Re: [sage-combinat-devel] Design of combinatorial classes.

2010-01-21 Thread Florent Hivert
Dear Daniel, I was glad that you and Nicolas wrote the combinatorial classes notes last April. However, there wasn't any followup, so I wanted to check if the situation has changed at all since then. I recently got an email asking about my covering designs code, in which I had

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-release] sage-4.3.1 release

2010-01-21 Thread Minh Nguyen
Hi folks, Below is a release note for Sage 4.3.1, compiled with the help of Mike Hansen's script [1]. In this release, the lowest ticket number winner is #383, which is closed thanks to Robert Bradshaw and William Stein. Sage 4.3.1 was released on January 20th, 2010. It is available at

[sage-devel] Advices for debugging

2010-01-21 Thread Simon King
Hi! In the last couple of days I am on a bug hunt, so far without the faintest success. Perhaps you can help me with a Jedi mind intuition? It is about the next (not yet released) version of my cohomology spkg. If I compute the mod-2 cohomology ring of a certain non prime power group, it works

[sage-devel] Sage on Solaris + Frequency of public releases.

2010-01-21 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
I was a little disappointed that 4.3.1 was released, when I'd made it quite clear there was a *new* problem, introduced since 4.3, which was causing the build on Solaris SPARC to fail, despite earlier versions working on SPARC. http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/7990 (I marked it as a

Re: [sage-devel] Error building sage-4.3.1

2010-01-21 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Minh Nguyen wrote: Hi Dan, On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 3:26 PM, bump b...@match.stanford.edu wrote: I had errors building sage-4.3.1. Note this output from a configuration script (it's from the install log you posted): checking for g77... no checking for xlf... no checking for f77... no

Re: Re: [sage-devel] TOO LONG!

2010-01-21 Thread Martin Albrecht
On Thursday 21 January 2010, David Joyner wrote: I have run some of these tests on an imac running 10.6.2 in sage 4.3.1 (sage-4.3.1.a5, to be precise) and got what seems to be much shorter times (see below). I'm not sure but it seems that at least for the coding theory modules, there does not

Re: [sage-devel] Error building sage-4.3.1

2010-01-21 Thread Alex Ghitza
On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 12:08:09 +, Dr. David Kirkby david.kir...@onetel.net wrote: Though it would appear the log posted by Dan http://sporadic.stanford.edu/bump/sage-4.3.1-errors shows the compiler was configured with Fortran support: Configured with: ../src/configure -v

Re: [sage-devel] Error building sage-4.3.1

2010-01-21 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Alex Ghitza wrote: On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 12:08:09 +, Dr. David Kirkby david.kir...@onetel.net wrote: Though it would appear the log posted by Dan http://sporadic.stanford.edu/bump/sage-4.3.1-errors shows the compiler was configured with Fortran support: Configured with: ../src/configure

Re: [sage-devel] Error building sage-4.3.1

2010-01-21 Thread John Cremona
2010/1/21 Dr. David Kirkby david.kir...@onetel.net: Alex Ghitza wrote: On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 12:08:09 +, Dr. David Kirkby david.kir...@onetel.net wrote: Though it would appear the log posted by Dan http://sporadic.stanford.edu/bump/sage-4.3.1-errors shows the compiler was configured

[sage-devel] Re: Error building sage-4.3.1

2010-01-21 Thread bump
However, the error message was fairly clear as to what needs to be done: Error installing Fortran: You must install gfortran or set SAGE_FORTRAN (and possibly SAGE_FORTRAN_LIB). Yes, after installing gfortran I was able to build Sage. Dan -- To post to this group, send an email to

Re: [sage-devel] non-ASCII characters in the Sage library

2010-01-21 Thread Gonzalo Tornaria
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 3:22 AM, Pat LeSmithe qed...@gmail.com wrote: Should we put # -*- coding: utf-8 -*- at the top of all .py and .pyx(?) files in the Sage library? I think this will allow us to use Unicode literal strings in Sage code, doctests, documentation --- without raising

