).
I have attempted to resolve this by converting questions into
conditional expressions e.g. Is x positive, negative, or zero?
= if x 0 then ... elseif x 0 then ... else
It sort of works but there are difficulties. If anyone wants to
work on it with me, I'd be glad to have the help.
Robert
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of memory on problems
which other implementations can run to completion.
So maybe switching the Lisp implementation can help,
but, I'll guess, not GCL.
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-to articles refer only to the simpsum flag, which handles
relatively simple cases.)
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thinking on my part?
FYI the Maxima 5.19 branch is scheduled for Aug 1
with an official release later in the month.
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have any trouble figuring out what to do,
and, I guess, neither do the other participants.
We get a lot of work done. It's a great project.
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. Well done!
I'll try the patch if all goes well I'll commit it.
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commit them before the branch if they work.
FWIW the current schedule is 3 releases per year, April, August,
December.
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Maxima 5.19.
Or if anyone would like to commit the patches then please go ahead. 8^)
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stabilizes after 2 or 3 releases,
which takes 2 or 3 weeks. Probably by the end of August
we'll have a stable release.
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is to pull RELEASE-5_19-BRANCH since upcoming releases
(RSN) will, I hope, differ only minimally from whatever you get.
Some of the bugs mentioned might have been fixed already,
I haven't checked.
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a new directory named maxima in the
current working directory).
I'm planning to tag Maxima 5.19.0 and create tar.gz and rpms
so maybe that obviates the need for CVS.
Be advised it's likely there will be a few more 5.19.xx releases.
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I have tagged version-5_19_0 in CVS and created tar.gz and rpms
and uploaded them to SF. See:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/maxima/files/
Likely there will be 5.19.1 and maybe .2 later this month.
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elliptic_e problem, my first guess is that
ECL calls C libraries which yield different results.
The above was generated on Solaris, right?
Maybe someone can try it on other systems.
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and topoly_solver.mac.
I don't know what the difference is, or whether both are needed.
If topoly_solver isn't needed, we should axe it.
If it's needed, we should rename it. Barton?
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(2)+1)])
Unfortunately this isn't right either. The first solution is spurious, isn't it?
float(subst(q = -1/sqrt(1-sqrt(2)), q*sqrt(q^2+2)-1)) = - 1.999
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The code in question is function ELLIPTIC-E in maxima/src/ellipt.lisp.
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archive for the story --- search
for eigenvector patch or something like that.
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with units and other properties
* derivative and integral of quantity + units via pattern matching
(still working on this one)
?? ezunits and ?? physical_quantities finds the documentation.
demo(ezunits) shows some examples.
Maybe a Sage units package could do something similar.
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)
(2) concise notation
(3) conventional abbreviations
(4) conventional capitalization
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William Stein wrote:
suggested doing almost precisely what Robert Dodier keeps telling us
to do, which is make the different units just be symbolic variables,
Well, in addition to implementing units as symbols, it greatly
simplifies
the whole business to keep the units separate from
); in a recent Maxima release (5.19 if you have it)
and tell me if you still prefer Mathematica.
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. That's a good argument for separating units from quantities
in an expression. Then you can tell without ambiguity which symbols
are supposed to be units.
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should
apply such an identity, only that Sage should not prevent the user
from applying it.
I agree that Maxima's result for integrate(f(x), x^2) is spurious.
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ignore (2). I mention here that I'd like help on (1) and (2)
because it's of interest mostly to outsiders;
within Maxima it doesn't make much difference.
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that adding numbers is an important enough
special case that some effort could be spent trying to speed it up.
But most of the fun is in symbolic stuff, so that's probably why
it hasn't been done yet.
Not sure in this case whether the parser or simplifier dominates.
Robert Dodier -- do you have any
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(elapsed_real_time()); in your script and load(myscript.mac);
(parses and evaluates all the stuff in the script but doesn't create
labels).
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On Aug 24, 2:11 pm, Nils Bruin nbr...@sfu.ca wrote:
On Aug 24, 7:55 am, Robert Dodier robert.dod...@gmail.com wrote:
The #$ macro constructs a string input stream and eventually
calls ADD-LINEINFO so it suffers from the bug I mentioned in
a previous message.
The $NOLABELS variable
)). I think domain:complex won't have
the same effect. Maybe Sage is already calling declare.
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/exec.
