Ronan Paixão wrote:
I agree. As a member of the non-math-teacher part of this list, I must
agree that plot(some_single_var_function_or_expression, 0, 1) should be
considered as valid input.
The original proposal by Carl said this would work (see point 3).
(well, he had parentheses around
I agree. As a member of the non-math-teacher part of this list, I must
agree that plot(some_single_var_function_or_expression, 0, 1) should be
considered as valid input.
The original proposal by Carl said this would work (see point 3).
(well, he had parentheses around the range, but it
kcrisman wrote:
I agree. As a member of the non-math-teacher part of this list, I must
agree that plot(some_single_var_function_or_expression, 0, 1) should be
considered as valid input.
The original proposal by Carl said this would work (see point 3).
(well, he had parentheses around the
On Monday 16 March 2009 12:27:10 pm kcrisman wrote:
sage: integrate(y^2)
---
TypeError Traceback (most recent call
last)
TypeError: cannot coerce type 'type
On Monday 16 March 2009 02:51:30 pm Joel B. Mohler wrote:
On Monday 16 March 2009 12:27:10 pm kcrisman wrote:
sage: integrate(y^2)
-
-- TypeError Traceback (most recent call
last)
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 12:03 PM, Joel B. Mohler j...@kiwistrawberry.us wrote:
On Monday 16 March 2009 02:51:30 pm Joel B. Mohler wrote:
On Monday 16 March 2009 12:27:10 pm kcrisman wrote:
sage: integrate(y^2)
-
--
On Mar 15, 2009, at 7:29 PM, Ronan Paixão wrote:
Em Dom, 2009-03-15 às 17:11 -0700, kcrisman escreveu:
Wouldn't it be clearer if the error message read
NameError: name 't' is not defined, try var('t') beforehand
or something similar?
Perhaps as Carl deprecates common anticipated
On Sat, 14 Mar 2009 14:10:32 -0500
Jason Grout jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote:
Burcin Erocal wrote:
On Sat, 14 Mar 2009 11:45:13 -0700
William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote:
It is a similar situation for the plot commands. Many people have
complained about the inconsistencies
Wouldn't it be clearer if the error message read
NameError: name 't' is not defined, try var('t') beforehand
or something similar?
Perhaps as Carl deprecates common anticipated behaviors he'd be open
to having his patch adjust the permanent error messages (not just the
deprecation
Em Dom, 2009-03-15 às 17:11 -0700, kcrisman escreveu:
Wouldn't it be clearer if the error message read
NameError: name 't' is not defined, try var('t') beforehand
or something similar?
Perhaps as Carl deprecates common anticipated behaviors he'd be open
to having his patch
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 10:29 AM, Carl Witty carl.wi...@gmail.com wrote:
As discussed at
http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel/browse_thread/thread/b1a03f8fc8ae8fcd/553773d7ba600ae7#553773d7ba600ae7
, I'm writing a patch to deprecate calling symbolic expressions
without variable names.
William Stein wrote:
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 10:29 AM, Carl Witty carl.wi...@gmail.com wrote:
2) plotting
A lot of the plotting code is willing to pick variable names (in
alphabetical order) if names aren't given in the plot ranges.
For instance, this is a doctest in plot.py:
sage: f =
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 11:09 AM, Jason Grout
jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote:
William Stein wrote:
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 10:29 AM, Carl Witty carl.wi...@gmail.com wrote:
2) plotting
A lot of the plotting code is willing to pick variable names (in
alphabetical order) if names aren't
William Stein wrote:
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 11:09 AM, Jason Grout
jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote:
William Stein wrote:
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 10:29 AM, Carl Witty carl.wi...@gmail.com wrote:
2) plotting
A lot of the plotting code is willing to pick variable names (in
alphabetical
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 10:49 AM, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 10:29 AM, Carl Witty carl.wi...@gmail.com wrote:
1) Piecewise functions:
With my initial patch,
sage: f = Piecewise([[(-1,1),1/2+x-x^3]])
doesn't work (that is, you get deprecation errors when
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 11:18 AM, Jason Grout
jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote:
William Stein wrote:
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 11:09 AM, Jason Grout
jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote:
William Stein wrote:
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 10:29 AM, Carl Witty carl.wi...@gmail.com wrote:
2) plotting
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 11:18 AM, Jason Grout
jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote:
William Stein wrote:
Well then we disagree. There is a very standard convention in math to
have the x axis in one spot, then the y-axis.