Re: [sage-devel] Error building sage-4.3.1

2010-01-21 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
John Cremona wrote: I think this is one further example of the point I made less than an hour ago. The removal of the Fortran package was made in sage-4.3.1.rc2, which very quickly becomes 4.3.1, with insufficient time given for testing before making the 4.3.1 release. I agree -- this is

[sage-devel] Re: non-ASCII characters in the Sage library

2010-01-21 Thread kcrisman
Not everyone can easily use a text editor which recognizes all non- ASCII character properly, so I think we should be careful about this. - kcrisman On Jan 21, 9:09 am, Gonzalo Tornaria torna...@math.utexas.edu wrote: On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 3:22 AM, Pat LeSmithe qed...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: Re: [sage-devel] TOO LONG!

2010-01-21 Thread David Joyner
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 7:20 AM, Martin Albrecht m...@informatik.uni-bremen.de wrote: On Thursday 21 January 2010, David Joyner wrote: I have run some of these tests on an imac running 10.6.2 in sage 4.3.1 (sage-4.3.1.a5, to be precise) and got what seems to be much shorter times (see below).

Re: [sage-devel] Re: sage-4.3.1.rc0 released!

2010-01-21 Thread Gonzalo Tornaria
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 5:47 PM, Peter Jeremy peterjer...@acm.org wrote: My personal feeling is that it would be nice if some of the more generic packages (eg bzip, zlib, readline, mercurial) were moved out of sage and made explicit requirements. +1 I think Sage is mature enough now to slowly

Re: [sage-devel] Re: non-ASCII characters in the Sage library

2010-01-21 Thread Gonzalo Tornaria
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 12:16 PM, kcrisman kcris...@gmail.com wrote: Not everyone can easily use a text editor which recognizes all non- ASCII character properly, so I think we should be careful about this. I don't think that's true anymore. It may have been true ten years ago, but nowadays

Re: [sage-devel] non-ASCII characters in the Sage library

2010-01-21 Thread William Stein
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 6:09 AM, Gonzalo Tornaria torna...@math.utexas.edu wrote: On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 3:22 AM, Pat LeSmithe qed...@gmail.com wrote: Should we put # -*- coding: utf-8 -*- at the top of all .py and .pyx(?) files in the Sage library? I think this will allow us to use

[sage-devel] showcasing your features in release tour of Sage 4.3.1

2010-01-21 Thread Minh Nguyen
Hi folks, The release tour for Sage 4.3.1 [1] is nearly complete. If you can help out with showcasing new features in Sage 4.3.1 in the release tour, please do so. In case I missed some new features, I appreciate your help in showcasing those new features. It would be good to have a second pair

[sage-devel] Re: Sage on Solaris + Frequency of public releases.

2010-01-21 Thread Bill Hart
On Jan 21, 11:53 am, Dr. David Kirkby david.kir...@onetel.net wrote: I was a little disappointed that 4.3.1 was released, when I'd made it quite clear there was a *new* problem, introduced since 4.3, which was causing the build on Solaris SPARC to fail, despite earlier versions working on

Re: Re: [sage-devel] TOO LONG!

2010-01-21 Thread William Stein
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 4:20 AM, Martin Albrecht m...@informatik.uni-bremen.de wrote: On Thursday 21 January 2010, David Joyner wrote: I have run some of these tests on an imac running 10.6.2 in sage 4.3.1 (sage-4.3.1.a5, to be precise) and got what seems to be much shorter times (see below).

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage on Solaris + Frequency of public releases.

2010-01-21 Thread William Stein
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 7:09 AM, Bill Hart goodwillh...@googlemail.com wrote: On Jan 21, 11:53 am, Dr. David Kirkby david.kir...@onetel.net wrote: I was a little disappointed that 4.3.1 was released, when I'd made it quite clear there was a *new* problem, introduced since 4.3, which was

[sage-devel] Re: showcasing your features in release tour of Sage 4.3.1

2010-01-21 Thread bump
I think #7729 implementing Iwahori Hecke algebras deserves comment. Dan On Jan 21, 7:02 am, Minh Nguyen nguyenmi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi folks, The release tour for Sage 4.3.1 [1] is nearly complete. If you can help out with showcasing new features in Sage 4.3.1 in the release tour, please

