Re: Where are YOU now?

2001-01-25 Thread Andrew Collier
At 10:13 pm +0100 24/1/01, Aley Keprt wrote: At 9:06 pm +0100 24/1/01, Aley Keprt wrote: If you use two disks without RAID0, you have the same data loss probability. Wrong. With RAID0, you lose the integrity of your *entire* filesystem when _either_ of the disks crash. So you expect to

Re: Where are YOU now?

2001-01-25 Thread Aley Keprt
At 10:13 pm +0100 24/1/01, Aley Keprt wrote: At 9:06 pm +0100 24/1/01, Aley Keprt wrote: If you use two disks without RAID0, you have the same data loss probability. Wrong. With RAID0, you lose the integrity of your *entire* filesystem when _either_ of the disks crash. So you expect to

Re: Where are YOU now?

2001-01-25 Thread Frode Tenneboe
On Wed, 24 Jan 2001 21:00:03 +0100 Aley Keprt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think different way. If you have 10 disks you have 10 disks which may crash. That's okay. But it has nothing to do with RAID. I say it is a nonsense to say that RAID increases possibility of disk crashes. Using many

Re: Where are YOU now?

2001-01-25 Thread Frode Tenneboe
On Thu, 25 Jan 2001 08:45:44 +0100 Aley Keprt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You shouldn't rely on disk error = all data lost. I had a disk error, and I lost only one sector in one logical drive. It depends on what kind of disk error you encounter. Disk error != disk crash. As I wrote, if whole

Re: Where are YOU now?

2001-01-25 Thread Aley Keprt
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Re: Where are YOU now?

2001-01-25 Thread Frode Tenneboe
On Thu, 25 Jan 2001 09:08:50 +0100 Aley Keprt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But why you still rely on disk crash = all data are lost ? This is the case with RAID0 (lost = lost from the RAID). -Frode

Re: Where are YOU now?

2001-01-25 Thread Aley Keprt
On Thu, 25 Jan 2001 09:08:50 +0100 Aley Keprt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But why you still rely on disk crash = all data are lost ? This is the case with RAID0 (lost = lost from the RAID). -Frode I see the problem is that I don't see disk crash is equal to disk is completely lost. If you

Re: Where are YOU now?

2001-01-25 Thread Aley Keprt
On Thu, 25 Jan 2001 08:45:44 +0100 Aley Keprt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You shouldn't rely on disk error = all data lost. I had a disk error, and I lost only one sector in one logical drive. It depends on what kind of disk error you encounter. Disk error != disk crash. As I wrote,

Re: Where are YOU now?

2001-01-25 Thread Frode Tenneboe
On Thu, 25 Jan 2001 11:37:27 +0100 Aley Keprt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 25 Jan 2001 09:08:50 +0100 Aley Keprt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But why you still rely on disk crash = all data are lost ? This is the case with RAID0 (lost = lost from the RAID). -Frode I see the

Re: Where are YOU now?

2001-01-25 Thread Aley Keprt
On Thu, 25 Jan 2001 11:37:27 +0100 Aley Keprt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 25 Jan 2001 09:08:50 +0100 Aley Keprt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But why you still rely on disk crash = all data are lost ? This is the case with RAID0 (lost = lost from the RAID). -Frode

Re: Where are YOU now?

2001-01-25 Thread Frode Tenneboe
On Thu, 25 Jan 2001 13:25:04 +0100 Aley Keprt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The question is if this definition is only yours, or the standard one. I have never distinguished between several different disk errors. i.e. either disk is in good condition or not Think of a car accident. If you can't

RE: Where are YOU now?

2001-01-25 Thread Johnna Teare
yawn yawn yawn - any chance of playing this out in private folks? { -Original Message- { From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] { [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Aley Keprt { Sent: 25 January 2001 10:32 { To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no { Subject: Re: Where are YOU now? { { { { { On Thu, 25 Jan 2001

RE: Where are YOU now?

2001-01-25 Thread Chris Pile
Here Here!!! I didn't have the bottle to post that! ;-) -Original Message- From: Johnna Teare [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2001 5:22 PM To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: RE: Where are YOU now? yawn yawn yawn - any chance of playing this out in private folks

Re: Where are YOU now?

