[sage-devel] Re: Expected value of probability space

2008-12-01 Thread William Stein
On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 9:39 PM, Paul Butler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been experimenting with probability and found that in Sage, a probability space is also a random variable by inheritance. This may be useful. Without it, creating a random variable requires two classes: a probability

[sage-devel] Re: Christmas once again ...

2008-12-01 Thread David Joyner
That p-adic one is actually my design! Here is another one: http://www.usna.edu/Users/math/wdj/greeting.jpg It's a Barnsley fractal I programmed in C long ago, though I've lost the code. I'll try to recreate it in Sage. On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 4:56 AM, Harald Schilly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[sage-devel] Request for additions to the Sage 3.2.1 Release Tour

2008-12-01 Thread mabshoff
Hello folks, 3.2.1 is about done (rc1 should be announced officially in about 2 hours once it passes my build testing and a full test run, but it is in the usual place if you want to get going with it now). My main request is for people to add items to the Sage Release tour at

[sage-devel] Re: Christmas once again ...

2008-12-01 Thread mabshoff
On Dec 1, 2:47 am, David Joyner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That p-adic one is actually my design! Here is another one:http://www.usna.edu/Users/math/wdj/greeting.jpg It's a Barnsley fractal I programmed in C long ago, though I've lost the code. I'll try to recreate it in Sage. On Mon, Dec

[sage-devel] Re: Request for additions to the Sage 3.2.1 Release Tour

2008-12-01 Thread David Joyner
Generally, I'd be happy to help with this sort of thing. This is the end of the semester here now though and not the best time (lots of grading, tutoring, etc). I can try to do what I can though. On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 6:20 AM, mabshoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello folks, 3.2.1 is about

[sage-devel] Sage 3.2.1.rc1 released

2008-12-01 Thread mabshoff
Hello folks, it took a couple hours longer than planned, but here goes 3.2.1.rc1. The changes merged went a little deeper than planned, i.e. the two biggest changes are massive improvements to the Magma interface by William and the overhaul of module_list.py by Craig. The changes by Craig will

[sage-devel] Re: name space pollution

2008-12-01 Thread koffie
Are there some general guidelines on how to use the namespaces in sage. Like: which function's should be accesible from which namespace (global v.s. local and maybe some hierachical structure in the local namespace). I think some guidelines on this would improve the userfriendliness of sage a big

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.2.1.rc1 released

2008-12-01 Thread mhampton
All tests passed on an upgrade from rc0, on an intel mac (10.5). Three cheers for the more flexible upgrade option! -M. Hampton On Dec 2, 7:02 am, mabshoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello folks, it took a couple hours longer than planned, but here goes 3.2.1.rc1. The changes merged went a

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.2.1.rc1 released

2008-12-01 Thread mabshoff
On Dec 1, 6:53 am, mhampton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All tests passed on an upgrade from rc0, on an intel mac (10.5). Three cheers for the more flexible upgrade option! -M. Hampton Yeah, for me it is the killer feature of 3.2.1 - no disrespect to all the other great features :) But for

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.2.1.rc1 released

2008-12-01 Thread Jaap Spies
mabshoff wrote: Hello folks, it took a couple hours longer than planned, but here goes 3.2.1.rc1. The changes merged went a little deeper than planned, i.e. the two biggest changes are massive improvements to the Magma interface by William and the overhaul of module_list.py by Craig. The

[sage-devel] Re: recommended method to extend sage classes

2008-12-01 Thread Jason Grout
David Joyner wrote: By extend a Sage class it seems you mean add a method to a Sage class. You want to know how to add a method to the class matrix_complex_double_dense.pyx at http://www.sagemath.org/hg/sage-main/file/8b1d19463fc4/sage/matrix/matrix_complex_double_dense.pyx ? (If you

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.2.1.rc1 released

2008-12-01 Thread mabshoff
On Dec 1, 7:27 am, Jaap Spies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mabshoff wrote: SNIP Upgrade from rc0 on Fedora 9 has the known issues in sage/rings/polynomial/multi_polynomial_ideal.py Jaap Hi Jaap, can you repost the output? I made another one of those GBasis over ZZ computations optional for

[sage-devel] Re: Expected value of probability space

2008-12-01 Thread Paul Butler
Hi David, Thanks for explaining that, I see how that causes problems when S is not a set of numbers. Even so, would it make sense for the random variable ps to be the identity function X(x) = x on the probability space ps? Currently the random variable ps is the function X(x) = P(x). Is this a

[sage-devel] Re: recommended method to extend sage classes

2008-12-01 Thread Jason Grout
Simon Beaumont wrote: What is the recommended way to extend sage classes? - I want to add some functionality to the complex matrix class - specifically tests for: is_symmetric, is_hermitian, is_unitary etc... you get the idea. As noted in other replies, you could add these methods to either