[sage-devel] Plea for review

2010-01-21 Thread mhampton
I would like to encourage people to review ticket 7109: http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/7109 This was originally submitted by Volker Braun, and I think it is his first contribution to Sage. It is an important refactoring of the polyhedra code in geometry/polyhedra.py. This rewrite is

Re: [sage-devel] Plea for review

2010-01-21 Thread William Stein
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 7:32 AM, mhampton hampto...@gmail.com wrote: I would like to encourage people to review ticket 7109: http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/7109 This was originally submitted by Volker Braun, and I think it is his first contribution to Sage.  It is an important

[sage-devel] Re: Sage on Solaris + Frequency of public releases.

2010-01-21 Thread Bill Hart
Ah, I see. I missed the scroll bar at the bottom. Even so it's a real fiddle to see which line is the problem. It appears to be complaining about a system include file which is supposed to test for features available on the system. Never seen that before, and I don't think it is FLINT after all.

[sage-devel] build and doctest results for Sage 4.3.1

2010-01-21 Thread Minh Nguyen
Hi folks, I have setup a wiki page [1] to record the building and doctesting results of Sage 4.3.1 on various platform/hardware combinations. Feel free to add more results to that page. [1] http://wiki.sagemath.org/devel/BuildFarm/sage-4.3.1 -- Regards Minh Van Nguyen -- To post to this

Re: [sage-devel] Re: echelon_form calculated over the fraction field

2010-01-21 Thread Nicolas M. Thiery
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 02:02:05PM -0800, Jason Grout wrote: William Stein wrote: I argue for keeping the current design when I'm *doing* math. I argue for changing echelon_form to return something over the fraction field when I'm teaching undergraduates. +1 Luckily enough, in France, the

Re: [sage-devel] Error building sage-4.3.1

2010-01-21 Thread John Cremona
I am less unhappy now, having managed to install gfortran. (There was something broken in our ubuntu package management system, but I managed to fix it luckily). John 2010/1/21 Dr. David Kirkby david.kir...@onetel.net: John Cremona wrote: I think this is one further example of the point I

[sage-devel] sage -upgrade

2010-01-21 Thread William Stein
Hi, WARNING: On Linux, if you do sage -upgrade right now, you may need to do ./sage -f numpy-1.3.0.p2.spkg scipy_sandbox-20071020.p4.spkg scipy-0.7.p3.spkg (or something very similar) to force rebuild of some code that depends on fortran libraries. See

[sage-devel] Re: Sage on Solaris + Frequency of public releases.

2010-01-21 Thread brandon.bar...@gmail.com
The OpenSolaris development repository seems to have a release cycle of two weeks, but they have a source release or build which is made available for internal testing (and whoever wants to test it badly enough to build and install it themselves) roughly two weeks before each release. From a user

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage on Solaris + Frequency of public releases.

2010-01-21 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Bill Hart wrote: On Jan 21, 11:53 am, Dr. David Kirkby david.kir...@onetel.net wrote: I was a little disappointed that 4.3.1 was released, when I'd made it quite clear there was a *new* problem, introduced since 4.3, which was causing the build on Solaris SPARC to fail, despite earlier

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage on Solaris + Frequency of public releases.

2010-01-21 Thread William Stein
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 8:22 AM, brandon.bar...@gmail.com brandon.bar...@gmail.com wrote: The OpenSolaris development repository seems to have a release cycle of two weeks, but they have a source release or build which is made available for internal testing (and whoever wants to test it badly

Re: [sage-devel] Error building sage-4.3.1

2010-01-21 Thread William Stein
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 8:26 PM, bump b...@match.stanford.edu wrote: I had errors building sage-4.3.1. The trouble came after this warning: sage-spkg fortran-20100118 21 Warning: Attempted to overwrite SAGE_ROOT environment variable fortran-20100118 Eventually I got: Error installing

Re: [sage-devel] TOO LONG!

