23~1/RELEASE_X86_64 x86_64
SHA1(rust-0.5.tar.gz)= 7d818abf16c0061278658b8cfc6e0e0859885b5f
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, anybody could, on Google Groups). But for
now, please try to keep discussions on this list narrowly focused.
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'Wouldn't you rather be anything other than the kid who runs around
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of the
trait Text. Should the compiler produce a different message?
Yes, this is a compiler bug. Would you mind filling out an issue report at:
https://github.com/mozilla/rust/issues/new
? (Don't worry about any of the labels or fields; we'll take care of that.)
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/summary?doi=10.1.1.48.5674
(Interfaces have been renamed to traits in the soon-to-be-released
Rust 0.4 release, by the way; it looks like you may be looking at the
docs from Rust 0.3.)
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Gains in likability
blog posts that discuss a class keyword but I
wasn't able to make those examples run in 0.3.1. Do we only have impls
now?
The class keyword is deprecated; struct replaces class.
Feel free to ask again if you have more questions (or visit #rust on IRC).
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labelled break/continue form.
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was an enum. We got rid of this because
Patrick said it was too hard to implement in the context of resolve3.
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of progress.
Let's all try to be mindful of the happiness and productivity of
everyone else on the team :-)
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.
But as with everything we do, using it at your own risk and asking
questions on IRC is encouraged!
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power and
simplicity.
I'm not sure I understand -- Rust has nested modules, which are
actually more expressive than Haskell's module system. An example
might be good.
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Debate is useless when one participant
Since Niko is on vacation, I thought I would post link to the agenda
for tomorrow:
https://etherpad.mozilla.org/Meeting-weekly-2012-07-03
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Debate is useless when one participant denies the full dignity
this is not a change requiring
an RFC, as it's part of the long-standing class proposal, but I wanted
to check to see if anyone would object to me removing resources now.
If so, let me know.
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Debate is useless
control passes to the callee, it becomes deinitialized at the
call site. (Obviously, this means the caller has to pass an l-value.)
This does not seem to be documented, and should be.
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Debate is useless when
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“I cannot hide my anger to spare you guilt, nor hurt feelings, nor
answering anger; for to do so insults and trivializes all our efforts.
Guilt is not a response to anger; it is a response to one’s own
actions
variable names that shadow the name of a tag that's in scope.
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“I cannot hide my anger to spare you guilt, nor hurt feelings, nor
answering anger; for to do so insults and trivializes all our efforts.
Guilt
to the appropriate function.
I don't see there being any allocation? Remember that constant space
is one reason why tail calls are desirable.
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“I cannot hide my anger to spare you guilt, nor hurt feelings, nor
answering
and again.
This seems pretty reasonable; if you add support for this, I think my
first comment holds even more so :-)
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to *improve*
cache behavior: for example, Chilimbi and Larus, Using Generational
Garbage Collection To Implement Cache-Conscious Data Placement (ISMM
'98).
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an intelligent person fights for lost causes,realizing
work too -- that
is, specifying data layout -- but we'll have to do that anyway. This
would be a great exercise for a compiler verification framework, but
since we're not proving the compiler correct, the potential for
refcounting bugs makes me a bit nervous.
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