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.2.1.rc1 released

2008-12-01 Thread Jaap Spies
mabshoff wrote: On Dec 1, 7:27 am, Jaap Spies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mabshoff wrote: SNIP Upgrade from rc0 on Fedora 9 has the known issues in sage/rings/polynomial/multi_polynomial_ideal.py Jaap Hi Jaap, can you repost the output? I made another one of those GBasis over ZZ

[sage-devel] Re: plot3d problem - stalled in maxima

2008-12-01 Thread Jason Grout
David Joyner wrote: Since sage: x,y = var(x y) sage: plot3d(x^2-y^2, (x,-1,1),(y,-1,1)) works fine, why not just use variables sage: f = x^2-y^2 sage: f.variables() (x, y) to find the missing variables in plot3d(x^2-y^2, (-1,1),(-1,1)) and then replace the arguments (-1,1),(-1,1)

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.2.1.rc1 released

2008-12-01 Thread Kiran Kedlaya
This is also the unique doctest failure under RHEL5 on my 64-bit Opteron box (upgraded from rc0). Kiran On Dec 1, 10:35 am, Jaap Spies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mabshoff wrote: On Dec 1, 7:27 am, Jaap Spies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mabshoff wrote: SNIP Upgrade from rc0 on Fedora 9

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.2.1.rc1 released

2008-12-01 Thread mabshoff
On Dec 1, 7:40 am, Kiran Kedlaya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is also the unique doctest failure under RHEL5 on my 64-bit Opteron box (upgraded from rc0). Kiran Jaap, Kiran, this is basically caused by #4593. We can also make that doctest optional for now since the failure is also due to

[sage-devel] Re: plot3d problem - stalled in maxima

2008-12-01 Thread Jason Grout
Jason Grout wrote: David Joyner wrote: Since sage: x,y = var(x y) sage: plot3d(x^2-y^2, (x,-1,1),(y,-1,1)) works fine, why not just use variables sage: f = x^2-y^2 sage: f.variables() (x, y) to find the missing variables in plot3d(x^2-y^2, (-1,1),(-1,1)) and then replace the

[sage-devel] Re: [sympy] patch review

2008-12-01 Thread Ondrej Certik
On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 8:50 PM, Vinzent Steinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sage has problems with reviewing patches: http://sagemath.blogspot.com/2008/11/sage-patch-review.html I think our current patch review system could be improved too. So I suggest to take part in the discussion.

[sage-devel] Re: Expected value of probability space

2008-12-01 Thread David Kohel
Hi Paul, Thanks for explaining that, I see how that causes problems when S is not a set of numbers. Even so, would it make sense for the random variable ps to be the identity function X(x) = x on the probability space ps? Currently the random variable ps is the function X(x) = P(x). Is this

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.2.1.rc1 released

2008-12-01 Thread Jaap Spies
mabshoff wrote: Hello folks, it took a couple hours longer than planned, but here goes 3.2.1.rc1. The changes merged went a little deeper than planned, i.e. the two biggest changes are massive improvements to the Magma interface by William and the overhaul of module_list.py by Craig. The

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.2.1.rc1 released

2008-12-01 Thread Justin C. Walker
On Dec 1, 2008, at 05:02 , mabshoff wrote: Hello folks, it took a couple hours longer than planned, but here goes 3.2.1.rc1. The changes merged went a little deeper than planned, i.e. the two biggest changes are massive improvements to the Magma interface by William and the overhaul of

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.2.1.rc1 released

2008-12-01 Thread Jaap Spies
Justin C. Walker wrote: On Dec 1, 2008, at 05:02 , mabshoff wrote: Hello folks, it took a couple hours longer than planned, but here goes 3.2.1.rc1. The changes merged went a little deeper than planned, i.e. the two biggest changes are massive improvements to the Magma interface by

[sage-devel] Re: Expected value of probability space

2008-12-01 Thread Paul Butler
Hi David, When I was referring to the probability space ps and the random variable ps, I was referring to the fact that ps is by inheritance a probability space and a random variable (is_DiscreteProbabilitySpace(ps) == is_DiscreteRandomVariable(ps) == True). I do see that the values are

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.2.1.rc1 released

2008-12-01 Thread Justin C. Walker
On Dec 1, 2008, at 16:59 , Jaap Spies wrote: Justin C. Walker wrote: On Dec 1, 2008, at 05:02 , mabshoff wrote: Hello folks, it took a couple hours longer than planned, but here goes 3.2.1.rc1. The changes merged went a little deeper than planned, i.e. the two biggest changes are

[sage-devel] libm4ri

2008-12-01 Thread Robert Bradshaw
I just noticed for m4ri the package is called libm4ri-*.spkg. Any reason this isn't m4ri-*.spkg? - Robert --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For

