Re: [scifinoir2] Smith Angered over Hitler Remark

2007-12-27 Thread Astromancer
I gather that it didn't make it to broadcast?

Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Keith, as I was standing in the 
parking lot of my complex, watching fire spatter across my roof, knowing that 
everything I owned (including some comic books, two titles of which would make 
you weep), a reporter (still working for Channel 2, so I'll be kind and not 
mention her name) sticks a mike in my face and asks me the immortal question, 
How do you feel right now, sir?

My exact reply- I feel like I want to rip out your f*cking lungs and feed them 
to you. And I'm still proud of myself for saying it.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
i hear you, i feel for celebs and the fishbowls in which they live. Then there 
are the ones who *seek* the press, yet bemoan their treatment. 
okay, so what did you say (or do) after this fire?!

-- Original message -- 
From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
I know that, in H'Wood, microphones are stuck in celebs' faces with annoying 
regularity, leaving them with no option but to say something. As we all know, 
too often, this evokes off-the-cuff responses that can be translated in a 
myriad of ways. Mind you, I'm not saying that Smith actually said anything to 
this effect, or defending the fact that he said it. Myself, I've only had one 
mike stuck in my face in my life, that at one of the worst possible moments of 
my life (as I watched my apartment burning). What I said was easily 
translatable and, had there not been two large members of DeKalb County's 
Finest on hand at the moment, would've resulted in a long term of incarceration 
for yours truly. IMO, the best thing to do in that sitch, not readily available 
for celebs like Smith, is to push the mike away and walk on.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Statements like this almost always get you in trouble, 
no matter what you intend. Whenever you say that an evil person didn't set out 
to do evil, it's bound to cause issues. I'm not sure what the exact quote from 
Smith is, as he obviously seems to think he was misquoted...

***
http://www.examiner.com/a-1122731~Will_Smith_Angered_by_Misinterpretation.html
LOS ANGELES (Map, News) - Will Smith is angry over celebrity gossip Web site 
articles that he said misinterpreted a recent remark he made in a Scottish 
newspaper about Adolf Hitler. In a story published Saturday in the Daily 
Record, Smith was quoted saying: Even Hitler didn't wake up going, 'let me do 
the most evil thing I can do today.' I think he woke up in the morning and 
using a twisted, backwards logic, he set out to do what he thought was 'good.'
The quote was preceded by the writer's observation: Remarkably, Will believes 
everyone is basically good.
Over the weekend, dozens of celebrity gossip Web sites posted articles about 
the comment, many saying that Smith believed that Hitler was a good person.

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Re: [scifinoir2] Smith Angered over Hitler Remark

2007-12-27 Thread Martin
No, afraid not. But she's still scared of me. Saw her about four years ago, 
when I was out and about. She caught one glance at me and ran back into the 
remote truck.

Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   I gather 
that it didn't make it to broadcast?
 
 Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Keith, as I was standing in the 
parking lot of my complex, watching fire spatter across my roof, knowing that 
everything I owned (including some comic books, two titles of which would make 
you weep), a reporter (still working for Channel 2, so I'll be kind and not 
mention her name) sticks a mike in my face and asks me the immortal question, 
How do you feel right now, sir?
 
 My exact reply- I feel like I want to rip out your f*cking lungs and feed 
them to you. And I'm still proud of myself for saying it.
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 i hear you, i feel for celebs and the fishbowls in which they live. Then there 
are the ones who *seek* the press, yet bemoan their treatment. 
 okay, so what did you say (or do) after this fire?!
 
 -- Original message -- 
 From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 I know that, in H'Wood, microphones are stuck in celebs' faces with annoying 
regularity, leaving them with no option but to say something. As we all know, 
too often, this evokes off-the-cuff responses that can be translated in a 
myriad of ways. Mind you, I'm not saying that Smith actually said anything to 
this effect, or defending the fact that he said it. Myself, I've only had one 
mike stuck in my face in my life, that at one of the worst possible moments of 
my life (as I watched my apartment burning). What I said was easily 
translatable and, had there not been two large members of DeKalb County's 
Finest on hand at the moment, would've resulted in a long term of incarceration 
for yours truly. IMO, the best thing to do in that sitch, not readily available 
for celebs like Smith, is to push the mike away and walk on.
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Statements like this almost always get you in 
trouble, no matter what you intend. Whenever you say that an evil person didn't 
set out to do evil, it's bound to cause issues. I'm not sure what the exact 
quote from Smith is, as he obviously seems to think he was misquoted...
 