2001-01-24 Thread Frode Tenneboe
On Tue, 23 Jan 2001 19:45:38 + Dean Liversidge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Although i use my system a lot at home, the chance of me having a drive fail, is very very slim, if they fail, they do it straight away, or last for years, even tho my system is usually on 24/7, its still not a big

Re: Where are YOU now?

2001-01-24 Thread Dean Liversidge
On Wed, 24 Jan 2001 09:35:52 +0100 (MET), you wrote: On Tue, 23 Jan 2001 19:45:38 + Dean Liversidge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Although i use my system a lot at home, the chance of me having a drive fail, is very very slim, if they fail, they do it straight away, or last for years, even tho

Re: Where are YOU now?

2001-01-24 Thread Aley Keprt
On Mon, 22 Jan 2001 21:21:20 +0100 Aley Keprt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, there is no redundancy in a RAID0 set, hence it's more commonly referred to as striping. Actually, introducing RAID0 increases the probability of a disk crash (and hence data loss without propper backup)

Re: Where are YOU now?

2001-01-24 Thread Aley Keprt
However, there is no redundancy in a RAID0 set, hence it's more commonly referred to as striping. Actually, introducing RAID0 increases the probability of a disk crash (and hence data loss without propper backup) by the increase in disks. What a theory is this?! How can it

Re: Where are YOU now?

2001-01-24 Thread Aley Keprt
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Re: Where are YOU now?

2001-01-24 Thread Andrew Collier
At 9:06 pm +0100 24/1/01, Aley Keprt wrote: How can it increate a probility of a disk crash? Is it just because of using two disks? Is so, it is a nonsense. No. Disks come with a MTBF. If you add disks, this MTBF remains (almost) constant. The MTBF of the entire raid will then decrase

Re: Where are YOU now?

2001-01-24 Thread Dean Liversidge
On Wed, 24 Jan 2001 21:06:20 +0100, you wrote: How can it increate a probility of a disk crash? Is it just because of using two disks? Is so, it is a nonsense. No. Disks come with a MTBF. If you add disks, this MTBF remains (almost) constant. The MTBF of the entire raid will then decrase

Re: Where are YOU now?

2001-01-24 Thread Aley Keprt
At 9:06 pm +0100 24/1/01, Aley Keprt wrote: How can it increate a probility of a disk crash? Is it just because of using two disks? Is so, it is a nonsense. No. Disks come with a MTBF. If you add disks, this MTBF remains (almost) constant. The MTBF of the entire raid will then

Re: Where are YOU now?

2001-01-24 Thread Aley Keprt
How can it increate a probility of a disk crash? Is it just because of using two disks? Is so, it is a nonsense. No. Disks come with a MTBF. If you add disks, this MTBF remains (almost) constant. The MTBF of the entire raid will then decrase when the number of disks increase.

Re: Where are YOU now?

2001-01-23 Thread Frode Tenneboe
On Mon, 22 Jan 2001 21:21:20 +0100 Aley Keprt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, there is no redundancy in a RAID0 set, hence it's more commonly referred to as striping. Actually, introducing RAID0 increases the probability of a disk crash (and hence data loss without propper backup) by the

RE: Where are YOU now?

2001-01-23 Thread Luke Trevorrow
-Original Message- From: Simon Cooke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 09:11 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Where are YOU now? Just wondering... what's everyone up to these days? I've been out of touch for a while. :) So... Where d'ya live? Nuneaton in

Re: Where are YOU now?

2001-01-23 Thread Dean Liversidge
On Tue, 23 Jan 2001 09:12:30 +0100 (MET), you wrote: On Mon, 22 Jan 2001 21:21:20 +0100 Aley Keprt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, there is no redundancy in a RAID0 set, hence it's more commonly referred to as striping. Actually, introducing RAID0 increases the probability of a disk crash

Re: Where are YOU now?

