On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 9:43 PM, Bill Page bill.p...@newsynthesis.org wrote:
On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 11:02 PM, Craig Citro wrote:
Indeed, even Python agrees:
Python 3.0 (r30:67503, Jan 23 2009, 04:39:45)
[GCC 4.2.4 (Ubuntu 4.2.4-1ubuntu3)] on linux2
Type help, copyright, credits or
On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 8:06 PM, Pat LeSmithe qed...@gmail.com wrote:
In Sage 3.4 (and 3.2.3), I think there are two typos in the file
$SAGE_ROOT/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/sage/server/notebook/css.py .
In particular, in Sage 3.4's version of the file:
line 572: arial monospace
On Mar 14, 2009, at 1:21 AM, William Stein wrote:
Hi,
Sage Days 14 in Berkeley happened... and it turned out to be awesome!
See http://wiki.sagemath.org/days14 for links to notes from the
conference.
I found this page particularly interesting
http://wiki.sagemath.org/days14/what
-
Pat LeSmithe wrote:
In Sage 3.4 (and 3.2.3), I think there are two typos in the file
$SAGE_ROOT/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/sage/server/notebook/css.py .
In particular, in Sage 3.4's version of the file:
line 572: arial monospace should be arial, monospace
line 1072: zIndex
Hi,
Sage Days 13 also happened recently (http://wiki.sagemath.org/days13).
I just posted my photos here:
http://picasaweb.google.com/wstein/SageDays13Georgia
--
William Stein
Associate Professor of Mathematics
University of Washington
http://wstein.org
On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 5:00 PM, David Kohel drko...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
I am finding problems, holes, or missing features in power series
rings
and Laurent series rings.
sage: K.u = LaurentSeriesRing(QQ)
sage: R.t = PowerSeriesRing(QQ)
1. exp(t) is defined but exp(u) is not.
2.
On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 11:59 AM, Nicolas M. Thiery
nicolas.thi...@u-psud.fr wrote:
Hi Mike,
FYI, I just noticed this.
sage: attrcall?
sage: f = attrcall(bla)
sage: dumps(f)
On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 1:26 AM, Nicolas M. Thiery
nicolas.thi...@u-psud.fr wrote:
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 09:10:43PM -0700, Robert Bradshaw wrote:
- I see 10*bla as (potentially) involving two independent things:
coercion and multiple dispatch
Yep, though in my mind they're a bit
Hi Florent, the installation instructions changed (updated
instructions should have been printed on sage -f). You should just
now need:
Oups !!! Sorry I should have read more carefully. Thanks for your quick help
and your work.
Florent
I have a small request. Often, I click a link to go to a trac ticket,
and while I'm there, I want to make a comment or add myself to the CC
list. However, I'm rarely logged in at that point. With the old
version of trac, I could just click on the login button, type my
username and
On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 9:43 PM, Bill Page wrote:
Not that this really has much to do with computer algebra or
mathematics per se, but I am curious if anyone can find a situation in
pure Python (i.e. using only the standard Python library definitions
for == ) that gives the following
On Sat, 14 Mar 2009 07:26:15 -0500
Jason Grout jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote:
I have a small request. Often, I click a link to go to a trac
ticket, and while I'm there, I want to make a comment or add myself
to the CC list. However, I'm rarely logged in at that point. With
the old
Dear Nick,
Thanks... I've also some suggestions:
1) Could it be possible that the send-* command launch a sage if no one is
launched ?
2) There are two variable sage-run-command and sage-rerun-command. Is there
any use for that ? Right now if either if I set the first one by hand as
Hi!
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 3:38 AM, William Stein wrote:
teragon:papers wstein$ sage -python
Python 2.5.2 (r252:60911, Mar 12 2009, 23:58:30)
[GCC 4.0.1 (Apple Inc. build 5488)] on darwin
Type help, copyright, credits or license for more information.
a = 10**22; b = 10**22+1; c =
Nicolas M. Thiery nicolas.thi...@u-psud.fr writes:
Well, maybe we could join forces, and write a paper coercion and
dispatch in Sage and MuPAD. Having more than one implementation of
the concept would even make it a standard :-)
Maybe it's even possible to include the FriCAS coercion system,
Hi,
Lucio Lastra made a new Sage liveCD, and made complete instructions
for how he did it. With
his permission I'm forwarded his instructions to this list.