 ***
 http://www.examiner.com/a-1122731~Will_Smith_Angered_by_Misinterpretation.html
 LOS ANGELES (Map, News) - Will Smith is angry over celebrity gossip Web site 
articles that he said misinterpreted a recent remark he made in a Scottish 
newspaper about Adolf Hitler. In a story published Saturday in the Daily 
Record, Smith was quoted saying: Even Hitler didn't wake up going, 'let me do 
the most evil thing I can do today.' I think he woke up in the morning and 
using a twisted, backwards logic, he set out to do what he thought was 'good.'
 The quote was preceded by the writer's observation: Remarkably, Will believes 
everyone is basically good.
 Over the weekend, dozens of celebrity gossip Web sites posted articles about 
the comment, many saying that Smith believed that Hitler was a good person.
 
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organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A 
Country
 
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only say this once; if you talk too much or ask too many questions, you might 
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to get them interested. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie

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Re: [scifinoir2] Smith Angered over Hitler Remark

2007-12-26 Thread Martin
And, after a moment's thought, I should add that someone *did* think that 
Hitler was doing some good. Back in 1938, he was nominated for a Nobel Peace 
Prize. Seriously.

Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   I know that, in 
H'Wood, microphones are stuck in celebs' faces with annoying regularity, 
leaving them with no option but to say something. As we all know, too often, 
this evokes off-the-cuff responses that can be translated in a myriad of ways. 
Mind you, I'm not saying that Smith actually said anything to this effect, or 
defending the fact that he said it. Myself, I've only had one mike stuck in my 
face in my life, that at one of the worst possible moments of my life (as I 
watched my apartment burning). What I said was easily translatable and, had 
there not been two large members of DeKalb County's Finest on hand at the 
moment, would've resulted in a long term of incarceration for yours truly. IMO, 
the best thing to do in that sitch, not readily available for celebs like 
Smith, is to push the mike away and walk on.
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   Statements like this 
almost always get you in trouble, no matter what you intend. Whenever you say 
that an evil person didn't set out to do evil, it's bound to cause issues. I'm 
not sure what the exact quote from Smith is, as he obviously seems to think he 
was misquoted...
  
  ***
  http://www.examiner.com/a-1122731~Will_Smith_Angered_by_Misinterpretation.html
  LOS ANGELES (Map, News) - Will Smith is angry over celebrity gossip Web site 
articles that he said misinterpreted a recent remark he made in a Scottish 
newspaper about Adolf Hitler. In a story published Saturday in the Daily 
Record, Smith was quoted saying: Even Hitler didn't wake up going, 'let me do 
the most evil thing I can do today.' I think he woke up in the morning and 
using a twisted, backwards logic, he set out to do what he thought was 'good.'
  The quote was preceded by the writer's observation: Remarkably, Will 
believes everyone is basically good.
  Over the weekend, dozens of celebrity gossip Web sites posted articles about 
the comment, many saying that Smith believed that Hitler was a good person.
  
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Re: [scifinoir2] Smith Angered over Hitler Remark

2007-12-26 Thread KeithBJohnson
i hear you, i feel for celebs and the fishbowls in which they live. Then there 
are the ones who *seek* the press, yet bemoan their treatment.  
okay, so what did you say (or do) after this fire?!

-- Original message -- 
From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
I know that, in H'Wood, microphones are stuck in celebs' faces with annoying 
regularity, leaving them with no option but to say something. As we all know, 
too often, this evokes off-the-cuff responses that can be translated in a 
myriad of ways. Mind you, I'm not saying that Smith actually said anything to 
this effect, or defending the fact that he said it. Myself, I've only had one 
mike stuck in my face in my life, that at one of the worst possible moments of 
my life (as I watched my apartment burning). What I said was easily 
translatable and, had there not been two large members of DeKalb County's 
Finest on hand at the moment, would've resulted in a long term of incarceration 
for yours truly. IMO, the best thing to do in that sitch, not readily available 
for celebs like Smith, is to push the mike away and walk on.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Statements like this almost always get you in trouble, 
no matter what you intend. Whenever you say that an evil person didn't set out 
to do evil, it's bound to cause issues. I'm not sure what the exact quote from 
Smith is, as he obviously seems to think he was misquoted...

***
http://www.examiner.com/a-1122731~Will_Smith_Angered_by_Misinterpretation.html
LOS ANGELES (Map, News) - Will Smith is angry over celebrity gossip Web site 
articles that he said misinterpreted a recent remark he made in a Scottish 
newspaper about Adolf Hitler. In a story published Saturday in the Daily 
Record, Smith was quoted saying: Even Hitler didn't wake up going, 'let me do 
the most evil thing I can do today.' I think he woke up in the morning and 
using a twisted, backwards logic, he set out to do what he thought was 'good.'
The quote was preceded by the writer's observation: Remarkably, Will believes 
everyone is basically good.
Over the weekend, dozens of celebrity gossip Web sites posted articles about 
the comment, many saying that Smith believed that Hitler was a good person.