2010-01-21 Thread Nicolas M. Thiery
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 01:54:57PM -0800, Robert Miller wrote: It's time to point our fingers at long doctests again. (I won't name names, but there are a few people who are mostly responsible for several of these files) Here are the eight files whose doctests (without -long) take the longest:

Re: [sage-devel] Re: showcasing your features in release tour of Sage 4.3.1

2010-01-21 Thread John Cremona
Is there any reason why my password for logging into the wiki has stopped working? John 2010/1/21 bump b...@match.stanford.edu: I think #7729 implementing Iwahori Hecke algebras deserves comment. Dan On Jan 21, 7:02 am, Minh Nguyen nguyenmi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi folks, The release tour

Re: [sage-devel] Re: showcasing your features in release tour of Sage 4.3.1

2010-01-21 Thread William Stein
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 9:02 AM, John Cremona john.crem...@gmail.com wrote: Is there any reason why my password for logging into the wiki has stopped working? I can't think of any. Mine still works. Maybe you forgot it? John 2010/1/21 bump b...@match.stanford.edu: I think #7729

Re: Re: [sage-devel] TOO LONG!

2010-01-21 Thread Robert Miller
William wrote: It's possible he didn't set the DOT_SAGE environment variable to something in /scratch, which will impact timings hugely (at least until somebody rewrites Sage temp file code in misc/misc.py to use the standard tempfile module). DOT_SAGE was set to /scratch/rlm/.sage when I ran

Re: [sage-devel] Re: showcasing your features in release tour of Sage 4.3.1

2010-01-21 Thread John Cremona
2010/1/21 William Stein wst...@gmail.com: On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 9:02 AM, John Cremona john.crem...@gmail.com wrote: Is there any reason why my password for logging into the wiki has stopped working? I can't think of any.  Mine still works.  Maybe you forgot it? I certainly had! but

Re: Re: [sage-devel] TOO LONG!

2010-01-21 Thread William Stein
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 9:10 AM, Robert Miller r...@rlmiller.org wrote: William wrote: It's possible he didn't set the DOT_SAGE environment variable to something in /scratch, which will impact timings hugely (at least until somebody rewrites Sage temp file code in misc/misc.py to use the

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage on Solaris + Frequency of public releases.

2010-01-21 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
William Stein wrote: On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 8:22 AM, brandon.bar...@gmail.com brandon.bar...@gmail.com wrote: The OpenSolaris development repository seems to have a release cycle of two weeks, but they have a source release or build which is made available for internal testing (and whoever

[sage-devel] Re: Plea for review

2010-01-21 Thread mhampton
OK, I added a referee patch. -Marshall On Jan 21, 9:38 am, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 7:32 AM, mhampton hampto...@gmail.com wrote: I would like to encourage people to review ticket 7109: http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/7109 This was originally

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-release] sage -upgrade

2010-01-21 Thread Jaap Spies
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 5:21 PM, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, WARNING: On Linux, if you do sage -upgrade right now, you may need to do  ./sage -f numpy-1.3.0.p2.spkg scipy_sandbox-20071020.p4.spkg scipy-0.7.p3.spkg (or something very similar) to force rebuild of some code

Re: Re: [sage-devel] TOO LONG!

2010-01-21 Thread Robert Miller
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 9:20 AM, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: If the problem really is the filesystem, then maybe /scratch is way too slow. Can you try setting DOT_SAGE to something in /tmp or /space, since /tmp could be far better than /scratch for large numbers of accesses. I just

[sage-devel] Re: TOO LONG!

2010-01-21 Thread mhampton
Well then perhaps we should have a -very_long flag! I would think that some very long doctests stress-test things in a way that may be impossible with shorter tests - large memory usage for example. -Marshall On Jan 21, 1:03 pm, Robert Miller r...@rlmiller.org wrote: On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage on Solaris + Frequency of public releases.

2010-01-21 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Jan 21, 2010, at 8:37 AM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: It looks like the exact same version of FLINT, which did work in Sage 4.3, no longer works in 4.3.1. I can't imagine what the problem is. (Guess: too much fiddling with the Sage build system.) There's also no patch to fix the issue

Re: [sage-devel] Re: TOO LONG!