William
-- Forwarded message --
From: Lucio Lastra luciolas...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 3:52 PM
Subject:
Simon King k...@mathematik.uni-jena.de writes:
Since the topic now changed into is Sage implementing Mathematics:
IMHO it is frankly impossible for *any* CAS to implement a
mathematically meaningful notion of == that is both useful and
rigorous.
This is certainly not true. The point is
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 5:26 AM, Jason Grout
jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote:
I have a small request. Often, I click a link to go to a trac ticket,
and while I'm there, I want to make a comment or add myself to the CC
list. However, I'm rarely logged in at that point. With the old
The tar file
http://www.sagemath.org/bin/linux/64bit/sage-3.4-linux-Fedora_release_10_Cambridge-x86_64-Linux.tar.gz
is missing big chunks of Sage (for instance, there's nothing in
local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/Jinja*). (The tar file is about
40MB smaller than other 64-bit Linux builds, so
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 9:43 AM, mabshoff mabsh...@googlemail.com wrote:
On Mar 14, 8:20 am, Carl Witty carl.wi...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Carl,
The tar
filehttp://www.sagemath.org/bin/linux/64bit/sage-3.4-linux-Fedora_release...
is missing big chunks of Sage (for instance, there's nothing
Hi,
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 06:26:53 -0800 (PST)
mabshoff mabsh...@googlemail.com wrote:
snip
So if you encounter timeouts and they are clearly not caused by a slow
system please do the following.
First
export SAGE_PEXPECT_LOG=yes
I attached a log from a test instance that timed out with
Hi,
If you're at the Arizona Winter School
(http://swc.math.arizona.edu/index.html) right now, please subscribe
to
http://groups.google.com/group/aws09
William
--
William Stein
Associate Professor of Mathematics
University of Washington
http://wstein.org
Dear Martin,
On 14 Mrz., 16:08, Martin Rubey martin.ru...@math.uni-hannover.de
wrote:
IMHO it is frankly impossible for *any* CAS to implement a
mathematically meaningful notion of == that is both useful and
rigorous.
This is certainly not true. The point is that you have to make
As discussed at
http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel/browse_thread/thread/b1a03f8fc8ae8fcd/553773d7ba600ae7#553773d7ba600ae7
, I'm writing a patch to deprecate calling symbolic expressions
without variable names.
In the course of writing the patch, and subsequent discussions with
Jason and
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 10:29 AM, Carl Witty carl.wi...@gmail.com wrote:
As discussed at
http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel/browse_thread/thread/b1a03f8fc8ae8fcd/553773d7ba600ae7#553773d7ba600ae7
, I'm writing a patch to deprecate calling symbolic expressions
without variable names.
William Stein wrote:
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 10:29 AM, Carl Witty carl.wi...@gmail.com wrote:
2) plotting
A lot of the plotting code is willing to pick variable names (in
alphabetical order) if names aren't given in the plot ranges.
For instance, this is a doctest in plot.py:
sage: f =
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 11:09 AM, Jason Grout
jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote:
William Stein wrote:
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 10:29 AM, Carl Witty carl.wi...@gmail.com wrote:
2) plotting
A lot of the plotting code is willing to pick variable names (in
alphabetical order) if names aren't
William Stein wrote:
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 11:09 AM, Jason Grout
jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote:
William Stein wrote:
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 10:29 AM, Carl Witty carl.wi...@gmail.com wrote:
2) plotting
A lot of the plotting code is willing to pick variable names (in
alphabetical
On Mar 14, 11:12 am, David Perkinson dav...@reed.edu wrote:
Using Sage 3.4, sage -i 4ti2-20061025 does not work for me. I have
attached the relevant section of install.log.