I think ECL has those and other POSIX-ish functions.
Dunno if they work on Windows, if they exist.
Thanks for your work on the Maxima/ECL/Sage combo.
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and then Python could (I guess) be used as the user language
for Maxima. I would be interested to see what that's like.
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luck is better.
FWIW HTH.
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it is going to be a long haul, and I'm not sure I want to do it by myself.
Of course, no one is obligated to help.
So: is anyone working on Maxima + ECL ?
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helpful.
If someone can fix the compilation problems, that would be even better.
Please direct followups to the ECL mailing list.
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under which relicensing is possible, I'd like to hear about it.
But from what I can tell, a decision amongst the current
developers isn't enough.
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But since v3 is among any version ever published it seems like
the use of Maxima in Sage is OK. Yes/no/maybe ?
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the others, I guess we will have to identify them and
negotiate with each author. I've been meaning for a long time
to do a license review sweep through all of the share stuff ---
maybe now is as good a time as any.
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On 6/3/08, Jaime Villate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
so we can continue to develop Maxima as his original author intended
to?
I will point out that current developers are on much firmer ground if they
consider what Bill Schelter did, as opposed to what he was thinking.
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!
Sage is a great project and it was terrific to meet William Stein
and everyone else. Many thanks to William for the invitation.
I look forward to further collaboration.
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for and received permission from him to release it under
terms of GPL and it is now in Maxima CVS.
Wester has test scripts for several programs; Maxima CVS only
contains the Macsyma test scripts.
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appreciate any help on it.
Also part of the problem is that the assume system in Maxima
is not very strong, and it has bugs. We could use some help on
that too.
I think I;ve made this appeal before --- I'm just trying to take
advantage of the momentary attention to this problem.
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each
result is applicable. Did I miss something?
It appears that the ascii art display shows something different
from the TeX display. Maybe they're equivalent, I can't tell.
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, it's outdated and i think totally wrong.
Aside from being out of date, what's wrong with it?
curiously
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Anyway maybe this is some use or interest. Comments on the CVS
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particularly cool, surprising or clever involving units?
I have looked around to see what Maple and Mathematica have in
the way of units, but from what I have seen, there is nothing very
exciting. Which is OK --- something boring which just works right
would be very useful.
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. Undecided at this point.
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(No questions asked.)
We can probably thank Dan Gildea for this, as he has done
a lot of extremely valuable bug-fixing work on Maxima.
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looked into the details.
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rather than reinventing its wheels.
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What's the benefit of parsing a string? Aside from the w00t-factor.
Incidentally Maxima has mostly the same set of expression-
mogrification
operators, expressed as function calls.
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useful expression hacking without
writing new code for Sage.
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to providing the input in a form that
would be accepted by the gsl solver, or scipy.
Yes. I believe a combination of symbolic and numerical problem
solving is very powerful.
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Tim Lahey wrote:
I presume that Sage can't take a derivative with respect to a function
(Maple can't which is why this code is written this way).
By the way, what do you mean by that? What is the operation that
you would like to do, but fails? Thanks for the info.
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mechanics in Maxima.
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. Maybe it does already.
If someone can post a bug report to the Maxima bug tracker for this
problem, that would be great.
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switching into the you're-a-moron mode.
(3) The answer to the o.p.'s question isn't in the tutorial or
reference
manual. Yes, I looked. Did you? I didn't think so.
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from various other packages, not just Mathematica. Some
explanation should go in the documentation for var itself as well.
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that?) Then you could
(I guess) detect undefined variables without causing side-effects
from any part of the input. Just a guess -- I'm no expert on Python.
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, just as for trivial programs,
it is a good idea to state the license terms. You never know
what's going to happen to the stuff you create.
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function evaluation until
additional context is supplied.
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I say this after encountering various convenience hacks
in Maxima, which, lo, these many decades on, are
very hard to banish.
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target.
For the record, there will be the now-usual December release of
Maxima next month, to be followed by another April, etc.
Thanks a lot for your work on Maxima + ECL.
I know that's only a tiny fraction of all the work you do.
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Even if you end up using Sage, you might get some ideas there.
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know what
that is in Sage) and into some subclass which can
guarantee the operation succeeds. Just a thought.
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the question haven't messed up something.
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PS.