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Re: [scifinoir2] Smith Angered over Hitler Remark

2007-12-26 Thread Daryle
1. I am ready for Martin to write his autobiography. You have one book sold
here, brother. 
2. I agree 100% about ³push the mike aside and walk on.  Recently, Japanese
pop singer Izumi Sakai died.  She was member #1 and lead singer of the group
³ZARD²,  who have many popular hits. Izumi made, I believe, 5 or 6 TV
appearances over 10 years, unheard of for a popular Japanese singer. But it
was this that made her even more popular. Because you don¹t see her often,
when you did -- it was a big deal.

I believe that the ³paparazzi² problem in this country is a 50/50 shared
problem. You  don¹t see Harrison Ford (for example) quoted or pictured in
tabloids because he lives on a ranch in Wyoming. So when he comes to
Hollywood, it¹s to work. The more accessible you are, the more you run the
risk of playing yourself. The math just  catches up to you. Will has been in
everything from Men¹s Vogue to ‹ you name it ‹ to  promote ³I Am Legend².
It¹s his way. So for this to be one misquote over something he¹s said -- not
bad. Now, make it difficult to get a Will Smith interview from now on, and
his problem is solved. Will has enough friends who  know damn well he¹s not
saying Hitler was Œgood¹, and all of those friends have the ability to hire
him in the future. He¹s a brand. Nokia is also  a brand. And there are
Nokia phones you can get for $20 at ATT with a 2 year plan ‹ and there is
Vertu, Nokia¹s $5,000 phone you can buy that comes with concierge service.
You cannot send or receive email on a Vertu, and it¹s not even a great
looking phone, but it is such an exclusive brand that people drop the 5
grand and keep it moving. You are hard pressed to find an ad for Vertu. By
the time you see one, you¹ve already spent $32 on a magazine. So I¹m with
Johnny Depp. Let the work speak for itself, and move out of the way of the
³press². The money will come.


On 12/26/07 10:21 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
  
  
 
 i hear you, i feel for celebs and the fishbowls in which they live. Then there
 are the ones who *seek* the press, yet bemoan their treatment.
 okay, so what did you say (or do) after this fire?!
 
 -- Original message --
 From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:truthseeker_013%40yahoo.com 
 I know that, in H'Wood, microphones are stuck in celebs' faces with annoying
 regularity, leaving them with no option but to say something. As we all know,
 too often, this evokes off-the-cuff responses that can be translated in a
 myriad of ways. Mind you, I'm not saying that Smith actually said anything to
 this effect, or defending the fact that he said it. Myself, I've only had one
 mike stuck in my face in my life, that at one of the worst possible moments of
 my life (as I watched my apartment burning). What I said was easily
 translatable and, had there not been two large members of DeKalb County's
 Finest on hand at the moment, would've resulted in a long term of
 incarceration for yours truly. IMO, the best thing to do in that sitch, not
 readily available for celebs like Smith, is to push the mike away and walk on.
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net  wrote:
 Statements like this almost always get you in trouble, no matter what you
 intend. Whenever you say that an evil person didn't set out to do evil, it's
 bound to cause issues. I'm not sure what the exact quote from Smith is, as he
 obviously seems to think he was misquoted...
 
 ***
 http://www.examiner.com/a-1122731~Will_Smith_Angered_by_Misinterpretation.html
 LOS ANGELES (Map, News) - Will Smith is angry over celebrity gossip Web site
 articles that he said misinterpreted a recent remark he made in a Scottish
 newspaper about Adolf Hitler. In a story published Saturday in the Daily
 Record, Smith was quoted saying: Even Hitler didn't wake up going, 'let me do
 the most evil thing I can do today.' I think he woke up in the morning and
 using a twisted, backwards logic, he set out to do what he thought was
 'good.'
 The quote was preceded by the writer's observation: Remarkably, Will believes
 everyone is basically good.
 Over the weekend, dozens of celebrity gossip Web sites posted articles about
 the comment, many saying that Smith believed that Hitler was a good person.
 
 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
 
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 organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A
 Country
 
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Re: [scifinoir2] Smith Angered over Hitler Remark

2007-12-26 Thread Martin
Keith, as I was standing in the parking lot of my complex, watching fire 
spatter across my roof, knowing that everything I owned (including some comic 
books, two titles of which would make you weep), a reporter (still working for 
Channel 2, so I'll be kind and not mention her name) sticks a mike in my face 
and asks me the immortal question, How do you feel right now, sir?
   
  My exact reply- I feel like I want to rip out your f*cking lungs and feed 
them to you. And I'm still proud of myself for saying it.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  i hear you, i feel for celebs and the fishbowls in which they live. 
Then there are the ones who *seek* the press, yet bemoan their treatment. 
okay, so what did you say (or do) after this fire?!