Dave
Somewhere in 4ti2 you need to
#include limits.h
to work around gcc 4.3 header problems. I guess someone
On Mar 14, 11:21 am, mabshoff mabsh...@googlemail.com wrote:
On Mar 14, 11:12 am, David Perkinson dav...@reed.edu wrote:
Using Sage 3.4, sage -i 4ti2-20061025 does not work for me. I have
attached the relevant section of install.log.
Dave
Somewhere in 4ti2 you need to
#include
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 10:49 AM, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 10:29 AM, Carl Witty carl.wi...@gmail.com wrote:
1) Piecewise functions:
With my initial patch,
sage: f = Piecewise([[(-1,1),1/2+x-x^3]])
doesn't work (that is, you get deprecation errors when
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 11:18 AM, Jason Grout
jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote:
William Stein wrote:
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 11:09 AM, Jason Grout
jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote:
William Stein wrote:
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 10:29 AM, Carl Witty carl.wi...@gmail.com wrote:
2) plotting
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 11:18 AM, Jason Grout
jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote:
William Stein wrote:
Well then we disagree. There is a very standard convention in math to
have the x axis in one spot, then the y-axis.
What happens when you have variables u and v? Or a and b? Or t and s
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 11:27 AM, Carl Witty carl.wi...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 10:49 AM, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 10:29 AM, Carl Witty carl.wi...@gmail.com wrote:
1) Piecewise functions:
With my initial patch,
sage: f =
On Sat, 14 Mar 2009 13:18:40 -0500
Jason Grout jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote:
William Stein wrote:
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 11:09 AM, Jason Grout
jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote:
William Stein wrote:
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 10:29 AM, Carl Witty
carl.wi...@gmail.com wrote:
2)
Carl Witty wrote:
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 11:18 AM, Jason Grout
jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote:
William Stein wrote:
Well then we disagree. There is a very standard convention in math to
have the x axis in one spot, then the y-axis.
What happens when you have variables u and v? Or a
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Burcin Erocal bur...@erocal.org wrote:
On Sat, 14 Mar 2009 13:18:40 -0500
Jason Grout jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote:
William Stein wrote:
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 11:09 AM, Jason Grout
jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote:
William Stein wrote:
On
William Stein wrote:
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Burcin Erocal bur...@erocal.org wrote:
On Sat, 14 Mar 2009 13:18:40 -0500
Jason Grout jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote:
William Stein wrote:
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 11:09 AM, Jason Grout
jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote:
William
On Sat, 14 Mar 2009 11:45:13 -0700
William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Burcin Erocal bur...@erocal.org
wrote:
On Sat, 14 Mar 2009 13:18:40 -0500
Jason Grout jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote:
William Stein wrote:
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 11:52 AM, Jason Grout
jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote:
William Stein wrote:
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Burcin Erocal bur...@erocal.org wrote:
On Sat, 14 Mar 2009 13:18:40 -0500
Jason Grout jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote:
William Stein wrote:
On Sat, Mar
Jason Grout wrote:
William Stein wrote:
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Burcin Erocal bur...@erocal.org wrote:
On Sat, 14 Mar 2009 13:18:40 -0500
Jason Grout jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote:
William Stein wrote:
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 11:09 AM, Jason Grout
jason-s...@creativetrax.com
William Stein wrote:
In particular, xmin/xmax also would have to be deprecated and replaced by
Mathematica's plot_ranges...
As a *former* Maple user I would prefer the syntax plot(expr, var = a..b)
Just joking, I can live with the proposal als long as it is (var, a, b)
and not {var, a, b}
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Jason Grout
jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote:
Jason Grout wrote:
William Stein wrote:
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Burcin Erocal bur...@erocal.org wrote:
On Sat, 14 Mar 2009 13:18:40 -0500
Jason Grout jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote:
William Stein
On Saturday 14 March 2009 02:45:13 pm William Stein wrote:
William, shall we treat the case where the only variables in the
expression is x and y specially, and allow not specifying the variables
for the axis then? I think this makes the notation confusing and
inconsistent.