2010-01-21 Thread Robert Miller
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 11:29 AM, mhampton hampto...@gmail.com wrote: Well then perhaps we should have a -very_long flag!  I would think that some very long doctests stress-test things in a way that may be impossible with shorter tests - large memory usage for example. -Marshall +1! --

Re: [sage-devel] Re: sage-4.3.1.rc0 released!

2010-01-21 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Jan 21, 2010, at 6:31 AM, Gonzalo Tornaria wrote: On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 5:47 PM, Peter Jeremy peterjer...@acm.org wrote: My personal feeling is that it would be nice if some of the more generic packages (eg bzip, zlib, readline, mercurial) were moved out of sage and made explicit

[sage-devel] graph editor -- devel doc

2010-01-21 Thread William Stein
Hi, The new graph editor in sage by Rado is AWESOME. One can try it easily at http://sagenb.org by typing: g = graphs.CompleteGraph(10) graph_editor(g) The actual source code is at local/lib/python/site-packages/sagenb-0.6-py2.6.egg/sagenb/data/graph_editor/ It would be *GREAT* if

Re: [sage-devel] graph editor -- devel doc

2010-01-21 Thread David Roe
I agree that it's awesome. I'm not sure if I'm using it right though. If I remove a vertex from Williams example below, and then click Save, it changes the cell, but the graph that it then creates is the same as before I removed the vertex. The same problem seems to occur for most changes I

[sage-devel] Re: graph editor -- devel doc

2010-01-21 Thread kcrisman
On Jan 21, 3:22 pm, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, The new graph editor in sage by Rado is AWESOME.  One can try it +1 ! We had a lot of fun showing it off to people at the Joint Meetings. - kcrisman -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To

[sage-devel] Re: graph editor -- devel doc

2010-01-21 Thread Rado
Glad you liked it. I will write up the README in the next few days. The spring layout definitely can be improved as I put in the first thing that came to mind, but I know those things have been studied and there are advanced algorithms. Eventually the sliders can be removed if the algorithm is

Re: [sage-devel] Re: sage-4.3.1.rc0 released!

2010-01-21 Thread William Stein
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 12:05 PM, Robert Bradshaw rober...@math.washington.edu wrote: On Jan 21, 2010, at 6:31 AM, Gonzalo Tornaria wrote: On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 5:47 PM, Peter Jeremy peterjer...@acm.org wrote: My personal feeling is that it would be nice if some of the more generic

[sage-devel] Build failed sage-4.3.1

2010-01-21 Thread Erik Lane
Issues with the install: README.txt needs updating. At least for Ubuntu ranlib doesn't show up as an option for apt-get, but it is part of the binutils package. Also needs to be updated re: the new requirements for gfortran. It still lists the old info. GCC needs to be all lowercase for apt-get

Re: [sage-devel] Build failed sage-4.3.1

2010-01-21 Thread William Stein
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 1:15 PM, Erik Lane erikl...@gmail.com wrote: Issues with the install: README.txt needs updating. At least for Ubuntu ranlib doesn't show up as an option for apt-get, but it is part of the binutils package. Also needs to be updated re: the new requirements for gfortran.

Re: [sage-devel] Build failed sage-4.3.1

2010-01-21 Thread Minh Nguyen
Hi Erik, On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 8:15 AM, Erik Lane erikl...@gmail.com wrote: Issues with the install: README.txt needs updating. At least for Ubuntu ranlib doesn't show up as an option for apt-get, but it is part of the binutils package. Also needs to be updated re: the new requirements for

Re: [sage-devel] spam content has got through to the Sage wiki

2010-01-21 Thread William Stein
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 10:06 PM, Minh Nguyen nguyenmi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Robert, On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 6:38 AM, Robert Bradshaw rober...@math.washington.edu wrote: SNIP The single bad account can be deleted. Now there is another spammer account with the username Robert. The