2001-01-22 Thread Aley Keprt
Is RAID 0 really two times faster? Depends, but there is usually always a certain amount of loss in multiplicator effect, but for all practical purposes it's twice as fast if you substitute one disk for two using RAID0. Provided, of course that there is enough bandwith on the bus and the

Re: Where are YOU now?

2001-01-22 Thread Dave Whitmore
On Thu, 18 Jan 2001 15:11:28 -0800 Thu, 18 Jan 01 23:30:18 GMT, Simon Cooke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (BTW: Generations 8.0 [which you'll see in stores in the UK] is MY baby ... and I accept no blame whatsoever for its bugs, given that I managed to fix over 200 of them for the latest release :))

Re: Where are YOU now?

2001-01-22 Thread Slow Down Cadet
However, there is no redundancy in a RAID0 set, hence it's more commonly referred to as striping. Actually, introducing RAID0 increases the probability of a disk crash (and hence data loss without propper backup) by the increase in disks. What a theory is this?! How can it increate a

Re: Where are YOU now?

2001-01-19 Thread Simon Cooke
Dude; kill files work on YOUR end, not mine :) I can't prevent nvg from sending an email to you even if I wanted them to :) Si - Original Message - From: David L [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 1:45 PM Subject: Re: Where are YOU now? why

Re: Where are YOU now?

2001-01-19 Thread Simon Cooke
From: Dean Liversidge [EMAIL PROTECTED] i've bin out off touch too, last i remember Si, you were working for microsoft, did you realise that they only employed poeple who put bugs in software ;o) Nah... I just decided to go and work for somewhere that would recognize my creative potential.

Re: Where are YOU now?

2001-01-19 Thread Nev Young
On Wed, 17 Jan 2001 01:10:48 -0800, Simon Cooke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just wondering... what's everyone up to these days? I've been out of touch for a while. :) So... Where d'ya live? flitting between Norwich/Lowestoft/Skipton Where d'ya work (and what are you working on)? Norwich

Re: Where are YOU now?

2001-01-18 Thread Simon Cooke
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] So Si - what side of the pond are you these days? Still in america... Seattle still... seriously considering coming back for a while. But heck, I do that every couple of months :) Si

Re: Where are YOU now?

2001-01-18 Thread Simon Cooke
This is where in a comical aside, answer my own question... From: Simon Cooke Just wondering... what's everyone up to these days? I've been out of touch for a while. :) So... Where d'ya live? Seattle, Washington State, USA (you know, that bit at the very top left of the US) Where d'ya work

Re: Where are YOU now?

2001-01-18 Thread Aley Keprt
- Original Message - From: Dean Liversidge [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 11:11 PM Subject: Re: Where are YOU now? What's the coolest gizmo you've bought recently? not quite a gizmo, but just upgraded my PC, now i've got a loverly 80Gb

Re: Where are YOU now?

2001-01-18 Thread Frode Tenneboe
On Thu, 18 Jan 2001 09:30:38 +0100 Aley Keprt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is RAID 0 really two times faster? Depends, but there is usually always a certain amount of loss in multiplicator effect, but for all practical purposes it's twice as fast if you substitute one disk for two using RAID0.

RE: Where are YOU now?

2001-01-18 Thread Simon Owen
Simon Cooke wrote: Just wondering... what's everyone up to these days? I've been out of touch for a while. :) So... Where d'ya live? Nottingham, UK. Where d'ya work (and what are you working on)? Wordcraft International Ltd., Derby. Currently porting a comms driver from Win32 to Linux,

Re: Where are YOU now?

2001-01-18 Thread Allan Skillman
Hi All, Just wondering... what's everyone up to these days? I've been out of touch for a while. :) So... Where d'ya live? Kettering UK, although I think we will be moving to Cambridge as soon as we can afford it - Bloody A14 Where d'ya work (and what are you working on)? ARM -

RE: Where are YOU now?

2001-01-18 Thread Justin . Skists
What's the coolest gizmo you've bought recently? Um, well we had a baby 10 days ago ;) CONGRATS!!! Justin

RE: Where are YOU now?