-- Original message -- 
From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
I know that, in H'Wood, microphones are stuck in celebs' faces with annoying 
regularity, leaving them with no option but to say something. As we all know, 
too often, this evokes off-the-cuff responses that can be translated in a 
myriad of ways. Mind you, I'm not saying that Smith actually said anything to 
this effect, or defending the fact that he said it. Myself, I've only had one 
mike stuck in my face in my life, that at one of the worst possible moments of 
my life (as I watched my apartment burning). What I said was easily 
translatable and, had there not been two large members of DeKalb County's 
Finest on hand at the moment, would've resulted in a long term of incarceration 
for yours truly. IMO, the best thing to do in that sitch, not readily available 
for celebs like Smith, is to push the mike away and walk on.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Statements like this almost always get you in trouble, 
no matter what you intend. Whenever you say that an evil person didn't set out 
to do evil, it's bound to cause issues. I'm not sure what the exact quote from 
Smith is, as he obviously seems to think he was misquoted...

***
http://www.examiner.com/a-1122731~Will_Smith_Angered_by_Misinterpretation.html
LOS ANGELES (Map, News) - Will Smith is angry over celebrity gossip Web site 
articles that he said misinterpreted a recent remark he made in a Scottish 
newspaper about Adolf Hitler. In a story published Saturday in the Daily 
Record, Smith was quoted saying: Even Hitler didn't wake up going, 'let me do 
the most evil thing I can do today.' I think he woke up in the morning and 
using a twisted, backwards logic, he set out to do what he thought was 'good.'
The quote was preceded by the writer's observation: Remarkably, Will believes 
everyone is basically good.
Over the weekend, dozens of celebrity gossip Web sites posted articles about 
the comment, many saying that Smith believed that Hitler was a good person.

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A 
Country

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Re: [scifinoir2] Smith Angered over Hitler Remark

2007-12-26 Thread KeithBJohnson
dude! Did that get aired?!  What did she do?

That is the worst question a reporter can ask, yet they keep asking it...

-- Original message -- 
From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Keith, as I was standing in the parking lot of my complex, watching fire 
spatter across my roof, knowing that everything I owned (including some comic 
books, two titles of which would make you weep), a reporter (still working for 
Channel 2, so I'll be kind and not mention her name) sticks a mike in my face 
and asks me the immortal question, How do you feel right now, sir?

My exact reply- I feel like I want to rip out your f*cking lungs and feed them 
to you. And I'm still proud of myself for saying it.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
i hear you, i feel for celebs and the fishbowls in which they live. Then there 
are the ones who *seek* the press, yet bemoan their treatment. 
okay, so what did you say (or do) after this fire?!

-- Original message -- 
From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
I know that, in H'Wood, microphones are stuck in celebs' faces with annoying 
regularity, leaving them with no option but to say something. As we all know, 
too often, this evokes off-the-cuff responses that can be translated in a 
myriad of ways. Mind you, I'm not saying that Smith actually said anything to 
this effect, or defending the fact that he said it. Myself, I've only had one 
mike stuck in my face in my life, that at one of the worst possible moments of 
my life (as I watched my apartment burning). What I said was easily 
translatable and, had there not been two large members of DeKalb County's 
Finest on hand at the moment, would've resulted in a long term of incarceration 
for yours truly. IMO, the best thing to do in that sitch, not readily available 
for celebs like Smith, is to push the mike away and walk on.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Statements like this almost always get you in trouble, 
no matter what you intend. Whenever you say that an evil person didn't set out 
to do evil, it's bound to cause issues. I'm not sure what the exact quote from 
Smith is, as he obviously seems to think he was misquoted...

***
http://www.examiner.com/a-1122731~Will_Smith_Angered_by_Misinterpretation.html
LOS ANGELES (Map, News) - Will Smith is angry over celebrity gossip Web site 
articles that he said misinterpreted a recent remark he made in a Scottish 
newspaper about Adolf Hitler. In a story published Saturday in the Daily 
Record, Smith was quoted saying: Even Hitler didn't wake up going, 'let me do 
the most evil thing I can do today.' I think he woke up in the morning and 
using a twisted, backwards logic, he set out to do what he thought was 'good.'
The quote was preceded by the writer's observation: Remarkably, Will believes 
everyone is basically good.
Over the weekend, dozens of celebrity gossip Web sites posted articles about 
the comment, many saying that Smith believed that Hitler was a good person.

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organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A 
Country

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Re: [scifinoir2] Smith Angered over Hitler Remark

2007-12-26 Thread KeithBJohnson
funny you mention the responsibility of the actors themselves. People like 
Redford, Newman, Morgan Freeman, the late Robert Urich--all live or lived 
outside of Hollywood and were very careful with interviews, where they hang 
out, etc. 