[sage-devel] Re: graph editor -- devel doc

2010-01-21 Thread Rado
Hi David, I couldn't reproduce that bug. One thing comes to mind is to note what is written in the box variable name. The js editor and Sage communicate only when you hit save and all that happens in that the graph in the editor is saved under the name in variable name box. When you say Save

Re: [sage-devel] Re: graph editor -- devel doc

2010-01-21 Thread David Roe
It seemed to be only associated to that cell: if I took the generated code, copied it into another cell and then made changes in the other cell, the changes saved correctly. I tried publishing the worksheet, but that seemed to change the state of the cell sufficiently so that I can no longer

Re: [sage-devel] graph editor -- devel doc

2010-01-21 Thread Pat LeSmithe
On 01/21/2010 12:22 PM, William Stein wrote: local/lib/python/site-packages/sagenb-0.6-py2.6.egg/sagenb/data/graph_editor/ It would be *GREAT* if there were a README.txt file in that directory that explained what all the js files actually are, something about how the graph editor works,

[sage-devel] Re: SAGE future add-in recommendation

2010-01-21 Thread Maurizio
On 21 Gen, 00:22, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 1:33 PM, Maurizio maurizio.gran...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, even if in the recent times I've been much less involved with SAGE, I just wanted to point out two pieces of software that I hope could become

Re: [sage-devel] graph editor -- devel doc

2010-01-21 Thread William Stein
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 2:14 PM, Pat LeSmithe qed...@gmail.com wrote: On 01/21/2010 12:22 PM, William Stein wrote:     local/lib/python/site-packages/sagenb-0.6-py2.6.egg/sagenb/data/graph_editor/ It would be *GREAT* if there were a README.txt file in that directory that explained what all

[sage-devel] Re: Plea for review

2010-01-21 Thread Andrey Novoseltsev
I'll look over the referee patch. Andrey On Jan 21, 10:50 am, mhampton hampto...@gmail.com wrote: OK, I added a referee patch. -Marshall On Jan 21, 9:38 am, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 7:32 AM, mhampton hampto...@gmail.com wrote: I would like to

Re: [sage-devel] Build failed sage-4.3.1

2010-01-21 Thread Erik Lane
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 1:31 PM, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 1:15 PM, Erik Lane erikl...@gmail.com wrote: Issues with the install: README.txt needs updating. At least for Ubuntu ranlib doesn't show up as an option for apt-get, but it is part of the

Re: [sage-devel] Build failed sage-4.3.1

2010-01-21 Thread Erik Lane
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 1:41 PM, Minh Nguyen nguyenmi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Erik, On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 8:15 AM, Erik Lane erikl...@gmail.com wrote: Issues with the install: README.txt needs updating. At least for Ubuntu ranlib doesn't show up as an option for apt-get, but it is

Re: [sage-devel] Build failed sage-4.3.1

2010-01-21 Thread Erik Lane
Post it where? Here to the list? Should I assume that what holds true for Ubuntu is more general, or just make notes in the text that let people know that on Ubuntu that's the way it is? (Because that's all I have available to me.) I looked into it, and looks like it's very standard that

Re: [sage-devel] Build failed sage-4.3.1

2010-01-21 Thread Willem Jan Palenstijn
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 01:31:26PM -0800, William Stein wrote: We've hand-inspected the R failures and they are all because of missing optional R packages that we don't include with Sage. I also found out later that there's a new R spkg by kcrisman at #6532 (needs review) that should pass all

[sage-devel] Re: Plea for review

2010-01-21 Thread mhampton
Great, thanks! I just realized I didn't do my referee patch correctly, but I just added a new one that I think is correct. -Marshall On Jan 21, 4:58 pm, Andrey Novoseltsev novos...@gmail.com wrote: I'll look over the referee patch. Andrey On Jan 21, 10:50 am, mhampton hampto...@gmail.com

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage on Solaris + Frequency of public releases.