2001-01-18 Thread Simon Owen
Allan Skillman wrote: Um, well we had a baby 10 days ago ;) Blimey, congratulations Allan! Boy or girl? Got a name yet, or need us to help you with that? ;-) Si

Re: Where are YOU now?

2001-01-18 Thread Allan Skillman
Hi All, As they say It's a boy! - Rhys Eady Skillman. Best regards Allan On Thursday 18 January 2001 16:01, you wrote: Allan Skillman wrote: Um, well we had a baby 10 days ago ;) Blimey, congratulations Allan! Boy or girl? Got a name yet, or need us to help you with that? ;-) Si --

Re: Where are YOU now?

2001-01-18 Thread Simon Cooke
From: Allan Skillman [EMAIL PROTECTED] As they say It's a boy! - Rhys Eady Skillman. Congrats! But my recommendation? Take some of the vowels from Eady and move them over to Rhys where they're needed -- there's a severe shortage in that first name ;-) That's great news! May he keep you awake

RE: Where are YOU now?

2001-01-18 Thread Simon Owen
Simon Cooke wrote: Congrats! But my recommendation? Take some of the vowels from Eady and move them over to Rhys where they're needed -- there's a severe shortage in that first name ;-) pedantic Isn't Rhys a Welsh name, and IIRC, the letter 'y' is a regular vowel in Welsh? /pedantic }:- Si

Re: Where are YOU now?

2001-01-18 Thread Gavin Smith
on 1/17/01 9:10 AM, Simon Cooke at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where d'ya live? Carrickfergus, Northern Ireland. Where d'ya work (and what are you working on)? Self employed, working on a few software projects for Mac and PC. What's the coolest gizmo you've bought recently? I would say my

Re: Where are YOU now?

2001-01-18 Thread Dean Liversidge
On Thu, 18 Jan 2001 12:19:18 +0100 (MET), you wrote: On Thu, 18 Jan 2001 09:30:38 +0100 Aley Keprt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is RAID 0 really two times faster? Depends, but there is usually always a certain amount of loss in multiplicator effect, but for all practical purposes it's twice as

Re: Where are YOU now?

2001-01-18 Thread Dean Liversidge
On Wed, 17 Jan 2001 16:15:43 -0800, you wrote: This is where in a comical aside, answer my own question... From: Simon Cooke Just wondering... what's everyone up to these days? I've been out of touch for a while. :) So... Where d'ya work (and what are you working on)? Sierra OnLine, Inc. I

Re: Where are YOU now?

2001-01-18 Thread David L
why didnt i get the original email from cookie? has he killfiled me or something? - Original Message - From: Simon Owen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 12:16 PM Subject: RE: Where are YOU now? Simon Cooke wrote: Just wondering... what's

Re: Where are YOU now?

2001-01-18 Thread Dean Liversidge
On Thu, 18 Jan 2001 21:45:47 -, you wrote: why didnt i get the original email from cookie? has he killfiled me or something? erm, how can he killfile you, this is a mailing list, you should get everything thats sent to it, unless you stop it, shouldnt ya ??? -- Dean Liversidge [EMAIL

Re: Where are YOU now?

2001-01-17 Thread dan
Just wondering... what's everyone up to these days? I've been out of touch for a while. :) Well, I'll start the ball rolling... Where d'ya live? Leeds, En-ger-land. Where d'ya work (and what are you working on)? Green Flag Group, LAN technician with a bit of NT on the side. Currently

Re: Where are YOU now?

2001-01-17 Thread Frode Tenneboe
On Wed, 17 Jan 2001 01:10:48 -0800 Simon Cooke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just wondering... what's everyone up to these days? I've been out of touch for a while. :) So... Where d'ya live? Halden, Norway. Where d'ya work (and what are you working on)? Ericsson Radar AS What's the

RE: Where are YOU now?

2001-01-17 Thread Justin . Skists
Where d'ya live? Milton Keynes, UK. Where d'ya work (and what are you working on)? Aculab UK. Trying to get my bloody switch/call/speech driver working on Linux 2.4... What's the coolest gizmo you've bought recently? Simpson's beer glass.

RE: Where are YOU now?