As for Smith, I just listened to a podcast of him on Tavis Smiley last week. He 
says the reason so many actors don't blow up like he did is precisely because 
they :*don't* talk to the media as much as he does, at least, in terms of 
promoting his movies. Smith says he literally travels the world on press 
junkets, going from South America to China, and he says few of his peers do 
that. You can't expect to pull in big box office all the time, he told Smiley, 
if you won't get out there and promote your work.

He also had some interesting things to say about being Black in Hollywood and 
what it means to him. Bottom line was he feels Black actors would do better in 
Hollywood if they just simply refused to have the door shut on them. He wasn't 
denying the problem, just has the mindset that he will succeed no matter the 
obstacle--or die trying. 

-- Original message -- 
From: Daryle [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
1. I am ready for Martin to write his autobiography. You have one book sold
here, brother. 
2. I agree 100% about ³push the mike aside and walk on. Recently, Japanese
pop singer Izumi Sakai died. She was member #1 and lead singer of the group
³ZARD², who have many popular hits. Izumi made, I believe, 5 or 6 TV
appearances over 10 years, unheard of for a popular Japanese singer. But it
was this that made her even more popular. Because you don¹t see her often,
when you did -- it was a big deal.

I believe that the ³paparazzi² problem in this country is a 50/50 shared
problem. You don¹t see Harrison Ford (for example) quoted or pictured in
tabloids because he lives on a ranch in Wyoming. So when he comes to
Hollywood, it¹s to work. The more accessible you are, the more you run the
risk of playing yourself. The math just catches up to you. Will has been in
everything from Men¹s Vogue to ‹ you name it ‹ to promote ³I Am Legend².
It¹s his way. So for this to be one misquote over something he¹s said -- not
bad. Now, make it difficult to get a Will Smith interview from now on, and
his problem is solved. Will has enough friends who know damn well he¹s not
saying Hitler was Œgood¹, and all of those friends have the ability to hire
him in the future. He¹s a brand. Nokia is also a brand. And there are
Nokia phones you can get for $20 at ATT with a 2 year plan ‹ and there is
Vertu, Nokia¹s $5,000 phone you can buy that comes with concierge service.
You cannot send or receive email on a Vertu, and it¹s not even a great
looking phone, but it is such an exclusive brand that people drop the 5
grand and keep it moving. You are hard pressed to find an ad for Vertu. By
the time you see one, you¹ve already spent $32 on a magazine. So I¹m with
Johnny Depp. Let the work speak for itself, and move out of the way of the
³press². The money will come.

On 12/26/07 10:21 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 i hear you, i feel for celebs and the fishbowls in which they live. Then there
 are the ones who *seek* the press, yet bemoan their treatment.
 okay, so what did you say (or do) after this fire?!
 
 -- Original message --
 From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:truthseeker_013%40yahoo.com 
 I know that, in H'Wood, microphones are stuck in celebs' faces with annoying
 regularity, leaving them with no option but to say something. As we all know,
 too often, this evokes off-the-cuff responses that can be translated in a
 myriad of ways. Mind you, I'm not saying that Smith actually said anything to
 this effect, or defending the fact that he said it. Myself, I've only had one
 mike stuck in my face in my life, that at one of the worst possible moments of
 my life (as I watched my apartment burning). What I said was easily
 translatable and, had there not been two large members of DeKalb County's
 Finest on hand at the moment, would've resulted in a long term of
 incarceration for yours truly. IMO, the best thing to do in that sitch, not
 readily available for celebs like Smith, is to push the mike away and walk on.
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net wrote:
 Statements like this almost always get you in trouble, no matter what you
 intend. Whenever you say that an evil person didn't set out to do evil, it's
 bound to cause issues. I'm not sure what the exact quote from Smith is, as he
 obviously seems to think he was misquoted...
 
 ***
 http://www.examiner.com/a-1122731~Will_Smith_Angered_by_Misinterpretation.html
 LOS ANGELES (Map, News) - Will Smith is angry over celebrity gossip Web site
 articles that he said misinterpreted a recent remark he made in a Scottish
 newspaper about Adolf Hitler. In a story published Saturday in the Daily
 Record, Smith was quoted saying: Even Hitler didn't wake up 

Re: [scifinoir2] Smith Angered over Hitler Remark

2007-12-26 Thread Martin
I'm working on it. But I intend to delay publishing until after I'm gone, so as 
to avoid the press junkets.