2010-01-21 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Robert Bradshaw wrote: On Jan 21, 2010, at 8:37 AM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: Having worked quite hard on the SPARC build, I was less than keen to see it broken. Yes, that is disappointing. I spent a fair amount of time trying to resolve the first Solaris stopper that came up, but who knows

Re: [sage-devel] non-ASCII characters in the Sage library

2010-01-21 Thread Minh Nguyen
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 4:22 PM, Pat LeSmithe qed...@gmail.com wrote: Should we put # -*- coding: utf-8 -*- at the top of all .py and .pyx(?) files in the Sage library? I think this will allow us to use Unicode literal strings in Sage code, doctests, documentation --- without raising

Re: [sage-devel] non-ASCII characters in the Sage library

2010-01-21 Thread Gonzalo Tornaria
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 12:46 AM, Minh Nguyen nguyenmi...@gmail.com wrote: With or without the above Unicode preamble, a non-ASCII character in a docstring can cause the PDF version of a document to fail to build. See ticket #8036 [1] for an example of a case where a source file contains the

Re: [sage-devel] Re: sage-4.3.1.rc0 released!

2010-01-21 Thread Gonzalo Tornaria
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Robert Bradshaw rober...@math.washington.edu wrote: On Jan 21, 2010, at 6:31 AM, Gonzalo Tornaria wrote: On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 5:47 PM, Peter Jeremy peterjer...@acm.org wrote: My personal feeling is that it would be nice if some of the more generic packages

Re: [sage-devel] Re: sage-4.3.1.rc0 released!

2010-01-21 Thread Gonzalo Tornaria
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 7:11 PM, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: +1 to Robert's comments.  I can't tell you how many people just in the last few days have told me that they use (and work on!) Sage *only* because when they try to build it on their computer it just worked. Do people tell

Re: [sage-devel] Re: sage-4.3.1.rc0 released!

2010-01-21 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Gonzalo Tornaria wrote: Plus, there can *still* be spkgs for all the dependencies. And there could be a sage-with-batteries-included tarball which works just as it does now. And another sage-reduced-for-expert-developers-and-distros tarball which doesn't include the spkgs which can be replaced

Re: [sage-devel] Re: sage-4.3.1.rc0 released!

2010-01-21 Thread William Stein
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 8:09 PM, Gonzalo Tornaria torna...@math.utexas.edu wrote: I think Sage is mature enough now to slowly migrate toward this. Besides, there can still be spkgs for those packages, and there could be a sage-with-batteries-included tarball with dependencies included. What

Re: [sage-devel] Re: sage-4.3.1.rc0 released!

2010-01-21 Thread Gonzalo Tornaria
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 3:24 AM, Dr. David Kirkby david.kir...@onetel.net wrote: But sorting out whether the version of libraries on a system are suitable, can be tricky. Even having the right versions does not guarantee they will be found in preference to some other version. Sure. We already

Re: [sage-devel] Re: sage-4.3.1.rc0 released!

2010-01-21 Thread François Bissey
On Fri, 22 Jan 2010 19:27:56 Gonzalo Tornaria wrote: If you are only going to shave off 20 MB or so from the source code, it might be more hassle than it is worth. If you could cut the download time by 30%, then I could see it would probably be worth the effort in doing this. But I'm not

Re: [sage-devel] Re: sage-4.3.1.rc0 released!

2010-01-21 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Gonzalo Tornaria wrote: On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 3:24 AM, Dr. David Kirkby david.kir...@onetel.net wrote: But sorting out whether the version of libraries on a system are suitable, can be tricky. Even having the right versions does not guarantee they will be found in preference to some other

Re: [sage-devel] Re: sage-4.3.1.rc0 released!

2010-01-21 Thread William Stein
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 10:41 PM, Dr. David Kirkby david.kir...@onetel.net wrote: Gonzalo Tornaria wrote: On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 3:24 AM, Dr. David Kirkby david.kir...@onetel.net wrote: But sorting out whether the version of libraries on a system are suitable, can be tricky. Even having

[sage-devel] What is needed to build Sage ?

2010-01-21 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
I'm going to update the 'prereq' script to add a test for a Fortran compiler. I would like to know what we need. This is what is a quick summary of what is currently tested in 'prereq'. Is there anything else which should be added to this list. 1) Non GNU compilers permitted, but you need to