$ maxima --batch sage_fourier_helper.mac 1 1.out 2 2.out
$ tail 1.out
$ cat sage_fourier.mac
fc_all(n):=fc_ab(-1,n,-%pi,(-%pi)/2)+fc_ab(2,n,-%pi/2,0)
+fc_ab(-1,n,0,%pi/2)+fc_ab(2,n,%pi/2,%pi)$
fc_ab(e,n,a,b):=if n = 0
a tremendous amount of work on
integration and special functions in Maxima.
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mabshoff wrote:
There is no such thing in Sage, all the experiments were done without
Sage, i.e. build ecl and then Maxima.
OK. Btw, what mechanism did you use to build Maxima?
ASDF or defsystem or ??
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the alternatives and re-evaluate under each alternative.
That way it's not necessary to change the code at all of the
places at which questions are generated. I considered that
also and decided against it.
If anyone is interested, I would very much appreciate your help.
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On Oct 16, 2:23 pm, Jason Grout jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote:
I'm not on their list. I hope Robert Dodier or someone else sees this.
Probably it's best to submit Maxima bugs to the bug tracker.
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=browsegroup_id=4933atid=104933
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. That should fail with a more informative message.
If you don't have a working version, try reverting clmacs.lisp.
I don't know how far back you'll have to go.
Sorry I can't be more helpful,
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I can post a session log later if there is interest.
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. Too many contexts has been an
indication
of some kind of bug every time I've seen it.
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that is anywhere
near the
problem of the NFS stat calls, but it does seem inefficient.
Well, when I try it, I see sysfun.lsp being read in blocks of 8 K.
Dunno why it would try to read it one byte at a time.
Maybe ECL tried to determine a suitable block size and failed?
Just a guess.
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on. Not really so much of a problem,
but it is a curiosity.
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So far so good
(%i1) :lisp (share-subdir-list)
Maxima encountered a Lisp error:
The function SHARE-SUBDIR-LIST is undefined.
Oops, it should be (share-subdirs-list) .
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was searching all of / .
Do you see Maxima looking in all of / in the calls to stat?
If not, what do you get for the above steps if you run it on
a system in which Maxima searches all of / ??
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; in particular,
I find the GFDL incomprehensible.
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of code into
testZeilberger.mac to kill off the variables d1, d2, f1, f2, f3
after they are used. Diff below.
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PS.
--- share/contrib/Zeilberger/testZeilberger.mac 9 Feb 2007 22:32:34
- 1.4
+++ share/contrib/Zeilberger/testZeilberger.mac 15 Jan 2010 19:10:53
-
, and I'll probably
do so again; sorry for the repetition. As ever I wouldn't
mind having some help to finish it, if only some complaints
well, it would be more useful if it would do Y instead of X
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tensors and GR should be directed to the mailing
list. max...@math.utexas.edu
I don't know anything about tensors.
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. In the interest of getting predictable results I would
advise to simply avoid keepfloat altogether. I don't really
see the point of it; I haven't considered this too carefully,
but I might be in favor of simply expunging it.
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mabshoff wrote:
Yes, but you can run Maxima on top of ecl, but the issue with asksign
for example does not go away. I asked Robert Dodier about it at Dev1
and he seemed reluctant about this possibility.
Hmm, what is this possibility ? I don't understand.
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mabshoff wrote:
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Hmm, what is this possibility ? I don't understand.
I meant embedding Maxima into a library extensions via ecl. You stated
to the best of my recollection that this would be troublesome due to
asksign since
font, from what I can tell.
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out many details but the general point is that I think
you guys (= Sage project) should aim high.
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regex
characters could be arithmetic operators, allowing any
kind of regex syntax seems problematic.) Maybe Sage
likewise could adopt a distinction between different kinds
of search.
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a conditional expression
instead of requiring user input. I'll be happy to collaborate
with interested parties on a solution.
Believe it or not, Maxima is not stuck in a time warp;
progress is actually possible, when we stop carping and
focus on solving problems instead.
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keepfloat.
Maxima would rather work in exact numbers FWIW.
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., cardinality)
Agreed.
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list about it.
See: http://maxima.sourceforge.net/maximalist.html
We would be glad to have your help.
Robert Dodier
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constants are handled separately from symbolic constants
in many cases. I don't know whether a unification is possible,
or desirable, if possible.
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the user, who has a better idea about
what they want to accomplish than the package writer.
FWIW
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FWIW
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