Daryle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  1. I am ready for Martin to write 
his autobiography. You have one book sold
here, brother. 
2. I agree 100% about ³push the mike aside and walk on. Recently, Japanese
pop singer Izumi Sakai died. She was member #1 and lead singer of the group
³ZARD², who have many popular hits. Izumi made, I believe, 5 or 6 TV
appearances over 10 years, unheard of for a popular Japanese singer. But it
was this that made her even more popular. Because you don¹t see her often,
when you did -- it was a big deal.

I believe that the ³paparazzi² problem in this country is a 50/50 shared
problem. You don¹t see Harrison Ford (for example) quoted or pictured in
tabloids because he lives on a ranch in Wyoming. So when he comes to
Hollywood, it¹s to work. The more accessible you are, the more you run the
risk of playing yourself. The math just catches up to you. Will has been in
everything from Men¹s Vogue to ‹ you name it ‹ to promote ³I Am Legend².
It¹s his way. So for this to be one misquote over something he¹s said -- not
bad. Now, make it difficult to get a Will Smith interview from now on, and
his problem is solved. Will has enough friends who know damn well he¹s not
saying Hitler was Œgood¹, and all of those friends have the ability to hire
him in the future. He¹s a brand. Nokia is also a brand. And there are
Nokia phones you can get for $20 at ATT with a 2 year plan ‹ and there is
Vertu, Nokia¹s $5,000 phone you can buy that comes with concierge service.
You cannot send or receive email on a Vertu, and it¹s not even a great
looking phone, but it is such an exclusive brand that people drop the 5
grand and keep it moving. You are hard pressed to find an ad for Vertu. By
the time you see one, you¹ve already spent $32 on a magazine. So I¹m with
Johnny Depp. Let the work speak for itself, and move out of the way of the
³press². The money will come.

On 12/26/07 10:21 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 
 
 
 i hear you, i feel for celebs and the fishbowls in which they live. Then there
 are the ones who *seek* the press, yet bemoan their treatment.
 okay, so what did you say (or do) after this fire?!
 
 -- Original message --
 From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:truthseeker_013%40yahoo.com 
 I know that, in H'Wood, microphones are stuck in celebs' faces with annoying
 regularity, leaving them with no option but to say something. As we all know,
 too often, this evokes off-the-cuff responses that can be translated in a
 myriad of ways. Mind you, I'm not saying that Smith actually said anything to
 this effect, or defending the fact that he said it. Myself, I've only had one
 mike stuck in my face in my life, that at one of the worst possible moments of
 my life (as I watched my apartment burning). What I said was easily
 translatable and, had there not been two large members of DeKalb County's
 Finest on hand at the moment, would've resulted in a long term of
 incarceration for yours truly. IMO, the best thing to do in that sitch, not
 readily available for celebs like Smith, is to push the mike away and walk on.
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net wrote:
 Statements like this almost always get you in trouble, no matter what you
 intend. Whenever you say that an evil person didn't set out to do evil, it's
 bound to cause issues. I'm not sure what the exact quote from Smith is, as he
 obviously seems to think he was misquoted...
 
 ***
 http://www.examiner.com/a-1122731~Will_Smith_Angered_by_Misinterpretation.html
 LOS ANGELES (Map, News) - Will Smith is angry over celebrity gossip Web site
 articles that he said misinterpreted a recent remark he made in a Scottish
 newspaper about Adolf Hitler. In a story published Saturday in the Daily
 Record, Smith was quoted saying: Even Hitler didn't wake up going, 'let me do
 the most evil thing I can do today.' I think he woke up in the morning and
 using a twisted, backwards logic, he set out to do what he thought was
 'good.'
 The quote was preceded by the writer's observation: Remarkably, Will believes
 everyone is basically good.
 Over the weekend, dozens of celebrity gossip Web sites posted articles about
 the comment, many saying that Smith believed that Hitler was a good person.
 
 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
 
 There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get
 organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A
 Country
 
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 Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.
 
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Re: [scifinoir2] Smith Angered over Hitler Remark

2007-12-26 Thread Daryle

Smith has said this a few times. When ID4 opened he was one of the few stars
of the film who went to Asia to promote it. This is a great  strategy,  but,
as I said, the math catches up with you. The more ground you cover, the
greater your chances of being  misquoted.

Hopefully Will is learning, like many before him, that you can push to
knock down the doors all you want, but when you get through, you'd better
change the locks on the door you just pushed open, or you've just invited a
stampede. Everybody's not SUPPOSED to push through...you're not SUPPOSED to
win. That's what makes winners special.


On 12/26/07 12:53 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 funny you mention the responsibility of the actors themselves. People like
 Redford, Newman, Morgan Freeman, the late Robert Urich--all live or lived
 outside of Hollywood and were very careful with interviews, where they hang
 out, etc. 
 