[sage-devel] Re: libm4ri

2008-12-01 Thread mabshoff
On Dec 1, 8:40 pm, Robert Bradshaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just noticed for m4ri the package is called libm4ri-*.spkg. Any   reason this isn't m4ri-*.spkg? That is the name malb gave it initially and it just stuck. The same applies for libfplll.spkg, too. - Robert Cheers, Michael

[sage-devel] Sage 3.2.2.alpha0 release cycle opened

2008-12-01 Thread mabshoff
Hello folks, Sage 3.2.1 is out - at least unofficially - so I have started building my Sage 3.2.2.alpha0 merge tree. It will be a couple hours until I start merging since I will catch some sleep in the meantime, so if you have patches that are supposed to get in please make sure they apply

[sage-devel] Re: libm4ri

2008-12-01 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Dec 1, 2008, at 8:42 PM, mabshoff wrote: On Dec 1, 8:40 pm, Robert Bradshaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just noticed for m4ri the package is called libm4ri-*.spkg. Any reason this isn't m4ri-*.spkg? That is the name malb gave it initially and it just stuck. The same applies for

[sage-devel] Re: libm4ri

2008-12-01 Thread mabshoff
On Dec 1, 8:51 pm, Robert Bradshaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 1, 2008, at 8:42 PM, mabshoff wrote: On Dec 1, 8:40 pm, Robert Bradshaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just noticed for m4ri the package is called libm4ri-*.spkg. Any reason this isn't m4ri-*.spkg? That is the name malb

[sage-devel] Re: libm4ri

2008-12-01 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Dec 1, 2008, at 8:54 PM, mabshoff wrote: On Dec 1, 8:51 pm, Robert Bradshaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 1, 2008, at 8:42 PM, mabshoff wrote: On Dec 1, 8:40 pm, Robert Bradshaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just noticed for m4ri the package is called libm4ri-*.spkg. Any reason this

[sage-devel] Re: libm4ri

2008-12-01 Thread mabshoff
On Dec 1, 9:11 pm, Robert Bradshaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 1, 2008, at 8:54 PM, mabshoff wrote: On Dec 1, 8:51 pm, Robert Bradshaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 1, 2008, at 8:42 PM, mabshoff wrote: On Dec 1, 8:40 pm, Robert Bradshaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.2.2.alpha0 release cycle opened

2008-12-01 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 8:46 PM, mabshoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello folks, Sage 3.2.1 is out - at least unofficially - so I have started building my Sage 3.2.2.alpha0 merge tree. It will be a couple hours until I start merging since I will catch some sleep in the meantime, so if you

[sage-devel] questions about optional packages

2008-12-01 Thread John H Palmieri
Some random questions about the optional packages available for Sage: Which is more up-to-date: the list obtained by 'sage --optional', or the list on the wiki http://wiki.sagemath.org/ optional_packages_available_for_SAGE? (I'm guessing the former.) Is the list obtained by 'sage --optional'

[sage-devel] Re: questions about optional packages

2008-12-01 Thread mabshoff
On Dec 1, 9:36 pm, John H Palmieri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi John, Some random questions about the optional packages available for Sage: Which is more up-to-date: the list obtained by 'sage --optional', or the list on the wiki http://wiki.sagemath.org/

[sage-devel] credit

2008-12-01 Thread Kwankyu
Hi, This is a small thing, but I was a bit discouraged when I found that my tiny contribution of reporting ticket #4641 was ill credited to a wrong person in the release note of Sage 3.2.1 rc0. My name is Kwankyu Lee. Is this still correctable?

[sage-devel] Re: credit

2008-12-01 Thread mabshoff
On Dec 1, 9:59 pm, Kwankyu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Hi, This is a small thing,  but I was a bit discouraged when I found that my tiny contribution of reporting ticket #4641 was ill credited to a wrong person in the release note of Sage 3.2.1 rc0. My name is Kwankyu Lee. Is this still

[sage-devel] Re: credit

2008-12-01 Thread Minh Nguyen
On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 5:06 PM, mabshoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 1, 9:59 pm, Kwankyu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Hi, This is a small thing, but I was a bit discouraged when I found that my tiny contribution of reporting ticket #4641 was ill credited to a wrong person in the

[sage-devel] Re: credit

2008-12-01 Thread Kwankyu
Thank you for your kindness! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URLs:

[sage-devel] Re: credit

2008-12-01 Thread mabshoff
On Dec 1, 10:15 pm, Minh Nguyen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 5:06 PM, mabshoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 1, 9:59 pm, Kwankyu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Hi, This is a small thing,  but I was a bit discouraged when I found that my tiny contribution of