I have never
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 12:10 PM, Joel B. Mohler j...@kiwistrawberry.us wrote:
On Saturday 14 March 2009 02:45:13 pm William Stein wrote:
William, shall we treat the case where the only variables in the
expression is x and y specially, and allow not specifying the variables
for the axis
Burcin Erocal wrote:
On Sat, 14 Mar 2009 11:45:13 -0700
William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote:
It is a similar situation for the plot commands. Many people have
complained about the inconsistencies in Sage's plotting interface.
Looking at MMA's plot commands, only this syntax is
On Mar 14, 2009, at 2:27 AM, William Stein wrote:
On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 1:26 AM, Nicolas M. Thiery
nicolas.thi...@u-psud.fr wrote:
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 09:10:43PM -0700, Robert Bradshaw wrote:
- I see 10*bla as (potentially) involving two independent things:
coercion and multiple
Looking at MMA's plot commands, only this syntax is accepted:
Plot[Sin[x], {x, 0, Pi}]
Note the explicit variable name.
I think we should try to make the syntax uniform for all the plot
functions, and ask the user to specify the variable in every case.
(This means deprecating the
Martin Rubey wrote:
I must admit that I do not understand (yet) how Sage works here,
but I thought it would define equality separately for every parent.
Doesn't it, or did I miss something?
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 1:25 PM, Simon King wrote:
... yes, Sage does.
But I wanted to point out
Dear David,
On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 05:00:55PM -0700, David Kohel wrote:
Hi,
I am finding problems, holes, or missing features in power series
rings
and Laurent series rings.
sage: K.u = LaurentSeriesRing(QQ)
sage: R.t = PowerSeriesRing(QQ)
...
+1 for making all of those,
David says in the docstring for a possible log() function TODO:
verify that the base ring is a QQ-algebra. Now I recall reading
(quite recent) papers of Morain et al on computing isogenies between
elliptic curves over finite fields where it is useful to be able to
take truncated logs of power
I think so. But then you should be working in a ring of truncated
power series
(i.e. k[x]/(x^a)). This seems conceptually different from working
in a ring of power series where you only know the elements up to
a given precision
On Mar 14, 9:53 pm, John Cremona john.crem...@gmail.com wrote:
To be honest, I'd have thought that installing a python package and
let it work with SAGE would have been easier, but one issue could be
that I've been working on this in a Saturday night (after coming back
home) from midnight to 1.30 am!! :)
I summarize the way I got quantities
Maurizio wrote:
To be honest, I'd have thought that installing a python package and
let it work with SAGE would have been easier, but one issue could be
that I've been working on this in a Saturday night (after coming back
home) from midnight to 1.30 am!! :)
I summarize the way I got
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 1:21 AM, Jason Grout
jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote:
Maurizio wrote:
With this, I'm not proposing this package over others (for example,
Unum looks very mature, but outdated), I'm just asking if one of you
can spend some minutes to review our trac ticket about
Looking at MMA's plot commands, only this syntax is accepted:
Plot[Sin[x], {x, 0, Pi}]
Note the explicit variable name.
I think we should try to make the syntax uniform for all the plot
functions, and ask the user to specify the variable in every case.
(This means deprecating the
I would vote for consistency over convenience every time. I am
forever forgetting the * for multiplication, but I'm glad the implicit-
multiplication feature has to be consciously turned on - and I don't
plan on ever turning it on. ;-)
I don't want to reopen the debate over the variable 'x'
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 02:22:01AM -0700, William Stein wrote:
On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 11:59 AM, Nicolas M. Thiery
nicolas.thi...@u-psud.fr wrote:
Hi Mike,
FYI, I just noticed this.
sage: attrcall?
sage: f = attrcall(bla)
sage: dumps(f)
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