2001-01-17 Thread Adrian Brown
Where d'ya live? Blagdon, Brisol, UK. Where d'ya work (and what are you working on)? Hothouse Creations Ltd, writing games and researching 3d on nextgen platforms What's the coolest gizmo you've bought recently? A machine that goes PING! - Ok, well maybe its the cocktail pourers for my

Re: Where are YOU now?

2001-01-17 Thread Robert van der Veeke
- Original Message - From: Simon Cooke To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 10:10 AM Subject: Where are YOU now? Just wondering... what's everyone up to these days? I've been out of touch for a while. :) So... Where d'ya live? In the Netherlands, yep it is stil

RE: Where are YOU now?

2001-01-17 Thread Chris White
Where d'ya live? Harrogate , Uk Where d'ya work (and what are you working on)? @ Home , programming Psx,PC,XBox Nuon (Soon PS2) Psx = Milli Miglia (SCi) , SpeedBall 2100 (BitmapBrothers) Pc/XBox = Rally Championship 2001 (Platinum Interactive) , Secret Project (Platinum

RE: Where are YOU now?

2001-01-17 Thread Dean Woodyatt
-Original Message- From: Chris White [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17 January 2001 11:59 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: RE: Where are YOU now? Where d'ya live? [Dean Woodyatt] Cwmbran, Wales, UK Where d'ya work (and what are you working

Re: Where are YOU now?

2001-01-17 Thread Aley Keprt
Just wondering... what's everyone up to these days? I've been out of touch for a while. :) So... Where d'ya live? Brno, Czech Republic (Brno is a town in south-east part of our country. It's near Vienna, the capital of Austria.) Where d'ya work (and what are you working

Re: Where are YOU now?

2001-01-17 Thread Frans van Egmond
Simon Cooke wrote: Just wondering... what's everyone up to these days? I've been out of touch for a while. :)So...Where d'ya live? I'm in the Netherlands and I know I'm not the only one (in this newsgroup) to be there... Where d'ya work (and what are you working on)? I work for TV News, I'm

Re: Where are YOU now?

2001-01-17 Thread womoteam
Simon Cooke schrieb: Just wondering... what's everyone up to these days? I've been out of touch for a while. :) So... Where d'ya live? Cologne / Germany Where d'ya work (and what are you working on)? From home. Doing Print- and Webmedia. g on)? What's the coolest gizmo you've bought

Re: Where are YOU now?

2001-01-17 Thread Dave Hooper
Where d'ya live? Southampton, UK. (Locks Heath, actually, east of Southampton, west of Fareham, kind of no-mans-landy) Where d'ya work (and what are you working on)? Telsis Ltd., Fareham. Telecommunications software and hardware for Telcos and OLOs. Currently working on a system that

Re: Where are YOU now?

2001-01-17 Thread Edwin Blink
Just wondering... what's everyone up to these days? I've been out of touch for a while. :) Where d'ya live? Groningen, The Netherlands Where d'ya work (and what are you working on)? Also in Groningen as a Delphi application developper. What's the coolest gizmo you've bought recently? Texas

Re: Where are YOU now?

2001-01-17 Thread Aley Keprt
And what about you? Just wondering... what's everyone up to these days? I've been out of touch for a while. : So... Where d'ya live? Where d'ya work (and what are you working on)? What's the coolest gizmo you've bought recently? Si

Re: Where are YOU now?

2001-01-17 Thread Marcelo Ortega
Title: Re: Where are YOU now? Just wondering... what's everyone up to these days? I've been out of touch for a while. :) So... Where d'ya live? Sao Caetano do Sul, Brazil. A small city very close to Sao Paulo (about 10 meters...) Where d'ya work (and what are you working on)? Sao Caetano

Re: Where are YOU now?

2001-01-17 Thread Dean Liversidge
On Wed, 17 Jan 2001 01:10:48 -0800, you wrote: Just wondering... what's everyone up to these days? I've been out of touch for a while. :) So... Ok, since everyone having a go, why not... Where d'ya live? Worksop, England Where d'ya work (and what are you working on)? Insight Direct, trying to