 As for Smith, I just listened to a podcast of him on Tavis Smiley last week.
 He says the reason so many actors don't blow up like he did is precisely
 because they :*don't* talk to the media as much as he does, at least, in terms
 of promoting his movies. Smith says he literally travels the world on press
 junkets, going from South America to China, and he says few of his peers do
 that. You can't expect to pull in big box office all the time, he told Smiley,
 if you won't get out there and promote your work.
 
 He also had some interesting things to say about being Black in Hollywood and
 what it means to him. Bottom line was he feels Black actors would do better in
 Hollywood if they just simply refused to have the door shut on them. He wasn't
 denying the problem, just has the mindset that he will succeed no matter the
 obstacle--or die trying.
 
 -- Original message --
 From: Daryle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 1. I am ready for Martin to write his autobiography. You have one book sold
 here, brother. 
 2. I agree 100% about ³push the mike aside and walk on. Recently, Japanese
 pop singer Izumi Sakai died. She was member #1 and lead singer of the group
 ³ZARD², who have many popular hits. Izumi made, I believe, 5 or 6 TV
 appearances over 10 years, unheard of for a popular Japanese singer. But it
 was this that made her even more popular. Because you don¹t see her often,
 when you did -- it was a big deal.
 
 I believe that the ³paparazzi² problem in this country is a 50/50 shared
 problem. You don¹t see Harrison Ford (for example) quoted or pictured in
 tabloids because he lives on a ranch in Wyoming. So when he comes to
 Hollywood, it¹s to work. The more accessible you are, the more you run the
 risk of playing yourself. The math just catches up to you. Will has been in
 everything from Men¹s Vogue to ‹ you name it ‹ to promote ³I Am Legend².
 It¹s his way. So for this to be one misquote over something he¹s said -- not
 bad. Now, make it difficult to get a Will Smith interview from now on, and
 his problem is solved. Will has enough friends who know damn well he¹s not
 saying Hitler was Œgood¹, and all of those friends have the ability to hire
 him in the future. He¹s a brand. Nokia is also a brand. And there are
 Nokia phones you can get for $20 at ATT with a 2 year plan ‹ and there is
 Vertu, Nokia¹s $5,000 phone you can buy that comes with concierge service.
 You cannot send or receive email on a Vertu, and it¹s not even a great
 looking phone, but it is such an exclusive brand that people drop the 5
 grand and keep it moving. You are hard pressed to find an ad for Vertu. By
 the time you see one, you¹ve already spent $32 on a magazine. So I¹m with
 Johnny Depp. Let the work speak for itself, and move out of the way of the
 ³press². The money will come.
 
 On 12/26/07 10:21 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 i hear you, i feel for celebs and the fishbowls in which they live. Then
 there
 are the ones who *seek* the press, yet bemoan their treatment.
 okay, so what did you say (or do) after this fire?!
 
 -- Original message --
 From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:truthseeker_013%40yahoo.com
 
 I know that, in H'Wood, microphones are stuck in celebs' faces with annoying
 regularity, leaving them with no option but to say something. As we all know,
 too often, this evokes off-the-cuff responses that can be translated in a
 myriad of ways. Mind you, I'm not saying that Smith actually said anything to
 this effect, or defending the fact that he said it. Myself, I've only had one
 mike stuck in my face in my life, that at one of the worst possible moments
 of
 my life (as I watched my apartment burning). What I said was easily
 translatable and, had there not been two large members of DeKalb County's
 Finest on hand at the moment, would've resulted in a long term of
 incarceration for yours truly. IMO, the best thing to do in that sitch, not
 readily available for celebs like Smith, is to push the mike away and walk
 on.
 
 [EMAIL 

RE: [scifinoir2] Smith Angered over Hitler Remark

2007-12-26 Thread Reece Jennings
My exact reply- I feel like I want to rip out your f*cking lungs and feed
them to you. And I'm still proud of myself for saying it.

Good for you!  I'm guessing she didn't air the piece...or maybe did the
'angry Black man' angle, huh?
H...lung sandwich...
 
 Maurice Jennings
Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure?
KEEP your home and  Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks!
Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation = http://www.legacyhomesavers.com
http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/ 
 
 
 

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From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Martin
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 11:59 AM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Smith Angered over Hitler Remark



Keith, as I was standing in the parking lot of my complex, watching fire
spatter across my roof, knowing that everything I owned (including some
comic books, two titles of which would make you weep), a reporter (still
working for Channel 2, so I'll be kind and not mention her name) sticks a
mike in my face and asks me the immortal question, How do you feel right
now, sir?

My exact reply- I feel like I want to rip out your f*cking lungs and feed
them to you. And I'm still proud of myself for saying it.