What happens when you have variables u and v? Or a and b? Or t and s
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 11:27 AM, Carl Witty carl.wi...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 10:49 AM, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 10:29 AM, Carl Witty carl.wi...@gmail.com wrote:
1) Piecewise functions:
With my initial patch,
sage: f =
On Sat, 14 Mar 2009 13:18:40 -0500
Jason Grout jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote:
William Stein wrote:
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 11:09 AM, Jason Grout
jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote:
William Stein wrote:
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 10:29 AM, Carl Witty
carl.wi...@gmail.com wrote:
2)
Carl Witty wrote:
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 11:18 AM, Jason Grout
jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote:
William Stein wrote:
Well then we disagree. There is a very standard convention in math to
have the x axis in one spot, then the y-axis.
What happens when you have variables u and v? Or a
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Burcin Erocal bur...@erocal.org wrote:
On Sat, 14 Mar 2009 13:18:40 -0500
Jason Grout jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote:
William Stein wrote:
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 11:09 AM, Jason Grout
jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote:
William Stein wrote:
On
William Stein wrote:
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Burcin Erocal bur...@erocal.org wrote:
On Sat, 14 Mar 2009 13:18:40 -0500
Jason Grout jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote:
William Stein wrote:
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 11:09 AM, Jason Grout
jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote:
William
On Sat, 14 Mar 2009 11:45:13 -0700
William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Burcin Erocal bur...@erocal.org
wrote:
On Sat, 14 Mar 2009 13:18:40 -0500
Jason Grout jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote:
William Stein wrote:
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 11:52 AM, Jason Grout
jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote:
William Stein wrote:
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Burcin Erocal bur...@erocal.org wrote:
On Sat, 14 Mar 2009 13:18:40 -0500
Jason Grout jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote:
William Stein wrote:
On Sat, Mar
Jason Grout wrote:
William Stein wrote:
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Burcin Erocal bur...@erocal.org wrote:
On Sat, 14 Mar 2009 13:18:40 -0500
Jason Grout jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote:
William Stein wrote:
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 11:09 AM, Jason Grout
jason-s...@creativetrax.com
William Stein wrote:
In particular, xmin/xmax also would have to be deprecated and replaced by
Mathematica's plot_ranges...
As a *former* Maple user I would prefer the syntax plot(expr, var = a..b)
Just joking, I can live with the proposal als long as it is (var, a, b)
and not {var, a, b}
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Jason Grout
jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote:
Jason Grout wrote:
William Stein wrote:
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Burcin Erocal bur...@erocal.org wrote:
On Sat, 14 Mar 2009 13:18:40 -0500
Jason Grout jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote:
William Stein
On Saturday 14 March 2009 02:45:13 pm William Stein wrote:
William, shall we treat the case where the only variables in the
expression is x and y specially, and allow not specifying the variables
for the axis then? I think this makes the notation confusing and
inconsistent.
I have never
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 12:10 PM, Joel B. Mohler j...@kiwistrawberry.us wrote:
On Saturday 14 March 2009 02:45:13 pm William Stein wrote:
William, shall we treat the case where the only variables in the
expression is x and y specially, and allow not specifying the variables
for the axis
Burcin Erocal wrote:
On Sat, 14 Mar 2009 11:45:13 -0700
William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote:
It is a similar situation for the plot commands. Many people have
complained about the inconsistencies in Sage's plotting interface.
Looking at MMA's plot commands, only this syntax is
Looking at MMA's plot commands, only this syntax is accepted:
Plot[Sin[x], {x, 0, Pi}]
Note the explicit variable name.
I think we should try to make the syntax uniform for all the plot
functions, and ask the user to specify the variable in every case.
(This means deprecating the
Looking at MMA's plot commands, only this syntax is accepted:
Plot[Sin[x], {x, 0, Pi}]
Note the explicit variable name.
I think we should try to make the syntax uniform for all the plot
functions, and ask the user to specify the variable in every case.
(This means deprecating the
I would vote for consistency over convenience every time. I am
forever forgetting the * for multiplication, but I'm glad the implicit-
multiplication feature has to be consciously turned on - and I don't
plan on ever turning it on. ;-)
I don't want to reopen the debate over the variable 'x'
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