KeithBJohnson@ mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net comcast.net wrote:
i hear you, i feel for celebs and the fishbowls in which they live. Then
there are the ones who *seek* the press, yet bemoan their treatment. 
okay, so what did you say (or do) after this fire?!

-- Original message -- 
From: Martin truthseeker_ mailto:truthseeker_013%40yahoo.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
I know that, in H'Wood, microphones are stuck in celebs' faces with annoying
regularity, leaving them with no option but to say something. As we all
know, too often, this evokes off-the-cuff responses that can be translated
in a myriad of ways. Mind you, I'm not saying that Smith actually said
anything to this effect, or defending the fact that he said it. Myself, I've
only had one mike stuck in my face in my life, that at one of the worst
possible moments of my life (as I watched my apartment burning). What I said
was easily translatable and, had there not been two large members of DeKalb
County's Finest on hand at the moment, would've resulted in a long term of
incarceration for yours truly. IMO, the best thing to do in that sitch, not
readily available for celebs like Smith, is to push the mike away and walk
on.

KeithBJohnson@ mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net comcast.net wrote:
Statements like this almost always get you in trouble, no matter what you
intend. Whenever you say that an evil person didn't set out to do evil, it's
bound to cause issues. I'm not sure what the exact quote from Smith is, as
he obviously seems to think he was misquoted...

***
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http://www.examiner.com/a-1122731~Will_Smith_Angered_by_Misinterpretation.h
tml .com/a-1122731~Will_Smith_Angered_by_Misinterpretation.html
LOS ANGELES (Map, News) - Will Smith is angry over celebrity gossip Web site
articles that he said misinterpreted a recent remark he made in a Scottish
newspaper about Adolf Hitler. In a story published Saturday in the Daily
Record, Smith was quoted saying: Even Hitler didn't wake up going, 'let me
do the most evil thing I can do today.' I think he woke up in the morning
and using a twisted, backwards logic, he set out to do what he thought was
'good.'
The quote was preceded by the writer's observation: Remarkably, Will
believes everyone is basically good.
Over the weekend, dozens of celebrity gossip Web sites posted articles about
the comment, many saying that Smith believed that Hitler was a good
person.

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Country

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[scifinoir2] Smith Angered over Hitler Remark

2007-12-25 Thread KeithBJohnson
Statements like this almost always get you in trouble, no matter what you 
intend. Whenever you say that an evil person didn't set out to do evil, it's 
bound to cause issues. I'm not sure what the exact quote from Smith is, as he 
obviously seems to think he was misquoted...

***
http://www.examiner.com/a-1122731~Will_Smith_Angered_by_Misinterpretation.html
LOS ANGELES (Map, News) - Will Smith is angry over celebrity gossip Web site 
articles that he said misinterpreted a recent remark he made in a Scottish 
newspaper about Adolf Hitler. In a story published Saturday in the Daily 
Record, Smith was quoted saying: Even Hitler didn't wake up going, 'let me do 
the most evil thing I can do today.' I think he woke up in the morning and 
using a twisted, backwards logic, he set out to do what he thought was 'good.'
The quote was preceded by the writer's observation: Remarkably, Will believes 
everyone is basically good.
Over the weekend, dozens of celebrity gossip Web sites posted articles about 
the comment, many saying that Smith believed that Hitler was a good person.

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Re: [scifinoir2] Smith Angered over Hitler Remark

2007-12-25 Thread Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
He basically said, most people who do bad things, think that are doing 
something good for society.  He said that they do not think they are 
evil doing some sinister act.  I agree.  people will find a way to 
justify anything.  If it harms some people, they use the argument that 
some must be sacrificed for the whole of society. .. a twisted version 
of the Vulcan needs of the many...

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Statements like this almost always get you in trouble, no matter what you 
 intend. Whenever you say that an evil person didn't set out to do evil, it's 
 bound to cause issues. I'm not sure what the exact quote from Smith is, as he 
 obviously seems to think he was misquoted...

 ***
 http://www.examiner.com/a-1122731~Will_Smith_Angered_by_Misinterpretation.html
 LOS ANGELES (Map, News) - Will Smith is angry over celebrity gossip Web site 
 articles that he said misinterpreted a recent remark he made in a Scottish 
 newspaper about Adolf Hitler. In a story published Saturday in the Daily 
 Record, Smith was quoted saying: Even Hitler didn't wake up going, 'let me 
 do the most evil thing I can do today.' I think he woke up in the morning and 
 using a twisted, backwards logic, he set out to do what he thought was 
 'good.'
 The quote was preceded by the writer's observation: Remarkably, Will 
 believes everyone is basically good.
 Over the weekend, dozens of celebrity gossip Web sites posted articles about 
 the comment, many saying that Smith believed that Hitler was a good person.

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